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    Default Re: Bitcoin, the war on cash, Clif High, and the NSA's long range plans

    "Building the train tracks of our own control"! Wow! That really puts cryptos in their correct perspective!

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    Default Re: Bitcoin, the war on cash, Clif High, and the NSA's long range plans

    Take note of the progression of from SOMETHING of VALUE to WINDPIES on the COMPUTER which cannot be exchanged for a loaf of bread, no constant value--instead you are part of a puzzling gamble without even a receipt as proof. Are you really so stupid?

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    Default Re: Bitcoin, the war on cash, Clif High, and the NSA's long range plans

    Back in 2017 (when this thread started and Clif High earned a spot in its title) Clif High was making glorious predictions of new all time highs in Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies.

    Since then Bitcoin and friends have mostly collapsed to a half or a third of their December 2017 highs.

    Meanwhile, Clif High has not posted a video on his Youtube channel for over half a year. As in times past, when his attention getting forecasts fail, he disappears, until he can come back with a new topic.

    Well, Clif High is back. He's tauting some new inventions he is working on, such as something that speeds up the process of aging wine and cheese, and he's considering various remedies for Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS), which he says afflicts him. I can't comment on his inventions, as he says too little about them, but his understanding of IBS seemed to me to still be rather mired in the conventional allopathic paradigm. You can find this latest uploaded video of his at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBvYm5Ge-C0 . I won't actually embed the video here, as I find it rather sad.
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    Default Re: Bitcoin, the war on cash, Clif High, and the NSA's long range plans

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    Meanwhile, Clif High has not posted a video on his Youtube channel for over half a year. As in times past, when his attention getting forecasts fail, he disappears, until he can come back with a new topic.
    I like Clif — I can't help it! — and while he and I have had our public differences, there's definitely mutual respect. I'd be delighted to have a long dinner with him somewhere, or even just a cup of coffee and a donut.

    But its a fact that he's been wildly wrong, many times. In 2012, he kindly invited me to Seattle to meet with him, where he was building an unsinkable boat in preparation for the imminent pole shift. I do wonder if he still has that in his back yard.

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    I like Clif High too. He's my kind of smart, old fart geek. Though I did find this latest outing of his to be a bit sad. His mojo was weak. That IBS may be getting him down. -- Paul. ]
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    Default Re: Bitcoin, the war on cash, Clif High, and the NSA's long range plans

    Meanwhile, putting Clif High aside, there is a rather prescient forecast of the real impact of cryptocurrencies in the DarkReading.com article An Industry In Transition: Key Tech Trends In 2018.

    In this article, Shehzad Merchant, Chief Technology Officer, Gigamon (a private cyber-security firm) makes three predictions:
    1. The Pendulum Of Cybersecurity Will Shift From Confidentiality To Integrity And Availability
    2. Rise Of Machine Learning
    3. Blockchain To The Forefront
    I especially like his third prediction, so will quote that here:

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    3. Blockchain To The Forefront

    Any talk about long-term trends would be remiss without a discussion on blockchain. I am referring to the underlying technology behind Bitcoin -- not the cryptocurrency itself. The distributed ledger mechanism of blockchain is very amenable to solving many of the broader problems we face today. While smart contracts seem to be the buzz today around blockchain, the real power lies in harnessing it for fundamental and discontinuous shifts in how we think about trust and the role of centralized trusted authorities. These include governments, banks, clearinghouses, credit verification agencies, etc. Our long-standing reliance on central authorities has created both monopolies and choke points that cybercriminals have been able to target with massive impact.

    For example, take the case of the Equifax breach that revealed a record number of user identities. Rather than having a handful of central authorities that control the data of hundreds of millions of users, we should consider models with each user’s credit history protected as part of a blockchain with access rights controlled by the user as needed, such as for credit verification. Leveraging blockchain in this way would fundamentally change how we think about credit reporting, privacy and the ability to access that information for credit history verification.

    There are other challenges that will arise, of course, and blockchain itself will need to evolve. However, the overarching point is blockchain has the potential to create discontinuities that can change and reshape the very notion of the role of centralized authorities, governments and banks and their involvement in terms of how we conduct business in our day-to-day lives. There is still a long way to go with it, but it's certainly a very interesting trend to keep an eye on.
    ===================

    I added the bold font on what I thought was the key line above.

    To restate the above quote in my own words:

    Many of the "central authorities" each of which manage some one or more resources or activities of our complex civilization will "go on the blockchain", meaning the management of those resources or activities will be taken over by shared, secure, distributed ledgers (using such technologies as blockchains) that are operated, managed and governed by a multiplicity of more or less independent, globally based, organizations that each arise to handle one particular ledger, managing one particular resource or activity.

    Control of the ledger will become a separate activity from control of the resource it tracks.

    This will result in massive globalization, along with massive disenfranchisement of existing corporate or government monopolies that leverage their simultaneous control over both a resource and the ledger tracking that resource in order to extend their monopolistic control over other resources and activities.

    Globalization will not primarily be the extension to a global scale of existing major government and corporate institutions, but rather the growth and extension into many areas of human activity of new distributed groupings and institutions, relying on the distributed communication and data sharing, coordination and analysis capabilities arising from our civilization's rapid advances in electronic, communication, computation and data storage technologies since World War II.

    This will also result in a massive integration of "electronic intelligence" into this global grid of distributed ledgers, as they (bots, etc) can play this game just as well as humans, if not better.
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    Well ... I have one word to say here. Just one word.

    Hashgraph.
    Well ... this didn't take long ... what looks like a "better Hashgraph" has come along, less than six months later.

    The algorithm is improved a bit more, and what's more important from my perspective, this improvement is open source and is not encumbered by patents.

    This new algorithm is called PARSEC (Protocol for Asynchronous, Reliable, Secure and Efficient Consensus), and was announced by the MaidSafe project a week ago.

    For concurrency algorithm geeks such as myself, who are also long standing supporters of open source software and who are more recently enamored of the Rust programming language ... this is all quite interesting.

    I'll spare any reader the details here (since I might be the only member of Avalon seriously interested in them), but here are some links to more details for others, if any, who wish to examine this further:
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    Quote Posted by Paul (here)
    I'll spare any reader the details here (since I might be the only member of Avalon seriously interested in them)...
    [*]Medium.com announcement
    From the Medium link above...

    Quote What does PARSEC do?
    PARSEC solves a well-known problem in decentralised, distributed computer networks: how can individual computers (nodes) in a system reliably communicate truths (in other words, events that have taken place on the network) to each other where a proportion of the nodes are malicious (Byzantine) and looking to disrupt the system. Or to put it another way: how can a group of computers agree on which transactions have correctly taken place and in which order?
    I love it. You know how I’m always saying Plato described rhetoric as the ability to convey truths, which is the same as the Buddha espousing the dharma. These guys are literally teaching computers how to communicate using good rhetoric The computers in these PARSEC networks are going to be the Buddhas in any upcoming AI communities. Gives me a little more hope that we’re not going to be enslaved by malicious robots in the future. The AI’s are going to be just as mixed up, confused and at odds with each other as us humans if these trends continue.

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    Well ... I have one word to say here. Just one word.

    Hashgraph.
    Well ... this didn't take long ... what looks like a "better Hashgraph" has come along, less than six months later.
    On the other hand ... listen to this pitch by Machine Zone's (a game company) CEO Gabriel Leydon to the Hashgraph Launch in March 2018, explaining how he is working on "computing the world", integrating live feeds of sensors, audio, and video, from around the world, in order to make for a fully "Smart" world, fully integrated using A.I., running on top of Hashgraph.

    It's a "technocracy" wet dream, and he sounds all too close to making it happen.



    It's a scary, dystopian, "Matrix" vision, running on the distributed compute power in the hands, on the desktops, and in the "smart" devices of billions of people, world wide.

    ===

    As a long standing student of distributed computing algorithms, I am quite impressed and delighted with Hashgraph, and the similar open source work PARSEC.

    However Hashgraph, and what can be built on it, such as Gabriel Leydon's "Compute the World" vision, is deeply unsettling, and apparently coming soon to a smart phone near you.
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    oh man, on December i brought into hype...brought LTC(7.9192)/BTC(.8)/Ripple(500) total of $6k AUD and now total asset around $2k. Without the money able to correct prediction on prices but once i'm in the game...fear and uncertainty kick in and no greed kick in trying to recover.

    Paul and guys...any tips to bounce back?

    past week i'm moving from yahoo-gmail to alternative mail like protonmail for privacy, i have been thinking alot about security and blockchain popup in my mind. you could have master key/email address login to your email address this will open every thing which be locked in somewhere, you could have some random key for receiving only and if it's hacked then they can't do anything about it.

    we have 2FA but instead of code you have a key for different purpose or level or security...random key for read only, key for read and write..key for sending and/or receiving. key for login only but require key to access data/files programs.
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    oh man, on December i brought into hype...brought LTC(7.9192)/BTC(.8)/Ripple(500) total of $6k AUD and now total asset around $2k. Without the money able to correct prediction on prices but once i'm in the game...fear and uncertainty kick in and no greed kick in trying to recover.

    Paul and guys...any tips to bounce back?
    My secret - I got in back in November, instead of December. It's a lot easier to go from 1 to 10 to 2, than to go from 10 to 2 .

    The key for me remains ... what do I reasonably expect the future to bring, with what degree of uncertainty and variability, and am I comfortable with the risk/reward range that I expect?

    But still being up by a factor of 2 helps.

    Also, as I learned from the dot.com boom in Silicon Valley in the 1990's, it's a good idea to "skim the cream off the top" whenever it rises surprisingly fast. So I've already skimmed off my initial input of 1 (whatever amount of money), which further helps me sleep comfortably at night.

    It's a little bit like riding a bicycle ... one can tolerate large errors if riding in an open parking lot at slow speed ... no biggie if one falls over. But if one were riding on some mountain ledge that only a goat would feel comfortable on, then the tolerable margin of error is much less. One's finances are like that too. One shouldn't be playing with high volatility "investments" if one's finances are very close to the edge of disaster, and the failure of that "investment" could be the straw that broke the camel's back.
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    Quote Posted by Paul (here)
    For concurrency algorithm geeks such as myself, who are also long standing supporters of open source software and who are more recently enamored of the Rust programming language ... this is all quite interesting.

    I'll spare any reader the details here (since I might be the only member of Avalon seriously interested in them), but here are some links to more details for others, if any, who wish to examine this further:
    I'm interested in them to the extent that I wonder how secure they really are, and what potential vulnerabilities they might have moving forward, but the programming and math go way over my head so ultimately I just have to take someone else's word for it. I've read that NIST has already ordered all of their encryption up several notches because of what they see coming with quantum computing, and I've also read that Bitcoin's encryption will be vulnerable to quantum computers.

    I wonder what other possible vulnerabilities there can be to these systems, because if people start putting so much trust into these networks, it's going to be more than a small annoyance if the system becomes compromised. Worst case scenario, it could lead us down a path to the Martix.

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    I've read that NIST has already ordered all of their encryption up several notches because of what they see coming with quantum computing
    Not all their encryption, rather just their public key crypto. Both the prime number factoring (RSA) and elliptic public key crypto will potentially be vulnerable to future quantum computers. Other crypto, such as hash (message digest) crypto routines are not, so far as I am aware, vulnerable to quantum computing. Also, not "ordering" up, but rather soliciting proposals for public key crypto algorithms that, unlike prime number and elliptic, are not vulnerable to quantum computing. The crypto-math geeks have some promising algorithms under development.

    Whether or not, or to what extent, concurrency algorithms are vulnerable is a rather separate issue, mostly dependent on whether or not an adversary can gain a third or a half control of the distributed networks nodes, and/or of the communication links connecting them.
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    A contributor to Miles Mathis' work, Booby Sherman, has provided this critique of Bitcoin: bitfraud.pdf.

    Summary: It's a major Jewish, Intelligence, Bankster fraud, intended to provide a new mechanism for tracking, controlling, and extracting our wealth.
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    oh man, on December i brought into hype...brought LTC(7.9192)/BTC(.8)/Ripple(500) total of $6k AUD and now total asset around $2k. Without the money able to correct prediction on prices but once i'm in the game...fear and uncertainty kick in and no greed kick in trying to recover.

    Paul and guys...any tips to bounce back?

    past week i'm moving from yahoo-gmail to alternative mail like protonmail for privacy, i have been thinking alot about security and blockchain popup in my mind. you could have master key/email address login to your email address this will open every thing which be locked in somewhere, you could have some random key for receiving only and if it's hacked then they can't do anything about it.

    we have 2FA but instead of code you have a key for different purpose or level or security...random key for read only, key for read and write..key for sending and/or receiving. key for login only but require key to access data/files programs.
    My Personal advice Apokalyse,

    I use to currency and precious metal trade back in 2008-12 when i discovered things about the financial system, the Federal Reserve, Central Banking etc. And, things lead to places like Bill and Kerry's Project Camelot stuff. Clif Also. I use to stay up 40hrs between trades to watch my charts devouring everything i could find while keeping an eye on the trades. I made amazing money at times and lost crazy amounts to. Nothing compares to being something called a 'Paper Trader' vs actually having real equity in the game. Another metaphor could be someone willing to go out and be public vs people not stepping up on the sidelines being critics. It is that sort of energy. While you might be feeling the financial pain the wisdom via the experience you will learn about your justification for entering the trade. Doing a hindsight on what motivated you to enter the market (fear of missing out, actually being part of the heard vs what you think about yourself, greed, unseen potentials etc). You can really do a very powerful assessment. I actually used trading to remove my emotional drive from information and trained my gut. It definitely applies to discernment of information. What i learnt in trading was to identify the potential in things (trades then, information, teachers etc) that do not require anything external to validate. Such as applying the variables i used for identifying traded before the crowd to have success. This came from a great number of failures and hesitations. That was a huge teaching for me to stepping into my own personal leadership. So, which yes it sounds like a very hard lesson your are in. The wisdom from the courage to act you will gain going forth will be massively compounded if you really to a tough review of those motivational aspects and learn them with application. Many would have been on the sidelines being critics. Likely missing the pain but also missing the wisdom from experience. You will find your instincts will go off the charts. A big key is to leave everything of what happened at the door of every choice too. No baggage of fear of failure. Having the courage to fail vs fear of trying due to not wanting to fail is a massive difference. it will play out this way over time.

    I have been across Clif myself for many years. I really bit the hook in early 2013 around March 20th about some massive negative event. I think it was called the Coastal Event at the time. I was around the guy i operate with quite a bit (Andrew Bartzis offered for your discernment and transparency) and he was saying nothing is going to happen. But i was totally invested in the disaster narrative. It was a powerful teacher to me then. Being immersed in that fear state. The experience is applicable to the trade metaphor is explained above. Having the experience of that time made me a bit immune to such calls now. It was a important lesson for me. I am not out to blame Clif or anything. I know that time now was a massive audit occurring on Earth that he was picking up. It was just an interpretation thing.

    I also have really appreciated Clif's mastery of linguistics. That was vital to me aside from his predictions. The depth of his algorithm and weighting of words was really outstanding to me.

    What i personally accept as my truth about money. In part learnt from being immersed in the energy of the money system itself. Whether there is a way to break free from the system in place at present. Trying to do that is the trap. I don't think its Clif's fault things have gone the way they have. IMHO it was a setup for failure just waiting for huge numbers to bite the hook to get really entangled in the legal aspects of their regions. Milk people via fear etc. These are my own understandings of how intricate the system is here. Money is related to Oil. The Petrol Dollar. Which is the world standard. The reason for this is that oil is Earth's cranialsacral fluid. Using oil is like locking down the consciousness of the planet. Doing a spinal tap. Then war energy is imprinted over it and oil is burnt into the crystal roads all over the globe into massive dream catchers called cities. All imprinting a false grid we give consent to and imprinting all the death and destruction from War in the Middle East region aiding to the energy imprint. This system is staggering in its strength. Despite all the critics of it out there. Nothing will change the fundamentals of this as it is about consciousness control. Always. Take it as my out there perceptions. But, it goes way beyond the 3D aspects. If you lack the will to add that unseen aspect to your perception equation going forth you won't make much sense of our reality going forth. Money is also a storage device for human life force with is harvested. Thus all the debt, buildings, people with contracts to be in hierarchical power. We aren't going to defeat this by trying to escape it. We HAVE to be like a very clean energy employ it WITHIN it....Earth in 2013 birthed a virus in the money system out of Crete which stored all the sex slave money from oligarchs. Out of all that abuse she acted. If you are a match to abundance operating in service to Earth that is the greatest potential.

    So, imho focus in your emotional mastery, healing, being authentic...The best you can be always. Accept yourself as a potential shaman too....that is likely your next potential. Many of you are already but just haven't accepted it yet.

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    Default Re: Bitcoin, the war on cash, Clif High, and the NSA's long range plans

    Quote Posted by Hervé (here)
    How Tavistock got a stranglehold on the US and using it as their play/test ground:

    DIPLOMACY BY DECEPTION

    by Dr. J Coleman (1993)
    Reese discovered that with social engineering comes the greater need for information that can be rapidly collected and correlated.

    Quote Posted by Paul (here)
    Meanwhile, the global surveillance and control grid, the "Internet of Things" and of 5G antennae, in the sky and on the ground, will deeply integrate human civilization into a Brave New World.
    I sense a strong connection, between the above quoted snippets fromThe global surveillance network will build upon both the Internet of Things and upon the 5G network.

    It will also build upon the next generation "Bitcoin" cryptocurrency networks that I've been following in other posts, such as in this Bitcoin, the war on cash, Clif High, and the NSA's long range plans thread.

    It will also build upon the massively parallel computer centers, such as at NSA's Utah Data Center, to which I might have contributed, unknowingly, in a small way, with my "big iron" contributions to the Linux kernel. The extensive satellite communications and surveillance grid, that is part of the Secret Space Program that Catherine Austin Fitts and others speak of, is another vital component of this global infrastructure.

    This technology will provide the global social engineering project with the pervasive surveillance and control grid, of unparalleled capacity and capability, for which our overlords lust.
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    Default Re: Bitcoin, the war on cash, Clif High, and the NSA's long range plans

    Meanwhile in socialist Venezuela, people are going back to bartering items in order to have some sort of economy to survive.

    At least we know that even if all the computer networks crash our digital savings, we can still trade a little gasoline out of a vehicle to the neighbors for some candles to light the house at night.

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    Thought for the day:
    Gold is no longer money. It hasn't been money for nearly a century. It's one form of collateral for debt-money.

    The "new" monetary system, which will replace the US Petro-Narco-xGold Reserve Dollar debt-money system, will also be a debt-money system.

    (By "xGold" I mean that once upon a time, the US Dollar had "gold backing", but that gold is long gone, hence the "x". Fort Knox is practically empty now.)

    The gold bugs who tell us we are returning to using gold and silver as money are wrong, very wrong.

    "Gold backing" for a currency means that the issuer of the currency (nation, region, bank, ...) has gold on hand, and that it can and will exchange their currency for that gold. This makes their gold a general form of collateral backing the debts denominated in that currency. For example, the gold in Fort Knox used to back the US Treasury bond debt paper ... as collateral for that debt. That gold backing of the US Dollar ended in the early 1970's, and the gold that might have "backed it" was gone by the 1990's ... stolen by then US President Bill Clinton and his Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin.

    When a nation has gold that it will exchange for its currency, then all its debts that are denominated in that currency essentially have gold collateral backing. The nation cannot just print more of its currency to pay off its debt, as that extra currency can be traded for gold, which has limited supply.

    Over the last half century in particular, the US Dollar has replaced gold in this role. Most of the major debt of other nations is denominated in US Dollars. This forces nations to somehow earn enough US Dollars to make their debt payments. Countries such as Venezuela and Argentina and many others that failed to do so have suffered dreadful collapses. The World Bank and the IMF, as agents of the Banksters of Babylon and Merchants of Venice have played major roles in these pump and dump schemes, enabling major corporations to extract the wealth of nations for "pennies on the dollar" and enabling the world's banksters to control the world's monetary system.

    An important transition in the US Dollar system will occur as the current overly indebted Federal Reserve and US Treasury system acknowledges that it is essentially defaulting on the excessive debt it has issued. That debt is in various forms, including US Treasury bills, notes and bonds, social welfare (such as promised Social Security and Medicare payments), corporate debt (such as used in stock buy back programs) and personal debt (such as student loans and car loans). That debt is failing, so is being transformed into calls on the future productivity and resources of the U.S., into a reduction in the value of the US Dollar and US Treasury debt in world markets, and into a decline in the real value of US Federally promised social benefits. Thus will this US Dollar debt default be disguised.

    We will transition from a debt-money system into another debt-money system, just with dramatic changes in what are the most valued forms of collateral and in what currency units the debt obligations are denominated in.

    Gold will play a somewhat temporary, but important role, in marking the changing power base of the global monetary system, away from Washington and New York, toward wealthy trading nations such as China and resource rich nations such as in Asia and Africa. China and Russia will demonstrate that they can provide gold as collateral for their currencies. However China and Russia will tend go hold tightly to the gold they have accumulated, so their currencies will not be fully and freely "backed" by gold. The gold that they stash has become a symbol of power, traded behind closed doors between the elite, to demark the key players in the world's monetary hierarchy.

    More importantly, Russia and China and other nations along the Belt Road Initiative are replacing "bad debt" denominated in US Dollars with "good debt". By "good debt" I mean debt for projects that has a reasonable chance of returning sufficient profits to enable the debt to be paid off.

    We all know the difference between "good" and "bad" debt in our personal lives. Borrowing a small amount to gain skills, tools or credentials that will enable a substantial gain in one's income is "good" debt. Borrowing money for a cruise in the Mediterranean or Caribbean, that you could not otherwise afford, is "bad" debt.

    As explained in my Banksters of Babylon, Merchants of Venice, and Elders of Zion thread, international trade and debt-money will continue to reign supreme. The King Dollar of Debt Money is dying. Long live the King of Debt Money.
    We are not returning to a gold money system. We are on, and will remain on, a debt-money system.
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