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    Default Re: JFK DOCUMENTS RELEASED: the public has the truth at last

    Trump did not have the courage to go in all the way. In the last second before releasing all the files Mr. Trump gave in to the CIA and the FBI which had been telling him to hold back the interesting files. So much for Trump.

    Der Spiegel:
    Quote In the US, secret records were published about the assassination of US President John F. Kennedy, but not to the extent expected. In the night to Friday, US President Donald Trump literally bowed to security services at the last minute: According to government officials, CIA, FBI, and other services demanded not to publish some of the files and to edit them beforehand.

    Upon order of trump, the National Archives now published 2891 documents. For the review and processing of the rest, he set a time limit of 180 days. Trump wrote in an order that he had no choice but to accept such a procedure for the time being. It is about the security of the country.
    Yeah yeah, bla bla bla ...

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    Quote The title of this thread: Corbett Report....25th year declassification of JFK conspiracy aproaching 26th 0ct 2017 // Meet Oswald

    Hasn't it been 55 years?
    Yes....

    Its since 1992 when the documents were classified again after they had finnished in
    the wake of the Oliver Stone movie for a further 25 years , hence the window for
    Trump which obviously has caught them off guard and a large order for black
    marker pens..




    President John F. Kennedy Assassination Records Collection Act of 1992
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presid...on_Act_of_1992

    S.3006 - President John F. Kennedy Assassination Records Collection Act of 1992
    102nd Congress (1991-1992)

    https://www.congress.gov/bill/102nd-...nate-bill/3006

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    All the mainstream news run up reports from ABC,NBC ,CNN I've seen have all had
    guests or reports saying there is nothing explosive in these docs like a second/third
    shooter , but maybe something embarrassing... Just like this BBC clip.

    What will top-secret JFK files reveal? - BBC News



    Published on 26 Oct 2017
    Classified documents on President Kennedy's assassination are due to be released.
    What will we learn? Philip Shenon, author of A Cruel and Shocking Act, told the BBC
    about what he'll be looking for.
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    http://edition.cnn.com/2017/10/26/po...hts/index.html

    Quote The US government released over 2,800 records Thursday night in an effort to comply with a 1992 law mandating the documents' release, but kept roughly 300 files classified out of concern for US national security, law enforcement and foreign relations. In a memo, Trump directed agencies that requested redactions to re-review their reasons for keeping the records secret within 180 days.
    180 days and counting..

    Some more info:
    http://edition.cnn.com/2017/10/26/po...hts/index.html

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    Quote Posted by uzn (here)
    Trump did not have the courage to go in all the way. In the last second before releasing all the files Mr. Trump gave in to the CIA and the FBI which had been telling him to hold back the interesting files. So much for Trump.
    I doubt if courage, or the lack thereof, had much if anything to do with it. More than likely he's still discovering that the Great Power of the President of the United States and Leader of the Free World is nothing more than a Fabricated Illusion.

    Quote Posted by Harley (here)
    Remember, the CIA and all agencies that possess an interest in the sensitive information found in the document[s] can still, with special permission, keep documents which are more than 50 years old classified if they concern human intelligence sources or weapons of mass destruction.
    Harley

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    Quote Posted by Wind (here)
    Main culprits behind it according to the remote viewers at Farsight Insitute were J. Edgar Hoover and George H.W. Bush acting as his lackey. Will the public ever get to know that? Probably not as this world is shrouded with secrecy and lies. There was a conspiracy behind Bobby Kennedy's murder like there was a conspiracy behind MLK's murder too. Mostly if not always they are related to the government or to institutions such as CIA and FBI. If people - including american citizens knew how much lies they have been spoonfed over the decades... There would be a revolution before tomorrow morning.
    Seems you are right. Thought this was interesting, this from the BBC -

    "Some redacted documents are undergoing a further six-month review, but it is possible those records could stay secret after the deadline on 26 April next year. The president, according to White House officials, was reluctant to agree to agency requests to hold the remaining documents.

    "I have no choice - today - but to accept those redactions rather than allow potentially irreversible harm to our Nation's security," Mr Trump added in his memo."

    hmmmn, few things I could think of could be so bad as to need to be kept from the public to prevent irreversible harm to the nation's security.... N
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    Linda Moulton Howe's take:


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    Trump delays release of some JFK documents , Lou Dobbs speaks to Sebastian
    Gorka and he says there is only one reason for delay , embarrassment....
    and to stick a finger up to Trump. Julian Assange says its an attempt by
    the deep state to make the President look weak.



    Published on 26 Oct 2017...Lou Dobbs Fox news
    Former Deputy Assistant to President Trump Sebastian Gorka discusses the Trump
    dossier and President Trump delaying some of the JFK documents.

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    Larry Sabato on JFK files: The good stuff has been held back

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsdczsH6vYQ

    Published on 26 Oct 2017
    'The Kennedy Half-Century' author reacts to document release on 'The Story'.

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    Secret JFK Files, Released, John F Kennedy, Assasination Files

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    JFK Assassination Files, Over 2800 Just Released, October 26th 2017, Look

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bfNeopLAHY

    Published on 26 Oct 2017
    JFK Assassination Files, Over 2800 Just Released, October 26th 2017, Look
    https://www.archives.gov/research/jfk...

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    This is the Reason President Trump Isn't Releasing the JFK Files



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    English newspaper ‘tipped off’ 25 minutes before JFK assassination, documents show
    Andrew Cheetham ...D.Icke.com.

    RT NEWS....

    English newspaper ‘tipped off’ 25mins before JFK assassination, documents show
    Published time: 27 Oct, 2017 08:52
    Edited time: 27 Oct, 2017 13:20

    English newspaper ‘tipped off’ 25mins before JFK assassination, documents show

    John F. Kennedy in a convertible on November 19, 1963, just days before his assassination. © Tampa Bay Times / Global Look Press

    A reporter for the Cambridge Evening News received a call telling him to ring the
    US embassy for “big news” just 25 minutes before John F. Kennedy was shot dead.
    The revelation emerged in fresh documents released by the US government on
    Thursday night. According to the memo, police reported the call to the British
    intelligence service. Britain’s domestic intelligence agency MI5 then is understood
    to have pledged to support “in every way possible” any investigation in the UK
    relating to Kennedy’s murder.

    The memo, signed by CIA deputy director James Angleton, reads: “The caller said
    only that the Cambridge News reporter should call the American Embassy in
    London for some big news and then hung up.

    “After the word of the President’s death was received the reporter informed the
    Cambridge police of the anonymous call and the police informed MI5.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5QJO9Hkxlk

    “The important point is that the call was made, according to MI5 calculations, about
    25 minutes before the President was shot.


    © Victor Hugo KingFBI & CIA left Trump ‘no choice’ but to delay long-awaited JFK assassination docs
    “The Cambridge reporter had never received a call of this kind before, and MI5
    state that he is known to them as a sound and loyal person with no security record.”

    The memo said it was not the first time in the past year that people in the UK had
    received similar anonymous calls which were “strangely coincidental in nature.”
    They seemed to have been particularly linked to the “case of Dr. Ward” –
    potentially a reference to ‘Dr.’ Stephen Ward, one of the central figures in the
    Profumo affair, a spy/sex scandal which had rocked the British establishment earlier
    that year.

    The US government released 2,800 classified files on the assassination of JFK on
    Thursday night.President Donald Trump said the public deserves to be “fully
    informed” of what happened, given the event has been the subject of various
    conspiracy theories. Some documents, however, were withheld at the request of
    government agencies over national security concerns.

    Kennedy was shot dead on November 22, 1963, in Dealey Plaza, Dallas, Texas,
    while riding in his presidential motorcade. Former US Marine Lee Harvey Oswald
    was charged with his murder. Oswald himself was shot dead two days later by
    nightclub owner Jack Ruby before he could stand trial.

    read more...https://www.rt.com/uk/407926-cambrid...ampaign=chrome

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    Confirmed CIA had many plots to kill Castro....respect to the conspiracy bloggers.

    JFK files reveal CIA plots, Oswald's Cuba connection



    Published on 27 Oct 2017
    More than 2,800 government files connected to the assassination of President
    John F. Kennedy have been made public. Presidential historian Doug Wead
    joins CBSN to explain the newest revelations.

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    Dr. Michael Baden on what we could learn from JFK files

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifO9CAwFhXY
    Published on 27 Oct 2017
    Forensic pathologist and Fox News contributor investigated President John F.
    Kennedy's assassination.

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    Classified files related to JFK's assassination released

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEmVAySQG2c
    Published on 27 Oct 2017
    Fox News contributor Dr. Michael Baden explains on 'Fox & Friends First.'

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    MSNBC are blaming Trump for everything as usual.....

    US Releases Most John F. Kennedy Assassination Files But Delays Others | Morning Joe | MSNBC
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysWXz5pL_fs
    Published on 27 Oct 2017
    The National Archives published nearly 3,000 previously sealed or censored
    documents related to the JFK assassination , but the WH said it was delaying the
    release of others. The panel discusses.
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    About an hour ago my time, I was watching " The Daily Briefing" Hosted by Dana Perino and her guest was Former Cia director James Woolsey. In the interview he admitted Oswald Did Not act alone and he said he was KGB.

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    It's been reported by Roger Stone and various other news outlets that Trump is furious at Cia director Mike Pompeo for not releasing the entire JFK files.
    The Deep State may think they have won but Trump still has another play...

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    Quote Posted by Nasu (here)
    "I have no choice - today - but to accept those redactions rather than allow potentially irreversible harm to our Nation's security," Mr Trump added in his memo."
    When I saw that quote, I substituted a few words for clearer reading:

    Quote "I have no choice - today - but to accept those redactions rather than allow potentially irreversible harm to our Deep State," Mr Trump added in his memo."
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    CIA Mutinies Against Trump, Refuses To Release 300 files JFK Documents



    Published on 27 Oct 2017
    2,800 records relating to the assassination of John F. Kennedy were released
    by the National Archives yesterday, but more have been held back and will be
    reviewed during a 180-day period.

    ==============================================

    INSIDER: Deep State Withheld JFK Files To Sabotage Trump Transparency

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALyKHaXeVUA

    Published on 27 Oct 2017
    Roger Stone joins Alex Jones live via Skype to expose the motives behind the
    deep state as they withhold approximately 300 JFK files from the President,
    so he appears less transparent to his base

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    JFK assassination files released by Trump

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FG5EczIJ5R0
    Published on 27 Oct 2017
    Presidential historian Doug Wead on President Trump releasing once-classified files
    on the assassination of President John F. Kennedy.
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    Why CIA and FBI doesn't want the most crucial files to be released? Because they were BEHIND the killing of JFK! An issue of national security my ass...
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    This is an interesting segment on Oswald's so called shooting skills.

    Straight Shooting: Oswald’s “Marksmanship”



    Published on 27 Oct 2017..
    Real News with David Knight
    CBS tried to prove it was possible. The Warren Commission
    did too. But Oswald was not capable of doing what
    “the lone shooter” was supposed to have done.

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    Gov Connally Didn’t Believe Official Story

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBJfkNu64YI

    Published on 27 Oct 2017...Real News with David Knight
    A stunning revelation as Gerald Celente recounts his discussion with Gov Connally
    just before he died. It was the first time the governor had returned to scene of the
    assassination in about 30
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    Quote Posted by Wind (here)
    Why CIA and FBI doesn't want the most crucial files to be released? Because they were BEHIND the killing of JFK! An issue of national security my ass...
    Exactly and thank you Wind!

    I think Harley is right on point with his statement "I doubt if courage, or the lack thereof, had much if anything to do with it."

    I heard Vladimir Putin say something a couple weeks ago that all presidents like, Obama and Trump go in wanting to make these positive and necessary changes. After an American president enters office, Putin went on to explain how they are approached by Men in Black suits with black ties or navy blue ties and it's back to the same old agenda. Vladimir's statement is starting to carry more weight with me because I wasn't entirely convinced that Hillary wouldn't be in jail by now. He said a lot of other things that led me to believe he had a pretty accurate bead on things and would LEAD the Free World into a beginning if not more. I remember a post by Matt Pennery then detailing all of these critical things Trump was saying.

    Now I'm leaning towards uzn, "So much for Trump."

    I suppose I wasn't expecting a different outcome with this president, but I was hoping for one.

    Muxfolder, I'm an optimistic guy so I'm going to mark that hundred and eighty days on my calendar. I have a feeling there will be more solid black than white on any "released" documents.

    Final thought:

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    JFK files: FBI anxious to 'convince public' about Oswald

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    Thousands of previously classified documents relating to the assassination of
    President John F Kennedy in 1963 have been released by the US government.
    As people examine all 2,800 files, here are the most interesting points so far. NB
    many files contain unverified raw intelligence.

    FBI concerned about conspiracy theories

    In a memo written the day Oswald was killed, FBI director J Edgar Hoover
    expressed concern about the spread of conspiracy theories.

    "The thing I am concerned about is having something issued so that we can
    convince the public that Oswald is the real assassin," he said.

    Oswald spoke to a KGB officer

    A memo from the CIA, based on an intercepted phone call, suggests Oswald spoke
    with a KGB officer at the Russian embassy in Mexico City.It says that on 28
    September 1963 he spoke with Valery Vladimirovich Kostikov, an "identified KGB
    officer" who worked for a department "responsible for sabotage and assassination".
    Oswald later called the embassy and, in "broken Russian", asked if there
    was "anything new concerning the telegram to Washington".

    What will top-secret JFK files tell us about Kennedy's killer?

    FBI warned police to protect the killer

    Lee Harvey Oswald, who shot and killed President Kennedy, was quickly arrested
    and charged. But two days later Oswald was shot dead in the basement of the
    Dallas police department by Jack Ruby, a local nightclub owner.

    But could more have been done to protect him?

    One memo reveals the FBI had warned Dallas police of a death threat made against
    Oswald.FBI director J Edgar Hoover said: "We at once notified the chief of police
    and he assured us Oswald would be given sufficient protection. However, this was
    not done."

    A British nurse was in the Dallas hospital when JFK was shot

    Kennedy's death worried the USSR

    The idea of a leaderless United States did not appeal to some Soviet officials.
    They "were fearful that without leadership, some irresponsible general in the United
    States might launch a missile at the Soviet Union", according to one memo.
    It also says the Soviets were "convinced the assassination was not the deed of one
    man" but rather a "carefully planned campaign in which several people played a part".

    RFK's 'Marilyn Monroe suicide plot'

    The FBI warned the president's brother, US Attorney General Robert F Kennedy, his
    alleged affair with Marilyn Monroe would be exposed in a book.

    A letter on 7 July 1964 from the bureau to the younger Kennedy said the
    paperback, The Strange Death of Marilyn Monroe, would allege he had "an intimate
    relationship with Miss Monroe".

    Marilyn Monroe died at the age of 36 in Los Angeles in August 1962 from a
    barbiturate overdose.Monroe died at the age of 36 in Los Angeles in 1962
    According to the FBI, the author would suggest the film star "was led to believe his
    intentions were serious" and that RFK had promised to divorce his wife and marry
    the sex symbol.But when he refused to do so, Monroe "threatened to expose their
    relationship" and ruin his presidential ambitions.

    The FBI said the book would allege that RFK took "drastic action" by plotting to
    have Monroe killed and make it look like a suicide.The letter advised RFK the book
    would also allege he was at her apartment on the night of her death.Agents wrote
    that RFK "was actually in San Francisco with his wife at the time Marilyn Monroe
    committed suicide".The actress died at the age of 36 in Los Angeles in August 1962
    from a barbiturate overdose, according to the city coroner's office.

    Private detectives tried to spy on Kennedy

    An FBI memo from before Kennedy was elected president describes attempts by a
    private detective to spy on the then senator.It says a "high priced Hollywood call
    girl" told FBI agents that private detective Fred Otash had contacted her to ask
    about Senator Kennedy's involvement in "sex parties".

    JFK's bodyguard explains to Radio 4's Today how he 'was just a few steps short' of
    saving the presidentThe private detective also suggested equipping the woman
    with "a recording device" to take down any "indiscreet statements" from Senator
    Kennedy. She refused, and said she was unaware of any "indiscretions".

    British paper received an anonymous call

    One memo describes how a British local newspaper, the Cambridge News, received
    an anonymous call about "some big news" in the US, just 25 minutes before the
    assassination."The caller said only that the Cambridge News reporter should call
    the American embassy in London for some big news and then hung up", it says.
    A copy of the memo was released by the National Archives in the US in July, but
    had gone unreported.

    Was a US president in the Ku Klux Klan?

    An FBI report alleges that President Lyndon B Johnson, who took office after
    President Kennedy was killed, may have been a member of the KKK.

    An informant said the white supremacist group had "documented proof that
    President Johnson was formerly a member of the Klan in Texas during the early
    days of his political career".

    However, no proof was provided.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41774066

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    Fond memories of Lee Harvey Oswald
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-24945209


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    JFK & 9/11: UK Forewarned By Someone



    Published on 27 Oct 2017
    Just revealed: a UK newspaper was called 25 minutes before the JFK assassination
    & told to “call the American Embassy in London for some big news” then the caller
    hung up, just as we saw the BBC reporting that Building 7 had fallen before it
    happened (with it visible over the reporter’s shoulder).
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    Quote Posted by Wind (here)
    Why CIA and FBI doesn't want the most crucial files to be released? Because they were BEHIND the killing of JFK! An issue of national security my ass...
    Exactly and thank you Wind!

    I think Harley is right on point with his statement "I doubt if courage, or the lack thereof, had much if anything to do with it."

    I heard Vladimir Putin say something a couple weeks ago that all presidents like, Obama and Trump go in wanting to make these positive and necessary changes. After an American president enters office, Putin went on to explained how they are approached by Men in Black suits with black ties or navy blue ties and it's back to the same old agenda. Vladimir's statement is starting to carry more weight with me because I wasn't entirely convinced that Hillary wouldn't be in jail now. He said a lot of other things that led me to believe he had a pretty accurate bead on things and would LEAD the Free World into a beginning if not more. I remember a post by Matt Pennery then detailing all of these critical things he was saying.

    Now I'm leaning towards uzn, "So much for Trump."

    I suppose I wasn't expecting a different outcome with this president, but I was hoping for one.

    Muxfolder, I'm an optimistic guy so I'm going to mark that hundred and eighty days on my calendar. I have a feeling there will be more solid black than white on any "released" documents.

    Final thought:


    Another final thought:


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    When "The Agencies" use the term National Security to justify classification of information,

    Is it really:

    For the protection of the state and its citizens from any perceived or potential enemies?

    Or is it:

    For the protection of "The Agencies" from any perceived or potential threat from it's citizens?

    It's really a matter of Semantics, now isn't it?
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    It really is Harley and I've also noticed it's really silly.

    They know and they also know most of us know yet they lead. So few that lack a moral compass, so they hold this thin veil over many. We keep lifting while more and more are peaking.
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    But "they" are experts at dragging it out with their own obstruction of the truth

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