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    Default Science Has Left The Building: MUFON 2017

    Just found this interesting article from James Clarkson http://jamesclarksonufo.com/articles...how-must-go-on

    SCIENCE HAS LEFT THE BUILDING – THE HISTORIC MUFON 2017 SYMPOSIUM AND HOW THE SHOW MUST GO ON
    Posted on: July 22nd, 2017
    by James Clarkson



    Science has left the building – The Historic MUFON 2017 Symposium and How the Show Must Go On

    This morning I opened my computer and immediately took a powerful two punch combination on the jaw. Someone I respect highly in the field of UFO Investigation was praising the victorious opening of the 2017 MUFON Symposium where Corey Goode and his secret career in the Space Army is the major attraction. Ticket sales and attendance are stellar; stories that are wildly sensational with no supporting evidence are the flavor of the day. Hearing this researcher praise the “historic” 2017 MUFON Symposium, I wondered what kind of Jim Jones Kool-Aid they were serving in Las Vegas. How this praise of the Corey Goode 2017 MUFON Honorarium is reconciled with the now cliché mission statement of MUFON is the subject of this article: MUFON – The scientific investigation of UFOs for the benefit of humanity. Requiescat in pace.

    The punch that knocked me out of my chair and on to the floor was when I opened my e-mail. I received an announcement from Robert Powell, MUFON Director of Scientific Research – He resigned and is leaving MUFON right before this year’s MUFON Symposium began. Here is a quote from the MUFON website about some of the major work he has accomplished for MUFON and the field of Ufology:

    Robert Powell joined MUFON in 2006 and has been the Director of Research at MUFON since 2007. He helped establish and develop MUFON’s Science Review Board and is its current leader. He is a Texas state section director and an active Field Investigator in the state of Texas having completed over 120 investigations and is a MUFON STAR Team member.

    His background also includes 28 years of engineering management work in the semi-conductor industry and managing a state-of-the-art chemistry laboratory and managing a Research and Development group that worked on nanotechnology using atomic force microscopes, near-field optical microscopy, and other techniques. His departure signals that the last dissenting voice has left MUFON management. He has been a voice of reason and his integrity as a scientist was holding back MUFON leadership from its push to make MUFON into a million dollar enterprise.

    His resignation is a statement of protest about the speaker selection of the current Symposium. After communicating with him today and in the light of the departure of Rich Hoffman who was a member of MUFON since its beginning in 1969, it is very clear that these are “historical” times for MUFON and Ufology. Powell found himself alone trying to persuade Jan Harzan and the Board not to choose the Secret Space Program as the theme of the 2017 Symposium. Rich Hoffman before he quit felt himself alone and losing the battle to help State Directors and Field Investigators.

    If you believe as I do, that for many years MUFON had a proud place in the field of UFO Investigation, then the Corey Goode MUFON 2017 Symposium is historical in the same sense that history was made when the Titanic hit the iceberg on that fateful night on April 15, 1912. There will be survivors in the water and some may be rescued, but the mighty ship will sail no more. It may take a while to sink, but as a serious investigative organization, I don’t see how they will convince anyone but themselves that MUFON is reputable. As a UFO entertainment company – it may do very well thanks to unprovable claims like those of Corey Goode, Jaime Maussan, and others.

    But let’s don’t confuse the issues. The 2017 MUFON Symposium was held in a beautiful venue outside of Las Vegas. There are many very dedicated people in MUFON and I know they work diligently on reported UFOs, and once a year they get to meet, completely at their own expense with no discounts for anybody. It is very difficult to attend such an event for much less than about $2,000 if you live any distance away. For many dedicated people in MUFON that cost is out of their reach. But the flow of money, energy, and resources to MUFON Headquarters is a one-way street. The monetary, business side of MUFON is the dark side.

    In fairness, the economic argument is that a large national organization cannot continue unless it has an experienced corporate manager like Jan Harzan. And just like so many corporations across the world that pay high salaries and dividends to those at the top, their compensation becomes the primary driving issue behind all decision-making. Infrastructure improvement in the form of a faster, modern server for the MUFON Case Management System, some investment in the cost of major investigations, perhaps a discount incentive for State Directors who donate hundreds of hours continually – these are issues that are paid lip service, but they are never realized. Like so many corporations the original vision of their founders is lost in the necessities of the marketplace and the supreme commandment that revenue must be increased at all costs. The public is fickle and shallow. They must be continually titillated or they lose interest. This is a sad reality.

    Perhaps it is not possible for a large-scale UFO investigative organization to exist any longer if it maintains rigorous research standards and investigative integrity. Pointing out how implausible Corey Goode’s Time Travel Resume is, simply isn’t any fun. The public wants whatever is sensational, not what is objectively true. Robert Powell’s departure from MUFON is very much like the departure of the last real scientist from Trump’s cabinet. Once rid of all that pesky “science stuff,” then the Hollow Earth and the Secret Space Armada will help sell tickets for many years to come. At least this way what is important will continue – the revenue stream to MUFON headquarters.

    Not long after Jan Harzan became the MUFON CEO in 2013 he hired a business consulting firm. All the State Directors completed a lengthy written questionnaire about their MUFON state organizations. Six directors were interviewed at length by telephone and I was one of them. The questions were not about problems recruiting investigators, coping with the costs of renting venues for meetings, an antiquated computer system or burdensome reporting forms. Instead the questions always came back to one theme: How much revenue do you get from your MUFON organization and how much can you donate to headquarters?

    Two things come to mind when I think about the Corey Goode phenomena: the first is a delightful book I read to my children by Dr. Suess titled The Big Brag. To succeed in telling a whopper you just must outdo all the other liars. The second is an anecdote from my police career. We were called to a disorder in a local nightclub at closing. We were told that a dangerously out of control Vietnam Vet was behind the bar and he was threatening to kill anyone who went back there. The employees were fearful. We asked if anyone knew his name and the name Bob Richards was given, a well-known local belligerent drunk.

    We called out his name. He answered loudly from behind the bar and then began threatening to kill any of us who approached him because he claimed to be ex-Special Forces from Vietnam. One of the officers yelled out, “If you’re Bob Richards from southside, wouldn’t you have been about 12 years old when the Vietnam War happened?” There was a long silence and moments later we were leading Bob Richards away in handcuffs without resistance. The point: To be important, he needed people to believe his story. It worked as long as no one could prove that it was untrue. The story is so much more effective if you can’t prove it one way or the other. And Corey Goode has created a Big Brag that no one can challenge, more especially now that he has been honored by MUFON. The details he provides are delightfully derivative from numerous Contactee testimonies over many years. PT Barnum would love Mr. Goode.

    Goode claims to have had a 20-year career with the Secret Space program and because of time travel, in our timeline he was only gone for a moment. No one can ever prove or disprove anything he claims. His only fear is the competition like Jaime Maussan and the Peruvian Plaster of Paris Alien Mummy. If you believe Goode’s claims without question, I can make you a great deal on the Space Needle in Seattle, which is a camouflaged galactic star cruiser parked on its tower for emergency deployment. Presenters like Goode will help sell Symposium tickets for years to come; their credibility will never be damaged by something annoying, like evidence.

    My own experience with the MUFON Special Assignments Team (SAT) taught me the same lesson repeatedly: if your investigation does not endorse the spectacular claims of any witness whose story is of commercial interest to Jan Harzan, then your conclusions will be ignored by management. The only criteria for being given the stage in MUFON is whether or the story has enough “sizzle to sell.”

    The Special Assignments Team (SAT) was asked in 2015 to investigate “part” of a very dubious UFO Crash case submitted by Paola Harris. Who ever heard of partially investigating a UFO report, especially when the key piece of evidence is a cast aluminum windmill pump part that is being presented as an artifact stolen from the interior of a crashed UFO in 1945? The SAT found critical investigative failures. She claimed the site was deliberately planted with noxious weeds that were genetically modified by the Government to deter UFO researchers from exploring the alleged crash site, and then on Harris’ own YouTube videos, we see the same group walking through the weeds wearing shorts. Apparently, they no longer needed to wear the full body isolation suits that look so “scientific” on camera. Frank Kimbler, who is a scientific researcher from Roswell, pointed out that the claims of Harris’ elderly witness were not supported by the evidence. The SAT agreed. But such a finding doesn’t sell Symposium tickets. And the result? We got to watch Harris be given special status and an award for investigative excellence at the 2016 Symposium. This is one example of many.

    Scientific research and investigative integrity are still attempted by many state directors and field investigators, but those qualities are irrelevant to management decision-making. They are the loyal crew who haven’t yet realized their ship is no longer seaworthy. The departure of Robert Powell signals the end of an era when MUFON aspired to seriously investigate the UFO Mystery. Now it is all for show. Keep the lights low and the circus noisy, and the show will continue.

    With Rich Hoffman and Robert Powell gone, Science, Reason and Investigative Integrity have left the building for the good of increased revenue. JZ Knight aka Ramtha with all her wealth and power is now guiding the MUFON Inner Circle; nothing stands in the way of MUFON becoming the greatest UFO Show on Earth.

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    Default Re: Science Has Left The Building: MUFON 2017

    Thats what a timetravelling and ageregressed seal has to say about Coreys Claims:

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    Default Re: Science Has Left The Building: MUFON 2017

    Man I can't even read these articles, I thank you anyway. I can only read so far before I start feeling too annoyed to go any further.

    The whole Corey Goode thing is frustrating, because it needs to be addressed by the community (not just Avalon); but at the same time, it draws people's attention away from a lot of other topics, as time is used to battle the disinfo!

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    The N(ew)MUFON also should invite below character for a nice and wonderful duet with Corey Goode for the same conference.
    Ka-ching!

    "Your planet is forbidden for an open visit - extremely aggressive social environment,despite almost perfect climatic conditions.Almost 4 billion violent deaths for the last 5000 years and about 15000 major military conflicts in the same period."

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    “Every great cause begins as a movement, becomes a business, and eventually degenerates into a racket.”
     
    ~  Eric Hoffer

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    Default Re: Science Has Left The Building: MUFON 2017

    MUFON has lost all credibility.

    Not a single serious UFO researcher would take them seriously anymore.

    Seems like the intelligence services had their wish come true.

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    Default Re: Science Has Left The Building: MUFON 2017

    Hi All,

    James Clarkson has now published a second letter on his Blog in which he has announced his complete resignation from Mufon.

    WITH REGRET – WHY I MUST LEAVE MUFON COMPLETELY

    In this article he says:

    Quote
    To fully understand my position, I would ask that the reader should study two web articles and then return to this letter:

    1. http://kevinrandle.blogspot.com/2017...questions.html

    2. http://www.alternet.org/belief/ramth...arge-following
    I have just read all of the articles. They are quite lengthy, but I promise you that it is well worth it.

    MUFON has "become an income-generating entertainment company".

    Harley

    p.s. I have known [of] JZ Knight for many years. Her "school" is not far from me but I've always kept myself far away. She is a very 'powerful' person (if you know what I mean).

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    Quote Posted by Milo (here)
    MUFON has lost all credibility.

    Not a single serious UFO researcher would take them seriously anymore.

    Seems like the intelligence services had their wish come true.
    MUFON has an "INNER CIRCLE" that apparently most of it's members don't even know about.

    I doubt they'll have much credibility left at all once this gets out.

    Read my previous post for full information.

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    Also on the guest list for this year's MUFON is ufologist Richard Dolan, one of the most respected figures in the field, who has already been criticizing Corey and others, and whose criticism is quite comprehensive. I am sure he will make an airtight argument of why Corey's claims are riddled with contradictions and illogical fantasy. Dolan spoke yesterday (Saturday) and today he is on a special panel with Corey and some of the other "whistle-blowers" who are reveling in the cash and fame from their newfound celebrity status, unlike the real whistle blowers they compare themselves to (Assange, Manning, Snowden, Binney, etc.) who find themselves in prison or in exile. Dolan has not been hesitant to shame MUFON for its bad behavior in the past, I assume he won't be afraid to do it now. Looking forward to hearing reports of his performance at this event.

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    Hi Bill,

    Would you mind contacting Richard Dolan to make sure he has received this info?

    We'd love to hear his thought on this, and also his thoughts on the Symposium.

    Thanks!

    Harley

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    Default Re: Science Has Left The Building: MUFON 2017

    If that is UFOs kicked into the tall grass, where does that leave us ?

    What have we moved onto ontologically speaking ?

    Is it that some kind of current that has held the populace spellbound & produced all kind of wonders has ended ?

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    Personally Spiral, I believe that this is all engineered as part of the bigger plan moving forward towards 2030.

    Before not too long from now ufology just may not matter anymore, if you get what I'm alluding to.

    We'll see.

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    Default Re: Science Has Left The Building: MUFON 2017

    Spiral

    Quote If that is UFOs kicked into the tall grass, where does that leave us ?

    What have we moved onto ontologically speaking ?

    Is it that some kind of current that has held the populace spellbound & produced all kind of wonders has ended ?
    It changes nothing, nada. In fact it makes the path a bit more illuminated, MUFON has just erected a big warning sign, viewable to all who wish to see, that says: 'there is nothing to see here..... move along'. Their integrity is shredded, just side-step and proceed accordingly.

    And I am minded to not forget that Project Blue-Beam may still have its part to play.

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    Default Re: Science Has Left The Building: MUFON 2017

    Quote Posted by Harley (here)
    Hi Bill,

    Would you mind contacting Richard Dolan to make sure he has received this info?

    We'd love to hear his thought on this, and also his thoughts on the Symposium.

    Thanks!

    Harley
    I'll be in touch with Richard after the conference, for sure... and a follow-up on-record conversation with him will be a lot of fun. Yes, he's been sent the two articles, but there'd be little doubt that he already knows all about this... MUFON will be buzzing.

    Richard is on Coast to Coast AM tonight with George Knapp (the first two hours) — can anyone record the show??
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    Thanks for the tip Bill.

    For coast to coast I usually go to
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHz...2cbBAHQ/videos

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    Well...MUFON is down the tubes....what next? Purple people eaters?

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    Default Re: Science Has Left The Building: MUFON 2017

    money money money!



    For an $85.00 fee you to can hear the secrets of the universe and SSP! After MUFON conference with the one and only Michael Salla!

    http://events.eventzilla.net/e/antar...ams-2138885602

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    Default Re: Science Has Left The Building: MUFON 2017

    I thought Mufon had been taken over by Bigelow Aerospace:

    http://www.csicop.org/si/show/bigelo...aucer_emporium

    At one time, the military was refering all ufo sightings to mufon. What i suspect is that mufon has been abandoned by both bigelow (who claimed he knows aliens are visiting Earth on a recent sixty minutes edition) and the military have abandoned mufon. I stopped following mufon when bigelow got involved, figuring corporate involvement would suppress/hide any legitimate investigations.

    If there is an inner circle benefiting from the cash flow of fairy tale symposiums, then its best they go get a disney contract and leave serious ufo investigations for adults.

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    I wrote MUFON a complaint about their upcoming symposium July 6th.
    Today I unsubscribed MUFON telling them that "The content is no longer relevant to me"
    - Warren Light

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    Default Re: Science Has Left The Building: MUFON 2017

    I have watched this dynamic play out countless times in my life. From social groups to business liaisons, from family interactions to government ideology. It happens every time. I have yet to see it not happen. Even here at Avalon.

    An idea is embraced by a group. The idea attracts more people. The idea is modified by the larger group, whether willfully or otherwise. The original idea is diluted. The group polarises. The opposing factions splinter the group. The group disbands and adapt various modified versions of the original idea. The original idea is abandoned entirely.

    This 'idea' can be anything held in common by an association of individuals. Facebook is an idea, modified many times. Microsoft is an idea, that had to be divested of its huge monopoly. The idea of family is also continually re-invented to uphold certain beliefs of key members to the detriment of other members. Even ideologically divergent political parties can find common ground to defeat a mutually agreed threat to both (conservative parties in Canada love this trick).

    Whether a yoga class or a work project, the central idea often morphs into the agenda of a few at the expense of the many.

    It seems to be the way with those who wish to achieve their agendas, whether petty or grand or grandiose.

    It is the idea that must be sufficiently expansive to include the true motive of the group in relation to the central core of the idea. If it is about family then family is its core issue not the preferred inclinations of select members. If it is about attaining a goal in business then it is the goal that is important not the whims of any individual involved. And so on.

    If it is a group dedicated to the proof that UFOs exist, then it is the proof that is the core idea, not theatrics, not wishful thinking, not unsubstantiated claims of contact, not clever stories with plausible back-end dis-claimers.

    I have yet to see a group that has not been attacked by the selfish, ego-driven obsessions of a few members who must be heard and must be seen and must continually be the center of every topic and discussion.

    These same individuals are often the ones who never back down, never change their minds, and consider themselves always right.

    It is also these same few select individuals who do so well in this society.

    They do so well because mankind is a social animal. The vast majority merely follow the loudest, most insistent voice. The masses fall in love with those that stand out, stand up, do something crazy. Any head that pops up above the level of mediocrity, in any fashion, has the potential for mass followings.

    The masses do not discriminate either. They can love a despot as easily as a saint.

    So we see another organization reduced to its lowest common denominator, catering to sensationalism, a mass favorite, and dispensing with provable facts, of secondary importance to the masses anyway.

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