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    Quote Posted by Grizz Griswold (here)
    Here's a little Quote..That may me relative to the thread.

    “There is no such thing as a problem without a gift for you in its hands. You seek problems because you need their gifts.”
    ― Richard Bach

    Lessons to be learned usually come forth as problems.
    The only problem we have is: realizing we are not separate from God. Here on Earth we have unlimited opportunities
    to see God/Creator....We see God/Creator in our Brothers. As We see our Brother We see Ourselves and God.

    I hope this spurs more discussion
    I appreciate each and every post.

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    Yes this is true--however there are levels --you could say different "spiritual" vibrations.
    The experiences that were the most painful taught the "me" the most
    From the seeming lack of love I learned Self worth.
    Jealousy and frustration led to forgiving and to some understanding in the world of cause and effect.

    However through daily spiritual practice, eventually, I came to the realization that the Self--the inner core was unchanged --not stained--not damaged.
    The persona at its level is still damaged--vulnerable and sensitive.
    There is now an ability to quickly see through ego reaction as it is arising and just let it be without the need to be affected by the ups and downs.

    Life goes on and there have been situations where I could have been overwhelmed------compassion arises were it may be helpful.

    Nasargadatta said "Unconditional love is only possible if enlightened---otherwise there is always some "pay value" if only a good feeling to have helped."

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    Default Re: Lessons To Be Learned...The Special Relationship

    Addiction is a love affair with the " whatever" --this may be subconscious but the need for the high is put before all else.
    The love of a spouse, of family---can not break the spell.
    Religious belief to no avail--some of the cloth are addicted
    Medicine no relief--some Drs are addicted
    Addiction of any kind has no respect of social position or beliefs.

    The unconditional love is an energy to be found at most Twelve step meetings --its not personal--not coming from an individual, but the group energy manifest this unconditional love--acceptance. This acceptance and energy can bring about change---only if the person is ready to accept the suggestions.

    Put no head above your own --is good advice--we are all equal--albeit in different ways.

    This may seem off topic but there is more than one kind of special relationship.

    Chris
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    Default Re: Lessons To Be Learned...The Special Relationship

    Have enjoyed reading all these posts! It seems each person comes from his/her own particular set of circumstances. Some people live their entire lives feeling no need to try & figure out anything.....just coasting along with what has come their way. Why do some of us wish to "understand'?! I remember reading here recently that the Base Reality is Consciousness. Would that be a continuous flowing? Each person seems to have a certain idea as his/her own "base" starting point. Is that why there is so much confusion? As we move through Life, what we consider our Base Reality may change, which in turn changes how we think about The Whole!

    Perhaps this is why I don't even like the word "God" anymore as each person has his/her own definition of what that word entails. I prefer to imagine a vast Sea of underlying Unconditional Love flowing through all Universes & Realities where all is "allowable", but each Being, sovereign, able to make individual choices. It IS interesting to sit at the latter end of my life & look back over all that has occurred realizing now that some of the events were "guided" & I had no idea of what was going on as I lived through the circumstances.

    I have no idea "who" or "what" guided me to Avalon, but the interaction here has allowed my vision to broaden immensely! Thanks Bill!!

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    Quote Posted by greybeard (here)
    Addiction is a love affair with the " whatever" --this may be subconscious but the need for the high is put before all else.
    The love of a spouse, of family---can not break the spell.
    Religious belief to no avail--some of the cloth are addicted
    Medicine no relief--some Drs are addicted
    Addiction of any kind has no respect of social position or beliefs.

    The unconditional love is an energy to be found at most Twelve step meetings --its not personal--not coming from an individual, but the group energy manifest this unconditional love--acceptance. This acceptance and energy can bring about change---only if the person is ready to accept the suggestions.

    Put no head above your own --is good advice--we are all equal--albeit in different ways.

    This may seem off topic but there is more than one kind of special relationship.

    Chris
    All good stuff Chris..
    Everything!!!! except what is to be found within "Ourselves"
    Is the stuff of addiction/the problem and will keep us
    from our True Self/ God/Creator

    Love
    b

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    Quote Posted by Foxie Loxie (here)
    Have enjoyed reading all these posts! It seems each person comes from his/her own particular set of circumstances. Some people live their entire lives feeling no need to try & figure out anything.....just coasting along with what has come their way. Why do some of us wish to "understand'?! I remember reading here recently that the Base Reality is Consciousness. Would that be a continuous flowing? Each person seems to have a certain idea as his/her own "base" starting point. Is that why there is so much confusion? As we move through Life, what we consider our Base Reality may change, which in turn changes how we think about The Whole!

    Perhaps this is why I don't even like the word "God" anymore as each person has his/her own definition of what that word entails. I prefer to imagine a vast Sea of underlying Unconditional Love flowing through all Universes & Realities where all is "allowable", but each Being, sovereign, able to make individual choices. It IS interesting to sit at the latter end of my life & look back over all that has occurred realizing now that some of the events were "guided" & I had no idea of what was going on as I lived through the circumstances.

    I have no idea "who" or "what" guided me to Avalon, but the interaction here has allowed my vision to broaden immensely! Thanks Bill!!
    Thank You...Foxie Loxie

    It seems life experience here is one of learning, the pains and fleeting joy that have come, all lessons. There seem to be lessons that present themselves
    for the learning. These days I long for the lessons and in Gratitude I accept them, when we become
    complacent, thinking everything is fine is usually when we get slammed by a really big lesson.
    My advice: don't get too comfortable here, this place isn't Our home.
    Or I may be completely full of it!

    b
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    Default Re: Lessons To Be Learned...The Special Relationship

    Life is pain, joy and suffering. It's all. This is why the term equanimity is often mentioned. We have to accept these dark moments and have to learn what is causing us to suffer and work on them. Sometimes we feel better without doing anything because the problem was made up by the brain. If everything was predictable and easy, wouldn't life be boring?

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    ~ Become a Lake ~

    An aging master grew tired of his apprentice’s complaints. One morning, he sent him to get some salt. When the apprentice returned, the master told him to mix a handful of salt in a glass of water and then drink it.

    “How does it taste?” the master asked.
    “Bitter,” said the apprentice.

    The master chuckled and then asked the young man to take the same handful of salt and put it in the lake. The two walked in silence to the nearby lake and once the apprentice swirled his handful of salt in the water, the old man said, “Now drink from the lake.”

    As the water dripped down the young man’s chin, the master asked, “How does it taste?”

    “Fresh,” remarked the apprentice.
    “Do you taste the salt?” asked the master.

    “No,” said the young man. At this the master sat beside this serious young man, and explained softly:

    “The pain of life is pure salt; no more, no less. The amount of pain in life remains exactly the same. However, the amount of bitterness we taste depends on the container we put the pain in. So when you are in pain, the only thing you can do is to enlarge your sense of things. Stop being a glass. Become a lake.”
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    Quote Posted by greybeard (here)
    Addiction is a love affair with the " whatever" --this may be subconscious but the need for the high is put before all else.
    The love of a spouse, of family---can not break the spell.
    Religious belief to no avail--some of the cloth are addicted
    Medicine no relief--some Drs are addicted
    Addiction of any kind has no respect of social position or beliefs.

    The unconditional love is an energy to be found at most Twelve step meetings --its not personal--not coming from an individual, but the group energy manifest this unconditional love--acceptance. This acceptance and energy can bring about change---only if the person is ready to accept the suggestions.

    Put no head above your own --is good advice--we are all equal--albeit in different ways.

    This may seem off topic but there is more than one kind of special relationship.

    Chris
    Is it not the individual person's soul that recognizes the unconditional love, as being part of the Whole?
    When one's consciousness rises to a higher frequency,
    it finds itself in a group energy which manifest unconditional love.
    In reality, it embraces all existing beings, unconditionally.
    We as collective consciousness strive to becoming more aware and open to receiving this.

    Yes, there is indeed more than one kind of special relationship.
    They are all equally meaningful, albeit in subtle different ways.

    Numbers increase the more one is ready to receive the lessons through each relationship.
    Although details are varied, the overall lesson is to experience unconditional love.


    Quote Posted by Foxie Loxie (here)
    Have enjoyed reading all these posts! It seems each person comes from his/her own particular set of circumstances. Some people live their entire lives feeling no need to try & figure out anything.....just coasting along with what has come their way. Why do some of us wish to "understand'?! I remember reading here recently that the Base Reality is Consciousness. Would that be a continuous flowing? Each person seems to have a certain idea as his/her own "base" starting point. Is that why there is so much confusion? As we move through Life, what we consider our Base Reality may change, which in turn changes how we think about The Whole!

    Perhaps this is why I don't even like the word "God" anymore as each person has his/her own definition of what that word entails. I prefer to imagine a vast Sea of underlying Unconditional Love flowing through all Universes & Realities where all is "allowable", but each Being, sovereign, able to make individual choices. It IS interesting to sit at the latter end of my life & look back over all that has occurred realizing now that some of the events were "guided" & I had no idea of what was going on as I lived through the circumstances.

    I have no idea "who" or "what" guided me to Avalon, but the interaction here has allowed my vision to broaden immensely! Thanks Bill!!
    Thanks Foxie Loxie for sharing your thoughts

    Developing one's capacity to "understand" is to figure out the reasons.
    Everything happens for a reason.

    We find solutions to move forward by first understanding - accepting things as how they are
    gives better insight on what we should let go of, and new things that we can receive.
    Even in very difficult situations, gaining deeper understanding of why things have happened that way
    allows us to forgive, have more empathy, compassion, love.

    We continuously flow with the changes that bring opportunities for us to learn and grow from.
    So grateful that I'm still alive in this earthly world, and for everything that lifts me up.

    Many thanks to Bill and everyone here on PA for one of the greatest opportunities we can have.
    Remember that all is One. -Edgar Cayce

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