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    I have some sympathy timerty.
    Some of the comments would have been better placed on the ego thread.
    Trouble is its not easy to have a serious rational discussion on the hypothetical.
    Its a may be so!!!!, there is not much concrete evidence to say that any future event will happen.
    At the moment its an interesting topic and I wish you well with it.
    Wishing you an Exciting Safe and Happy 2011 and 2012
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    Hi Chris, hope that ego remark was not fired off in my direction? I still have to equip myself with that substance called ego as have had no need of it in 40+ years.

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    Hi Chris, hope that ego remark was not fired off in my direction? I still have to equip myself with that substance called ego as have had no need of it in 40+ years.
    Oh no Spirit Wolf.
    It was a generality to include my coments.
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    Well, if it was a simple thing, we would not be here scratching ourselves so hard to find out what is underneath.
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    Now I get why responsibility has become a huge issue, because people can't even be responsible and keep to the main topic of this thread. Now it is all so messy with sub-topics and small talk all over the place.
    Hi timerty,

    The nature of this topic (Arrival of Alien Ships in 2012 Mentioned by Various Project Camelot Sources) offers up plenty of discussion, which is what you wanted. You asked me via PM, why I closed the “SETI Claims Three Giant Spaceships Headed Towards Earth” As I explained to you, it was old news that had done the rounds here on Avalon before and many other forums. I explained to you that that particular thread was a hoax, no substantiated evidence, and full of clues showing it as such.

    Part of your explanation in our communication, as to why you thought the thread should not have been closed was this: “by closing the thread, you are only limiting people's freedom of thought and speech based on your own demarcations of the world's view, which is unfair to others”.

    I understood your view, and I replied this: “As a suggestion, you could start a thread discussing ET presence and the discussion thereof, so you do not feel we are limiting peoples freedom of thought and speech.”
    I also explained to you that an earlier thread (SETI finds Spaceships) posted by Viking, was also closed, at the OP’s request, due to the off topic course it took.

    Now, here we are, with this current thread. I personally posted my views on this topic as with all the posters who have contributed. A thread such as this offers up many possibilities as a point of discussion and thus leads us in all directions…it cannot be helped when dealing with this type of topic. It’s not as simple for many readers as say ‘how to make Ice Cream’. There are some very good posts here and some very important issues raised, you can see by how many views it has had, 3,321, at last look.

    In retrospect, with this thread starting, (I didn’t think it was a good idea at first due to the 'title' and my opinion of its bogus content) I can see now, that it offers to all readers, points of view, to help people better discern this material. Which has to be a good thing. The level of contribution, on a whole, has been good.

    I wish to add this: In less than 2 years we will witness the arrival of 2012, and then the passing of 2012, assuming that the net is still operating, we will have some very important things to discuss over that year and into 2013.
    For example, what information, pre 2012, has been correct/partly correct, and what has been complete bogus. That will be very interesting indeed.

    Ross

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    Now I get why responsibility has become a huge issue, because people can't even be responsible and keep to the main topic of this thread. Now it is all so messy with sub-topics and small talk all over the place.
    timerty,

    You didn't exactly stay on topic either I mean what was post #22 all about that was on topic?

    I do apologise to you for my contribution toward taking the thread off-topic and will leave it alone from now on.

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    NO WE ARE NOT ALL RESPONSIBLE FOR THE STATE OF THINGS HERE!!!

    We are only responsible in so far as, at some point back in antiquity, we allowed, were tricked into, or were forced to give our power - the power which is our divine birthrigh - away to those who would do things such as in that photo. The idea that we are all responsible for the state of things here is a favorite too of TPTB. :

    Me : We're going to ascend!
    TPTB : No you're not - look at all the wars, the famine, the violence! Nothing like ascention can happen until we've got rid of all of that....

    But take a look at WHO causes these wars, famine, etc? Is it you or me? *NO*! It is those who hoarde the power - those who stole it from us, and who spend so much time and money trying to convince us that we're not worthy of having the power because look at the state of the world....

    But it's all a load of *BS* - fed to us to keep them in power. These next few years will be marked by the regaining of our power from those who have misused and kept it from us it for so long.... The re-establishment of a soveriegn human race of powerful human beings.

    Joel
    If this is your perspective, then you are looking at only one layer. If you remember that the real you is not what you look at in the mirror as you shave in the morning, then you'll also remember that that part of you is so incredibly powerful that there is no way that it could EVER be decieved into doing something that it was not fully agreeing to be a part of. The part of you that is Joel can, by design, cannot fully grasp all layers of reality in this particular game going on in this one little corner of the cosmos.

    The physical human part of us is aghast at the idea that we'd knowingly and willingly get involved in such a yucky place and time like this one. It may be useful to remember that we've not always been the good guys ourselves. If there is anything to the idea of the cycles of reincarnation, it is a probable certainty that we've all experienced lifetimes where we were the aggressor, the black-hatted baby-killer in whatever fragment of life drama that we got ourselves into in any given lifetime. WE'VE DONE IT ALL. I know that this is an uncomfortable thing to accept. In this particular installment of the cosmic soap opera, we happen to have put ourselves on the "good" side of the fence, this being a drama about opposites. We joined in on this ride because we all knew how wonderfully full of pain and joy it would be. What else have supreme beings like us to do besides play these crazy intense games that we've created together?

    We all bear responsibility, but not in a "you broke it so now fix it" kind of way. It is ours, all of ours. WE OWN IT, all of us, both the seen and unseen agents of the game. We are responsible for what has happened, and we all get a say in what happens next -- just keep in mind that there could be a lot of different paths leading away from what's happened so far. With 6 billion souls being humans right now, plus the kajillions that are experiencing life in other forms, there are a lot of beings that will be involved in deciding for themselves what they are looking to experience after this installment of the intergalactic space opera is complete.

    We've been playing this power game, with some actors being the powerful and some others being the powerless, as yet another type of illusory experience of duality. Opposites. Without actors, there would be no show. Rest assured that we've all taken our turn as the galactic overlords. The story we've swallowed about being deceived and trapped here as the poor defenseless humans is where the BS is. Lower domain yammerings. Sure, it looks awful to see people starving and dying, and it sounds real callous and dismissive to postulate that somehow they would choose that path, because what person would ever choose that? The answer is that no person did the choosing -- it was the greater being who sees things from a much higher perspective who sets these experiences before themselves, for whatever gain they perceive that we cannot.

    These ramblings touch on things that are beyond the physical dimensions that are pressing down on us like a mountainous weight, and I freely admit that I may be totally and completely wrong about EVERYTHING. I just write what comes up, based on what I feel as well as what I've pieced together over the years. Follow your won heart,and make up your own damn mind

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    Well, there's already been mass sightings, and no doubt these will increase in scope and number.... But in terms of an orchestrated worldwide event? I guess it is as Bill and SpiritWolf say, only TPTW would have any need to pull that off....

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    Quote Posted by SPIRIT WOLF (here)
    Some might not wish to believe me even if I explained, its human nature not to, from my liaisons with certain people and from my own people then I will repeat, there will be no mass sightings in the way described by others, there simply is no need for such actions by off planet intelligences, but by saying that it might be possible for a rogue element to be brought in by what you all describe as the powers that be.
    If Earth is facing a physical planetary threat such as the sun decaying and going supernova or going to blow, then UFOs are certainly in the position to offer assistance in one way or another. Even the Titanic's survivors were assisted by another friendly ship. But of course any form of assistance is up to them, its not like we can predict such a possibility.

    UFO sightings have been on the rise and more prominent. We do know that the technology of UFOs/aliens surpasses the level of any military's. Nuclear missile silos have even been disabled by UFOs, and planes out-run. The aliens are certainly intelligent, possess in-the-dot level of responsiveness and are not uninformed. If a rogue element is brought in, it is also possible for rogue elements that are detrimental to the world to be disabled by UFOs since the aliens are so into our business on Earth. So I don't understand the need to focus worries on the rogue element that possess a level of technology far lower than off-world intelligence. We are at the mercy of the UFOs rather than at the mercy of the rogue elements.

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    timerty,

    You didn't exactly stay on topic either I mean what was post #22 all about that was on topic?
    I thought that giving my point of view on the Power of Now book would later raise relevant information pertaining to the topic of alien ships. As it turned out, I was wrong. People just like dump their arbitrary stuff and jet off, leaving me to open the package and discover it was a gift that I have no use for and would rather to take it back. This is why it is very important to give people gifts that they want.

    Maybe the bringing up of Power of Now book was the message to focus on the present moment, but as we all know that is something only little kids in their little playing houses can afford to do in this moment of humanity's existence on Earth. This is why I called the book "very elementary". Of course I don't spend all my time daydreaming about the future hypothetical events, I spend lots of time focusing on the present need-to-dos in my reality. I don't even have so much time to spend in this forum, my number of posts is so little.

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    I spend lots of time focusing on the present need-to-dos in my reality.
    IMHO...

    Our life here on earth is not reality, it is just a dream from collective consciousness to learn lesson in 3D world experience.
    "God created man to his own image".

    Everything is temporary in this life, nothing is permanent. We are nothing.
    Therefore do not be attached to something that we love. Sooner or later we will leave someday.

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    If Earth is facing a physical planetary threat such as the sun decaying and going supernova or going to blow
    The Sun doesn't have enough mass to become a supernova. Its mass is less than the Chandrasekhar mass (approximately 1.4 Suns) - and it has no way to gain mass.

    When the Sun comes to the end of its life (In about 5 billion years) it'll slowly grow into a red giant.

    This is the kind of channeled nonsense that discredits the alternative media. Please check your facts before spreading it further.


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    The Sun doesn't have enough mass to become a supernova. Its mass is less than the Chandrasekhar mass (approximately 1.4 Suns) - and it has no way to gain mass.

    When the Sun comes to the end of its life (In about 5 billion years) it'll slowly grow into a red giant.

    This is the kind of channeled nonsense that discredits the alternative media. Please check your facts before spreading it further.

    I was constructing a dramatic example, and dramatic examples are usually exaggerated and not based on facts.

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    Dear friend - note that I have never said that "2012 is BS and nonsense".

    2012 is clearly very real - it'll last for 12 months, and we'll all experience it!

    Part of the problem is that '2012' means very different things to different people.

    If you ask 20 different New Age commentators what '2012' means to them, you'll get 20 different answers (maybe more). My own views are specific:
    • There will be no global cataclysm such as a pole shift or nuclear war.
    • There will be no 'mass ascension'.
    • The Earth will not divide in two or 'ascend to the fifth dimension' (or anywhere else).
    • No-one is coming to rescue us or airlift anyone out.
    • There will be nothing special about 21 December 2012 apart from that the entire New Age community will go temporarily insane, to recover very quickly the next day... after nothing has happened.
    Besides that - all kinds of important events might occur, and probably will.
    Oh Gee, what have we here.

    Now correct me if I am wrong folks but I don't think we have adepts on this forum, no clairvoyant master who can say for certainty what is going to appear or disappear in 2012. Yes we all know Blossom's prediction did not come to fruition but no one can say with any certainty exactly what disaster might occur two years down the track.

    I myself do hope they turn up in droves up there timerty, I do not like what I see everyday and I would be totally joyous if we could get some major help in getting rid of corrupt governments and living a peaceful, loving life.

    As for the motherships out wherever timerty, where they be huge ships or something else, the fact imho is interstellar craft from other galaxies, time or whatever don't have to get here by travelling for years, they get appear above us within an instant. Buy hey that's just mho.

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    Oh Gee, what have we here.

    Now correct me if I am wrong folks but I don't think we have adepts on this forum, no clairvoyant master who can say for certainty what is going to appear or disappear in 2012. Yes we all know Blossom's prediction did not come to fruition but no one can say with any certainty exactly what disaster might occur two years down the track.

    I myself do hope they turn up in droves up there timerty, I do not like what I see everyday and I would be totally joyous if we could get some major help in getting rid of corrupt governments and living a peaceful, loving life.

    As for the motherships out wherever timerty, where they be huge ships or something else, the fact imho is interstellar craft from other galaxies, time or whatever don't have to get here by travelling for years, they get appear above us within an instant. Buy hey that's just mho.
    Im with you Tuza Ive just watched a video of Nassim Haramein which I placed on the ego thread, so wont repeat here.

    In essence he is saying that we pulse in an out of existence every mili second, we go from form to formless and back again
    Now he claims that makes it possible for us to move from one place to another in an instant, distance is of no relevance
    So more advanced beings may well have mastered that so with but a thought can appear or disappear in UFOs
    "Beam me up Scottie" could well be a fact in the very near future.
    In the video near the end he also shows pictures of skulls that have been found, they are not human as such, same shape as the crystal skulls in the Indiana Jones film.
    I am sure there is enough evidence to positively say that we have been visited by advanced beings who helped in the building of the pyramids etc
    There is every chance that we will be visited in the future.
    So I suggest that anyone interested in this topic views the video, its long well presented, some not relevant but many gems in there .
    for those interested in space travel and spirituality, he brings science and Creator together beautifully.
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    Quote Posted by greybeard (here)
    Im with you Tuza Ive just watched a video of Nassim Haramein which I placed on the ego thread, so wont repeat here.

    In essence he is saying that we pulse in an out of existence every mili second, we go from form to formless and back again
    Now he claims that makes it possible for us to move from one place to another in an instant, distance is of no relevance
    So more advanced beings may well have mastered that so with but a thought can appear or disappear in UFOs
    "Beam me up Scottie" could well be a fact in the very near future.
    In the video near the end he also shows pictures of skulls that have been found, they are not human as such, same shape as the crystal skulls in the Indiana Jones film.
    I am sure there is enough evidence to positively say that we have been visited by advanced beings who helped in the building of the pyramids etc
    There is every chance that we will be visited in the future.
    So I suggest that anyone interested in this topic views the video, its long well presented, some not relevant but many gems in there .
    for those interested in space travel and spirituality, he brings science and Creator together beautifully.
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    Hi there, Chris -

    Of course we've been visited in the past, and will be visited in the future.

    Sighting, contact and communication are happening somewhere almost every day round the world - literally.

    And I'm as sure as I can be that teleportation is already an operational reality.

    None of this is connected with the claimed 2012 mass landings - the subject of the thread - which are belief systems based almost entirely on channeled messages.

    To believe that we will be saved by benevolent beings is a New Age Religion.

    There's some thin evidence to support that this might happen. But timelines have changed so much since (for instance, the 1980s - when 'Mr' X read the classified documents he reported), that now all bets are off. There's been no nuclear war either - which has also been predicted by insiders, channelers, and contactees alike.

    In my view there is currently no basis for rationally expecting mass landings - unless they're a false-flag deception. This is a very important issue indeed.

    I think we're in open water here, in which anything can happen at all. That's a good thing. But there are still real threats - the problem with the New Age belief systems is that they disempower us (as all religion does) because we are giving our power away to a hoped-for-benevolent savior.

    This is the point... anyone hoping for a savior is likely to be disappointed. We have the job of fixing this ourselves. To wish for anything else is hopeful escapism.

    Hoping for the ETs to rescue us, and hoping for the Christian Second Coming, are very similar phenomena.
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    Default Re: Arrival of Alien Ships in 2012 Mentioned by Various Project Camelot Sources

    Hi Bill
    I should have been more specific.
    Im with Tuza as far as UFO,s appearing in an instant.
    However like you I dont see the human race being rescued en mass or ascending as per New age or second coming belief systems.
    However I think its possible that the human race may evolve very rapidly now both spiritually and in our capabilities to get things done in new ways that will be beneficial to the planet and life in general. We may get help with that we may not.
    Energy from the sun may bring about change as David Wilcock suggests.
    Im open minded.
    Basically im agreeing with your take on things Bill.
    Thanks for bringing the forum into being it has given me much pleasure over the two years I have been a member of PA 1 and 2.
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