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    @ happyuk - I agree 100% -

    Merkel really played an interesting game in later showing that everything she did that night was "legal" (when opening the borders).

    This is what came out during the treason claims against her:
    In order to be granted asylum =, asylum seekers have to apply and register with legal papers at the border she stated. (of course nobody did register the masses, nor did they have legal papers - for whatever "reason") - according to Merkels argumentation within in the started treason claims, she stated that there was a so called ministry allowence from the ministry of the interior that did include the command / order to not control papers at the border. Most people here believe that it did ever exist ...
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    Quote Posted by Baby Steps (here)
    Quote Posted by no questions (here)
    I want to repeat the question by SPIRAL. WHY did she / Merkel did invite these migrants? As we know now, the german parliament was not asked and there seems to be no legal foundation for this action when I refer to Udo Di Fabio judge at the federal constitutional court.

    So WHY did she took this risk and what might be the plan, or is there a plan?

    Merkel did recieve the Coudenhoven Kalergi Price and was happy about that. So why was she happy about that? And who is Coudenhoven Kalergi?

    The "PAN-EUROPÄISCHE MANIFEST" was written by him and it today feels and reads like a blueprint what happens right now and might explain why Merkel is acting against the will of the majority of the Germans and against the majority of the Europeans.
    Greetings. I do see similarities in that a back lash against excessive immigration has destabilised the right, and although not ejecting the main right party, it has weakened their position, and empowered the divisive far right thinking. The scene in Germany has been destabilised.

    I always thought that Merkel's approach was an error with regard to this issue for the following reasons:

    1. The right in all countries includes people who are racist or have a defensive or exclusionary view of their genes or culture. I have heard such arguments from embattled indigenous leaders, for example the Maoris, who wish to preserve their race, culture and language, and of course, we applaud this. When you have a large diverse society like Uk, and increasingly Germany, if immigration is done in an insensitive, excessive way, it inflames those groups, and some more balanced thinkers advise caution for this reason.

    2. The people arriving in Germany are mostly NOT Syrians and Libyans. They are other victims of the same evil western destabilisation in the Middle East & Africa, who come because said destabilisation has facilitated it.

    3. Many of the people arriving are the MORE ABLE, ones who could scrape the money together to move & travel. Ones who have a chance of employment in Europe, because they possess valuable skill sets, that Countries like Syria have invested in. So a BRAIN DRAIN.

    4. It would have been better, if desiring to help refugees, to take the most vulnerable out of the camps surrounding Syria, and within the country.

    5. Merkel's open door policy caused an exodus that has inflamed all countries between Germany & the Middle East. They are suffering from crime, camps, fences, etc and this is feeding an Anti German and Anti EU feeling.

    So if one believes that a shadowy elite are manipulating this for secret and dastardly reasons, surely they are taking risks with their EU project. Even with their strategy to use Germany to build their super state. It is a dangerous strategy for them.

    The video above details the thinking of some of the uber-elite 'National Socialists' who are driving the EU project. 'National', of course, being the EU state that is being built. It really is very old fashioned thinking. It reminds me of my visit to the KunstNaturlische Museum in Vienna in 1983, when one could see clear echoes of the bizarre Racial 'science' prevalent among the more Nazi of the Darwinists. Rooms full of pictures and measurements of skulls, faces etc.

    The idea is to build the super state by creating a blue-blood/Jewish elite , ruling a mongrel 'negroid' European population. Presumably they thought that the mongrels would make an easily dominated slave race for them. This thinking is nonsense in terms of genetics, and culture. When you mix genes and culture, you unleash Hybrid Vigour dynamism. Crossing human races tends to upgrade the genetic quality, as it is a stronger mechanism for removing in bred recessive poor genes, weaknesses or mutations. The concept of hybrid vigour is main stream genetic science. I also, as a Londoner, love cultural diversity, which through cross fertilisation produces wonderful things. Just listen to the music of Nitin Sawhney, for example.

    So is the strategy under-pinning the Euro Super state, using race a lie , or a mirage?

    I do not think so, I believe a different process is going on, and this uncontrolled in flow IS part of the strategy.

    What I think is happening is that there is a multi pronged strategy to build the Euro Super state, as a powerful bloc to serve the interests of the dark elite. The economic dimension is well known. Throughout European history, when a group of Nations forge a larger grouping, usually through conquest, the results are economic boom. This is because business and the state are able to reduce their own overheads, such as tariff infrastructure, rules and regulations, currency exchange etc. This is what Europe is experiencing. It is the same, fundamentally, as what happened when the larger European nations were built from other smaller, now forgotten nations. Who remembers Savoy, Wessex, Prussia etc?

    On the cultural front something similar happens. So far so good. But how do the refugees fit in?

    David Icke has mentioned the Nation State, as has the yucky Steve Bannon. We are facing the cultural, legal, and economic assassination of the established European Nation States. To make way for the new one. This, in itself is not sinister. People should and must have the ability to build new structures and change their own social order as they see fit.

    However what the EU is asking us to do is relinquish the existing National structures, which generally include a (weak and faulty) set of democratic checks and balances, transparency, defences against corporate tyranny etc. The structure we are being offered DOES NOT include even these minimal protections. The European Parliament is a puppet show for snowflakes.

    It has little or no sovereignty, and does not produce legislation. It ratifies legislation produced by an unaccountable bureaucracy
    The poor snowflakes see the fluffy socialistic EU as similar to their own governments. Look - the EU will never allow nasty neonicotinoids, or US style warmongering. My point is that there are no mechanisms to prevent these horrors in the future EU superstate. It needs reforming. If you want to give away your protections, make sure you build better ones at the EU level.

    How do the refugees fit in?

    The racial part of Coudenhove Kalergi can be discredited. However the psi-op to destroy any positive perception of the nation State within the minds of the people is well under way. If you destabilise the German Democracy, people will turn to the EU. If you kill the idea of German Culture, the superstate is strengthened. This is the strategy being employed. It is the creation of World Citizens under non democratic blocs.

    So far, I see the strategy as faulty. The UK experience is that the new arrivals come in and their cultures are celebrated. The arrivals often come from poor states, and have greater respect for the national Institutions than the people already there! The UK's cultural and racial diversity is making the UK a better place. So I would hope that the Germans, who are very unlikely to ever leave the EU, concentrate on reforming it. But NOT IN A MACRON WAY!
    @ Baby Steps - thank you very much for these interesting insights.

    I would like to raise the awareness to focus on the question if there is one side or two interest groups acting against each other?
    I mean - one side meaning one global elite/ dark elite -
    - or two sides playing against each others, meaning a US elite against the global elite/ dark elite or global predictor.

    the global predictor with the goal to install one world gov.
    the US elite wants to destabilize the EU thus in a way working against the global predictor/dark elite establishing a EU superstate
    we do not remember days, we remember moments ...

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    Default Re: German Election 2017 a Brexit 2.0 Situation?

    Hi, no questions I like your thinking.

    In my view it is an error to look on dark-side manipulation as integrated, mono-polar or united.

    Witnesses talk of factions not least in Bill Ryan's brilliant interview of a British Gangster (which I cannot find). Its a hierarchy, so people higher up can play divide and rule, and , as is usually done, exploit division and conflict.

    For us poor foot soldiers the human temptation is to look for one group or another and conclude that they are 'the bad ones'. We do not really know enough to make these judgements, but it is very important for humans to stand up and resist brutality, tyranny etc.

    There is a faction in the USA that Trump/Bannon appear to be aligned with, that is anti-EU. They then trumpet fake nationalist claptrap, and look to break up the EU. What do the corporate lobbies hate about Europe? It has the size to negotiate trade with the USA on equal terms. This presents huge benefits for EU citizens , that the corporate world wishes to strip us of:

    - We cannot be dictated to about which drugs to buy, use, or prices
    - We can opt out of GMO's which are principally designed to sell extremely toxic pesticides, fungicides, herbicides
    - We can fight against the trend for domiciling profits off-shore and outside of tax
    - We can challenge huge corporates who avoid tax in many different ways.

    so does that make the EU the 'good guys'? No, but the psi-op that they are has some meat to it. Anything that strips what little democracy we have away from us is undesirable. Throughout history the dark-side has been a bag of ferrets (ie fighting amongst themselves) The forces of global tyranny have plans to exploit whatever happens. They love it when we get fanatical about one faction or another of their own minions.
    we have subcontracted the business of healing people to Companies who profit from sickness.

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    Default Re: German Election 2017 a Brexit 2.0 Situation?

    Well said, Baby Steps! It really gets complicated when one tries to figure it all out! I guess it's a "step" in the right direction to be able to recognize a little of what is REALLY going on!

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