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    Quote If anyone comes across other interviews done by Royce Christyn, please
    do post them — not to promote the story, but just because it's more research
    information about all this.

    There does not seem to be much about him other than his previous career
    and even less about Commander z other than his twitter account.......


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    Tonight, we discuss the testimony of a former high-ranking NATO military official -
    using the pseudonym 'Commander Z' -- he blows the whistle on an inevitable and
    planned global nuclear conflict designed to bring about a One World Government in
    the year 2018. With access to classified documents, Commander Z has revealed the
    5 locations that will be safe in the coming nuclear war. He says: "My book offers an
    urgent warning to families -- moms, dads, sons and daughters -- to prepare for the
    inevitable. Without my book and the critical information it contains, you will have
    little chance of survival." -

    Commander Z is a former high-ranking NATO officer with decades of experience
    working in top secret programs. He is also a trained remote viewer. He has come
    forward to tell his story, and share with the world the contents of over 100 pages of
    top-secret classified documents he was shown. These documents contained
    incredible and astonishing secrets about our world, our universe and plans for an
    upcoming nuclear war and takeover.

    B i o
    Royce Christyn is a ground breaking film producer, actor, writer and director.
    Christyn found success on such hit teen comedies as Nickelodeon's "Drake & Josh"
    and "Zoey 101," which starred now country star Jamie Lynn Spears (the younger
    and equally talented sister of Britney Spears). Christyn is perhaps best well known
    in the acting world from his portrayal of "Manny", Selena Gomez's "magic made"
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    One of his proudest accomplishments is his documentary film, "Out In The Open,"
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    the top Amazon.com LGBT documentary films of all time. Since 2014, Christyn has
    been a contributor to news outlets such as In Touch Weekly, Life & Style, Closer,
    Contrast, and Paste Magazine. His interest in the paranormal, UFOs, and ("The
    other side" is where his heart is - he suffered an NDE at the age of 16 which has
    led him on a path of discovery of the world that sits outside of what is
    considered 'normal'.

    Royce Christyn

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    Default Re: Apocalypse soon? The interesting story of 'Commander Z'

    They mentioned a war initiated by China on US soil, at 21:30 minute mark. I thought that was interesting if you tie that to an article written by a Chinese general back in 2005. Tha article is still available on Rense: http://www.rense.com/general85/China...nToConquer.htm

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    After listening to part one there is much that ties into the current memes
    going on. David Icke has been saying for a long time that when all the 2012
    hype was on that he saw nothing happening and that 2016/7/8 was the time
    frame he saw possible change. With this in mind he started his on going world
    tour in 2016 and after a break to write his latest book will be continuing it until
    there is no more interest or he tires out.....

    2016..... gave us Brexit and Trump which gave some..... 'A New Hope'

    2017..... has seen deepstate backlash as .....'The Empire strikes back'

    2018.....financial chaos ? & catastrophic war ?..' The Return of the ---- ? '

    Of course many other events are going on leading to different interpretations,
    predictions and timelines. With all this its constant speculation until something
    happens and the cycle continues. Will Commanders Z's predictions come true ?
    Trump seems to have been compromised . The Neo con/dem agenda is continuing
    with the usual suspects of countries still being demonised which includes China.
    Charlottsville, North Korea creating fear and chaos . Remote Viewing ? some swear
    by it others say its BS. So who knows ? As usual more questions than answers.

    Impeachment , mental illness the mainstream are going after Trump...

    General Kelly Moves To Control ALL Information Trump Sees - He Is Now A Virtual
    Globalist NeoCon Captive
    read more..
    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/0...control-241967

    https://www.davidicke.com/category/265/war-and-terror

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    Quote Posted by AuCo (here)
    They mentioned a war initiated by China on US soil, at 21:30 minute mark. I thought that was interesting if you tie that to an article written by a Chinese general back in 2005. Tha article is still available on Rense: http://www.rense.com/general85/China...nToConquer.htm
    That article reads like a propaganda piece George Soros would commission to stir up anti-Chinese rhetoric.

    Quote Therefore, we must do everything we can to promote our relationship with America, learn from America in all aspects and use America as an example to reconstruct our country. Only by using special means to 'clean up' America will we be able to lead the Chinese people there. Only by using non-destructive weapons that can kill many people will we be able to reserve America for ourselves.
    The article also talks about using non-destructive weapons to wipe out Americans so the Chinese can colonise the continent, nuclear warheads wouldn't be conducive to that goal. I'd really question the validity of this article. I'd be surprised if it was legit.

    China are fully engaged in building their One Belt, One road project...the shift of power is swinging to the East and the only thing that can stop them from becoming a dominant force in the newly emerging multipolar world is a nuclear war. The Anglo-Saxon mission should really be called the Anglo-Saxon wet dream. It's going to take something extremely drastic for the momentum to stop swinging to the East. China just have to sit it out and wait for the West to implode (which it's fully in the process of doing) the fall of Rome all over again. Any war nuclear war will have to be initiated by the west for this reason, and I really don't see them pulling it off.

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    Default Re: Apocalypse soon? The interesting story of 'Commander Z'

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    Well, that's an absolutely dreadful piece of shoddy, shameless, cheap commercialism.

    That might well just be his publishers, but FAIL.

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    Alot of this information follows what the ETs quetzal , Ptaah, Sfath , told Edward Meier starting in 1942 ... China will be the new super power, Russia and China align and attack America, which will make the U.S. a country of total destruction ... The North American continent will suffer the greatest natural disaster that will reach proportions barely imaginable to human beings ... The secret military has advanced craft that are mistaken for UFOs ... They (the watchers) said the revolutionary rays of the sun hitting us unobstructed would cause a speeding up of knowledge, and the human dormant abilities ... it would be prudent for everyone to have a months worth of food stored, 200 dollars cash on your person all the time , along with a small pocket knife, flaslight, etc ... The final step, a PLAN of what you will do, where to go, how to navigate, when or if some or all these predictions come to fruition ...
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    The fact that Royce is a Hillary Clinton supporter red flagged me.
    If you are a journalist with any true skill and diversified outlook....you would
    Know she helped rapists get off their charges as a lawyer and that she is undeniably a part of dodgy world dealings and pedophilia.
    His ignorance on this one person devalued the whole story for me.
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    Quote Posted by Jayke (here)
    I agree with bearcow, very suspicious. I mean at 22 minutes in, did he say China would be the initiator of the nuclear war? Seriously? That defies all reason, it'd be more believable to hear Corey Goode and his crew of blue avians being initiators of a nuclear war, for China to start it would be suicide. Everyone outside of the U.S.A, who've been watching the coup against Trump unfold and the geopolitical shifts taking place around the rest of the world, realises that the only people desperate to start a nuclear war are the neocon crazies in Washington. China are masters of the long game, reserved and patient, it's highly unlikely they'd be drawn into making such a desperate move.
    I believe this wholeheartedly and why not? The communist People's Republic of China Body Count is about 73,237,000 and China still has a brutal human rights record. They are aggressive towards Taiwan and recently India.

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    I believe this wholeheartedly and why not? The communist People's Republic of China Body Count is about 73,237,000 and China still has a brutal human rights record. They are aggressive towards Taiwan and recently India.
    Recently India? Are you referring to the dispute between the border of India, Bhutan and Tibet? William Engdahl gives good insight into the machinations of the "Chinese Agression" (stirred up and spun by Washington and Tel Aviv by the sounds of it)...

    Quote Whatever was privately agreed between Modi and Washington in June as well as with Tel Aviv in early July, it was in this time frame that the Doklam dispute erupted in the Indian decision to send troops to forcibly intervene against Chinese construction teams on the sensitive border zone between China, Bhutan and India in the Tibetan plateau.

    For its side, China is citing a letter by former Indian PM Jawaharlal Nehru to Chinese Premier Chou En-Lai in 1959: “This Convention of 1890 also defined the boundary between Sikkim and Tibet; and the boundary was later, in 1895, demarcated. There is thus no dispute regarding the boundary of Sikkim with the Tibet region,” the letter read. China has also cites a reference of May 10, 2006, besides the 1890 convention and the 1959-60 letters which says, “Both sides agree on the boundary alignment in the Sikkim Sector.” China publicly claims also that it “notified” India about the road building as a “goodwill” gesture.

    At this point the real issue is not the validity or non-validity under international law of the Chinese arguments. All surrounding the recent Doklam dispute between China and India suggests the dark hand of Washington and Tel Aviv in cahoots with the Modi government to use the confrontation to sabotage the progress of China’s huge and developing One Belt, One Road infrastructure project by attempting to foster another US-instigated proxy war.
    http://www.williamengdahl.com/englishNEO11Aug2017.php

    I'm not sure if this is the right video below, but while watching a short documentary on China's planned mega structure projects, the engineers understood that in order for China to become a dominant force in a multipolar world, an entire generation of Chinese youth needed to be sacrificed (which is the mindset of communism in general). I'd suggest that now those megastructures are well underway and being built, what you see in China now more closely resembles capitalism than communism (communism by name, capitalism in practice)...either way, you don't plan and build projects like these if there's an intention of committing suicide by instigating a nuclear war with the worlds greatest superpower.



    I'm not saying China is full of zen master buddhas floating around on lotus flowers guiding the hand of their government to a new and immediate golden age of cultural enlightenment. Just that China is forward thinking, sophisticated and savvy enough not to get drawn into making brash, idiotic decisions that would jeopardise all life on the planet (unlike the rabid warhawks of Washington and tel aviv who are demented and arrogant enough to think they can emerge victorious from such a war).

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    Quote Posted by Jayke (here)
    Quote Posted by chris_walker (here)
    I believe this wholeheartedly and why not? The communist People's Republic of China Body Count is about 73,237,000 and China still has a brutal human rights record. They are aggressive towards Taiwan and recently India.
    Recently India? Are you referring to the dispute between the border of India, Bhutan and Tibet? William Engdahl gives good insight into the machinations of the "Chinese Agression" (stirred up and spun by Washington and Tel Aviv by the sounds of it)...

    Quote Whatever was privately agreed between Modi and Washington in June as well as with Tel Aviv in early July, it was in this time frame that the Doklam dispute erupted in the Indian decision to send troops to forcibly intervene against Chinese construction teams on the sensitive border zone between China, Bhutan and India in the Tibetan plateau.

    For its side, China is citing a letter by former Indian PM Jawaharlal Nehru to Chinese Premier Chou En-Lai in 1959: “This Convention of 1890 also defined the boundary between Sikkim and Tibet; and the boundary was later, in 1895, demarcated. There is thus no dispute regarding the boundary of Sikkim with the Tibet region,” the letter read. China has also cites a reference of May 10, 2006, besides the 1890 convention and the 1959-60 letters which says, “Both sides agree on the boundary alignment in the Sikkim Sector.” China publicly claims also that it “notified” India about the road building as a “goodwill” gesture.

    At this point the real issue is not the validity or non-validity under international law of the Chinese arguments. All surrounding the recent Doklam dispute between China and India suggests the dark hand of Washington and Tel Aviv in cahoots with the Modi government to use the confrontation to sabotage the progress of China’s huge and developing One Belt, One Road infrastructure project by attempting to foster another US-instigated proxy war.
    http://www.williamengdahl.com/englishNEO11Aug2017.php

    I'm not sure if this is the right video below, but while watching a short documentary on China's planned mega structure projects, the engineers understood that in order for China to become a dominant force in a multipolar world, an entire generation of Chinese youth needed to be sacrificed (which is the mindset of communism in general). I'd suggest that now those megastructures are well underway and being built, what you see in China now more closely resembles capitalism than communism (communism by name, capitalism in practice)...either way, you don't plan and build projects like these if there's an intention of committing suicide by instigating a nuclear war with the worlds greatest superpower.



    I'm not saying China is full of zen master buddhas floating around on lotus flowers guiding the hand of their government to a new and immediate golden age of cultural enlightenment. Just that China is forward thinking, sophisticated and savvy enough not to get drawn into making brash, idiotic decisions that would jeopardise all life on the planet (unlike the rabid warhawks of Washington and tel aviv who are demented and arrogant enough to think they can emerge victorious from such a war).
    But what if China is provoked? It's plain to see the West is demonizing the country, as it has with other nuclear nations.

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    Quote But what if China is provoked? It's plain to see the West is demonizing the country, as it has with other nuclear nations.
    There's more than one way to skin a cat LadyM, and a nuclear bomb would certainly be overkill, no need to incinerate a cat when it just needs to be skinned.

    As Sun Tzu would say: "The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting.”

    Or in the words of Buckminster Fuller: “You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete.”

    China's One Belt, One Road project is the project that subdues the USA without the need to fight and also creates a model of trade and cooperation that makes the existing model of slavery and subjugation obsolete.

    When I get some extra time I'll start a thread that demonstrates how what we're seeing in geopolitics in the world today is just a macrocosm cycle of microcosm dynamics that have been studied for decades within the field of organisational psychology. We might be in for a rough ride for sure, the American deep state will pull out all the stops to prevent the OBOR project from taking shape...but nuclear war next year initiated by china...not impossible I suppose but highly unlikely imo

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    according to Simon Parkes/Britsh mayor/telepath the mantids are the most friendly of the ET groups (contrary to the interview)- you go figure it out- I'm still working on it-

    Larry

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    Quote But what if China is provoked? It's plain to see the West is demonizing the country, as it has with other nuclear nations.
    There's more than one way to skin a cat LadyM, and a nuclear bomb would certainly be overkill, no need to incinerate a cat when it just needs to be skinned.

    As Sun Tzu would say: "The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting.”

    Or in the words of Buckminster Fuller: “You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete.”

    China's One Belt, One Road project is the project that subdues the USA without the need to fight and also creates a model of trade and cooperation that makes the existing model of slavery and subjugation obsolete.

    When I get some extra time I'll start a thread that demonstrates how what we're seeing in geopolitics in the world today is just a macrocosm cycle of microcosm dynamics that have been studied for decades within the field of organisational psychology. We might be in for a rough ride for sure, the American deep state will pull out all the stops to prevent the OBOR project from taking shape...but nuclear war next year initiated by china...not impossible I suppose but highly unlikely imo
    Yes, please ... start a thread. There are so many twists and turns, and sometimes I give up on trying to understand why this or that is happening in a specific country.

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    While arguing about the authenticity of the man, it is easy to forget what he is trying to convince us. It is in the title but with a point missing. The point is the world is facing apocalypse, AND this apocalypse will be started by China with a nuclear first strike on the US.

    The propaganda nature of this prediction/warning is obvious. It creates great fear, especially in the US. China is greatly vilified. Perhaps the only justification that this prediction can happen is that he was able to predict the exact Super Bowl score. This extraordinary ability is familiar among many so called “whistleblowers”. On this basis, it might just be possible that China would nuke the US out of existence. Fear is created and fear often excludes rational thinking. Anyone who knows a little contemporary world politics knows that the US has no compunction about making a nuclear first strike on any country and it is their military doctrine ever since they possess atomic weapons. On the other hand for decades China promised not to be the first user of nuclear weapons in war.

    A fugitive who has taken time to write a book that indicts China for a future crime on humanity is rather suspect, but this coincides with the increasing vilification of China since Trump is in office.
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    Quote Posted by Cardillac (here)
    according to Simon Parkes/Britsh mayor/telepath the mantids are the most friendly of the ET groups (contrary to the interview)- you go figure it out- I'm still working on it-

    Larry

    They took Dr. Turner, she pretty much spelled out their negative roles.
    I would think Turner would trump Simon.
    Just my opinion.


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    I've always had the habit of reading these suspense-type release books from the back to the front. In case anyone is interested about the 'safe locations' they use as a teaser, its on the last page and a half of the book.

    Quote Posted by Z, Commander. (2017). Total Annihilation: 2018 A.D. Prepare For Global Nuclear Conflict, 2nd Ed. Van Allen & Mabach Publishing House, UK: pp. 104-105.

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    Quote Two things had captured my attention:
    1. The prediction of the Superbowl score. (A little hard to explain!)
    2. The correlation with The Anglo Saxon Mission (and other similar plausible material I've encountered).
    I've NOT read the book, but I actually would like to.

    If anyone comes across other interviews done by Royce Christyn, please do post them — not to promote the story, but just because it's more research information about all this.
    Gosh, I wish I could give you my copy, but it's digital.
    Bill, in your awesome interview with Richard Dolan you stressed the importance of whistleblowers identifying and credentialing themselves, and when I heard that, I immediately thought of why this book was so bogus to me. Commander Z does not credential himself in any way nor does he identify himself. Also he claims he remains anonymous because he fears for his life, yet communicates with Hollywood types. I cannot believe in this day and age that any intelligence agency, especially an advanced one, could not locate him instantly. Notice he is willing to risk the lives of the front men he puts out, assuming this is true (which I don't).

    Regarding the super bowl, I have heard that the scores are fixed in advance. I don't find this hard to believe at all and it was immediately what came to mind when I read the prediction.

    I think like any good disinformation, there are parts that are true so one swallows the bad bits with it.

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    Default Re: Apocalypse soon? The interesting story of 'Commander Z'

    Note in that Super Bowl (SB 51) that New England was a 3 or so point favorite and the over/under was in the high 50s (58.5, 59, etc.). So 34 - 28 was not all that far off the actual point spread and total.

    To pick the exact score is certainly eyebrow raising, but the score he predicted was also a smart choice. Note also that 28 is a key number and 34 is close to a key number for a total near 60.

    Just to try and get an idea of what the odds were, I did a search and found this site -

    http://www.lasvegassportsbetting.com...ds_P16328.html

    What is quite odd about this list is that it offers 280 different Exact Score combinations. Yet New England to win 34-28 is not on the list!

    The odds they would miss that is probably bigger than the odds that it landed new england to win 34-28.
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    Default Re: Apocalypse soon? The interesting story of 'Commander Z'

    I agree that it reads like common a garden fear porn or propaganda against China. That being said, I thought it noteworthy that it was published in the UK and not the US, as such no record will ever be kept in the library of congress, where ALL books published in the US have to have at least one copy. Probably nothing, but thought it an interesting side note...x... N

    PS. The beginning of chapter one starts with a quote from Tennyson - "A lie that is a half-truth is the darkest of all lies."
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    Yeah Nasu, did anybody of you check how much Money China has invested in America. It´s massive and gigantic. You are not gonna blow up what you already own parts of, right?
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