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    Something guided me to this , this morning. Its an 11 minute video on Nibiru. Its a pretty neutral position but it does lay out the groundwork of this flyby , Time and date unknown. Its not a fear video but an educational video. Remember fear is only created by the unknown anyways. So check it out and enjoy this weekend.And just stay educated, that will help you for anything in the future.

    http://nibiru2017.com/planet-x/nemes...-nasa-warning/

    and for an extra read that comes out every friday in an internet newsletter- check this out too.

    http://zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue565.htm

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    Sorry, some bloke just saying stuff - even with fancy graphics - is not evidence. Ask some amateur astronomers, geologists, meteorologists if they have any evidence of any of this.

    And when nothing happens - again - will this guy fess-up and apologise for distributing shi*e? Will he ***k.

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    ... here we go... AGAIN!

    ... with that psy-op about Nibiru/Planet X (rehashed every year since CIA Nancy Lieder started it). Here is a post from way back:

    Quote Posted by Hervé (here)
    My, my, my... here we go again...

    Here is from Ken Adachi, a former devoted Zeta sucker (a certain PT Barnum reckoned there's one born every minute... so it's a never ending story):

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    I had expected Nancy Lieder and Zeta Talk to disappear from the Internet following the 2003 fiasco, but I guess a built up CIA/NASA/military disinformation psyops like Zeta Talk is simply too juicy a scam to just abandon, so they profer a truly moronic and pathetic 'White Lie' excuse to explain away their prediction failure and just move the date up another eleven years to 2012! So we are treated with another eleven years of disinformation nonsense, fear mongering, anxiety promotion, worry promotion, fear of having children born into such a nightmare world, re-locating to remote, bare bones survial locations, etc., etc., for a whole new generation of suckers, rubes, and newbies who will buy into the Zeta Talk lie with the same wide eyed belief that I bought into it between 1995 and 2003, and wind up posting Youtube videos with ingenious sounding explantions of mysterious celestial body movements in the solar system accounting for this or that "HMO" and similar absurdities. .

    I've also re-printed the current home page from ZetaTalk further below which includes links to the modified Pole Shift explanation mentioned above and the "White Lie' gambit. Remarkable, Nancy also includes the following statement on her current Zeta Talk home page:
    "Note: Where Planet X came into the inner solar system in early 2003, it has not yet passed, though has gone through gyrations while passing the Sun's S Pole and adjusting to the Sun's magnetic field. Some ZetaTalk is best understood in the context of the date written. These topics, below, are organized by date written and should be read in order for a historical perspective. The increase in Earth changes and electromagnetic interference and evidence of Planet X in the inner solar system is palpable. For the very latest ZetaTalk, however, jump to the bottom for news about the current year!"

    Here, we witness the lunacy, ridiculousness, and witlessness of Zeta Talk, Nancy Lieder, and her handlers in full flower. She reports that this huge red planet, Nibiru, which she and Zeta Talk said was 4 times larger and 23 times more dense than Earth, had ENTERED the earth's solar system in 2003; yet still had not "passed."

    How could a 'planet' 4 times larger than earth enter the earth's solar system in 2003 and not be seen by astronomers?
    Full article and antecedents here:

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    You know I've been around avalon since the start, and camelot long before that. I'm not worried about this extra planets if there are extra planets, hell these days between fake news, covert news and just entertaining news I think most of us are having a hard time trying to decide whats real or not. The thing with zeta is much of what they are saying is linked to actual events that are happening now, IE earth changes, power loss, quakes,sink holes, ect ect or is it that we are on such a instant timeline of current events it just seems like its happening more? . As for another pole shift, my thoughts are the earth is a living organism and is growing all the time from within to grow larger. Nothing scientific to support that except just my observation. So is there was to be a planet x , Is the info about extra planets being put out there a seed of fakeness? So to speak.

    I do understand fear controls many but I also am aware we are in a huge shift of cultures and co-habitation of us living together as one. Its actually a very cool time to be on this planet to witness the old crustations of control leaving the earth one by one only for new ideas and better ways of living while respecting this planet.Nobody wants war except for those in power. As for Nick , I'll take the Bloak phrase as I owe you a beer with respect, and Herve always listen to what you have to say as well. I repect everyone comments here as I consider all you like an extended family. But most important this is a college course here with teachers and mentors from all around the world , and for that i say is priceless. Thanks for the links and thanks for comments , it helps balance the scales for me personally.

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    So I was gone for the weekend but I kept thinking of your replys and my connect the dots so to speak over all these past years. So for Herve and Nick and whoever would like to chime in here are some of my questions or inquiries that I would like a opinion or explanation on . I read what you all wrote but here are my lingering thoughts........................................
    1) In regards to Zeta talk, I understand the disappointments or delays in what has been forth told, but lets say there is a council of worlds, lets say there is a delay in process of the earth shift ,such as those humming boxes on the shorelines around the continents and in the oceans to give us more time, and those were reported on many other sources other than the zeta platform. The boxes are to slow the plate shift supposedly.

    2) Why did the state of Wyoming try and purchase a used aircraft carrier several years ago reported in Forbes ? Seems kind of strange but if there's a shift and water displacement over 2 years then it doesn't seem so crazy at all .

    3) As for the planet X sightings all over the world and the trumpeting noises recorded all over the world, is there any merit to that at all? Hell I even have a picture here in my office taken several years ago by a friend who went to Alaska personally and yes there clearly are 2 suns in that photo. I understand astronomers are all over the world but what about my pic and the ones on Zeta from all over. Are they all fake?

    4) Why did Russia build all the underground facilities and especially china build all those ghost cities off the coast lines that nobody lives in?

    5) Then there is Edgar Casey prediction that Oklahoma would be the biggest sea-port in the US one day? He hasn't been wrong on much and there's a entire institute to him.

    6) Then the uptick in quakes and its quite a bit on a 24 hour basis, and I'm speaking of over years not months?

    7) Sinkholes, chem trails, where did Atlantis go ?

    8) In regards to Pangaea, and all the continents being one, doesn't it seem plausible that we have a cycle of disruption of the planet that happens on a re-occurring basis maybe every 3600 years , even in the bible or the hieroglyphs on the ancient walls or the HOPI Indian history?

    I'm only bringing up some of this because in the zeta newsletter every Friday there are back up stories from all other sources being reported on other than zeta and linked to with the explanations. And from a historical aspect of our ancestors . Along with all the crazy weather lately , then what is the explanation. I can tell you from my observation the sun isn't setting and rising in the same position or time lately and the flowers blooming are way out of wack from a timeline of summer. Things are changing , am I afraid, no, far from it, I embrace our future whatever is ahead of us. But there sure seems to me that there are alot more questions being generated these days than they are being answered. So what say you my Avalon family? Help me out a bit here!

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    After 2012 I do not believe

    Evidence?
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    I'm going to add more numbers as I remember them to my list
    9) remember 2 years ago there was going to be a nationwide emergency broadcast drill across all phones, radios, and tv's all at the same time. Per the zetas Prez Obama was going to disclose planet x . I remember reading about the drill on many other sources and then poof, it never happened and there was no explanation why it didn't happen or why it was such a big deal in the first place.

    10) what about the purchase order issued buying the millions of MRE's , water and gas by the US govn't to be stored somewhere around the New Madrid zone? precautions or should there be a why attached to that comment?

    11) In the movie 2012, in the very first few scenes, they show 3 planets almost in a line but they never explain or detail what those bodies are? They just show the sphere's- just food for thought.

    I'll add more later, comments?
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    12) So in today's headlines we have yet another collision of a navy ship by one big oil tanker, The USS Mc cain got slammed by another larger tanker , 10 navy personal missing (prayers) So my # 12 comment is how do huge navy ships with all their compass, radar, and electronic devices have a collision like this , you mean to tell me they can't detect this . Here's a list of the last 4 ships. 4 collisions by USN ships in 1 year, 2 days: 21 Aug: USS McCain 17 June: USS Fitzgerald 9 May: USS Lake Champlain 19 Aug 2016: USS Louisiana . And what about those commercial planes 2 years ago that landed at the wrong airport. ..................... So my question is this , how is this happening, is the earth on a wobble greater than what we know or is the magnetic field going whacked out? Or is there something else impacting this planet ?

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    12) So in today's headlines we have yet another collision of a navy ship by one big oil tanker, The USS Mc cain got slammed by another larger tanker , 10 navy personal missing (prayers) So my # 12 comment is how do huge navy ships with all their compass, radar, and electronic devices have a collision like this , you mean to tell me they can't detect this . Here's a list of the last 4 ships. 4 collisions by USN ships in 1 year, 2 days: 21 Aug: USS McCain 17 June: USS Fitzgerald 9 May: USS Lake Champlain 19 Aug 2016: USS Louisiana . And what about those commercial planes 2 years ago that landed at the wrong airport. ..................... So my question is this , how is this happening, is the earth on a wobble greater than what we know or is the magnetic field going whacked out? Or is there something else impacting this planet ?
    Well, that's nothing at all to do with the Earth's magnetic field, or even any navigational equipment.

    They could see the thing with their own eyes, 600 feet long, heading slowly towards them at 10 knots in a crowded shipping lane. The reports indicate 'poor seamanship'. (And, how. )

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    When I was a kid we watched a lake tanker slowly smash into the riverbank. It happened so slow that the news picked it up while it was happening. It was surreal. I hear that just stopping takes many miles. It took days to get enough tug boats around the tanker to dislodge it. It was right at the mouth of Lake Huron, just near the Blue Water bridge to the states.

    So, just because the collision might be ten miles away does not mean it can be avoided.

    But, war ships are different than commercial ships...

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    12) So in today's headlines we have yet another collision of a navy ship by one big oil tanker, The USS Mc cain got slammed by another larger tanker , 10 navy personal missing (prayers) So my # 12 comment is how do huge navy ships with all their compass, radar, and electronic devices have a collision like this , you mean to tell me they can't detect this . Here's a list of the last 4 ships. 4 collisions by USN ships in 1 year, 2 days: 21 Aug: USS McCain 17 June: USS Fitzgerald 9 May: USS Lake Champlain 19 Aug 2016: USS Louisiana . And what about those commercial planes 2 years ago that landed at the wrong airport. ..................... So my question is this , how is this happening, is the earth on a wobble greater than what we know or is the magnetic field going whacked out? Or is there something else impacting this planet ?
    I would stongly suggest that these sailors should leave their hands off the drugs they transport.

    And by the way, you know what Blue Avians and Nibiru have in common?
    They have never been seen.


    The real deal is this one. This Planet will never ever even get close to us. This has nothing to do with Nibiru.







    for more info on this Planet 9
    https://www.caltech.edu/news/caltech...h-planet-49523
    http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2016/...s-beyond-pluto

    If you want a cool Story about a mysterious plant forget Nibiru.
    Try this one:
    Howard Phillips Lovecraft´s The Whisperer in Darkness
    http://www.hplovecraft.com/writings/...ction/wid.aspx
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    So, just because the collision might be ten miles away does not mean it can be avoided.
    Yes. The huge oil tanker might not to have been able to do anything at all. But the little destroyer should have been able to easily duck out of the way.

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    ... the reason tankers and trawlers (when trawling) have right of way in busy lanes due to their handicapped/limited abilities for maneuvering... learn that watching the Ramon Margalef surveying around El Hierro...

    http://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/...ry:25.0/zoom:4
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    El Hierro, such an exciting time, that was really good teamwork, and the pictures, we could have 'been there', well done to that great team, with scientific knowledge and good research. Keep up the great work.... 👌👍
    Sorry, back to topic.....
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    uzn.....You had me laughing out loud with your Blue Avain & Nibiru comment!!

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    Thanks to all the comments , I want you to punch holes in my theory or at least give it a navy uh, maybe not navy try. I was in the US air force 30 years ago so I'm a little partial. I do still have a hard time why these ships are colliding, and this means I could paddle up to the side with a canoe and board the ship without anybody noticing. Are all these ships on autopilot where everyone is sleeping at night? As for the planet niburi, I am getting educated which is basically what i am asking for , tell me I'm wrong and why, I do want to know. But i do want to know!

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    But the little destroyer should have been able to easily duck out of the way.
    ... should have ... if its electronics were performing normally ... without interference from, just saying, any next generation anti-electronics measures that the Chinese or Russians might have.
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    Regarding the tanker crash, it does look like it get's tricky (to me), but sat nav and regularly updated charts make it easier. Not sure what happens if you can't see a land mass and your sat nav goes down, but here is a short explanation of how vessels navigate and take into consideration the wandering magnetic poles.

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...hs-magnetic-p/

    That is a good point about how long a vessel takes to slow down and change course to avoid another vessel. Where were the crashed vessels from? That should give a little indication of their seamanship standards.

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    The military boats could have easily avoided the crash, if they wanted to.


    even the big ones:

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    After watching that video of how quick that ship turned around and the waves it created I am reevaluating my canoe approach.

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