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    Quote Posted by snoop4truth (here)
    Bill,

    Thanks for the tip on Sean David Morton and the "Income Tax is Voluntary" article.

    I'll look into them.

    Sounds like they are right up my alley. LOL!

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    Hope this makes sense to you and I will let Bill know that you thanked him for the links.

    Best wishes,

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    Well it seems that you're quite passionate about this "Sovereign Citizens" movement and the people within it perpetuating hoaxes on the gullible.

    My only awareness is that in Canada "administrative statues" like a drivers license and "private" roads are a bit murky and we do often flip the "common law" switch on occasion to decide cases.
    Judges and Justices in Canada do not "have" to have been lawyers. It certainly helps when being vetted for the political appointment though.
    A soverign Canadian is in jail for tax evasion...

    The only "sovereignty" in Canada would lay in the Territories of Unceeded Aboriginal lands or the Queen. But by the early 70's ANYONE born in Canada is a subject of the Queen and a Citizen. Whether you like it or not.

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    COMMENT 22: THE HOAXES OF DEBORAH TAVARES, SIX OF WHICH INVOLVE ROD CLASS:

    CONCLUSION: This work is about documents and documents only. Nothing more. Our investigation simply reveals that the documents that Deborah Tavares uses to support her conclusions do not actually support her conclusions. Nothing more. This is important because these very documents are the sole foundation for all of Deborah Tavares' conclusions. What that says about Deborah Tavares' conclusions without any documents to support them, we do not know. We take no position on those conclusions one way or the other. That is not the point of our investigation. Finally, in reading the work below, look for a pattern of behavior (forgery, alteration and mischaracterization) and ask yourself what that pattern reveals about Deborah Tavares' true nature, character and honestly as a human being. .

    1. "The NASA War Document Hoax". The document is REAL, but it has been "modified" to fit the hoax. It now has a FAKE and misleading TITLE and COVER. But, the hoax is NOT the document anyway. Instead, the hoax is Deborah Tavares' OWN fraudulent claims that THE DOCUMENT ALONE CONSTITUTES "PROOF" that NASA is already killing us all with diabolical weapons in furtherance of the planned extinction of mankind. But, her claims about this document are not so. The document is actually a power point presentation that a chief NASA scientist, Dennis Bushnell, created and used at a 2001 national convention of American DEFENSE contractors to urge them to develop countermeasures (defenses) AGAINST the diabolical weapons described therein. That means that the diabolical weapons described in the "NASA War Document" were NOT weapons that NASA was using AGAINST the American people. They were weapons that NASA was urging American DEFENSE contractors to develop countermeasure (defenses) AGAINST. SO, THIS PARTICULAR DOCUMENT ACTUALLY PROVIDES NO SUPPORT FOR THE CLAIMS OF DEBORAH TAVARES.

    2. "The Silent Weapons For Quiet Wars Hoax". The document is REAL, but it is only POLITICAL FICTION. It is actually a literary "false flag" which the civilian author made to look like a "leaked" government document to make it look like the U.S. government was secretly waging "quiet wars" against its own civilian population using "silent weapons". It has also been "modified" to fit the hoax. It now has a FAKE, recently-added PREFACE at the beginning which fraudulently indicates that it is the work of "The Bilderbergs". It also now has several FAKE, recently-added paragraphs in its interior to fit that new PREFACE and which identify the global elite by name (neither of which was in the original). But, the REAL hoax is NOT the document anyway. Instead, the REAL hoax is Deborah Tavares' OWN fraudulent claims that THE DOCUMENT ALONE CONSTITUTES "PROOF" that "The Bilderbergs" adopted a plan in 1954 to kill us all with diabolical "silent weapons" in "quiet wars" in furtherance of the planned extinction of mankind. But, her claims about this document are not so. Lyle Hartford Van Dyke wrote this tiny 44 page booklet in 1979. It is a DISGUISED COMPLAINT about the U.S. government's alleged betrayal of U.S. soldiers by allegedly allowing them to be killed at Pearl Harbor in order to draw us into World War II. This tiny booklet has NOTHING to do with the Bilderbergs. Van Dyke openly admits to having incorporated sections of REAL (and frightening) economic, psychological and scientific TECHNICAL studies into his work (all of which were written by REAL experts in those particular fields) to make his work look more realistic. SO, THIS PARTICULAR DOCUMENT ACTUALLY PROVIDES NO SUPPORT FOR THE CLAIMS OF DEBORAH TAVARES.

    3. "The Report From Iron Mountain Hoax". The document is REAL, but it is only POLITICAL SATIRE. It is actually a literary "false flag" which the civilian author made to look like a "leaked" government "report" to make it look like the U.S. government had conducted a study and determined that it had no choice but to wage continuous, never-ending, perpetual wars (against FAKE, IMAGINARY, NON-EXISTENT enemies, if necessary) and that otherwise, the U.S. economy and the U.S. government might actually collapse. But, the REAL hoax is not the document anyway. Instead, the REAL hoax is Deborah Tavares' OWN fraudulent claims that THE DOCUMENT ALONE CONSTITUTES "PROOF" that ALL ENVIRONMENTAL CATASTROPHES (including climate change, drought, fires, etc.) ARE "ENGINEERED" by the U.S. government and used as "WEAPONS" to kill us all in furtherance of the planned extinction of mankind (something not in the book). But, her claims about this document are not so. Leonard C. Lewin wrote this book in 1967. It is a DISGUISED COMPLAINT WHICH OPENLY MOCKS U.S. policy of engaging in perpetual wars to prop up the U.S. economy. The premise of the book is that THE U.S. IS SO DEPENDENT ON MILITARY SPENDING that "IF PEACE BROKE OUT", we will be forced to create FAKE enemies (like "FAKE ALIEN LIFE FORMS" and ENVIRONMENTAL CATASTROPHES, like pollution) to "justify" our perpetual wars to prop up the U.S. economy. The author DID NOT intend for the reader of his book to believe that the U.S. government was ACTUALLY CREATING "FAKE ALIEN LIFE FORMS" or ACTUALLY CREATING "ENGINEERED" ENVIRONMENTAL CATASTROPHES, like pollution. Instead, the author merely used those ABSURD examples TO MAKE A MOCKERY of the lengths that U.S. policy makers would go to in order to create "FAKE ENEMIES" to justify "FAKE WARS" against those "FAKE ENEMIES" to prop up the U.S. economy. Lewin incorporated sections of REAL (and frightening) economic, psychological and scientific TECHNICAL studies into his work (all of which were written by REAL experts in those particular fields) to make his work look more realistic. SO, THIS PARTICULAR DOCUMENT ACTUALLY PROVIDES NO SUPPORT FOR THE CLAIMS OF DEBORAH TAVARES.

    4. "The Agenda 21 Hoax". Deborah Tavares supports this hoax with TWO DOCUMENTS, neither of which actually support her claims. First, the United Nations "Agenda 21" document itself is REAL. So, the hoax is not that particular document. Second, the so-called "Agenda 21 Map" is FAKE and had nothing to do with "Agenda 21" in the first place. The REAL hoax is Deborah Tavares' OWN fraudulent claims that the AGENDA 21 DOCUMENT ALONE CONSTITUTES "PROOF" that Agenda 21 is expanding the wilderness into areas already occupied by humans so as to drive us out of our rural and suburban homes and into tightly-packed, over-populated "Kill Cities" in furtherance of the panned extinction of mankind. But, none of her claims about this document are so. Agenda 21 was merely an environmental suggestion that the United Nations made to all its member nations in 1992. Member nations were permitted, BUT NOT REQUIRED to adopt Agenda 21 for themselves. THE UNITED STATES CHOSE TO REJECT IT. Under the United States Constitution, both the president and the senate must consent to a proposed international treaty or convention before it becomes law in the United States. While the president ceremonially signed the Agenda 21 document, THE SENATE WITHHELD ITS CONSENT TO AGENDA 21. As a result, THE UNITED STATES REJECTED AGENDA 21 ALMOST 30 YEARS AGO. That means that Agenda 21 NEVER applied in the United States and does not apply in the United States now. So, whatever Agenda 21 "would have done" IF THE UNITED STATE HAD NOT REJECTED IT is completely irrelevant. The United States DID REJECT IT. Further, there is NOTHING anywhere in the entire Agenda 21 document itself which states, suggests or implies that it would have expanded the wilderness into areas already occupied by humans so as to drive us out of our rural and suburban homes and into tightly-packed, over-populated "Kill Cities" in furtherance of the planned extinction of mankind. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!

    The hoax is also Deborah Tavares' OWN fraudulent claims that THE SO-CALLED "AGENDA 21 MAP" ALONE CONSTITUTES "PROOF" of land use in the United States under Agenda 21 and that the THE SO-CALLED "AGENDA 21 MAP" ALONE CONSTITUTES "PROOF" that Agenda 21 is expanding the wilderness into areas already occupied by humans so as to drive us out of our rural and suburban homes and into tightly-packed, over-populated "Kill Cities" in furtherance of the panned extinction of mankind. But, none of her claims about this document are so. The so-called "Agenda 21 Map" is entirely FAKE and had nothing to do with Agenda 21 in the first place. Instead, the so-called "Agenda 21 Map" was merely a WILDLY-EXAGGERATED piece of PROPAGANDA created by Michael Coffman to generate U. S. Senate opposition to "The U.N. Treaty On Bio-Diversity" (something entirely different from Agenda 21). This is why this FAKE map only depicts the United States, rather than all of the member nations of the United Nations. As fate would have it, the U.S. Senate ALSO REJECTED The U.N. Treaty On Bio-Diversity. So, neither the Agenda 21 document nor The U.N. Treaty On Bio-Diversity (which the so-called "Agenda 21 Map" purported to illustrate) ever applied in the United States. The United States REJECTED BOTH OF THEM! The mere fact that some local elected governments have since passed some local regulations to protect some of the remaining environment has NOTHING to do with Agenda 21! These local elected governments merely concluded (entirely on their own) that some protection of the remaining natural environmental was warranted. SO, NEITHER OF THESE TWO DOCUMENTS PROVIDE ANY SUPPORT FOR THE CLAIMS OF DEBORAH TAVARES.

    5. "The FORGED PG&E Email Hoax". THESE EMAILS ARE FORGERIES AND ALL THE ALLEGATIONS CONTAINED IN THESE FORGERIES ARE VERIFIABLY FALSE. PG&E is a California electrical utility company which collects and generates electricity in a variety of ways. But, PG&E's ground-based solar panels can only collect energy from the Sun during daylight hours in good weather. So, in 2009, PG&E announced that in the future, solar panels on satellites in space might collect energy from the Sun 24 hours a day, then beam it to Earth in the form of lasers or radio frequencies (micro waves) and then convert it to electricity here on Earth for its customers. When the recent fires burned northern California, Deborah Tavares wanted to blame PG&E and this technology for starting those fires. But, all the scientific literature indicated that this technology did not yet exist. SO, TO REBUT THOSE SCIENTIFIC FACTS, Deborah Tavares herself FORGED a series of FAKE emails (some purportedly between the CPUC and PG&E) indicating that this technology already existed, that it was already in use and that it could be used to start such fires, among other things. Specifically, Deborah Tavares took the headings of "REAL" CPUC and "REAL" PG&E emails and AND SHE REPLACED THE TEXT OF THOSE EMAILS WITH TEXT THAT SHE WROTE HERSELF TO FIT THE HOAX! THIS IS WHY THE FONT-TYPE, FONT-SIZE AND BOLDNESS OF THE TEXT IN THE HEADINGS OF THOSE EMAILS ARE ENTIRELY DIFFERENT FROM THE FONT-TYPE, FONT-SIZE AND BOLDNESS OF THE BODIES OF THOSE EMAILS. LOOK AT THESE FORGERIES FOR YOURSELF! IT IS PERFECTLY OBVIOUS THAT THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT DEBORAH TAVARES DID! Note that these FORGED emails are actually literary "false flags" which Deborah Tavares made to look like a pointless conversation between PG&E and the CPUC wherein both gratuitously incriminate PG&E for having started the recent fires in California using the technology described above. So, Deborah Tavares, herself, actually created the very FORGERIES which she fraudulently claims CONSTITUTE "PROOF" that PG&E used this technology (described above) to start the recent fires in California to kill us all in furtherance of the planned extinction of mankind. SO, THESE PARTICULAR FORGED DOCUMENTS ACTUALLY PROVIDE NO SUPPORT FOR THE CLAIMS OF DEBORAH TAVARES. SEE ACTUAL PROOF IN POST #6 BELOW.

    6. "The Genocide Agreement Hoax". The document is REAL. So, the hoax is NOT the document itself. The "Genocide Agreement" is actually the nickname of a proposed 1940's United Nations agreement BANNING GENOCIDE among signatory nations. The U.N. proposed the "Genocide Agreement" to all its member nations in direct response to the Holocaust. It proposed to BAN "GENOCIDE" and certain other harmful acts against identifiable groups of people, like racial and religious minorities. In 1988, the United States Senate approved the "Genocide Agreement" and President Reagan signed it into law. So, the hoax is not the document itself. Instead, the FIRST hoax is Deborah Tavares' OWN fraudulent claims that the Genocide Agreement actually "LEGALIZES GENOCIDE" of entire populations. But, this is not so. The Genocide Agreement actually BANNED GENOCIDE of entire populations. The SECOND hoax is also Deborah Tavares' OWN (ENTIRELY INCONSISTENT AND CONTRADICTORY) claims that the "Genocide Agreement" DOES ACTUALLY BAN GENOCIDE, but that it ONLY BANS "NATIONS" FROM COMMITTING ACTS OF GENOCIDE and that THE UNITED STATES IS "NOT A NATION", BECAUSE "IT IS A CORPORATION" (which is not governed by the agreement or the ban) which permits the United States to COMMIT GENOCIDE of entire populations on a "Day-by-Day" basis, which is why "WE ARE BEING EXTERMINATED". But, the truth is that the United States is not really a "corporation" and the Genocide Agreement actually bans genocide in the United States and actually subjects those who commit genocide to criminal prosecution. Finally, the THIRD hoax is also Deborah Tavares' OWN (ENTIRELY INCONSISTENT and CONTRADICTORY) claims that the genocide agreement DOES APPLY IN THE UNITED STATES and that it "INVADES DOMESTIC LAWS" and "ALLOWS FOREIGNERS TO 'OVER-RIDE' U.S. laws". (Note that if the Genocide Agreement really "DID NOT APPLY" to the United States because it is a "CORPORATION", it would be impossible for the Genocide Agreement TO SIMULTANEOUSLY APPLY in the United States so as to "invade" or "over-ride" any law in the United States.). Regardless, the truth is that the Genocide Agreement actually applies in the United States, but only "over-rides" U.S. law as to the specific acts banned by the agreement. Nothing more. SO, THIS PARTICULAR DOCUMENT ACTUALLY PROVIDES NO SUPPORT FOR THE CLAIMS OF DEBORAH TAVARES.

    7. "The Rothschilds Are Restructuring North America Hoax". In this hoax, Deborah Tavares fraudulently claims that an October, 30th 2017 press release stated that the Rothschilds were "restructuring North America" itself (as in "taking it over" and "changing it"). But, the subject press release DOES NOT say this. Instead, it merely says that a single Rothschild company was restructuring "IN" (as in "inside") North America. A full reading of the subject press release indicates that the term, "RESTRUCTURING'' as used in the press release, refers to this Rothschild company RESTRUCTURING DEBT (as in "re-financing" in North America), NOT RESTRUCTURING ALL OF NORTH AMERICA ITSELF! The purpose of this hoax was to fraudulently manufacture a connection between the "Rothschilds" and the Agenda 21 Hoax, to make Americans think that the "Rothschilds" are "restructuring" all of North America under the Agenda 21 model of "sustainable development" which Deborah Tavares fraudulently claims will drive us out of our rural and suburban homes and into tightly-packed, over-populated "Kill Cities" in furtherance of the planned extinction of mankind. But, none of this is so. THAT MEANS THIS PARTICULAR DOCUMENT ACTUALLY PROVIDES NO SUPPORT FOR THE CLAIMS OF DEBORAH TAVARES. SEE ACTUAL PROOF IN POST #18 BELOW.

    8. "The Rothschilds Own Or Control All Of The World's Utility Companies Hoax". In this hoax, Deborah Tavares fraudulently claims that she obtained a curriculum vitae (effectively a resume' for "expert witnesses") attached to the sworn testimony of a member of the Rothschild family wherein he stated or implied that "he OWNED or CONTROLLED hundreds of utility companies". But, the subject curriculum vitae DOES NOT say this. Instead, it merely says that a "James A. Rothschild" is a financial consultant AND AN "EXPERT WITNESS" who has TESTIFIED in dozens and dozens of court cases in which utility companies were parties (a plaintiff or a defendant). Nothing more. In support of this same hoax, Deborah Tavares also fraudulently claims that she recently attended a PG&E stock holder's meeting (with a "proxy" of a share holder) wherein the PG&E Board Of Directors were allegedly seated in the front row of the audience and individually introduced to the stockholders. She fraudulently claims that a person named "Rothschild" was introduced to the stockholders as a PG&E "Board Member" (as if that would make him the "OWNER" of PG&E). But, this claim is not so NO PG&E BOARD MEMBER HAS THE NAME, "ROTHSCHILD". The purpose of this hoax was to fraudulently manufacture a connection between the "Rothschilds" and the Agenda 21 Hoax, to make Americans think that the Rothschilds are using "THEIR" utility company (satellite) technologies as "weapons" to "target" us all and to drive us out of our rural and suburban homes and into tightly-packed, over-populated "Kill Cities" in furtherance of the planned extinction of mankind. But, none of this is so. THAT MEANS NEITHER THIS PARTICULAR DOCUMENT NOR THIS FAKE ACCOUNT OF A STOCKHOLDER'S MEETING PROVIDE ANY SUPPORT FOR THE CLAIMS OF DEBORAH TAVARES.

    9. "The London Accounting Firms Will Bankrupt All Our Cities Hoax". In this hoax, Deborah Tavares claims that she read a December 26th, 2017 article in the "Press Democrat", a local Santa Rosa, California newspaper, which allegedly stated that Ernst & Young (a London-based accounting firm) will bankrupt all of our cities. She also claims that the article stated that Ernst & Young had “placed a value on the air that we breathe... the fresh water that we drink [and] on every tree in our forests". She claims that this "value" is actually a "price" that we will have to pay the global elite for our air, water, trees and other natural resources. But, the subject article DOES NOT say this. Instead, the subject article merely says that the city of Santa Rosa had hired Ernst & Young to determine the amount of fire damage the city had suffered in the recent California fires and to represent the city IN OBTAINING REIMBURSEMENT of that amount from FEMA. In order to do its job, Ernst & Young would necessarily have to place a "value" on city-owned property destroyed in the fires (ex: buildings, roads, bridges and infrastructure). But, nothing in the article suggests that Ernst & Young would place a value on our air, water, trees or other natural resources. The article specifically states that FEMA WILL REIMBURSE THE CITY OF SANTA ROSA FOR THE COSTS OF ERNST & YOUNG'S ACCOUNTING SERVICES. In fact, federal law actually REQUIRES that FEMA reimburse such cities for the accounting costs they incur in seeking and in obtaining reimbursement from FEMA. Thus, NO CITY IS GOING BANKRUPT as a result of hiring Ernst & Young to determine the amount of fire damage it had suffered in the recent California fires or to represent the city IN OBTAINING REIMBURSEMENT of that amount from FEMA! The purpose of this hoax was to make Americans think that the global elite will bankrupt all of our cities, that we will have to pay the global elite to breathe our air and to drink our water and to otherwise incite hatred and violence against innocent Americans. SO, THIS PARTICULAR DOCUMENT ACTUALLY PROVIDES NO SUPPORT FOR THE CLAIMS OF DEBORAH TAVARES.

    10. "The Judge DALE Hoax". ALL OF THE "JUDGE DALE" BOOKS ARE FORGERIES. Further, EVERY SINGLE CLAIM IN THE JUDGE "DALE" FORGERIES ABOUT THE LAW AND THE LEGAL SYSTEM IS ALSO VERIFIABLY FALSE. The "Judge DALE forgeries" are actually literary "false flags" which Deborah Tavares and her partners made to look like books written by a knowledgeable, former "legal insider" wherein he "confesses" that all judges, all lawyers, all laws and the entire legal system are illegal, invalid, illegitimate, corrupt and diabolical. But, this is not so. Deborah Tavares, Al Whitney (real name "Anita Laurin") and amateur legal theorist, Rodney "DALE" Class (who has lost 77 cases in a row) wrote every single word of these FORGERIES (including "The Great American Adventure: Secrets Of America" and "The Matrix And The US Constitution"). But, they fraudulently told the American people these FORGERIES were written by a "retired federal judge" named "Judge DALE" (which uses Rodney "DALE" Class' middle name, "DALE", as an inside joke on the American people). DEBORAH TAVARES HAS ALREADY ADMITTED THIS TO US! The purpose of this hoax was to make Americans think that their elected government and their elected justice system is completely illegal, illegitimate, invalid, corrupt & diabolical and to otherwise incite hatred and violence against innocent Americans. SO, THESE PARTICULAR FORGERIES ACTUALLY PROVIDE NO SUPPORT FOR THE CLAIMS OF DEBORAH TAVARES.

    11. "The Court Registry Investment System Hoax". This document is actually a literary "false flag" which Deborah Tavares and her partners made to look like a government document to make it look like all of the money that the courts collect in fines and penalties is forwarded to the Federal Reserve to keep. But this is not so.THIS DOCUMENT IS A FORGERY! Deborah Tavares and her partners (including Al Whitney, Jeanette Triplett and Rod Class) assembled this FAKE government document from parts of REAL government documents and then ALTERED and CHANGED the WORDS to make it fit the hoax. BUT, THEY MADE SOME STUPID MISTAKES (EXPLAINED IN POST #53) WHICH ACTUALLY PROVE THAT THIS DOCUMENT WAS ASSEMBLED FROM PARTS OF OTHER DOCUMENTS. The purpose of this hoax was to make Americans think that the courts are merely collection agents for the Federal Reserve (something akin to the I.R.S.), to make Americans think that their elected justice system is completely illegal, illegitimate, invalid, corrupt & diabolical and to otherwise incite hatred and violence against innocent Americans. SO, THIS PARTICULAR FORGED DOCUMENT ACTUALLY PROVIDES NO SUPPORT FOR THE CLAIMS OF DEBORAH TAVARES. SEE ACTUAL PROOF IN POST #53 BELOW.

    12. "The All Governments And Government Agencies Are Private, For-Profit Corporations Hoax". This hoax involves several MISCHARACTERIZED "CORPORATE CHARTERS" and several FAKE VIDEOS. In this hoax, Deborah Tavares and Al Whitney (real name "Anita Laurin") fraudulently claim that all governments and government agencies are actually private, for-profit corporations "posing" as governments and government agencies which "profit" by taxing, burdening and abusing the American people. To support this fraudulent claim, Deborah Tavares and Al Whitney cite the "CORPORATE CHARTERS" of several ORDINARY, PRIVATE, FOR-PROFIT CORPORATIONS which happen to have names that SOUND SIMILAR to the names of governments and government agencies (like "Federal Express" for example). But, contrary to their claims, NONE of the "CORPORATE CHARTERS" of the ORDINARY, PRIVATE, FOR-PROFIT CORPORATIONS that they cite in support of this hoax really reflect governments or government agencies. Not one! They also fraudulently CHANGED THE REAL NAME on the "CORPORATE CHARTER" of one such ORDINARY, PRIVATE, FOR-PROFIT CORPORATION TO A FAKE NAME to make it fit the hoax (from "Internal Revenue Tax And Audit Service, Inc.", a private, for-profit corporation, to "Internal Revenue Service", a government agency). This hoax was designed to make Americans think that all their elected governments and appointed agencies are completely illegal, invalid, illegitimate, corrupt & diabolical and to otherwise incite hatred and violence against innocent Americans. SO, THESE "CORPORATE CHARTERS" ACTUALLY PROVIDE NO SUPPORT FOR THE CLAIMS OF DEBORAH TAVARES.

    13. "The BOMBSHELL: Rod Class Has Obtained His Forth Administrative Ruling That All Government Agencies Are 'Private Entities' Hoax". This hoax involves A MISCHARACTERIZED COURT RULING, several FAKE press releases (co-authored by Deborah Tavares) and several FAKE videos. Note that this hoax was actually created in support of the hoax above to the effect that all governments and government agencies are private, for-profit corporations (a Deborah Tavares hoax). The purpose of this hoax was to make Americans think that our state and local government agencies (including the DMV and local police departments) are completely illegal, invalid, illegitimate, corrupt & diabolical and to otherwise incite hatred and violence against innocent Americans. SO, NEITHER THIS MISCHARACTERIZED COURT RULING NOR THESE FAKE PRESS RELEASES OR THESE FAKE VIDEOS PROVIDE ANY SUPPORT FOR THE CLAIMS OF DEBORAH TAVARES.

    14. "The... Property Into Other Peoples' Names Hoax". This hoax involves A NON-EXISTENT WARNING, several FAKE press releases and false videos. In this hoax, Rod Class and his partners (including Deborah Tavares) fraudulently claim that "a North Carolina judge has warned all [in-state] police officers to put their property into other peoples' names" (to make Americans think they can successfully sue police officers "personally" because they are merely "private contractors" impersonating public servants who issue traffic tickets to generate "profits" for their "corporate employers"). Note that this hoax was actually created in support of the hoax above to the effect that all governments and government agencies are private, for-profit corporations (a Deborah Tavares hoax). Note also that this particular WARNING is actually a verbal "false flag" made to look like words from a North Carolina judge when those words actually came from Deborah Tavares and her partners in an effort to trick and deceive the American people. The purpose of this hoax was to make Americans think our local government agencies are completely illegal, illegitimate, invalid, corrupt & diabolical and to otherwise incite hatred and violence against innocent Americans. SO, NEITHER THIS NON-EXISTENT "WARNING" NOR THESE FAKE VIDEOS OR THESE FAKE PRESS RELEASES PROVIDE ANY SUPPORT FOR THE CLAIMS OF DEBORAH TAVARES.

    15. "The FAKE Jim Traficant Speech Hoax". This hoax involves a FAKE and FORGED "transcript" of a speech that a U.S. Congressman allegedly made to Congress to the effect that our federal government went bankrupt in 1933. (The REAL transcript of this speech is in the official "Congressional Record" and DOES NOT SAY THIS!). This document is actually a literary "false flag" which charlatans made to look like a verbatim transcript of a speech which actually never even addressed that particular subject. Deborah Tavares, herself, actually posted this FAKE and FORGED document on her own website. Deborah Tavares has also posted several videos on YouTube wherein she quotes this document despite that she knows it is a FORGERY. Whether or not the United States actually went bankrupt in 1933 is irrelevant to this particular hoax. The REAL hoax is that Deborah Tavares knowingly uses a document which she knows to be a FORGERY in support of that proposition. That is fraud. The purpose of this hoax was to make Americans think that they themselves are "collateral" and debt slaves who exist solely to pay debts arising out of that alleged "bankruptcy" and to make Americans think that our government is completely illegal, illegitimate, invalid, corrupt & diabolical and to otherwise incite hatred and violence against innocent Americans. SO, THIS PARTICULAR FORGED DOCUMENT ACTUALLY PROVIDES NO SUPPORT FOR THE CLAIMS OF DEBORAH TAVARES.

    16. "The Sovereign Citizen Hoax". This hoax involves a FAKE and FORGED document written by Rodney "DALE" Class while pretending to be Judge "DALE" . This FAKE and FORGED document was posted on the website of Al Whitney (real name "Anita Laurin") who, like Rod Class, is also Deborah Tavares' partner in these legal hoaxes. The purpose of this hoax was to make Americans think that ONLY AN INDIVIDUAL IS "SOVEREIGN" and that "WE the PEOPLE" (plural terms) COLLECTIVELY, AS A WHOLE (in the form of our own elected government) ARE NOT "SOVEREIGN" (exactly backwards to the truth), such that our laws do not apply to any INDIVIDUALS (the pretend "sovereigns"). But, none of this is so. Under U.S. law, the word "sovereign" means "WE the PEOPLE" (plural terms) COLLECTIVELY, AS A WHOLE in the form of our ELECTED government, not "the individual". The purpose of this hoax was to make Americans think that "WE the PEOPLE" (plural terms) COLLECTIVELY, AS A WHOLE (in the form of our elected government) have no right to enforce our own laws, made by our own ELECTED lawmakers, against any INDIVIDUAL (the pretend "sovereigns") and to otherwise incite hatred and violence against innocent Americans. Note that this particular FORGERY is actually a literary "false flag" made to make it look like a complaint from a "retired federal judge" about the mistreatment of INDIVIDUALS (the pretend sovereigns) at the hands of the ELECTED government of "We the People" COLLECTIVELY, AS A WHOLE (the REAL sovereigns). SO, THIS PARTICULAR FORGED DOCUMENT ACTUALLY PROVIDES NO SUPPORT FOR THE CLAIMS OF DEBORAH TAVARES. SEE ACTUAL PROOF IN POST #108 BELOW.

    A SINGLE MISTAKE OR TWO CAN BE OVERLOOKED.

    BUT, AN ENTIRE PATTERN OF CONDUCT NEVER LIES!

    NEVER !
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    Thanks Debra,

    I'll try to figure out how to get my notifications turned on (if I don't have them on already). Fortunately, I do understand the "Reply With Quote" feature. But, please be patient with me. I am still new to posting comments here and I am clueless about how websites work in general (and this one in particular).

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    Snoop, appreciate your kind response to my questions.

    I'm curious who's work you find credible & has material worthwhile of study? I used to love reading gripreapers posts regarding this subject but unfortunately he does not post much anymore. Sigma6 is also well versed, so I hope he pops in to give some insight.
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    Hello CurEus,
    Thank you for your timely reply. It is good to hear from a Project Avalon veteran of your experience. I will respond to your comments (below) individually.

    YOUR COMMENT: Well it seems that you're quite passionate about this "Sovereign Citizens" movement and the people within it perpetuating hoaxes on the gullible.

    MY RESPONSE: Let me be clear. My complaint is NOT with the ORDINARY "Sovereign Citizen", the ORDINARY "amateur legal theorist" or the ORDINARY person with a complaint about the law and/or the legal system. There is nothing inherently evil about people who simply do not know the law or who simply misunderstand the law. There is nothing evil or unethical about ignorance or misunderstanding. Those are innocent human flaws.

    My complaint is with those posers and pretenders who purport to "teach" the law, when they themselves are utterly clueless about the law (like Rod Class). Finally, as you correctly pointed out, my biggest complaint is with those posers and pretenders who go to great lengths to create, design, manufacture and market ELABORATE HOAXES to help them "SELL" their false claims about the law to a gullible public (like Rod Class).

    Liars (like Rod Class) do not lie to people who they respect. Liars (like Rod Class) only lie to people who they do not respect. The shear volume of lies that Rod Class tells the public speaks volumes about what he REALLY thinks of the American people. Class pretends to be a humble public servant who is only revealing the "hidden truth" about the law and the legal system to the down-trodden masses. But, this is not so. Class is actually a calculating and manipulative charlatan with no conscience whatsoever and no moral compass whatsoever. Class has two missions in life, first to glorify himself (by lying) and second to incite hatred and violence against the ELECTED representatives of "We the People" (by lying). Class has no intention of telling you the truth. None. Zero. Nada.

    The "Judge DALE Hoax" is a classic example of what sets Rod Class apart from other people who are likewise ignorant of the law. In the "Judge 'DALE' Hoax", Rodney "DALE" Class wrote and published three FAKE legal books, which revealed FAKE legal information, all the while pretending to be a FAKE "retired federal judge" named "Judge DALE" (which uses his middle name, "DALE", as an inside joke). Every single claim in the "Judge DALE forgeries" was carefully calculated to incite hatred and violence against our ELECTED representatives and our ELECTED form of government. That hoax TRICKED thousands of victims into wasting their precious time and resources fighting an imaginary enemy that did not even exist. What a waste!

    There is a world of difference between a person who is simply ignorant of the law on one hand and a calculating and manipulative charlatan (like Rod Class) on the other. It is those professional charlatans and hoaxers (like Rod Class) with whom I take issue.

    YOUR COMMENT: My only awareness is that in Canada "administrative statues" like a drivers license and "private" roads are a bit murky and we do often flip the "common law" switch on occasion to decide cases.

    MY RESPONSE: Without addressing the merits of your claims about "administrative statutes", I can assure you that the term, "common law", means something entirely different in amateur legal theory than it means in the REAL law and legal system. In the REAL law and legal system, the "common law" cannot be "flipped on" or "switched on" to decide cases. In the REAL law and legal system, the "common law" is never "off" to be "flipped" or "switched" back "on" to decide cases.

    In the REAL law and legal system, the "common law" simply means case law (judge made law). (Note that all such judges are themselves ELECTED by "We the People" and/or appointed and/or confirmed by those that are ELECTED by "we the People"). In the REAL law and legal system, "statutes" are simply laws that are made by our ELECTED law makers. In the REAL law and legal system the "common law" and "statutes" WORK TOGETHER TO FORM A SINGLE BODY CALLED "THE LAW". In the REAL law and legal system, BOTH the "common law" and "statutes" are equally valid, equally binding and both are in full force and effect at all times (neither one is ever "off" and both are always "on"). This may be hard for amateur legal theorists to understand, but courts, lawyers and governments understand this simple legal principle very well. It works great if you know enough to understand it.

    YOUR COMMENT: Judges and Justices in Canada do not "have" to have been lawyers. It certainly helps when being vetted for the political appointment though.

    MY RESPONSE: I have no quarrel with what Canada does. But, logically speaking, a former lawyer would be in a far better position to understand the law and legal procedures than a layman would. Lawyers also undergo a rigorous character and fitness examination (background check, criminal history, civil history, credit rating, financial responsibility, etc.) that others do not undergo. So, I am more comfortable with a former lawyer on the bench than a former layman on the bench.

    YOUR COMMENT: A soverign Canadian is in jail for tax evasion...

    MY RESPONSE: Respectfully, this is not so. I recommend that you read my comments entitled "Seventh Grade Civics Explained" and the "Sovereign Citizen Hoax Explained" elsewhere in this thread. That would save me a thousand words here.

    But, this is the bottom line. In countries without a "King" or "Queen" (like Canada and the U.S.), A "SOVEREIGN" IS A GOVERNMENT, NOT AN INDIVIDUAL. In countries without a "King" or Queen" (like Canada and the U.S.) A "SOVEREIGN" IS NOT AN INDIVIDUAL, IT IS A GOVERNMENT. That means that, contrary to your understanding, IT IS NOT TRUE that a "sovereign Canadian" is in jail for tax evasion. This is because Canada has no "King" or "Queen" and because "the Canadian government" (the REAL "sovereign" in Canada) is not in jail for anything.

    YOUR COMMENT: The only "sovereignty" in Canada would lay in the Territories of Unceeded Aboriginal lands or the Queen. But by the early 70's ANYONE born in Canada is a subject of the Queen and a Citizen. Whether you like it or not.

    MY REPONSE: Respectfully, this is NOT so. Again, you really need to read my comments on this very subject described above.

    In amateur legal theory a "sovereign" means an individual. In amateur legal theory the enemy of a "sovereign" is the government of that individual. But, in the REAL law and legal system, in countries without a "King" or "Queen" (like Canada and the U.S.), A "SOVEREIGN" IS A GOVERNMENT, NOT AN INDIVIDUAL. In the REAL law and legal system, in countries without a "King" or Queen" (like Canada and the U.S.) A "SOVEREIGN" IS NOT AN INDIVIDUAL, IT IS A GOVERNMENT.

    Thus, for reasons explained above, the only "sovereignty" in Canada IS THE CANADIAN GOVERNMENT ITSELF (which consists of all of the people in Canada COLLECTIVELY, NOT INDIVIDUALLY).

    Again, thank you for your timely response and I wish the best of luck in quest for an understanding of the law and the legal system.

    All The Best,
    Snoop
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    Basho,

    Thank you again for your timely response.

    YOUR COMMENT: Snoop, appreciate your kind response to my questions.

    MY RESPONSE: Sure, man. Any time.

    YOUR COMMENT: I'm curious who's work you find credible & has material worthwhile of study?

    MY RESPONSE: I do not know of any REAL legal expert (a person with a Juris Doctorate Degree) who teaches the REAL law online FOR FREE. REAL legal experts are generally too busy (practicing law, teaching law at universities or writing books on the law) to teach the REAL law online FOR FREE. I wish there was such a REAL legal expert who taught REAL law online FOR FREE. But, I do not know of any (and I have been unable to find any).

    NOTE: It is precisely because there are no REAL legal experts teaching the REAL law online that charlatans like Rod Class have gotten away with lying to the public about the law for so long.

    My advice for non-lawyers seeking to learn the REAL law is to buy "West's Review Covering Multistate Subjects". http://anesivarsson.tk/download/mKEm...state-subjects. This is a single PDF book that covers several major legal subjects (constitutional law, contracts, criminal law and procedure, evidence, real property and torts). It is a collection of outlines covering several major legal subjects and was written for law students. But, it is NOT state specific. It is general. State specific laws can be found online FOR FREE. Cornell Law School online has a great FREE statutory library (for all federal and state statutes) and Google.Scholar.com online has a great FREE case law library (for all federal and state court decisions, which lawyers and judges call the "common law").

    For those who can spend more than $30.00 on study materials, go here. http://home.westacademic.com/series . This stuff is the cream of the cream. Generally, you should buy an AUDIO course AND an course OUTLINE for each legal subject (one each for contracts, property, criminal law, criminal procedure, torts, civil procedure, constitutional law, business organizations, federal income tax, decedents (wills and trusts), U.C.C., etc.).

    The best AUDIO courses on the law (for listening while you drive, etc.) is "Sum & Substance Audio Series" and "Law School Legends" (You will NOT need to buy two different AUDIO courses for the same legal subject. You will only need one AUDIO course for each legal subject.).

    The best course OUTLINES on the law are "Gilbert's Outlines", "Sum & Substance Outlines", "Emanuel's Outlines" and "Black Letter outlines" (You will only need one course OUTLINE for each legal subject. You will NOT need duplicate course OUTLINES of the same legal subject).

    The "Nutshell" series are tiny POCKET BOOK OUTLINES covering everything about a single legal subject (a single law course). I only recommend "Nutshells" for those rare legal courses that are not already covered in one of my MAIN OUTLINES described above (rare legal courses like insurance, banking, securities, bankruptcy, admiralty/maritime, etc.).

    The other products offered at this website are too voluminous and too complex for non-lawyers to study and would take decades to get through. I do not recommend any of the other products offered at this website to non-lawyers for learning the law.

    YOUR COMMENTS: I used to love reading gripreapers posts regarding this subject but unfortunately he does not post much anymore. Sigma6 is also well versed, so I hope he pops in to give some insight.

    MY RESPONSE: Amateur legal theories and REAL law are NOT the same thing. Indeed, they are OPPOSITES of one another. Amateur legal theories are an IMAGINARY ALTERNATIVE the REAL law that is actually used in the REAL legal system. Amateur legal theories are NOT designed or intended to actually work in court (and they do NOT actually work in court). Charlatans design and carefully-craft amateur legal theories SOLELY to incite hatred and violence against the ELECTED representatives of "We the People" and their appointees, nothing more.

    Amateur legal theory is a "belief system" for the most unsophisticated and most gullible in society, much like "Voodoo" is. And, like Voodoo, some people actually believe amateur legal theory too. But, like Voodoo, amateur legal theory IS NOT ACTUALLY REAL and DOES NOT ACTUALLY WORK. Like Voodoo, amateur legal theory exists only in mind of the believer and nowhere else.

    I have read some of the comments posted by the two people that you mentioned above. While both are intelligent, articulate and literate, neither of them have any knowledge of the REAL law or the REAL legal system. Sadly, both have mistaken amateur legal theory for the REAL law.

    Thank you again for your timely response to my comments above.

    Best Regards,

    snoop4truth
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    Howdy, Snoop!

    REAL law = ? The law used by the BAR?

    What about Common Law? Isn't that real, too?


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    Hello, genevieve,

    YOUR COMMENT: Howdy, Snoop!

    MY RESPONSE: Howdy back! It's great to make your acquaintance. Thanks for your timely comments.

    YOUR COMMENT: REAL law = ?

    MY RESPONSE: REAL law means law that ACTUALLY WORKS all the time. REAL law means law that is ACTUALLY BINDING all the time. REAL law means law that ACTUALLY APPEARS, IN WRITING, in the law library, in APPLICABLE (not inapplicable) Constitutions, Statutes and Court Decisions. REAL law means authentic law that was actually written by those that "We the People" ELECT to write it (such as our ELECTED lawmakers and our ELECTED judges, not amateur legal theorists). REAL law means law that is NOT IMAGINARY (in the way the amateur legal theory is completely imaginary). REAL law means law that is NOT FAKE (in the way that amateur legal theory is completely FAKE). REAL law means law of the type that is taught in REAL law schools and in REAL universities (not as taught by amateur legal theorists). REAL law means law of the type explained in the study materials I described (and linked to above). REAL law means law that is USED BY THE ENTIRE WORLD except by amateur legal theorists. In short, REAL law is the entire body of law, except for amateur legal theory.


    YOUR COMMENT: The law used by the BAR?

    MY RESPONSE: Yes. REAL law is the type of law that is used by THE ENTIRE REST OF THE WORLD except by amateur legal theorists. This necessarily includes the law used by all three branches of the FEDERAL and STATE governments in the United States and by all 50 (FIFTY) STATE bars in the United States.

    As used in amateur legal theory, the term, "the BAR", is a hoax. Read COMMENT SIX (6) in this thread above entitled "ROD CLASS & THE LAWYERS HAVE NO AUTHORITY HOAX". That comment explains the source of the FRAUDULENT term, "BAR", as used by amateur legal theorists in amateur legal theory.

    YOUR COMMENT: What about Common Law? Isn't that real, too?

    MY RESPONSE: The term, "COMMON LAW", means something entirely different in amateur legal theory than it means in the REAL law and legal system. As used in amateur legal theory the "COMMON LAW" is NOT REAL. As used in the REAL legal system, the "COMMON LAW" (case law) IS REAL. In the REAL law, the term "COMMON LAW" simply mean CASE LAW.

    I hope this helps.


    YOUR COMMENT: Peace Love Joy & Harmony,
    genevieve

    My RESPONSE: Same to you. And, I wish you the all the best in you quest for an understanding of the law.

    Best Regards,
    Snoop
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    COMMENT 30: TRACK RECORD OF OTHER "AMATEUR LEGAL THEORISTS" LIKE ROD CLASS:

    NOTE: We have recently repaired the existing broken links below. We apologize for the inconvenience.

    COMMING SOON: A COMPLETE LIST of all of the court LOSSES of Rod Class, Anthony Williams, Karl Lentz, Carl Miller, Dean Clifford and many others! All of them have a 100% FAILURE RATE!

    1. Amateur legal theorist, ANTHONY WILLIAMS, HAS LOST EVERY SINGLE CASE IN WHICH HE HAS EVER BEEN INVOLVED (53 CONSECUTIVE LOSSES IN A ROW AND STILL COUNTING). In the three minute video (below), ANTHONY WILLIAMS, is ARRESTED and JAILED TWICE in Florida for relying on the SAME EXACT amateur legal theory peddled by Rod Class ("No driver's license needed IF NOT ENGAGED IN COMMERCE"). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLbXtscZBM8 . This does not include the TEN (10) MORE ARRESTS and INCARCERATIONS of WILLIAMS in the state of Tennessee for relying on the SAME EXACT amateur legal theory peddled by Rod Class ("No driver's license needed IF NOT ENGAGED IN COMMERCE."). The following link shows a small sample of Anthony Williams' court room LOSSES in just one Nashville court alone. Simply key in "Williams", "Anthony" and "08/09/1971" into the search bars. https://sci.ccc.nashville.gov/Search/Search. Other links to court records are not available. In the link (below), WILLIAMS actually LOSES a lawsuit he filed against the State of Tennessee for requiring him to have a driver's license to drive a motor vehicle despite that he was "NOT ENGAGED IN COMMERCE" (which subject is completely IRRELEVANT under STATE law). https://scholar.google.com/scholar_c...en&as_sdt=4,43.
    Other links to Anthony Williams' court records are not available. But, Anthony Williams' has dozens more court room LOSSES in state or federal court in the states of Alabama, California, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Virginia, South Carolina, Tennessee and Texas.

    2. Amateur legal theorist, CARL MILLER (REAL name "Richard John Champion") is a MULTI-CONVICTED FELON who has been INVOLUNTARILY INCARCERATED in at least one MENTAL INSTITUTION (The Ypsilanti Psychiatric Hospital, which has since closed). MILLER has a 100% FAILURE RATE in court (just like everybody else who peddles amateur legal theories). If you have a Pacer.org account, log on and read the Petition which "Champion, Richard" himself hand-wrote and which he filed in miedce (Fed. Dist. Ct. E.D. Mich.) case no. 2:2004-cv-74693 on 12-01-2004. Note that MILLER admits in that document that he was in a MENTAL INSTITUTION at the time he filed this action after having been FOUND GUILTY OF "SEVEN [(7)] COUNTS" OF "VIOLATION OF [HIS] PROBATION" FOR "POSSESSING WEAPONS AS A CONVICTED FELON". For More MILLER LOSES, see other cases on Pacer.org and on "MACOMB COUNTY [Michigan] CLERK OF COURT" (Macomb County, Michigan Clerk of Court) and key in "Champion", "Richard" (or "Richard Edward") into the search bar.

    3. Amateur legal theorist, WINSTON SHROUT, is CONVICTED and IMPRISONED for decades for BOTH tax evasion and for passing FAKE checks drawn on his imaginary "TRUST ACCOUNT" at the U.S. Treasury in accordance with amateur legal theory.
    https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/orego...ts-us-treasury
    http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2017/04/man_who_failed_to_pay_taxes_fo.html[/url]
    https://www.thedailybeast.com/suit-s...cial-documents
    Shrout and his schemes may be found here.
    https://scholar.google.com/scholar?h...hrout%22&btnG=

    4. Amateur legal theorist, TIM TURNER (Rod Class' life-long IDOL and TEACHER), LOSES ALL OF HIS OWN CASES and goes to prison for 18 years for peddling amateur legal theories on how to avoid federal income taxes (just like Class peddles).
    https://archives.fbi.gov/archives/mo...x-fraud-scheme
    https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/self-...ral-tax-crimes
    https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/self-...ral-tax-crimes
    More of Tim Turner's LOSSES may be seen here.
    https://scholar.google.com/scholar?h...ner%22+tax&oq= (7 of the 11 cases here relate to the CORRECT Tim Turner)

    5. This first video (below) shows computer court records which prove that amateur legal theorist, KARL LENTZ, always LOSES ALL OF HIS OWN TRAFFIC CASES and ALWAYS PAYS HIS OWN TRAFFIC TICKETS AND FINES just like everybody else who peddles amateur legal theories does. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMP21qDU58w. This second video (below) shows a Canadian court document in which the court itself describes Karl Lentz as a "fraud" (the court's actual word) and in which the court confirms that Karl Lentz has LOST ALL OF HIS PRIOR CASES. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaGOSVb2-bQ.
    Karl Lentz LOST all five of his federal court lawsuits that he filed in the Middle District of Alabama, Northern Division. https://scholar.google.com/scholar?h...G=&as_sdt=2006. This total does not even include Karl Lentz' underlying state court LOSS that led to those five federal court LOSSES in the first place (for which no link is available). In 2012, the federal court ordered Karl Lentz to undergo WEEKLY PSYCHIATRIC TREATMENT for his mental illness. https://scholar.google.com/scholar_c...n&as_sdt=40006. (This text is in at the second half of the 4th full paragraph of this case at about 25% through the text of this case).

    6. Amateur legal theorist, DEAN CLIFFORD, always LOSES ALL OF HIS OWN CASES and GOES TO PRISON just like everybody else who peddles amateur legal theories. The following link shows just a few of Dean Clifford's court LOSES in Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada alone. Simply key in the names "Clifford" and "Dean" in the search bars here and click on "search" here.
    http://www.jus.gov.mb.ca/domain/file...otherinfo.aspx
    Then, check out these links.
    https://redice.tv/red-ice-radio/fina...months-in-jail
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--MqtMNe-us
    https://globalnews.ca/news/2220411/j...g-courts-time/

    7. Amateur legal theorist Charles ("Charlie") R. Sprinkle LOSES ALL OF HIS OWN CASES, including the case that he falsely claims that he won against Governor, Ronald Reagan and others in California. CLICK ON THE LINKS WITHIN THE LINK FOR THE ACTUAL (ORIGINAL) COURT DOCUMENTS THEMSELVES. https://jourabjuris.wordpress.com/20...avel-debunked/. (REMEMBER, CLICK ON THE LINKS WITHIN THE LINK FOR THE ACTUAL ORIGINAL COURT DOCUMENTS THEMSELVES.).

    8. Amateur legal theorist, JOHNNY LIBERTY (REAL name, "John David Van Hove"), LOSES ALL OF HIS OWN CASES and GOES TO PRISON just like everybody else who peddles amateur legal theories.
    FIRST, SEE THE HOAX HERE:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9a9PYp94T8&t=152s
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMn-JzfJq00
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXWWprTTNLs&t=275s
    THEN, SEE THE TRUTH HERE:
    https://www.justice.gov/archive/tax/...05vanhove.html
    http://www.dailytidings.com/article/...News/306029998
    https://www.justice.gov/archive/tax/txdv05251.htm
    https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-h.../2006/justice-
    https://www.plainsite.org/dockets/1w...sa-v-van-hove/

    9. Amateur legal theorist, RONNIE DAVIS, LOSES ALL OF HIS OWN CASES and GOES TO PRISON just like everybody else who peddles on amateur legal theories.
    https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/...charge-florida
    https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/...apping-charges
    http://www.theledger.com/news/201611...-area-compound
    https://twitter.com/pascosheriff/sta...962241?lang=en
    http://tampaarrests.net/a/13k2oAA/Ronnie_Lee_Davis
    https://pascocountyarrests.com/news/...edium=facebook

    10. Amateur legal theorist, LYLE HARTFORD VAN DYKE (the real author of "Silent Weapons For Silent Wars"), always LOSES ALL OF HIS OWN CASES and goes to prison because he used amateur legal theories (in both breaking the law and in "defending" himself).
    https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/redc...son-t8216.html
    https://www.plainsite.org/dockets/4w...v-nolan-et-al/
    https://www.plainsite.org/dockets/4w...v-nolan-et-al/.
    More on Van Dyke's court room LOSSES may be seen here.
    https://scholar.google.com/scholar_c...n&as_sdt=40006
    If you have a Pacer.gov account, GO TO PACER.GOV. See all five LOSES filed under the name "Van Dyke, Lyle" and "Van Dyke. Lyle Hartford".

    11. Amateur legal theorist, Eddie Craig, FALSELY claims to be a "FORMER DEPUTY SHERIFF" and an "EXPERT" in the law. But, this is not so. The closest that Eddie Craig ever came to being a "FORMER DEPUTY SHERIFF" was as a "PART-TIME JAILER" in Nacogdoches County, Texas for a period of TWO-WEEKS in 1992 at which time he was unceremoniously FIRED "NOT ELIGIBLE FOR RE-HIRE". Craig FRAUDULENTLY uses this TWO-WEEK tenure as a "PART-TIME JAILER" as the "BASIS" for his "CREDIBILITY" and his "EXPERTISE" in connection with driver's licenses, traffic, travel and motor vehicle codes. But, Eddie Craig is not credible and is certainly not an "expert" in the law. Eddie Craig has LOST EVERY SINGLE ONE OF HIS OWN CASES, including HIS OWN MISDEMEANOR SPEEDING CASE. State of Texas v. Eddie (Eugene) Craig, Case no. C-1-CR-12-100045, offense date 12-12-2011, ARREST date 06-25-2012, CONVICTION date 06-28-2013, Travis County, Texas. (No link to this LOSS is available/). What's more, Eddie Craig has done no better in his civil cases. He has been sued for failing or refusing to pay his debts on FOUR separate occasions. HE LOST ALL FOUR TIMES. For m ore about EDDIE CRAIG'S HOAXES, click here. http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...y-sheriff-hoax.

    12. Amateur legal theorist, ROD CLASS, is a FUNCTIONALLY-ILLITERATE amateur legal theorist with barely a high school education, a history of PSYCHIATRIC PROBLEMS and a history of LOSING EVERY SINGLE ADMINISTRATIVE AND JUDICIAL CASE IN WHICH HE HAS EVER BEEN INVOLVED (more than 73 consecutive LOSSES in a row and still counting). CLASS is also a TWO-TIME, WEAPONS-RELATED, CONVICTED FELON who has BEEN PLACED ON THE UNITED STATES "TERRORIST WATCH LIST". More importantly, CLASS is a professional HOAXER and CHARLATAN who manufactures and peddles ELABORATE HOAXES to intentionally DEFRAUD the American people. FOR MORE ABOUT ROD CLASS HOAXES, CLICK HERE. http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...is-many-hoaxes.

    I.Q. TEST: See a pattern here? All amateur legal theorists are UNEDUCATED. All amateur legal theorists are EXPERTS at DUPING a gullible public and all amateur legal theorists have a 100% FAILURE RATE in court.
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    On his radio show, Class makes intentionally FALSE and FRAUDULENT claims about the law and the legal system to incite hatred and violence against the ELECTED representatives of "We The People" and their appointees for doing their jobs. On his radio show, Class falsely claims that all governments and government agencies are private, for-profit "CORPORATIONS". ...
    Governments, be they Federal, State, or City, are corporations.
    Human beings are treated as such instead of being treated as what they really are, sovereign sentient beings, so that governments can use their "laws" to control said people.
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    Quote Posted by dynamo (here)
    Quote Posted by snoop4truth (here)
    ....

    On his radio show, Class makes intentionally FALSE and FRAUDULENT claims about the law and the legal system to incite hatred and violence against the ELECTED representatives of "We The People" and their appointees for doing their jobs. On his radio show, Class falsely claims that all governments and government agencies are private, for-profit "CORPORATIONS". ...
    Governments, be they Federal, State, or City, are corporations.
    Human beings are treated as such instead of being treated as what they really are, sovereign sentient beings, so that governments can use their "laws" to control said people.


    Similar information about control techniques here:
    http://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...der-Your-Crown
    Yes I have to agree Dynamo. In reference to the bolded, every city, state, and county in THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA all have EIN numbers which anyone can look up so Rod Class is NOT giving false information. I have a list somewhere buried in my files of every EIN numbers for my state and counties and I've personally pulled some of them up on my own rather than just believing what I was told.

    An EIN number denotes one's corporate status......All cap letters are used to denote a corporate status.....And, official documents from above said corporations(such as states and counties which fall under government agencies)use all cap letters on their written/legal correspondences. You will occasionally see me do the same in my postings when referencing a corporation such as THE UNITED STATES OF AMERCIA; no, I'm NOT SHOUTING AT YOU, lol. And if you think about it, they'd have to have EIN numbers in order to be pulled under the jurisdiction of the 'color of law', which is why this country is run as a corporation not a Republic. If we were a Republic there would be no need for 'color of law' as we would be following common law.

    Quote Posted by snoop4truth (here)

    ABOUT SNOOP4TRUTH:
    Snoop4truth is a legal expert and whistle blower who exposes online hoaxes. Snoop4truth did not reveal this information to harm Rod Class. Instead, Snoop4truth exposed this information solely to reduce the CATASTROPHIC DAMAGE that such INTENTIONAL FRAUD inflicts upon the American people every single day. Had it not been for Rod Class' role in the "Judge DALE Hoax", Snoop4truth would not have exposed this information here.

    The message to all hoaxers and charlatans? Just tell the truth.
    I find this very funny,... so this poster considers himself to be a 'legal expert' and yet he doesn't understand that every federal agency is a corporation and has an EIN number?? lmao.....I'm no attorney, but I would consider this to be very basic information. This is like the pot calling the kettle black... How can I not think the poster might want to follow their own advice?
    "The message to all hoaxers and charlatans? Just tell the truth."

    I'm seriously wondering if the intention of the poster is to create confusion by spreading false information themselves? I don't have time or the knowledge base to go through every post with a fine tooth comb. Fortunately most don't either, so few will read and be able to absorb what's been written. And yes, Gripreaper would be perfect for this type of task. If someone knows better please correct me, I'm all ears.
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    Adding to my above post...not that anyone truly cares....lol

    The document below is written by Congressional Research Services for Congress.
    What is CRS?
    "The Congressional Research Service (CRS) serves as shared staff to congressional committees and Members of Congress. CRS experts assist at every stage of the legislative process — from the early considerations that precede bill drafting, through committee hearings and floor debate, to the oversight of enacted laws and various agency activities."
    Source: https://www.loc.gov/crsinfo/about/

    Snoop4truth says:
    "On his radio show, Class falsely claims that all governments and government agencies are private, for-profit "CORPORATIONS"

    See underlined:

    "To assist Congress in its oversight activities, this report provides an overview of the government corporation as an administrative model. As defined in this report, a government corporation is a government agency that is established by Congress to provide a market-oriented public service and to produce revenues that meet or approximate its expenditures. By this definition, currently there are 17 government corporations.

    In the typical contemporary Congress, several bills are introduced to establish
    government corporations. At the time of publication of this report, two bills had been introduced in the 112th Congress to improve U.S. infrastructure by establishing government corporations—H.R. 404 and S. 652. Similarly, in the 111th Congress, government corporations bills included ones that would have created an Indian Development Finance Corporation (H.R. 1607 ), a Green Bank (H.R. 1698), and a National Infrastructure Development Bank (H.R. 2521).

    The government corporation model has been utilized by the federal government for over a century. Today’s government corporations cover the spectrum in size and function from large, well-known entities, such as the U.S. Postal Service and the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, to small, low-visibility corporate bodies, such as the Federal Financing Bank in the Department of the Treasury and Federal Prison Industries in the Department of Justice.

    The federal government does not possess a general incorporation statute as states do. Each government corporation is chartered through an act of Congress. The use of separate acts to charter each corporation has resulted in wide variance in the legal and organizational structure of government corporations. That said, the Government Corporation Control Act of 1945, as amended, does provide for the standardized budget, auditing, debt management, and depository
    practices for those corporations listed in the act.

    Within the executive branch, no one agency is responsible for the oversight and supervision of government corporations. Neither the House nor the Senate have single committees with the responsibility to oversee all government corporations. Instead, each corporation is overseen by the committee(s) with jurisdiction over its policy area."


    Source: https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/RL30365.pdf

    Additionally to drive the point home take a look at this link and you will see EIN numbers for several federal agencies:

    https://www.scribd.com/doc/154988574...cy-Ein-Numbers


    yes, yes, this is like chewing on cardboard I get it...truly...not my favorite thing to do either.

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    we-R-one--

    Thanks for doing what I don't have the time to do--RESEARCH--in order to rebut snoop4truth's mis-info or dis-info. You're a gem!

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    Quote Posted by dynamo (here)
    Governments, be they Federal, State, or City, are corporations.
    Quote Posted by we-R-one (here)
    Yes I have to agree Dynamo.
    ...
    I'm seriously wondering if the intention of the poster is to create confusion by spreading false information themselves?
    Quote Posted by genevieve (here)
    we-R-one--

    Thanks for doing what I don't have the time to do--RESEARCH--in order to rebut snoop4truth's mis-info or dis-info. You're a gem!

    Peace Love Joy & Harmony,
    genevieve
    Yes - I quite agree with all of the above .

    After we closed snoop4truth's account, he appealed to us (the forum moderators), in an email message, to reconsider our closing of his account.

    As usual, I will not make public such communications.

    But his appeal further convinced us that snoop4truth and Project Avalon had best go their separate ways.

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    Hi Genevieve! Good to see you! Glad to help, wish I could do more on here, but yes time is a factor for me too not to mention limited knowledge. I do wonder if this thread is more intended as a smear campaign rather than based on factual arguments? Few study or research this type of information and who can blame them, it's very complicated..intentionally by design to confuse. Common Law is the opposite, more black and white from what I can see.

    I was fortunate enough to study under a 'reader of the law' and 'applier of the law' during my patriot days when I was trying to understand wth was going on, lol. It was an eye-opening experience! I'm familiar with Rod Class and have listened to some of his audios, however I don't know enough to weed through every bullet point listed on this thread to prove its legitimacy on either side. I respected Rod for what he was attempting to do. I'm always open to different viewpoints, but in this case one has to have an enormous knowledge base and learning curve to follow along. The majority of the Avalon crowd isn't really focused or concerned about such an in depth look at the legal system, however I'm sure that would change if it was easier to understand.

    Gripreaper and I took an identical path of discovery at the same time back in the days when many were learning about the fraud being perpetuated on 'we the people' by means of interpretive ruling via utilization of the 'color of law'. Both Grip and I have represented ourselves, pro se, with success thanks to people like Rod Class. So I know some of what Rod teaches is correct. I'm sure had Grip and I lived in the same state, we would have eventually bumped into one another during our quest for understanding the system. The difference between the two us...Grip chews cardboard waaayy better than I do! lmao

    Thanks Paul, just saw your message, I had a funny feeling about this guy who seems awfully hell bent on discrediting Rod Class. In fairness, even though dynamo caught one discrepancy, the poster could have some legitimate points, further research would be needed to make that determination, but not by me, lol.


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    Hello we-R-one, long time for me to be here but I could not stay away with this particular thread. First of all I see that this troll was dumped (snoop4truth) and I see that you and several others finally called him out. I can't believe how the trolls just seem to have nothing better to do other than bash or smear folks that do try and help others as well as themselves when it comes to the CORPORATE bullsh*t. I just happen to be on another site and caught this troll plastering his same crap on there. He really took a nasty jab at Debra Tavaras and Rod Class and Judge Dale and any others that have red pilled the folks about the CORPORATE systems.

    Thank you for saying what you did and doing your great research into the roads of truth. Gripreaper and I had many a dinner of cardboard boxes over this stuff and still chew on it. Yes it would have been a very interesting thing to see Grip rip this guy a new ash hole.

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    Oh I know it would have been great to have him on here! I would have enjoyed another 'learning' session compliments of Grip myself! Thanks for popping in and letting us know!

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    PART 1 OF RESPONSE TO DYNAMO

    Thank you very much for your comments. I will respond to them individually below.

    PERSONAL NOTE TO DYNAMO:
    First on a personal note, I am well aware that THE TRUTH about the REAL law and the legal system is NOT POPULAR with amateur legal theorists, is NOT WELCOMED by amateur legal theorists and that it is INCONSISTENT with the belief system of amateur legal theorists.

    But, none of that will make THE TRUTH about the law and the legal system false. THE TRUTH about the REAL law and the legal system WILL STILL BE THE TRUTH. It does not matter whether that TRUTH is POPULAR. ALL THAT REALLY MATTERS IS THAT IT IS THE TRUTH.


    THE "ALL GOVERNMENTS ARE PRIVATE, FOR-PROFIT CORPORATIONS HOAX".

    FIRST, SEE THE HOAX HERE:

    ARTICLES:
    https://anticorruptionsociety.com/20...ate-franchise/ (an article actually written by Rodney "DALE" Class while pretending to be "Judge DALE". See paragraphs ACTUALLY NUMBERED "1, 2 & 3")

    https://www.akupressllc.com/150121Cr...ourtDenver.pdf (at page ACTUALLY NUMBERED "3" in the 4th paragraph at about 50% through the text)

    https://scannedretina.com/2014/11/27...erican-people/ (at the first BLOCK INDENTED paragraph IN ALL ITALIC TYPE)

    http://houseofpraani.com/portfolio/itnj/ (at the 2nd paragraph)

    https://globalfreedommovement.org/ex...ith-rod-class/

    VIDEOS:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7DicAWY4P4 (at :1:00-1:15)

    YOU MUST SEE THE FOLLOWING PORTIONS OF THESE VIDEOS!:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05o4CpB9I8g&t=260s (at 2:25-4:00, 5:25-6:15, 6:40-7:30, 7:55-8:50)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTRPZD3_w5k (at 42:10-42:35, 47:50--49:00)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRnogqeqzxk (at 6:20-6:45, 7:10-7:55, 25:55-26:45)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQeazE8_Ipk (at 43:15-43:50, 52:30-53:00)


    YOUR COMMENT: Governments, be they Federal, State, or City, are corporations.

    MY RESPONSE: You may have misread my words. What I actually said was "On his radio show, Class falsely claims that all governments and government agencies are PRIVATE, FOR-PROFIT corporations". ... (THESE WORDS HAVE AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT MEANING IN THE LAW.).

    YOUR COMMENT AGAIN: Governments, be they Federal, State, or City, are corporations.

    MY RESPONSE: Respectfully, this is NOT TRUE in the way that you and other amateur legal theorists mean it to be true.

    FACT: In amateur legal theory, the "law" comes ONLY from the claims of other amateur legal theorists (NOT from the WRITTEN WORDS of the REAL LAW itself). But, in the REAL law, the law comes ONLY from the actual WRITTEN WORDS of the REAL LAW itself (NOT from the claims of amateur legal theorists). Consider the REAL law below.

    U.S. v Cooper, https://scholar.google.com/scholar_c...2&as_sdt=40006 (HOLDING THAT THE UNTIED STATES IS NOT A "CORPORATION"). In this case, a private corporation sought to sue the United States under a federal statute that authorized civil lawsuits against any "person". The private corporation argued that the United States was such a "person" because it was a "corporation" (an artificial legal person). But, the court ruled otherwise and wrote, "While there may be isolated cases which hold that the different states, and even the United States, are "bodies politic and corporate", THEY DO NOT HOLD THAT THE UNITED STATES IS A CORPORATION EXISTING BY THE LAWS OF THE UNTIED STATES [in the way that amateur legal theorists mean it]... . THE UNITED STATES CANNOT, THEREFORE, BE CLASSIFIED AS A CORPORATION EXISTING UNDER THE LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES [in the way that amateur legal theorists mean it]... ." (in the 3rd to last paragraph of this case).

    MY RESPONSE CONTINUED:
    The term, "corporation" FOOLS Rod Class and other amateur legal theorists. They mistakenly believe that there is only ONE TYPE OF CORPORATION in the whole world and that EVERY CORPORATION in the whole world IS A PRIVATE, FOR-PROFIT corporation. https://anticorruptionsociety.com/20...ate-franchise/ (at the paragraph ACTUALLY NUMBERED "3"). But, this is not so.

    One loose, informal definition of a "corporation" is simply "a separate, legal entity which may enter into contracts in its own name and sue and be sued in its own name". Governments happen to have these same basic characteristics. So, in this sense, AND ONLY IN THIS SENSE, all governments are arguably "corporations" (loosely and informally speaking).

    BUT, THIS IS NOT WHAT ROD CLASS AND OTHER AMATEUR LEGAL THEORISTS MEAN BY CLAIMING THAT ALL GOVERNMENTS ARE "CORPORATIONS". Instead, they mean that ALL governments are corporations WHICH ARE "IN THE BUSINESS" OF STEALING MONEY FROM THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TO GENERATE "PROFITS" FOR THEIR "PRIVATE OWNERS". https://anticorruptionsociety.com/20...ate-franchise/ (at the paragraph ACTUALLY NUMBERED "3"). Such IMAGINARY governmental entities would NOT merely be "corporations". Instead, such IMAGINARY governmental entities would actually be PRIVATE, FOR-PROFIT corporations. THAT IS SOMETHING ENTIRELY DIFFERENT IN THE LAW! NO GOVERNMENT OR GOVERNMENTAL AGENCY IN THE UNITED STATES IS A "CORPORATION" IN THIS SENSE OF THE WORD (in the way that amateur legal theorists mean it) and the courts have repeatedly said so.


    OTHER TYPES OF CORPORATIONS UNDER THE REAL LAW

    Remember, Rod Class and other amateur legal theorists mistakenly believe that every CORPORATION in the whole world is a PRIVATE, FOR-PROFIT corporation (the "bad" kind of corporation). But, this is not so.

    Unknown to Rod Class and other amateur legal theorists, there are DOZENS and DOZENS of different types of corporations. But, ONLY ONE (1) TYPE of corporation is a PRIVATE, FOR-PROFIT corporation which makes "PROFITS" for its "PRIVATE STOCKHOLDERS" (the "bad" kind of corporation). Unknown to Rod Class and other amateur legal theorists, there are COUNTLESS OTHER TYPES of NON-PROFIT corporations WHICH ARE ACTUALLY OWNED BY THE PUBLIC, OPERATED BY THE PUBLIC AND SERVE THE PUBLIC (not "private stockholders") FOR THE PUBLIC GOOD.

    For example, there are PUBLICLY-OWNED, NON-PROFIT corporations (like some publicly-owned hospitals, schools and universities and some electrical and water utilities, NONE of which have "stockholders" and NONE of which make "profits"). There are also PUBLICLY-OWNED, NON-PROFIT MUNICIPAL corporations (like cities and towns, NONE of which have "stockholders" and NONE of which make "profits" and ALL of which are controlled entirely by people ELECTED by "We the People" TO CONTROL THEM). There are countless other different types of PUBLICLY-OWNED, NON-PROFIT corporations which serve the public (not "private stockholders"). But, Rod Class and other amateur legal theorists do not know enough to even realize this. Click on the links below.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonprofit_corporation

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_corporation

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State-owned_enterprise

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Municipal_corporation

    [https://thestartupgarage.com/corpora...ciations-llcs/

    https://thestartupgarage.com/corpora...fit-religious/


    ABOUT "FEDERAL CORPORATIONS"

    Our federal government has even structured seventeen of our federal government agencies as PUBLICLY-OWNED, NON-PROFIT "federal corporations" (NO STOCKHOLDERS, NO PROFITS, etc.). In general, all of the federal agencies that are structured this way have two things in common, they all have their own customers (or their own source of revenue) and none of them receive any money from Congress.

    Three well-known examples of such federal agencies are the United States Postal Service (The Post Office-U.S. Mail), AMTRAK (a publicly-owned, non-profit railroad) and the Tennessee Valley Authority (a publicly-owned, non-profit ELECTRICAL POWER utility). You will note that ALL THREE of these PUBLICLY-OWNED, NON-PROFIT "federal corporations" have their own customers and none of them receive any money from Congress.

    There are THREE MAIN REASONS why the federal government structured these federal agencies as PUBLICLY-OWNED, NON-PROFIT "federal corporations": 1). To force each such federal agency to work within their own budgets BY USING THEIR OWN REVENUES (received from their own customers/sources) instead of receiving money from Congress; 2). To relieve taxpayers of the burden of paying for governmental services that they might not even use (not everyone uses snail mail, rides trains or lives in the "Tennessee Valley"); and 3). To ensure that each such federal agency provide the highest possible quality of service at the lowest possible cost to the taxpayer in order to avoid their own failure and collapse (which, due to this organizational structure, would have no adverse effect on the rest of the federal government or on the taxpayer anyway). IT'S ALL ABOUT ACCOUNTABILITY AND FAIRNESS TO THE TAXPAYER. For more on this subject, click here. https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/RL30365.pdf

    FACT: All corporations are "ARTIFICIAL" persons (NON-human beings).

    FACT: No "NATURAL" person (no human being) can be a corporation.


    THE SECRET CORPORATION MYTH:

    FACT: Contrary to what Rod Class and other amateur legal theorists mistakenly believe, there is no such thing as a "SECRET CORPORATION" of any kind (regardless of what type they are or whom they serve). All corporations (no matter what type they are or whom they serve) ARE PUBLICLY "INCORPORATED" IN A STATE OR PUBLICLY "CREATED" BY STATUTE OR ORDINANCE. All "PRIVATE" corporations ARE PUBLICLY "INCORPORATED" IN A STATE AND ARE PUBLICLY "REGISTERED" IN EVERY STATE WHERE THEY DO BUSINESS. So if they exist, THERE WILL BE A "PUBLIC RECORD" OF THEM, their "articles of incorporation", their creation date, their purpose, their function, their powers, their scope, their addresses, their officers (and often their directors), their trade names, their fictitious names, their trademarks, their service marks, their annual reports, their registered agent for service of civil lawsuits and so forth, ALL OF WHICH ARE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC ONLINE. Further, all "PUBLIC" corporations (no stockholders and no profits) ARE PUBLICLY "CREATED" BY A PUBLIC STATE OR FEDERAL "STATUTE" OR BY A PUBLIC COUNTY OR CITY "ORDINANCE". So, if they exist, THERE WILL BE A "PUBLIC RECORD" OF THEM, their creation date, their purpose, their function, their powers, their scope and so forth, ALL OF WHICH ARE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC ONLINE).

    Translation: ALL CORPORATIONS (regardless of what type they are or whom they serve) ARE PUBLICLY "CREATED" BY A DOCUMENT THAT IS ACTUALLY FILED IN THE "PUBLIC RECORD" FOR ALL THE WORLD TO SEE! There are NO EXCEPTIONS! NONE! Whether an entity is a "corporation" IS "ALWAYS" A MATTER OF "PUBLIC RECORD"! So, there is NO "GUESS WORK" about whether an entity is a corporation or not. If an entity is not PUBLICLY "INCORPORATED" in a state or was not PUBLICLY "CREATED" by a PUBLIC statute or PUBLIC ordinance, THEN IT IS NOT A CORPORATION! It is that simple. There are NO EXCEPTIONS! NONE! This means that there is NOTHING "SECRET" OR "MYSTERIOUS" about the existence of either PUBLIC or PRIVATE corporations. Their documents are IN THE "PUBLIC RECORD" for all the world to see. But, Rod Class and other amateur legal theorists do not know enough to even realize this.

    Translation: To find out if an entity is a corporation, the ONE and ONLY place to find the answer IS IN THE PUBLIC RECORD (not in Dun & Bradstreet, not on a list of entities with EIN numbers and not on amateur legal theory websites). All "PRIVATE" corporations can be found online at the STATE "SECRETARY OF THE STATE, DIVISION OF CORPORATIONS" or the foreign equivalent if a foreign "PRIVATE" corporation. All "PUBLIC" corporations can be found in STATE and FEDERAL STATUTES and in county or city ORDINANCES or the foreign equivalent if a foreign "PUBLIC" corporation. If an entity cannot be found in those places, IT IS NOT A CORPORATION. It is that simple. But, Rod Class and other amateur legal theorists do not know enough to even realize this.


    TWO SOURCES OF CONFUSION IN AMATEUR LEGAL THEORY:

    Amateur legal theorists are PATHOLOGICALLY DESPERATE to discredit and delegitimize the FEDERAL government of “We the People”. So, if any FEDERAL statute contains the terms, "corporate" or "corporation" in reference to anything FEDERAL, then amateur legal theorists will use that FEDERAL statute in support of their false claim that the FEDERAL government is itself a PRIVATE, FOR-PROFIT corporation which makes "PROFITS" for its "PRIVATE STOCKHOLDERS". Two such FEDERAL statutes cited by amateur legal theorists in support of this false claim are the "Act Of 1871" and "Title 28 U.S.C. (15)(a)".

    THE ACT OF 1871:
    The Act Of 1871 reads in pertinent part, "...[We hereby create] a government by the name of [the "CITY" of] THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA [not the ”United States Of America”] by which name it is hereby constituted a BODY CORPORATE [this term is a source of the confusion] for MUNICIPAL [means "CITY"] PURPOSES [not for other purposes]... [and this body is empowered to] exercise all... powers of a MUNICIPAL CORPORATION [this term is also a source of the confusion and actually means "CITY GOVERNMENT"] not inconsistent with [means "CONSISTENT WITH"] the Constitution and the laws of the United States." http://www.loc.gov/law/help/statutes.../c41s3ch62.pdf.

    Thus, the Act of 1871 simply created a "CITY" GOVERNMENT for the "CITY" of Washington, D.C., (NOT FOR THE ENTIRE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT). But, amateur legal theorists are intellectually unable to tell the difference between the two (a "CITY" GOVERNMENT on one hand and the "ENTIRE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT" on the other hand). Remember, if any FEDERAL statute contains the terms, "corporate" or "corporation" in reference to anything FEDERAL, then amateur legal theorists will use that FEDERAL statute in support of their false claim that the FEDERAL government is itself a PRIVATE, FOR-PROFIT corporation which makes "PROFITS" for its "PRIVATE STOCKHOLDERS".

    But, because the "CITY" of Washington, D.C. is the seat of the FEDERAL government and because they mistakenly believe that all corporations in the world are PRIVATE, FOR-PROFIT corporations, Rod Class and other amateur legal theorists falsely claim that the terms, "body corporate" and "municipal corporation" (contained in the Act Of 1871) prove that the "ENTIRE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT" (rather than merely the "CITY" GOVERNMENT of Washington, D.C.) IS ITSELF A PRIVATE, FOR-PROFIT corporation which makes "PROFITS" for its "PRIVATE STOCKHOLDERS. https://www.akupressllc.com/150121Cr...ourtDenver.pdf (at page ACTUALLY NUMBERED "3" in the 4th paragraph at about 50% through the text)
    But, this is not so.

    FACT: There is NOTHING about the Act of 1871 that has any affect whatsoever on the FEDERAL government itself. Instead, The Act of 1871 only relates to the "CITY" government of Washington, D.C. Likewise, NOTHING about the Act Of 1971 makes the FEDERAL government itself (or the "CITY" of Washington, D.C. for that matter) a PRIVATE, FOR-PROFIT CORPORATION which makes "PROFITS" for its private "STOCKHOLDERS". But, Rod Class and other amateur legal theorists do not know enough to even realize this.

    TITLE 28 U.S.C. 3002(15)(a):
    Title 28 U.S.C. 3002 (15)(a) reads in pertinent part, "DEFINITIONS... As used in THIS chapter [ONLY, and not for any other purpose],... United States means- ... a federal corporation [this term is a source of the confusion]... ." Title 28 U.S.C. 3002 (15) (a) merely provides the definitions (only) SOLELY FOR THE PURPOSE OF A SINGLE FEDERAL CHAPTER (AND THOSE DEFINITIONS DO NOT APPLY TO ANY OTHER CHAPTER AND CANNOT BE USED IN CONNECTION WITH ANY OTHER PURPOSE). This is why the VERY FIRST WORDS of Title 28 U.S.C. § 3002 read, “As used in THIS chapter [and NOT other chapters or for other purposes]... ." https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/28/3002 (See the VERY FIRST WORDS at the TOP of this section.). The SINGLE CHAPTER for which Title 28 U.S.C. § 3002 provides definitions is the FEDERAL DEBT COLLECTION PROCEDURE ACT (chapter 176).

    But remember, if any FEDERAL statute contains the terms, "corporate" or "corporation" in reference to anything FEDERAL, then amateur legal theorists will use that FEDERAL statute in support of their false claim that the United States is itself a PRIVATE, FOR-PROFIT corporation which makes "PROFITS" for its "PRIVATE STOCKHOLDERS". So, Rod Class and other amateur legal theorists falsely claim that Title 28 U.S.C. 3002(15)(a) proves that the United States is itself a PRIVATE, FOR-PROFIT corporation which makes "PROFITS" for its "PRIVATE STOCKHOLDERS". But, this is not so.

    The SINGLE CHAPTER for which Title 28 U.S.C. 3002(15)(a) provides definitions (chapter 176) relates to the "PROCEDURE" ONLY that the "United States" must follow when collecting certain debts. https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/28/3001. Title 28 U.S.C. § 3002 (15) (a) DOES NOT actually define the "United States" as a ”federal corporation”. Instead, it actually defines a “federal corporation” (like AMTRAK) as the “United States” SOLELY FOR PURPOSES OF THE FEDERAL DEBT COLLECTION PROCEDURE ACT.

    APPLICATION: So, if AMTRAK (a "federal corporation") sought to collect on such a debt, it would have to follow the SAME "PROCEDURE" set forth in the Fair Debt Collection Procedure Act THAT ANY OTHER PART OF THE "UNITED STATES” GOVERNMENT WOULD HAVE TO FOLLOW TO COLLECT SUCH A DEBT. It is that simple. But, Rod Class and other amateur legal theorists do not know enough to even realize this.

    FACT: This definition IN THE FEDERAL DEBT COLLECTION PROCEDURE ACT does not mean that the entire “United States” is itself a PRIVATE, FOR-PROFIT corporation which generates "PROFITS" for its "PRIVATE STOCKHOLDERS". But, consider this. Even if the "United States" was such a "PRIVATE", "FOR-PROFIT" corporation, and it is not, ALL of the governmental decisions made by that alleged "corporation" WOULD STILL BE MADE BY PEOPLE THAT WE "ELECT" TO RUN IT. For more on this very subject, read comment 12 in this same thread above.


    THE ACTUAL REAL LAW ITSELF ON WHETHER GOVERNMENTS ARE "CORPORATIONS" FOR AMATEUR LEGAL THEORY PURPOSES:

    1). Thompson v. Scutt, https://scholar.google.com/scholar_c...n&as_sdt=40006. (RULING AGAINST ALL OF THE DEFENDANT'S AMATEUR LEGAL THEORIES, including his amateur legal theories that the state and federal government are "CORPORATIONS"). In this case, the court wrote, "Petitioner [an amateur legal theorist] also contends that THE STATE OF MICHIGAN AND THE UNITED STATES ARE CORPORATIONS, and as such, can only "interface" with other artificial entities, not natural persons like Petitioner [a false claim that Rod Class also makes]. In support of his argument, Petitioner [an amateur legal theorist] cites the Federal Debt Collection Procedures Act (FDCPA), 28 U.S.C. 3002 et seq [discussed above], and the Michigan Constitution, Article VII, section 1, NEITHER OF WHICH SUPPORTS HIS CLAIM THAT THE STATE OF MICHIGAN AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ARE CORPORATIONS [read this phrase again]. Petitioner [an amateur legal theorist] contends that, AS CORPORATIONS, the State of Michigan and the federal government cannot "concern [themselves] with anything OTHER THAN CORPORATE, ARTIFICIAL ENTITIES AND INTANGIBLE ABSTRACTIONS [a false claim that Rod Class also makes].... .’' But, the court held otherwise and wrote, “SUCH REASONING IS DEVOID OF LEGAL SUPPORT [Translation: are amateur legal theories] and contrary to common sense." (at paragraph 9 at about 40% through the text of the case). The court continues at footnote 2 near the end of the case as follows, "The FDCPA [discussed above] DOES NOT STATE THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS A CORPORATION [much less a private, for-profit corporation]. Article VII of the Michigan constitution merely indicates that 'each organized county shall be a BODY CORPORATE [not a private, for-profit corporation].'" (at footnote 2 near the end of the case).

    2). DuBose v. Kasich, https://scholar.google.com/scholar_c...n&as_sdt=40006. (RULING AGAINST ALL OF THE PLAINTIFF'S AMATEUR LEGAL THEORIES, including the amateur legal theory that the state and federal government are "CORPORATIONS"). In this case, an amateur legal theorist unsuccessfully sued various government officials. The court wrote, "Plaintiff [an amateur legal theorist] sets forth his own versions of various 'sovereign citizen' [amateur legal] theories. Such [amateur legal] theories involve the alleged CORPORATE STATUS OF OHIO AND THE UNITED STATES... ." But, the court held otherwise and wrote, "... [F]ederal courts have routinely recognized that such [amateur legal] theories are MERITLESS and WORTHY OF LITTLE DISCUSSION [read that phrase again]... . " (at the 13th paragraph, just above section "IV" at about 95% through the text).

    3). Florance v. Buchmeyer, https://scholar.google.com/scholar_c...n&as_sdt=40006. (RULING AGAINST ALL OF THE PLAINTIFF'S AMATEUR LEGAL THEORIES, including his amateur legal theory that the state and federal government are federal "CORPORATIONS".). In this case, an amateur legal theorist unsuccessfully sued various government agencies and officials. The court wrote, "Plaintiff [an amateur legal theorist] responds that the STATE OF TEXAS is not protected by immunity under the Eleventh Amendment because it is a 'FEDERAL CORPORATION'... ." (at section "D" at about 65% through the text of the case). Later in the text in section "k" the court held otherwise and wrote, "Plaintiff [an amateur legal theorist] cites 28 U.S.C. § 3002(15) [discussed above] in the paragraph pertaining to his claim against the USA... . To the extent that Plaintiff [an amateur legal theorist] relies on § 3002(15) [discussed above] to sue the USA, IT DOES NOT APPLY BECAUSE § 3002 [discussed above] IS SIMPLY A DEFINITIONS STATUTE IN THE CHAPTER THAT AUTHORIZES THE USA TO... [COLLECT CERTAIN DEBTS]." (in section "k" at about 85% through the text).

    4). U.S. v. Petersen, https://scholar.google.com/scholar_c...n&as_sdt=40006 (RULING AGAINST ALL OF THE DEFENDANT'S AMATEUR LEGAL THEORIES, including his amateur legal theory that the United States is a "CORPORATION".). The court wrote, "... Defendant [an amateur legal theorist] contends that 'THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IS A FEDERAL CORPORATION, and one that is 'located in the ["CITY" of the] District of Columbia'. ... [The Defendant] further claims that the 'United States Government [rather than merely the "CITY" government of Washington, D.C.] was officially [c]ommercialized in 1871,' apparently arguing that this entity's powers 'shall be limited to the ["CITY" limits of the] District of Columbia.' ... . BUT [THE] DEFENDANT'S RELIANCE ON 28 U.S.C. § 3002(15) [discussed above] IS MISPLACED [read that phrase again]. That statute is simply a definitional provision DEFINING the "United States" as, among other options, 'a federal corporation' SOLELY FOR PURPOSES OF THE CHAPTER WHICH IT IS PART... . The applicability of [this] Chapter... is confined to CIVIL actions [filed] by the United States [against debtors]... to recover a judgment on a debt... . This CRIMINAL action [this case] is not [such a] a CIVIL debt collection action [so that definition is inapplicable in this case]... . In addition, [THE] DEFENDANT'S RELIANCE ON THE... [Act Of 1871 discussed above], IS LIKEWISE MISPLACED [read that phrase again] as that statute simply 'created a ["CITY"] government by the name of the District of Columbia [not "The United States Of America"],' a municipal corporation [which means a "CITY" government] with ‘jurisdiction over all the territory within the [CITY] limits of the District.’... . The present CRIMINAL prosecution of [the] Defendant [in this case] has nothing to do with the powers that Congress delegated to the ["CITY" of the ] District [Of Columbia. So, THAT DEFINITION DOES NOT APPLY IN THIS CASE]." (at the 13th, 14th and 15th paragraphs at about 35% through the text).

    5). U.S. v. Wiggins, https://scholar.google.com/scholar_c...n&as_sdt=40006. (RULING AGAINST ALL OF THE DEFENDANT'S AMATEUR LEGAL THEORIES, including his amateur legal theory that the United States is a "CORPORATION".). The court wrote, "Wiggins [an amateur legal theorist]... ERRONEOUSLY CITES 28 U.S.C. § 3002(15) [discussed above] to support his assertion that THE UNITED STATES IS A CORPORATION... . [But, t]hat statute governs the collection of federal debt.... . Section 3002(15) [discussed above] merely provides that the term "United States," WHEN USED "IN THIS... [STATUTE]," refers to a federal corporation, agency, entity, or instrumentality of the United States [not a private, for-profit corporation]." (at footnote 18).

    6). Kitchens v. Becraft, https://scholar.google.com/scholar_c...n&as_sdt=40006. (RULING AGAINST ALL OF THE PLAINTIFF’S AMATEUR LEGAL THEORIES, including his amateur legal theory that the United States is a "CORPORATION".). In this case, an amateur legal theorist unsuccessfully sued a Texas state official]. The court wrote, "Next, Kitchens [an amateur legal theorist] contends that 'THE UNITED STATES IS A CORPORATION' and thus has no sovereign authority." But, the court held otherwise and wrote, "[T]he Plaintiff's [Kitchen's] objections ARE WITHOUT MERIT [read that phrase again]." (at the 6th paragraph at about 50% through the case).

    7). U.S. v. Beavers, https://scholar.google.com/scholar_c...n&as_sdt=40006. (RULING AGAINST ALL OF THE DEFENDANTS' AMATEUR LEGAL THEORIES, including their amateur legal theory that the United States is a "CORPORATION".). In this case, the court wrote, "The Defendants [both amateur legal theorists] assert that THE "UNITED STATES OF AMERICA" IS A FEDERAL CORPORATION that went bankrupt in 1933 [a false claim that Rod Class also makes] and lacks jurisdiction to prosecute criminal matters... .' But, the court held otherwise and wrote, "THE COURT FINDS THE DEFENDANT'S [the amateur legal theorists'] ARGUMENTS TO BE MERITLESS [read this phrase again]." (at the 17th-18th paragraph at about 50% through the text). At footnote 9, the court continues, "As explained [above], the Defendants cite 28 U.S.C. § 3002 [discussed above] to support their claim that THE UNITED STATES IS A CORPORATION. HOWEVER, A COMPLETE READING OF 28 U.S.C. § 3002 BELIES [means "REFUTES"] THIS INTERPRETATION." (at footnote 9).

    8). Kubicki v U.S., https://scholar.google.com/scholar_c...n&as_sdt=40006. (RULING AGAINST ALL OF THE DEFENDANT'S AMATEUR LEGAL THEORIES, including his amateur legal theory that the United States is a "CORPORATION".). In this case, a tax protester/amateur legal theorist unsuccessfully sued the United States. The court wrote, "Plaintiff [an amateur legal theorist] argues that Defendant [the United States] has no immunity [from his suit], BECAUSE THE UNITED STATES HAS IDENTIFIED ITSELF AS A FEDERAL CORPORATION for purposes of tax collection activity.' But, the court held otherwise and wrote, "To support this proposition, Plaintiff [the amateur legal theorist] cites 28 U.S.C. § 3002(15)[discussed above]. THIS SECTION, HOWEVER, DOES NOT DEFINE THE UNITED STATES AS A FEDERAL CORPORATION for purposes of tax collection. Instead, IT MERELY PROVIDES THE DEFINITION OF THE "UNITED STATES’ FOR PURPOSES OF THE [SAME] STATUTE [IN WHICH IT APPEARS] AS A ‘FEDERAL CORPORATION’ [not a private, for-profit corporation]... ." (at the 8th paragraph not including block-indented portions at about 60% through the text).

    9). U.S. v. Boyce, https://scholar.google.com/scholar_c...n&as_sdt=40006. (RULING AGAINST ALL OF THE TAX PROTESTERS' AMATEUR LEGAL THEORIES, including their amateur legal theory that the United States is a "CORPORATION".). The court wrote, "The Boyces [both tax protesters and amateur legal theorists]... assert that the court's jurisdiction is limited to individuals residing within the ["CITY" limits of the] District of Columbia citing 28 U.S.C. § 3002(15) [discussed above], WHICH DEFINES THE "UNITED STATES" AS... A FEDERAL CORPORATION... . [T]hey contend the court's jurisdiction extends only to the section of territory occupied by 'THE ULTIMATE PARENT FEDERAL CORPORATION,' i.e. the ["CITY" of The] District of Columbia." But, the court held otherwise and wrote, "THIS ARGUMENT IS UNAVAILING [is an amateur legal theory]. Section 3002(15) [discussed above] defines 'United States ONLY for purposes of 28 U.S.C. § 3001...', which governs 'federal debt collection procedure'. IT DOES NOT DEFINE THE 'UNITED STATES' AS A FEDERAL CORPORATION FOR PURPOSES OF TAX LAWS [much less as a private for-profit corporation], NOR DOES IT CIRCUMSCRIBE [means "LIMIT"] THE COURT'S JURISDICTION. [citing] Kubicki v. United States [the case directly above], ... '[the subject statute]... DOES NOT DEFINE THE UNITED STATES AS A FEDERAL CORPORATION FOR PURPOSES OF TAX COLLECTION [mush less a PRIVATE, FOR-PROFIT corporation].'" (at the 15th full paragraph at about 25% through the text).

    10). U.S. v. Smith, http://www.vawd.uscourts.gov/OPINION...-10MJ00061.PDF (RULING AGAINST ALL OF THE DEFENDANT'S AMATEUR LEGAL THEORIES, including his amateur legal theory that the United States is a "CORPORATION". In this case, the court wrote, "... Smith [the Defendant/amateur legal theorist] stated: '... [I]n no way, shape or form am I an employee of the Federal government or am I an employee of the FEDERAL CORPORATION under the United States Code Title 28, Section 28 Section 3002, Subsection 15, Section A [discussed above] where THE UNITED STATES IS A CORPORATION AND IT'S A FOR PROFIT CORPORATION as spelled out there.'" (at the 1st paragraph on page 7 of this case as it appears in this link). But, the court held otherwise and called the Defendant's amateur legal theories, including this one, "OUTLANDISH" and actually required the Defendant to undergo an INPATIENT PSYCHIATRIC EXAMINATION (a psychiatric evaluation while a patient incarcerated in a mental institution). Note: Rod Class has been forced to undergo several such psychiatric examinations for similar reasons.

    11). Joiner v. Perry, https://scholar.google.com/scholar_c...n&as_sdt=40006 (RULING AGAINST ALL OF THE PRISONER'S AMATEUR LEGAL THEORIES, including the amateur legal theory that the United States is a CORPORATION). In this case, a prisoner/amateur legal theorist unsuccessfully sued a North Carolina state official. The court wrote, "He [the prisoner/amateur legal theorist] also testified that 'THE UNITED STATES IS A CORPORATION' to which he holds no 'allegiance', and that therefore the United States may not tax him." (at footnote 3 at the very end of the case). But, the court held otherwise and called the prisoner’s arguments "PATENTLY FRIVOLOUS" and NOT ONLY THREW THE CASE OUT OF COURT, but actually FINED THE PRISONER for making such ridiculous claims.

    12). State v. Hartsoe, https://scholar.google.com/scholar_c...2&as_sdt=40006 (RULING AGAINST ALL OF THE DEFENDANT'S AMATEUR LEGAL THEORIES, including his amateur legal theory that the United States is a "CORPORATION"). In this case, the court wrote, "Hartsoe's [the Defendant's] affidavit was based upon his belief that THE UNITED STATES IS A CORPORATION, which created 'straw men,' fictitious persons separate from real individuals, for each man and woman in order TO CONTROL the people of the United States [something that Dynamo also falsely claims]. Hartsoe [the Defendant] refused to submit to the CORPORATE government and filed his affidavit denying his [own imaginary] 'straw man' or [imaginary] CORPORATE existence." But, the court ruled otherwise.

    13). Miles v. U.S., https://scholar.google.com/scholar_c...2&as_sdt=40006 (RULING AGAINST ALL OF THE DEFENDANT'S AMATEUR LEGAL THEORIES, including his amateur legal theory that the United States is a "CORPORATION"). In this case the Defendant filed what amounted to a Motion For Relief From Conviction. The court wrote, "The grounds [in the Defendant's motion] include... that THE UNITED STATES IS A CORPORATION and does not have the power to prosecute individuals, and that citizens are not subject to statutory jurisdiction under the Constitution [a false claim that Rod Class also makes]." (at footnote 1). But, the court held otherwise and unceremoniously THREW THE CASE OUT OF COURT.

    14). U.S. v. Provost, https://scholar.google.com/scholar_c...2&as_sdt=40006 (RULING AGAINST ALL OF THE DEFENDANT'S AMATEUR LEGAL THEORIES, including his amateur legal theory that the United States is a "CORPORATION"). In this case, the court wrote, "... Defendant [the tax protester] filed a request to answer [the complaint], claiming that he had 'a good faith belief that the UNITED STATES IS A CORPORATION and that there was no parity with the flesh and blood man.'" But, the court ruled otherwise, DENIED the tax protester's request to file a delinquent answer and UPHELD THE DEFAULT JUDGMENT AGAINST HIM.

    15). Maxwell v. Snow, https://scholar.google.com/scholar_c...n&as_sdt=40006 (RULING AGAINST ALL THE TAX PROTESTER'S AMATEUR LEGAL THEORIES, including his amateur legal theory that the United States is a CORPORATION). In this case, a tax protester unsuccessfully sued a U.S. Treasury official and claimed that, "Texas is not part of the United States, and that the United States itself is unconstitutional because it is not a republican form of government"[something we-R-one also falsely claims], that THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS A "CORPORATION", that "the federal government’s jurisdiction is limited to [within] the ["CITY" limits of the] District of Columbia and [to within the borders of] other federally owned lands". But, the court held otherwise and held that such amateur legal theories were "WITHOUT MERIT", "PATENTLY FRIVOLOUS" and "LIKEWISE FRIVOLOUS."

    THE BOTTOM LINE: Note that ALL amateur legal theories (ex: "all governments are corporations") are always EXACTLY BACKWARDS AND OPPOSITE to what the REAL law actually is. There are NO EXCEPTIONS! Amateur legal theories ARE NOT REAL. They are FAKE. They are LIES. Amateur legal theories and the REAL law are the EXACT OPPOSITES of one another. Amateur legal theories are an IMAGINARY ALTERNATIVE to the REAL law that is actually used by the REAL legal system and the ENTIRE REST OF THE WORLD. Amateur legal theories have a 100% FAILURE RATE in court BECAUSE THEY ARE FAKE. They are NOT INTENDED TO WORK and they DO NOT WORK! They never have. They never will. Their SOLE PURPOSE is to attempt to discredit and delegitimize our REPUBLICAN form of government, the ELECTED representatives of "We the People" and to incite hatred and violence against innocent Americans. Nothing more.


    FACT: Just in case you do not already know, all FUTURE DECISIONS on the subject of whether governments are corporations WILL FOLLOW THE DECISIONS SHOWN ABOVE (CALLED "PRECEDENT"). So, the law on this subject will always be the same as reflected in the cases above. https://definitions.uslegal.com/b/binding-precedent/. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precedent. https://dictionary.thelaw.com/binding-precedent/.


    I trust this adequately responds the first portion of your comments.

    All The Best,

    Snoop

    (CONTINUED ON PART 2)


    BONUS LAW: The cases linked to above did not just rule against the amateur legal theory that "all governments are corporations", the cases linked to above ALSO RULED AGAINST EVERY OTHER AMATEUR LEGAL THEORY RAISED IN THOSE CASES. These additional rulings are shown below. (The cases below appear in the same order they appear above.).

    1). Thompson v. Scutt, https://scholar.google.com/scholar_c...n&as_sdt=40006. This case (also linked to above) ALSO RULED AGAINST ALL OF THE FOLLOWING AMATEUR LEGAL THEORIES, all of which are also peddled by Rod Class (AND ALL OF WHICH FAILED HERE): claiming to be a "sovereign" and a "citizen/member of [the]... [his home state] Republic", claiming (under the UCC) to have "superior title and claim over the judgment against... [himself]", claiming that "the court’s use of... [a person's name] in capital letters... refers to a separate or fictitious entity, and is enforceable only against that entity", claiming that "the Michigan statutes under which... [he] was convicted do not apply to... [him] because he is 'sovereign' and not a 'person' within the meaning of those statutes", claiming that the "Michigan laws supporting... [his] conviction [for DUI and DWLS-3RD OFFENSE] violate his constitutional right to travel", claiming that "the state lacked jurisdiction because... [he] has a right to removal under the Foreign Sovereign Immunities Act [as if he was a foreign, sovereign, nation state] and the federal removal statute'' claiming that he "is being wrongfully imprisoned on behalf of another [imaginary] entity [also] called 'CHRISTOPHER BURNELL THOMPSON' [often called the split personality defense]", claiming that his "conviction [for DUI and DWLS-3rd OFFENSE] was the result of fraud and misconduct on the part of the state, the prosecution and defense counsel [as if they forced him to drive drunk—again]", claiming that the state and federal governments are "de facto governments".

    2). DuBose v. Kasich, https://scholar.google.com/scholar_c...n&as_sdt=40006. This case (also linked to above) ALSO RULED AGAINST ALL OF THE FOLLOWING AMATEUR LEGAL THEORIES, all of which are also peddled by Rod Class (AND ALL OF WHICH FAILED HERE): The Plaintiff (an amateur legal theorist) raised, "the relationship between the yellow fringe on the United States flag and ADMIRALTY jurisdiction and the effect of capitalizing the letters of his name. Plaintiff [an amateur legal theorist] ultimately maintains that he does not have a contract with either Ohio or the United States and, therefore, does not have to follow government laws [as if that would make any difference]." In response, the court wrote, "... [F]ederal courts have routinely recognized that such [amateur legal] theories are MERITLESS and WORTHY OF LITTLE DISCUSSION [read that phrase again]. 'Other courts have noted the sovereign citizen theory has been CONSISTENTLY REJECTED...' . [and citing another case which] '... REJECT[ED] AS FRIVOLOUS Defendant's argument that he was a 'private natural man and real person' and therefore not subject to the laws of the United States [and citing another case which] 'REJECT[ED] [this] sovereign citizen argument as FRIVOLOUS and UNDESERVING OF 'EXTENDED ARGUMENT [and finally citing another case which] 'h[eld] that a plaintiff's 'yellow fringe flag' arguments were 'INDISPUTABLY MERITLESS' [meaning amateur legal theories]."

    3). Florance v. Buchmeyer, https://scholar.google.com/scholar_c...n&as_sdt=40006. This case (also linked to above) ALSO RULED AGAINST ALL OF THE FOLLOWING AMATEUR LEGAL THEORIES, all of which are also peddled by Rod Class (AND ALL OF WHICH FAILED HERE): suing a judge despite that the judge cannot be sued under "absolute judicial immunity", filing a fraudulent lien against a judge as if the judge owed money to the filer of the lien, claiming that the eleventh amendment immunizes criminals from prosecution (despite that it actually prohibits suits against states in federal court), claiming that a government officer/official can be "personally liable" for official actions taken under "color of law", suing a prosecutor despite that the prosecutor cannot be sued "absolute prosecutorial immunity", suing a government official despite that the government official cannot be sued under "absolute [government] official immunity" and claiming that a county is a "commercial entity engaged in commerce".

    4). U.S. v. Petersen, https://scholar.google.com/scholar_c...n&as_sdt=40006. This case (also linked to above) ALSO RULED AGAINST ALL OF THE FOLLOWING AMATEUR LEGAL THEORIES, all of which are also peddled by Rod Class (AND ALL OF WHICH FAILED HERE): claiming that the entire federal government (rather than merely the CITY of Washington, D.C.) has no jurisdiction outside the borders of the CITY of Washington, D.C., claiming that the Act of 1871 (which created a CITY government for Washington, D.C.) converted the ENTIRE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT (something entirely different) into a commercialized, PRIVATE, FOR-PROFIT CORPORATION, claiming that the United States is a "foreign state" inside the borders OF ITSELF, claiming that the 11th amendment (which actually prohibits lawsuits against STATES in FEDERAL court) immunizes all criminals from prosecution, claiming that the professional title, "esquire" (a servant of a knight in battle) is a title of "NOBILITY" (a HEREDITARY title for those BORN OF "NOBLE" BLOOD, like the "KING" or "QUEEN"), claiming that the use of the professional title, "esquire" converts American attorneys into "agents of a foreign government", claiming that the "bar association" (referring to the ABA) is a monopoly, claiming that certain federal statutes were never enacted into positive law and claiming that judges have a "financial interest" in their cases.

    5). U.S. v. Wiggins, https://scholar.google.com/scholar_c...n&as_sdt=40006. This case (also linked to above) ALSO RULED AGAINST ALL OF THE FOLLOWING AMATEUR LEGAL THEORIES, all of which are also peddled by Rod Class (AND ALL OF WHICH FAILED HERE): claiming that the case is subject to "MARITIME & ADMIRALTY JURISDICTION" in a case that does not actually involve maritime or admiralty, not "consenting" to the law or to the court's jurisdiction (as if that would make any difference), refusing to "stand under" the court's questions, claiming that his name is "his government name" and not his real name, purporting to file a CIVIL "counterclaim" against the government in a CRIMINAL case (which is impossible), attempting to disqualify a judge for a "personal interest" in case and for practicing law, claiming the imaginary right to be represented by a non-lawyer and attempting to use an "attorney in fact" as a substitute for an "attorney at law".

    6). Kitchens v. Becraft, https://scholar.google.com/scholar_c...n&as_sdt=40006. This case (also linked to above) ALSO RULED AGAINST ALL OF THE FOLLOWING AMATEUR LEGAL THEORIES, all of which are also peddled by Rod Class (AND ALL OF WHICH FAILED HERE): claiming that there is "no lawful money for the payment of debts" because of the "[imaginary] national bankruptcy of 1933" and because of the "abolition of the gold standard", claiming that there is a "secret state of war" that exists between THE 'FEDERAL UNITED STATES,' WHICH IS A 'FEDERAL CORPORATION', and the people of the several states, claiming that "Federal Reserve Notes are not legal tender", claiming to be a "secured creditor" in a case which has NO "CREDITORS" AT ALL ("secured" or otherwise) and which imaginary "creditor" has no collateral allegedly "securing" the imaginary debt, claiming that "the Supreme Court has determined that all codes, rules, and regulations are for government authorities only, and not [for] human beings in accordance with God's laws", claiming that "all codes, rules and regulations are unconstitutional and lack due process", claiming that "the supreme law of the land is the Constitution for the united States, and not the Constitution of the United States [pretending that there are two different Constitutions]", claiming that the only "lawful money of the Constitution for the united States is gold or silver coin of specific fineness and weight [a Constitutional provision actually applies ONLY TO THE STATES and not to the United States itself]", claiming that "the only lawful jurisdiction of a de jure common law court is under the American flag of peace, and not the Vice ADMIRALTY Court, military jurisdiction, which the Magistrate is treasonously imposing", claiming that "the only lawful jurisdiction is under common law, and not under vice ADMIRALTY, as signified by the U.S. battle flag with gold fringe and eagle on the flagpole currently displayed within the CORPORATE de facto court," claiming to have already "lawfully exercised his remedy" under Public Law 73-10 by "redeeming his birth certificate bond" and "captur[ing] his [imaginary] straw man", claiming "not [to be] a party or signatory to, nor being named in, any statute, code, law, or rule, nor having the provided power of attorney to any government agent or employee to enter him into such compacts” (as if that would make any difference), claiming to be exempt from all laws except those to which he voluntarily assents (as if individual "assent" is required) and claiming that a "military tribunal exercising ADMIRALTY jurisdiction, lacks jurisdiction over his claims, which jurisdiction may only be exercised by a constitutional common law court under the American flag of peace."

    7). U.S. v. Beavers, https://scholar.google.com/scholar_c...n&as_sdt=40006. This case (also linked to above) ALSO RULED AGAINST ALL OF THE FOLLOWING AMATEUR LEGAL THEORIES, all of which are also peddled by Rod Class (AND ALL OF WHICH FAILED HERE): claiming that "CAPITAL LETTERS" refer only to CORPORATIONS and not to "flesh and blood persons", claiming that the court is just a division of THE UNITED STATES CORPORATION and therefore lacks jurisdiction, playing the "name game" as a defense ("split personality" and "corporate fiction" verses "flesh and blood" persons), claiming that the ”name game" can deprive the court of jurisdiction, doing the following in a futile effort to avoid the court's jurisdiction, denying citizenship, claiming sovereign citizenship, claiming foreign citizenship, claiming freeman status and claiming that the IRS is really a private, for-profit, Puerto Rican CORPORATION.

    8). Kubicki v U.S., https://scholar.google.com/scholar_c...n&as_sdt=40006. This case (also linked to above) ALSO RULED AGAINST ALL OF THE FOLLOWING AMATEUR LEGAL THEORIES, all of which are also peddled by Rod Class (AND ALL OF WHICH FAILED HERE): putting property owned by the tax protesters into the names of other people in an effort to avoid paying taxes, claiming that IRS tax laws do not apply outside the borders of Washington, D.C. and other federal territories, claiming that "wages are not income" for purposes of U.S. income tax laws, claiming sovereign and foreign state immunities as a defense and denying citizenship in an effort to avoid the jurisdiction of the court.

    CASE 9-15 (ABOVE IN THE TOP LIST OF CASES) DID NOT MAKE ADDITIONAL RULINGS OF THE TYPE LISTED IN CASE 1-8 HERE.

    FACT: Just in case you do not already know, all FUTURE DECISIONS on these same amateur legal theories WILL FOLLOW THE DECISIONS SHOWN ABOVE (CALLED "PRECEDENT"). So, the law on these same subjects will always be the same as reflected in the cases above. https://definitions.uslegal.com/b/binding-precedent/. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precedent. https://dictionary.thelaw.com/binding-precedent/.


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