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    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toront...ales-1.4298311

    The above is an article about marijuana legalization in Ontario, Canada.

    It shows how out of touch the bureaucrats are about the pot industry as it stands today. Those that consume marijuana in its current illegal capacity are not going to spend more for pot than they are now spending. And that price point is well below the $10/gram price point the bureaucrats are spouting.

    For example: my price point per gram for my most recent purchase, of a quality the buraucrats can only wish for, cost me $2.80/gram! That's right, an ounce for $100!
    The oil, which will not even be part of legalization, cost more: $11/gram.

    My point is that government, since it is a group of uncreative, parasitic, authority-hungry, unproductive, greedy, ivory-tower neophytes, will screw up this initiative just like they make a disaster out of everything they touch.

    The black market won't even take a hit; they will keep on like they always have. And the true masters of pot, the ones that did the research, learned the trade, and mastered the crossing of strains to produce some of the greatest weed on earth have not been consulted - like usual the ones that know the most are exactly the ones the government ignores as if they don't even exist!

    Shame on the government for its monetization of marijuana. It is a crime to make pot an expensive, merely recreational stimulant when it is so obviously more than that.
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    As is the case here the experts are the ones who have never been there and done that.

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    There are other important issues with legalization.

    For one, policing and upholding pot laws. Marijuana cannot be tested for levels of saturation, unlike alcohol. This means that the litmus test that will be used to test for the presence of marijuana in the system can only give a positive or negative reading. It cannot tell the level of impairment. Couple that with the proposed standard 3-day suspension and $500 fine and we have a great potential for unjust verdicts. Refusal to submit to swabbing will result in the driver's car being confiscated, double the fine and one month in jail! Sound fair? You might not have smoked since the night before or even the morning before but residuals in the saliva would still register a positive reading! If you don't agree to be tested you get thrown in jail, we don't even do that to drunks. Or you might have to go to the nearest clinic for a blood test.

    The repercussions for selling without a license will result in severe penalties still to be hammered out, but even here there is a major issue. Since the public will be allowed to grow their own dope, many citizens will routinely have large quantities of processed cannabis in their possession, about 8 ounces (one plant can produce about 4 ounces, average, maximum yield depends on season and strain, 16 ounces plus can be attained). Most dealers have less quantity on hand, around 4 ounces for a small time dude. How will the police know who is selling and who merely has just their own legal harvest on hand?

    The other consideration is exactly what is the effect of marijuana? Does it impair function like alcohol so obviously does? Is it safe to assume the worst and over-regulate to err on the side of caution? This is the fed's stance. Especially in the states where cannabis is a class A substance along with heroine and angel dust. Even cocaine is rated lower there. So where are the comprehensive studies to support their assumption. And while we're at it where are the numerous health benefit studies? Should a beneficial substance like cannabis be monetized and withheld from mass consumption due to income?

    The way the feds are going about all this seems to be to trivialize the great beneficial effects of cannabis to both physical and psychological health. That is of major concern. Marijuana is not just a recreational drug, it is an inexpensive miracle health supplement and should be treated as such. Emphasis on inexpensive. Toss some seeds out the window of your car into the ditch in spring and come back in early fall to a half dozen mature plants ready for harvest! That is how easily cannabis grows. It is a weed - like dandelions here in North America, they cannot be stopped because they are marvellously adaptable and extremely hardy plants. But like the dairy market, they aim to control the production and then control the price.

    Finally, consumables. The consumable market is a contentious issue as it crosses into the jurisdiction of health Canada, a very powerful and influential arm of government. So for now consumables are off the table along with other derivatives like oil, hash and crystal. Many people cannot smoke marijuana for various reasons, and a safe alternative in a consumable form would serve those folks well. In many cases these are the very people that cannabis could help with the alleviation of symptoms and even a return to a healthful state. It is also useful for those that are wasting away from disease as it improves overall mood, reduces nausea and increases appetite. It is imperative to keep the overall price down if for no other reason than this.

    As it stands today, the legalization of marijuana is merely a cash grab from those with the means to afford it and a psi-op to discredit or trivialize the health advantages of this already marginalized plant.

    As my friend says, "What do you care, you have access to the best dope on the planet - from anywhere on the planet?" He's right. It won't affect me in the least. But I am a product of this society and I feel it is my duty to at least try and help make clear and rational decisions based on the good of all.
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    Hemp/Cannabis is a revolutionary solution to so many things. It is a testament to the corruption of the world that it is illegal. It is a miracle plant, I use it every day for many purposes.
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    Medical use cannabis has been legal here in California since 1996. I never gave it a thought until I hurt my back and was in a wheel chair for nearly a month before having surgery. I am extremely sensitive to chemicals and mostly to pharmaceuticals. I couldn't handle the side effects of all the drugs pushed on me in the hospital, even refusing some. It was recommended I try MMJ. I got a referral and was issued a license to use and grow. It was a miracle! I was able to sleep through the night without pain! It has been basically my only medicine for a little over 2 years now.

    When it was put to a vote to legalize it for adult use I voted NO because I didn't want my meds to be taxed! So now in order to avoid paying tax on my meds I grow it. I was blessed with the cannabis growers bible for Christmas last year and have really gotten an education about the many strains and uses and effects of the sacred plant.

    With trial and error over the past 2 years I finally figured out my proper dose for daytime pain and night time pain. My error a few times was taking too much and having to just wait out the over dose...whew! sure glad it isn't lethal. I don't like being high. Apparently my brain isn't wired for being high. So my go to for daytime is Harlequin which is high CBD, low THC. At night I use a blend of both. I grow and make my own medicine. I have had to buy from my dispensary several times but since I live on Social Security I can't afford to buy what I need for maintenance.

    At the moment I am growing in my yard. I can't afford to grow indoors under lights. Now my city officials think they can ban outdoor growing (we'll see about that) and they want to have everyone who does grow to be inspected on a regular basis(we'll see about that too) I'll not have "officials" trekking in and out of my personal domain to check on my crops! I guess I'm feeling my personal liberties diminishing by the day! I don't like being told what I can and cannot do on my own private property.

    This is my longest rant on this forum so I'll stop here.

    P.S. the only way I see changes being made in this area is if we make them ourselves...which I am doing on a personal basis.
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    Not sure I did this right. The truth is out there and needs to get to the public. Start the video from the beginning. It is a terrific interview with Rick Simpson.
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