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    Default GMO Conspiracy - New Wikileaks Cable

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    (NaturalNews) Wikileaks continues to rock the political world by shedding light on conspiracies, corruption and cover-ups. The latest batch of diplomatic cables released by Wikileaks reveals what can only be characterized as a U.S.-led conspiracy to force GMOs onto European countries by making those countries pay a steep price if they resist.

    The cable reveals the words of Craig Stapleton, the US ambassador to France, who was pushing the commercial interests of the biotech industry by attempting to force GMOs into France. In his own words (below), he expresses his frustration with the idea that France might pass environmental laws that would hamper the expansion of GMOs:

    "Europe is moving backwards not forwards on this issue with France playing a leading role, along with Austria, Italy and even the [European] Commission... Moving to retaliation will make clear that the current path has real costs to EU interests and could help strengthen European pro-biotech voice."

    Got that so far? His own words: "Retaliation" as a way to "make [it] clear" that resisting GMOs will have a price.

    Stapleton goes on to say something rather incredible:

    "Country team Paris recommends that we calibrate a target retaliation list that causes some pain across the EU since this is a collective responsibility, but that also focuses in part on the worst culprits. The list should be measured rather than vicious and must be sustainable over the long term, since we should not expect an early victory..."

    As you read these words again, remember that these are the words of the U.S. ambassador to France who is suggesting the US "calibrate a target retaliation list" in order to "cause some pain across the EU" that must be "sustainable over the long term."

    The global GMO conspiracy is no longer a theory
    Need we say anything more? This cable proves, once and for all, that there is a global GMO conspiracy where government operatives work in secret to push Monsanto's GMO agenda while punishing opponents of GMOs and adding them to a "target retaliation list."

    This cable also proves that NaturalNews has been right all along about the GMO conspiracy, and that GMO opponents such as Jeffrey Smith are battling what can only be called an evil conspiracy to control the world's food supply. It also proves that when Alex Jones talks about the global conspiracy to control the world food supply, he's not just ranting. He's warning about the reality of the world in which we now live.


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    Default US Ambassador to France caught by Wikileaks plotting for Monsanto

    Dear NaturalNews readers,

    Today's story will absolutely astonish you. The U.S. ambassador to France has been caught in a cable released by Wikileaks plotting to create a "retaliatory target list" against opponents who resist GMOs in Europe.

    In his own words, he said the U.S. should "cause some pain" across the EU in order to force nations to accept genetically modified seeds from Monsanto.

    These incredible revelations are covered in today's feature story, which includes quotes from Jeffrey Smith of the IRT, who shares some stunning information about what can only be called a global GMO conspiracy:
    http://www.naturalnews.com/030828_GMOs_Wikileaks.html


    Check out this good news: Vermont is fighting against government food tyranny with a proposal that would protect food sovereignty and guarantee its citizens the right to grow their own food without the interference of Washington:
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    Here's the story:

    http://www.naturalnews.com/030828_GMOs_Wikileaks.html
    Wikileaks continues to rock the political world by shedding light on conspiracies, corruption and cover-ups. The latest batch of diplomatic cables released by Wikileaks reveals what can only be characterized as a U.S.-led conspiracy to force GMOs onto European countries by making those countries pay a steep price if they resist.

    The cable reveals the words of Craig Stapleton, the US ambassador to France, who was pushing the commercial interests of the biotech industry by attempting to force GMOs into France. In his own words (below), he expresses his frustration with the idea that France might pass environmental laws that would hamper the expansion of GMOs:

    "Europe is moving backwards not forwards on this issue with France playing a leading role, along with Austria, Italy and even the [European] Commission... Moving to retaliation will make clear that the current path has real costs to EU interests and could help strengthen European pro-biotech voice."

    Got that so far? His own words: "Retaliation" as a way to "make [it] clear" that resisting GMOs will have a price.

    Stapleton goes on to say something rather incredible:

    "Country team Paris recommends that we calibrate a target retaliation list that causes some pain across the EU since this is a collective responsibility, but that also focuses in part on the worst culprits. The list should be measured rather than vicious and must be sustainable over the long term, since we should not expect an early victory..."

    As you read these words again, remember that these are the words of the U.S. ambassador to France who is suggesting the US "calibrate a target retaliation list" in order to "cause some pain across the EU" that must be "sustainable over the long term."

    The global GMO conspiracy is no longer a theory
    Need we say anything more? This cable proves, once and for all, that there is a global GMO conspiracy where government operatives work in secret to push Monsanto's GMO agenda while punishing opponents of GMOs and adding them to a "target retaliation list."

    This cable also proves that NaturalNews has been right all along about the GMO conspiracy, and that GMO opponents such as Jeffrey Smith are battling what can only be called an evil conspiracy to control the world's food supply. It also proves that when Alex Jones talks about the global conspiracy to control the world food supply, he's not just ranting. He's warning about the reality of the world in which we now live.

    As Jeffery Smith said today in a Democracy Now interview:

    "We’ve been saying for years that the United States government is joined at the hip with Monsanto and pushing GMOs as part of Monsanto’s agenda on the rest of the world. This lays bare the mechanics of that effort. We have Craig Stapleton, the former ambassador to France, specifically asking the U.S. government to retaliate and cause some harm throughout the European Union." (http://www.democracynow.org/seo/201...)

    Military terms
    Do you notice something about these words used by the US ambassador to France? "Calibrate a target retaliation list" sounds eerily familiar, doesn't it? It's the kind of language you might find tossed around in a military bombing war exercise.

    That's no coincidence: These government operatives quite literally consider themselves to be at war with the world, and they intend to conquer the world with their genetically modified poisons. They will do anything, it seems, to force-feed their deadly crops to the public.

    Eight important realizations from these leaks
    This Wikileaks cable brings up all sorts of issues that each might deserve a separate article, but here are the highlights of what comes to my mind on this issue:

    Realization #1) Wikileaks is valuable for exposing the government lies in our world. Without Wikileaks, we never would have known about these cables which prove the existence of this GMO conspiracy.

    Realization #2) US government diplomatic officials are working for the corporations! It's just as we've described here on NaturalNews numerous times -- Big Government is really just an extension of the most evil and most powerful corporations that now dominate our planet: The drug companies, the weapons manufacturers, the agricultural giants and so on. Here's what Jeffrey Smith had to say about governments conspiring with Monsanto:

    "In 2009, we have a cable from the ambassador to Spain from the United States asking for intervention there, asking the government to help formulate a biotech strategy and support the government -- members of the government in Spain that want to promote GMOs, as well. And here, they specifically indicate that they sat with the director of Monsanto for the region and got briefed by him about the politics of the region and created strategies with him to promote the GMO agenda."

    Realization #3) The US is willing to retaliate against European countries if they try to block GMOs. This brings up the question: Why is the US so desperate to push GMOs on Europe? Clearly there is another agenda behind all this (maybe we'll learn more in future Wikileaks releases).

    Realization #4) No wonder the US government has declared war on Wikileaks because these dark secrets and "conspiracy notes" are never made public through any normal means. It takes a whistleblower to expose the true government corruption taking place in our world today.

    Realization #5) The GMO conspiracy reaches to the highest levels of global control. This US ambassador Stapleton wasn't just a nobody. He was, in fact, the co-owner of the Texas Rangers with former President George W. Bush! His wife, by the way, is George Bush's cousin. This is a conspiracy involving the highest-ranking officials across multiple countries who are pushing a GMO agenda that's poisoning people across the planet.

    Realization #6) Governments are literally trying to kill their own people. It is widely known in the inner circles of power that GMOs are deadly, but governments keep pushing them anyway. As Jeffrey Smith explains in his interview with Democracy Now:

    "...the person who was in charge of FDA policy in 1992, Monsanto’s former attorney, Michael Taylor, he allowed GMOs on the market without any safety studies and without labeling, and the policy claimed that the agency was not aware of any information showing that GMOs were significantly different. Seven years later, because of a lawsuit, 44,000 secret internal FDA memos revealed that that policy was a lie. Not only were the scientists at the FDA aware that GMOs were different, they had warned repeatedly that they might create allergies, toxins, new diseases and nutritional problems. But they were ignored, and their warnings were even denied, and the policy went forth allowing the deployment GMOs into the food supply with virtually no safety studies."

    Realization #7) The GMO conspiracy is always reframed as "science". At one point in the leaked cables, Stapleton warns that in opposing GMOs, France would "roll back established science-based decision making." The GMO conspiracy, you have to remember, is always hidden behind the term "science" so that anyone who opposes GMOs can be characterized as being somehow against "scientific thinking."

    All this gives science a bad name, of course, but I suppose that since the history of science is filled with arrogant scientists poisoning people in the name of science (mercury, vaccines, radiation, plastics, medications, etc.), we shouldn't be all that surprised to observe this.

    Realization #8) Spain has been a key co-conspirator to push the U.S. GMO agenda. Much of the conspiring taking place in the EU has been spearheaded by Spain, whose officials met personally with the head of Monsanto to plot their push of GMOs into Europe.

    All of a sudden the Blackwater story adds up
    This all reminds me of a story published a few months back by The Nation in which Jeremy Scahill exposed a link between Monsanto and the military contractor known as Blackwater. His article claimed that Monsanto had hired Blackwater spies to "infiltrate activist groups organizing against the multinational biotech firm." (http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/09/...)

    Monsanto vehemently denied the allegation. I looked hard at covering that story at the time but could not substantiate the accusations to my satisfaction. However, given the new information gleaned from these leaked diplomatic cables -- which blatantly state that the GMO conspirators plan to "calibrate a target retaliation list" -- all of a sudden the Blackwater story adds up.

    This is the verbage of a military-style retaliation campaign, and that's exactly the business of Blackwater. Remember how Stapleton said the US needed to "cause some pain?" That's Blackwater's calling card!

    Although these cables don't prove any connection between Monsanto and Blackwater, they do lend credence to the idea that such a link is not only possibly, but perhaps even probable. It clearly deserves additional investigation.

    Regardless of whether the Blackwater / Monsanto link is ever proven, what's crystal clear from all this is that the global GMO conspiracy is very real and that GMO conspirators plot retaliatory actions against any nation that refuses to allow GMOs into their country.

    The whole thing is then disguised as "science" so that anyone who opposes it can be branded as "non-scientific." This is the same sick way in which vaccines are pushed, too: They're called "scientific" even when they're based entirely on scientific fraud (as are GMOs).

    How governments really operate
    Above all, what these Wikileaks cables really reveal is that government conspiracies are, of course, not only real but that they are taking place right now. Diplomats and ambassadors are, in effect, government thugs who engage in the most unethical actions, full of threats and retaliation, in order to serve the financial interests of their corporate masters.

    That's how the world really works, despite the Disney-like image portrayed by the mainstream media. Behind the scenes, the U.S. government is literally plotting with Monsanto to take over the world's food supply. That is not an exaggeration. It's not conjecture. It is a statement of fact based on the words of the government's own operatives (who obviously didn't know their words would ever be made public).

    Through Wikileaks, we have been given a glimpse into the truth behind the Great Wall of government lies. And that truth, it turns out, is a lot uglier than most people could have imagined. (It's no surprise to me, because I've seen things that most regular people have never witnessed. But to a regular Joe Blow working his J.O.B. and watching the evening news, the hard-core truth about the world is a bit too much to handle...)

    Personally, I can't wait to see what other dark secrets are buried in these Wikileaks cables. And it all makes me wish we had a Wikileaks for the FDA, too. Can you imagine all the dirty secrets that would come out of the FDA's offices if we could read their emails? We need an FDA leaker.

    The other thought that comes to mind is how much I wouldn't want to be Julian Assange right now. His head is now the world's most powerful bullet magnet... especially when government rifles are anywhere nearby. If the U.S. government would conspire to create a "retaliation target list" of nations that are merely resisting GMOs, can you imagine what they will do if they ever get their hands on Assange?

    Read the leaked cables right here:
    http://213.251.145.96/cable/2008/02...

    and

    http://213.251.145.96/cable/2009/05...

    (Note: These links may not be active for very long because the governments of the world are obviously trying to shut down all the websites that post this information. The truth, it seems, is just too dangerous to allow it to be openly published.)

    How to turn all this around
    Don't let all this get you down. You can take action to help turn this around!

    Action Item #1) Don't buy GMO foods! Look for the non-GMO "Project Verified" label on foods.

    Action Item #2) Urge lawmakers to oppose GMOs or require honest GMO labeling of foods.

    Action Item #3) Help support the Institute for Responsible Technology and other non-profits working to oppose GMOs.

    Action Item #4) Stay informed! Read NaturalNews and our Facebook GMO Dangers page (www.facebook.com/GMO.dangers) to stay up on this issue. The IRT (above) will keep you even more deeply informed on GMOs.

    Action Item #5) Share what you know! Share videos, cartoons, articles and websites with your friends and family members who also care about protecting their health from GMOs.


    Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/030828_GM...#ixzz192x1RZcx

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    Default Re: GMO Conspiracy - New Wikileaks Cable

    Wikileaks reveals a politician yapping about GMO. News? Or Olds? I just went to Google and typed in the following keywords: Codex Alimentarius and Monsanto. The first website that came up, I went in and checked it out: http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/?page_id=169

    beginExcerpt
    The Natural Solutions Foundation meets regularly with foreign Heads of State, Ministers of Health, National Codex Committee members, journalists and health freedom/consumer advocates to alert them to their options in dealing with the threat Codex represents to their food security and safety and educate them about the power and protection inherent in implementing the protective Codex Two Step Process.
    end


    In short, TMastardsTB and their serving apparatchiks are well aware of the GMO health risks; equally, they are ignoring the warnings in the duty of a political agenda. How do we know this? You know this because they've already passed laws in some countries that favor the pharmaceutical companies and disfavor the commerce of natural supplements and the practice of homeopathy.

    Did we really need Wikileaks (and this most recent cable release) to figure out that GMO and Monsanto are pushing legislation behind the scenes?

    Isn't it more the case of the Rothschild one-eyed psyOps positioning itself to be the savior of the masses ... by midnight-riding Paul Revere's pony from Boston to Lexington (after having cast a spell on the American people that has made them (temporarily??) forget they are living in an age of instant text messaging)?

    Humble opinions all around.



    ps: Btw, that was just the first website that came up when I went to Google. The information is out there in volume and hidden in plain sight. And it has been there long before Wikileaks mounted the communications pony.

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    http://www.naturalnews.com/030827_fo...y_Vermont.html
    (NaturalNews) In response to the recent passage of "food safety" bills S. 510 and corresponding H.R. 2751, the Vermont Coalition for Food Sovereignty has drafted its own resolution called "The Vermont Resolution for Food Sovereignty." Crafted to declare and protect the food and health freedom rights of all Vermont citizens, the resolution is essentially a warning to the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) that it does not have jurisdiction over the food choices of the People of Vermont.

    The resolution declares that food freedom is a "fundamental prerequisite to life," and that individuals have every right to save seeds, grow what they wish, and buy and sell the fruits of their labor without interference from an over-zealous, tyrannical government. And if any federal official tries to infringe on these rights, the People "shall resist any and all" of them.

    Additionally, the resolution declares that, on the basis of the 10th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, the People of Vermont completely reject any and all "Federal decrees, statutes, regulations or corporate practices that threaten our basic human right to save seed, grow, process, consume and exchange food and farm products within the State of Vermont."

    The recently-passed "Food Safety Modernization Act" essentially hands over control of the nation's food supply to the FDA. The legislation gives the agency free reign to mandate food recalls at will and require even small producers to jump through burdensome regulatory hoops in order to buy and sell their goods. The entire scheme has nothing to do with food safety and everything to do with giving the FDA more control over the food supply.

    The Vermont Coalition for Food Sovereignty is encouraging concerned citizens to review the resolution and encourage their local and state politicians to co-sponsor it, both in Vermont and in other states.

    Sources for this story include:

    http://www.vtcommons.org/blog/2010/...




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    Default Re: GMO Conspiracy - New Wikileaks Cable

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    "Did we really need Wikileaks (and this most recent cable release) to figure out that GMO and Monsanto are pushing legislation behind the scenes? " Endquote]


    People who already know what is going on behind the scenes may not need Wikileaks to clue them in, but Wikileaks is getting a huge amount of attention even in the mainstream news, and so it is invaluable in that it may wake up others to what is going on, and since it is offering clear proof in small bytes, it speeds the process up.

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    Default Re: GMO Conspiracy - New Wikileaks Cable

    Quote Posted by zookumar (here)
    Wikileaks reveals a politician yapping about GMO. News? Or Olds? I just went to Google and typed in the following keywords: Codex Alimentarius and Monsanto. The first website that came up, I went in and checked it out: http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/?page_id=169

    beginExcerpt
    The Natural Solutions Foundation meets regularly with foreign Heads of State, Ministers of Health, National Codex Committee members, journalists and health freedom/consumer advocates to alert them to their options in dealing with the threat Codex represents to their food security and safety and educate them about the power and protection inherent in implementing the protective Codex Two Step Process.
    end


    In short, TMastardsTB and their serving apparatchiks are well aware of the GMO health risks; equally, they are ignoring the warnings in the duty of a political agenda. How do we know this? You know this because they've already passed laws in some countries that favor the pharmaceutical companies and disfavor the commerce of natural supplements and the practice of homeopathy.

    Did we really need Wikileaks (and this most recent cable release) to figure out that GMO and Monsanto are pushing legislation behind the scenes?

    Isn't it more the case of the Rothschild one-eyed psyOps positioning itself to be the savior of the masses ... by midnight-riding Paul Revere's pony from Boston to Lexington (after having cast a spell on the American people that has made them (temporarily??) forget they are living in an age of instant text messaging)?

    Humble opinions all around.



    ps: Btw, that was just the first website that came up when I went to Google. The information is out there in volume and hidden in plain sight. And it has been there long before Wikileaks mounted the communications pony.
    To follow that line of thought, do we really need any information at all? Or, is all information good information? Perhaps the cable will reach eyes that healthfreedomusa and others will not. Or, perhaps the cable is the proverbial straw for some. Do I personally find it noteworthy that the US Ambassador to France made these comments? Yes. Does that mean my eyes and ears are closed to the possibility that it is a 'leader' if you will? No.

    Some of us (perhaps myself included) will be blind to the truth in the end if our cynical nature is such that the truth appears to be the greatest conspiracy of all. The best position may simply be no position at all. I find for me personally, that staying in a state of balance - outside of speculative judgment - is extremely difficult. Easy to get caught up in my own spins and whims.

    The truth may be far more simple and/or strange than I can conceive through my own set of muddied glasses. Time will (hopefully) tell.

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    Default Re: GMO Conspiracy - New Wikileaks Cable

    Hi Onawah,

    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    Quote Posted by zookumar (here)
    "Did we really need Wikileaks (and this most recent cable release) to figure out that GMO and Monsanto are pushing legislation behind the scenes? "
    People who already know what is going on behind the scenes may not need Wikileaks to clue them in, but Wikileaks is getting a huge amount of attention even in the mainstream news, and so it is invaluable in that it may wake up others to what is going on, and since it is offering clear proof in small bytes, it speeds the process up.
    On the surface, it would appear to be so. Still, speeding up the awareness process by squeezing in a teaspoon of informational wheat through pipes occluded with a thousand bushels of informational chaff ... is illogical. IMHO, the best way to drown the sound of a piccolo is to position it in the center of a quincunx with four tubas. That being said, I don't see the wisdom in continuing to allow the master to control the spigot on the information flow, especially when the slaves have broken through the door of the pipeworks factory.

    My argument, of course, requires a proper understanding of Wikileaks ... is it slave-owned? Or is it Soros-owned (e.g. Rothschild-branded)?
    Your argument assumes - without critical investigation - that Wikileaks is slave-owned.

    Alas, there is ample preponderance of the evidence to support the rejection of Wikileaks' slave-origin assumption, i.e. it is owned by TMastardsTB. And because it is thus-owned, you can be sure the GMO-leaks are not damaging to their agenda. If anything, it assists this phase of the NWO agenda, e.g. the phase where America is brought down to facilitate the formation of the regional North American Union. One way to bring America down ... is by burning its useful idiot politicians (their value having long been spent). America the Bad! Geneva the Good! ... (or wherever the heck the center of One World Government is being planned.)

    Humble opinions all around.


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    Default Re: GMO Conspiracy - New Wikileaks Cable

    All that circuitous thinking just gives me a headache.
    I like George Green's conclusions about the whole scenario, which is that in the end, even the machinations of the NWO will all serve to the good, though that is of course, probably too simplistic.
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    Default Re: GMO Conspiracy - New Wikileaks Cable

    Hi Jonathon,

    Quote Posted by Jonathon (here)
    To follow that line of thought, do we really need any information at all?
    Truthful information, yes. The junk, no. The junk, alas, is a luxury we can no longer afford. I'd go one further ... basking in all that luxury - for over a century - has contributed to a prodigious waste of mind. No one can argue anymore whether or not there's been a deliberate, engineered dumbing-down of the masses ... or whether such a dumbing-down is what has gotten us to this tipping point of totalitarianism. That would be an argument between pseudointellectuals, IMHO.

    Quote Or, is all information good information? Perhaps the cable will reach eyes that healthfreedomusa and others will not. Or, perhaps the cable is the proverbial straw for some. Do I personally find it noteworthy that the US Ambassador to France made these comments? Yes. Does that mean my eyes and ears are closed to the possibility that it is a 'leader' if you will? No.
    I beg to disagree. A cable engineered by masters (that Wikileaks is master-owned, is demonstrable) is not a cable that serves the slaves. Wikileaks was designed to confuse, distract, clog the cranial corridors with infojunk filler ... to bring about chaos ... from chaos to a new world order. Not investigating the origins of Wikileaks - or uncritically accepting it as a tool designed by and in the duty of slaves -
    is stripping the greater narrative from the debate. You can only get quality information if there is a narrative in place and if the narrative is an accurate one. Otherwise, all of it is junk, e.g. disinformation. In disinformation, facts and fictions, the trivial and the significant, the sensational and the mundane ... are all mixed into a soup that lacks nutrition.

    Quote Some of us (perhaps myself included) will be blind to the truth in the end if our cynical nature is such that the truth appears to be the greatest conspiracy of all. The best position may simply be no position at all. I find for me personally, that staying in a state of balance - outside of speculative judgment - is extremely difficult. Easy to get caught up in my own spins and whims.
    Truth cannot be conspiratorial ... and for the simple reason that truth is a combination of fact and narrative. The liars can give you facts ... but only in a false narrative. For them, critical thinkers are the enemy. The truthseekers, by contrast, attempt to fix facts in their original narrative; and if they are also critical thinkers, they will achieve success. Having said that, critical thinking is a beast apart from speculative judgment. You may understand my exposition of JA and Wikileaks to be mere speculation ... but I think I've preponderated the evidence beyond the necessary threshold for critical thinking. IMHO, those who still insist that JA or Wikileaks are still credible ... are the ones mired in the quicksand of speculative thinking. Speculation against the preponderance of the evidence ... now, where have we seen this before? Short answer: 9.11.2001.

    FWIW, I'm doing my level best to rescue those caught in the quicksand. I'm throwing in my strongest ropes to help drag them out. I don't think I can do much more than that; it certainly won't help anybody if I, too, jumped in.


    Quote The truth may be far more simple and/or strange than I can conceive through my own set of muddied glasses. Time will (hopefully) tell.
    Elton John has windshield wipers on his spectacles. Wise man, that.



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    Quote Posted by zookumar (here)

    .......The liars can give you facts ... but only in a false narrative. For them, critical thinkers are the enemy........

    That's the nub of it right there. They are busily trying to classify what you call 'critical thinking' as any kind of undesirable mentality the population will tolerate. They've tried calling it a mental illness. They've tried calling it wacko conspiracy theory. They've tried calling it terrorism. They will accept any of those that will stick.

    It's important, right now, to keep the public perception of critical thinking healthy. A massive dump of insider DATA like that released via Wikileaks could have a very negative impact on that state of health because of it's "crowbar" effect across the two opposing polarities in popular public perception, 1) trough fed fodder, 2) forbidden glimpses.

    What kind of nutter would argue with the stuff we are finding out from behind the curtain of state secrecy?..... a wise one, in this case, me thinks. It's the 'narative' that does it every time. They can make such a big deal out of a bit of gossip and go through the motions of clamping down on the Internet because we've seen a few glimpses that should have been hidden from us. If they can get away with this it'll be double whammy. "Well, they had to come down on the Internet because of the leaks the hackers were releasing"..... I know that might seem stupid to you and I but they are playing the numbers game and there are still a lot more people out there who don't have even a clue they are being deceived, and not just being casually and corruptly lied to.
    “one should indeed be silent, but not about anything” - Otto Neurath

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    Default Re: GMO Conspiracy - New Wikileaks Cable

    I saw this a bit on Democracy Now the other day - their coverage on the info coming out of the Wikileaks cables has been great over the past month.

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    Good find onawah.

    Quote Check out this good news: Vermont is fighting against government food tyranny with a proposal that would protect food sovereignty and guarantee its citizens the right to grow their own food without the interference of Washington:
    http://www.naturalnews.com/030827_fo...y_Vermont.html

    This is heartening news and a move in the right direction.


    Quote The resolution declares that food freedom is a "fundamental prerequisite to life," and that individuals have every right to save seeds, grow what they wish, and buy and sell the fruits of their labor without interference from an over-zealous, tyrannical government. And if any federal official tries to infringe on these rights, the People "shall resist any and all" of them.

    Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/030827_fo...#ixzz19BDOmBqC

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    way-da go vermont!
    Sounds like the sons of liberty are at it again!

    YEAY!

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    Default U.S. against Europe Over food giant company

    After hearinig chareles talking about genatic modfied seeds that in the future could couse world hunger, i found these interviw about food giant going against european countries that bend the use of their seeds.

    http://articles.mercola.com/sites/ar...-gm-crops.aspx
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    Here's hoping Vermont gets it right :-)

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    GMO = Genetically Modified Organism

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    Default Re: GMO Conspiracy - New Wikileaks Cable

    Quote Posted by jonathon (here)
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    (naturalnews) wikileaks continues to rock the political world by shedding light on conspiracies, corruption and cover-ups. The latest batch of diplomatic cables released by wikileaks reveals what can only be characterized as a u.s.-led conspiracy to force gmos onto european countries by making those countries pay a steep price if they resist.

    The cable reveals the words of craig stapleton, the us ambassador to france, who was pushing the commercial interests of the biotech industry by attempting to force gmos into france. In his own words (below), he expresses his frustration with the idea that france might pass environmental laws that would hamper the expansion of gmos:

    "europe is moving backwards not forwards on this issue with france playing a leading role, along with austria, italy and even the [european] commission... Moving to retaliation will make clear that the current path has real costs to eu interests and could help strengthen european pro-biotech voice."

    got that so far? His own words: "retaliation" as a way to "make [it] clear" that resisting gmos will have a price.

    Stapleton goes on to say something rather incredible:

    "country team paris recommends that we calibrate a target retaliation list that causes some pain across the eu since this is a collective responsibility, but that also focuses in part on the worst culprits. The list should be measured rather than vicious and must be sustainable over the long term, since we should not expect an early victory..."

    as you read these words again, remember that these are the words of the u.s. Ambassador to france who is suggesting the us "calibrate a target retaliation list" in order to "cause some pain across the eu" that must be "sustainable over the long term."

    the global gmo conspiracy is no longer a theory
    need we say anything more? This cable proves, once and for all, that there is a global gmo conspiracy where government operatives work in secret to push monsanto's gmo agenda while punishing opponents of gmos and adding them to a "target retaliation list."

    this cable also proves that naturalnews has been right all along about the gmo conspiracy, and that gmo opponents such as jeffrey smith are battling what can only be called an evil conspiracy to control the world's food supply. It also proves that when alex jones talks about the global conspiracy to control the world food supply, he's not just ranting. He's warning about the reality of the world in which we now live.


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