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    Watch the first video in the series for background:



    They use 33 gematria in symbolic movies.

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    So E=22 sometimes (when it suits), and E=5 at other times (when it suits).

    This is the kind of craziness that makes normal people avoid the so-called alternative community like the plague.
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    So E=22 sometimes (when it suits), and E=5 at other times (when it suits).

    This is the kind of craziness that makes normal people avoid the so-called alternative community like the plague.
    Did you watch all three videos, or at least the first and the third? The basic charts are laid out. They are put out before the interpretations. You can use them in the future to test them. The new Cloverfield movie is coming out on Groundhog Day of 2018. That might be a good place to start, if one needs predictions to be convinced. If you dont believe it now, use the methodology in the future, and see what it brings.

    E=22 in Reverse gematria with the EP exception. 11 and 22 are the exception numbers. They are K and V in the standard method, and E and P in the Reverse method. This is the root of the cereal "Special K". K is special in gematria because it equals 11.

    If you watch the videos in full, you dont even need the gematria to be convinced. The symbolism overlaps and is repeated. They will continue to repeat it.
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    Nobody ever wondered why Groundhog Day was used as the setting for this movie?

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    From Cinema Symbolism 2 by 32° Freemason Robert W. Sullivan IV:
    "Occult casting is when filmmakers employ a specific actor or actress because of a film (or films) they've appeared in, thereby esoterically investing the new film with that performance, and it related themes and symbolism... These actors and actresses appear in certain films because of their cultural valences, thereby creating an occult construct within an occult construct; their casting is witty, but the motivation is esoteric in nature." - p. .xxiii.

    "This author stresses that esoteric symbolism is, most often, intentionally placed. However, like everything in life, there is an exception to every rule." - p. x.


    "Carpenter's film also employs gematria: the assignment of number values to letters to forge an occult relationship and/or to convey an occult meaning and/or agenda within the words or phrases." - p. xvi.

    "Cinema can also be prophetic: Thomas "Neo" Anderson's passport expires (or dies) on September 11, 2001, seemingly anticipating the terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon. The Matrix reference is particularly disturbing considering the film is about beginning and end, death and rebirth. During the opening credits of 2000's The Patriot, Benjamin Martin's (Mel Gibson) handmade wood rocking chair weighs exactly 9 pounds 11 ounces. When he sits on it, the chair collapses causing Martin to come crashing down. The horrors of September 11, 2001, can also be found in 1981's Escape from New York where an Al-Qaeda-like terrorist organization called the National Liberation Front seeks to strike a blow against American imperialism by crashing an airliner-Air Force One-into lower Manhattan. September 11, 2001, can also be found in the pilot episode of The Lone Gunmen (original airdate 4 March 2001) which involved a government conspiracy to hijack a commercial airliner, fly it into the World Trade Center, and blame the act on terrorists to gain support for a new profit-making war." - p. xv.

    "Numbers aside, traditional Masonic symbols that mysteriously appear in film are the sun; the pentagram representing the Egyptian Dog Star Sirius qua Isis, all-seeing eyes denoting masonic Deism and omnipresense, and masculine solar pyramids all have esoteric contextual meaning in most (not all) films. The lessons, allegorical emblems, and philosophies of both the Blue Lodge (Entered Apprentice, Fellowcraft, and Master Mason) and High Degrees can also be found in film." - p. LXVIII.

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    So E=22 sometimes (when it suits), and E=5 at other times (when it suits).

    This is the kind of craziness that makes normal people avoid the so-called alternative community like the plague.
    Not sure why you felt it necessary to take a shot at me, Bill. It is the patterns that go along with the numerology that make it believable. Taken by itself, it might seem nutty, but with the other symbolism in these movies, it becomes hard to ignore, if you know what to look for.


    From Math for Mystics by Renna Shesso:
    "Some traditions consider 11 a "master number" that should not be reduced." - p. 147.

    "Some traditions consider 22 a "master number" that should not be reduced." - p. 154.

    The idea of not reducing rep-digits is well-known in numerology. What might be considered more controversial is the use of Reverse English gematria. Evidence of the use of this system can be found in the names of many characters and actors in symbolic movies.

    The special letters are K and V in standard gematria and E and P in reverse.

    E always equals 5 in standard English gematria. In Reverse, it is 22. In Reverse Reduction, it is (2+2=)4, or it can remain 22 while all the other letters are reduced. All the math is shown in the videos. There are only four basic charts, plus the exception letters, which are used less frequently. They dont mix the forward and backwards methods while calculating the value of an individual word or name.

    There is a KV Virius in I Am Legend. There is a character named Pepe in the gematria-heavy Broken Flowers. These names use only the exception letters and are a nod to the use of gematria.

    I quoted a 32° Freemason above who admits they use symbolic actors, gematria, and Masonic symbolism in movies. Is he "crazy"?

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    From Cinema Symbolism 2 by 32° Freemason Robert W. Sullivan IV:
    "Occult casting is when filmmakers employ a specific actor or actress because of a film (or films) they've appeared in, thereby esoterically investing the new film with that performance, and it related themes and symbolism... These actors and actresses appear in certain films because of their cultural valences, thereby creating an occult construct within an occult construct; their casting is witty, but the motivation is esoteric in nature." - p. .xxiii.

    "This author stresses that esoteric symbolism is, most often, intentionally placed. However, like everything in life, there is an exception to every rule." - p. x.


    "Carpenter's film also employs gematria: the assignment of number values to letters to forge an occult relationship and/or to convey an occult meaning and/or agenda within the words or phrases." - p. xvi.

    "Cinema can also be prophetic: Thomas "Neo" Anderson's passport expires (or dies) on September 11, 2001, seemingly anticipating the terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon. The Matrix reference is particularly disturbing considering the film is about beginning and end, death and rebirth. During the opening credits of 2000's The Patriot, Benjamin Martin's (Mel Gibson) handmade wood rocking chair weighs exactly 9 pounds 11 ounces. When he sits on it, the chair collapses causing Martin to come crashing down. The horrors of September 11, 2001, can also be found in 1981's Escape from New York where an Al-Qaeda-like terrorist organization called the National Liberation Front seeks to strike a blow against American imperialism by crashing an airliner-Air Force One-into lower Manhattan. September 11, 2001, can also be found in the pilot episode of The Lone Gunmen (original airdate 4 March 2001) which involved a government conspiracy to hijack a commercial airliner, fly it into the World Trade Center, and blame the act on terrorists to gain support for a new profit-making war." - p. xv.

    "Numbers aside, traditional Masonic symbols that mysteriously appear in film are the sun; the pentagram representing the Egyptian Dog Star Sirius qua Isis, all-seeing eyes denoting masonic Deism and omnipresense, and masculine solar pyramids all have esoteric contextual meaning in most (not all) films. The lessons, allegorical emblems, and philosophies of both the Blue Lodge (Entered Apprentice, Fellowcraft, and Master Mason) and High Degrees can also be found in film." - p. LXVIII.
    If you spent time to search Masonic taboo as hard as numeric delirium You would find it only Scottish tradition apply 32 degree

    The Scottish Rite is one of the two branches of Freemasonry in which a Master Mason may proceed after he has completed the three degrees of Symbolic or Blue Lodge Masonry. The other branch is known as the York Rite, consisting of Royal Arch Masons, Royal and Select Masters, and Knights Templar. The Scottish Rite includes the degrees from the 4° to the 32°.

    The use of the word “Scottish” has led many Masons to believe that the Rite originated in Scotland. There was also a false belief which persisted for many years, that a man had to go to Scotland to receive the 33°. Neither of these statements is true.

    Actually, the first reference to the Rite appears in old French records where the word “Ecossais,” meaning Scottish, is found. During the latter part of the 17th Century, when the British Isles were torn by strife, many Scots fled to France and resumed their Masonic interests is that country. It is believed that this influence contributed to the use of the word “Scottish.”

    In 1732, the first “Ecossais,” or Scottish Lodge, was organized in Bordeaux, one of the oldest and most influential Masonic centers in France. The membership included Scottish and English Masons. The years 1738-40 saw the formation of the first “Hauts Grades” or advanced degrees. In 1761, certain Masonic authorities in France granted a patent to Stephen Morin of Bordeaux to carry the advanced degrees across the sea to America. In 1763, Morin established these degrees in the French possessions in the West Indies. What he established consisted of a system of 25 so-called higher degrees which flourished in France, and which were known as the “Rite of Perfection.”

    There is no conspiracy you can just buy ($2000) 32.degree.

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    Nobody ever wondered why Groundhog Day was used as the setting for this movie?
    And
    • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groundhog_Day_(film)

      [Screenwriter Danny] Rubin first conceived of the dating aspect for the film, "being able to use your superior knowledge to pick up women", which led to the film to lean more into the comedy side.[5] He knew he needed some calendar date to use for the day, and his earlier concept had the character reliving a late January day over and over; when he looked at his calendar, he saw Groundhog Day, February 2, as a date with great potential as a recognized holiday but that had little fanfare, which the film could be played annually similar to Christmas or Halloween specials. Groundhog Day also presented Rubin with the idea of being able to take his character out of his home town into the unfamiliar territory and relative isolation of Punxsutawney, and cementing the character being named Phil in honor of Punxsutawney Phil, as well as making him a weatherman.[5][4] Rubin took about seven weeks to fix the basic concepts and "rules" for the time loop in the film, and then completed the first draft of the screenplay within three to four days.[5]
    Specifically:

    Looking through your 169 posts, the majority are all about occult symbolism. You have a great deal of obsessive interest in that.

    A little balance may be needed! Not everything is symbolic... quite a few things do just kinda happen, all on their own.
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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

    A little balance may be needed! Not everything is symbolic... quite a few things do just kinda happen, all on their own.
    blackdog,

    Maybe Start by listening to this interview between Danny Rubin (screenwriter of Groundhog Day) and Anthony Peake (British Scientist and Author)

    Anthony Peake has stated that Groundhog Day has influenced his work more than any other film.

    While Danny has stated that Anthony Peake has been the only one to explain to him his own work.

    A fascinating 55 minute conversation.

    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/theh2on...-groundhog-day

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    If you spent time to search Masonic taboo as hard as numeric delirium You would find it only Scottish tradition apply 32 degree
    The amount of time I have spent reading about Masonry is substantial. You are reciting the standard lines. These are cliches. 33 is the number of vertebrae in the spine. Its significance is not exclusive to Freemasonry.

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    [Screenwriter Danny] Rubin first conceived of the dating aspect for the film, "being able to use your superior knowledge to pick up women", which led to the film to lean more into the comedy side.[5] He knew he needed some calendar date to use for the day, and his earlier concept had the character reliving a late January day over and over; when he looked at his calendar, he saw Groundhog Day, February 2, as a date with great potential as a recognized holiday but that had little fanfare, which the film could be played annually similar to Christmas or Halloween specials. Groundhog Day also presented Rubin with the idea of being able to take his character out of his home town into the unfamiliar territory and relative isolation of Punxsutawney, and cementing the character being named Phil in honor of Punxsutawney Phil, as well as making him a weatherman.[5][4] Rubin took about seven weeks to fix the basic concepts and "rules" for the time loop in the film, and then completed the first draft of the screenplay within three to four days.[5][/LIST]
    I am well aware of the mainstream stories. I'd suggest they are either lies or half-truths at best. The fact remains that we are talking about a long string of coincidences running through many different movies. I'd also suggest you spend a little more time looking at the first video in depth. It is only partially about gematria. There's no denying that Tom Hanks is shown standing in front of a picture of the Pentagon or that the dog Hooch is introduced in a scene that refers to 2001: A Space Odyssey.

    Quote Looking through your 169 posts, the majority are all about occult symbolism. You have a great deal of obsessive interest in that.

    Not everything is symbolic... quite a few things do just kinda happen, all on their own.
    Just trying to spread the word about topics I specialize in. All the occult symbolism is related and is telling the same story. I think it is important to understand this story. Once the basic levels are grasped, you can see it repeated everywhere. As I keep saying, all the symbolism keeps overlapping and eventually confirms itself.

    There's no denying that Groundhog Day is the 33rd day of the year. The second part of this series talks about Cloverfield and 10 Cloverfield Lane. The latter is overwhelmingly Masonic. The next Cloverfield movie was supposed to come out in October, but they recently announced its release has been moved back to Feb. 2, 2018. That's Groundhog Day. The 33rd day of the year.

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    blackdog,

    Maybe Start by listening to this interview between Danny Rubin (screenwriter of Groundhog Day) and Anthony Peake (British Scientist and Author)

    Anthony Peake has stated that Groundhog Day has influenced his work more than any other film.

    While Danny has stated that Anthony Peake has been the only one to explain to him his own work.

    A fascinating 55 minute conversation.

    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/theh2on...-groundhog-day
    I would suggest you read a book like Cinema Symbolism by Robert Sullivan. Or The Origin and Evolution of Religion by Albert Churchward.

    You can get mainstream stories anywhere. These videos provide a different interpretation. If the real story is hidden, they are not going to explain it in public interviews.
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    They even made a movie called The 33. Like 10 Cloverfield Lane, it is set underground to allow for the symbolic journey up to the light above ground.

    The number of miners was not significant. They focus on it for symbolic reasons.

    The miners were brought up in Fenix capsules. Fenix, as in the mythological pheonix which is a symbol of cyclical rebirth. Groundhog Day is about cycles of time and takes place on the 33rd day of the year. The symbolism overlaps continuously because they are telling the same story in a variety of ways.

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    Occult symbolism exists for sure! Most symbols have been repurposed and ripped off of ancient cultures.

    Am I being "hoodwinked" by the flood of occult symbols and occult analysis in these videos? Well I wouldn't have considered them. I don't think it's real good for my mental health to try to gaze and bathe into the headspace of the psychopaths that are wasting their life's time pushing this crap on the unsuspecting billions.

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    Well put, Joe!!!

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    Quote Posted by JoefromtheCarolinas (here)
    Am I being "hoodwinked" by the flood of occult symbols and occult analysis in these videos? Well I wouldn't have considered them.
    That's an interesting way of putting it. Did you watch part two? They may not be wasting their time, exactly. They may be putting out 'words to the wise', as Manly Hall put it. If you could read the symbolism before 9/11, you may have understood one should "Escape from New York" around the turn of the century.

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    So E=22 sometimes (when it suits), and E=5 at other times (when it suits).

    This is the kind of craziness that makes normal people avoid the so-called alternative community like the plague.
    Not sure why you felt it necessary to take a shot at me, Bill.
    I'm pretty certain that Bill wasn't taking a shot at you. It's just, that for some, seeing an endless repetition of numbers can leave them feeling a little cold, disheartened and inclined to wanting to 'Bang head here.' And then there's that really annoying digitised voice....

    On the other hand, I actually don't mind this subject matter at all as I've had an interest in forms of numerology for some time and there certainly can be patterns discerned. I'll add gematria to my list of things to explore, without being too obsessive

    I'm interested and thanks for sharing - I appreciate that not all will be though
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    Quote Posted by Tintin Quarantino (here)
    On the other hand, I actually don't mind this subject matter at all as I've had an interest in forms of numerology for some time and there certainly can be patterns discerned. I'll add gematria to my list of things to explore, without being too obsessive
    If you are interested in Quentin Tarantino, you might like to know that Pulp Fiction is a symbolic 33-movie.

    I also see that you are a member of a group called Precession of the Equinox. The precession of the equinoxes is at the heart of these videos. I suspect people have not watched all the way through or do not understand the central occult/Masonic story that is being told, which is what makes these videos interesting despite the low production values. 33 gematria is just an indicator that hidden meaning is being relayed.

    At the beginning of Pulp Fiction, Amanda Plummer tells Tim Roth he sounds like a duck. Duck symbolism is explained in part 2 of this series. Samuel L. Jackson calls Roth 'Ringo' at the end of the movie for no apparent reason. This is significant because it likely refers to the ring of history or of precession...or the Great Year...or the circle of twelve zodiac ages. The only person I know named Ringo is Ringo Starr, who brings together the ring and star concepts also explained in these videos.

    The duck reference at the beginning of Pulp Fiction would tell any viewer in-the-know that symbolic material was ahead. The 666 briefcase combination and the Ezekiel quote are also precession or Great Year references.

    Pulp Fiction features a lot of car scenes. Cars are important this symbolism, probably because they have four wheels and can be used as a reference to the wheel of history or the four beasts, which are associated with wheels at the beginning of the book of Ezekiel. When one is driving, they are said to be "behind the wheel". If you look at the picture from the Bill Murray video above, you will see Murray holding the groundhog "behind the wheel". Groundhog Day is about cycles of time. These videos are all about the precession of the equinoxes.

    Clear illuminated pyramid reference in Gary Numan's Cars video.




    Edit: ...and I'm reading an article I found in the Precession of the Equinox group postings which talks about the star Vega and its relationship to precession. Travolta's name in Pulp Fiction is Vincent Vega.

    Vincent=33. Bill Murray=33 was in a movie called St. Vincent.
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    Blackdog,

    Bill didnt take a shot at you, but he did however take a shot at the idea or theory you were giving here. You are not your ideas or thought and one can critique the ideas a person says without actually critiquing the person themselves.

    Do occult things get put out for our consumption? Yes.

    Do the occult people hope that people waste their time endlessly obsessing over supposedly occult symbolism in the mass media? Yes.

    Personally if you are going to obsess over the nitty gritty of things, it is better spend reading things from here https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/...ed-commissions

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    Thank you for an interesting thread! I have often felt that there is something more behind Groundhog day and the freemason symbols fits well, I think, in the matter of man trying to become a better human being. When the lesson is learned, he has found enlightenment - here, also symbolically represented by the male finding his female half (Jungian symbols).

    Concerning what you mentioned about the time wheel, I just found this which might be of interest:

    Quote Danny Rubin was the dude who wrote the screenplay for Groundhog Day and brought it to Harold Ramis to direct. But the two quickly differed in their opinions on how cheery or dark the final movie should be. Danny Rubin originally wrote the script as if Phil Connors were stuck in Groundhog Day for 10,000—count 'em— 10,000 years.

    Harold Ramis, on the other hand, pegged it somewhere around 10. That's a pretty huge difference. But you can see the Danny Rubin darker side come out in the montage where Phil Connors kills himself in a half-dozen brutal ways only to wake up again in his B&B bed.

    In the end, it's probably best that Harold Ramis won out and that Phil's time in Groundhog Day was a long (but manageable) 10 years. At least in this interpretation the movie has a positive spin—we're willing to bet that in Danny Rubin's version Phil would have wound up staring off into space and drooling after being stuck for 10,000 years.

    Oh yeah: Rubin's original script called for the Rita character to start her own time loop after Phil's had ended. But that wouldn't make any sense according to the logic of the film, since Rita is already a good person and would have nothing new to learn.
    from https://www.shmoop.com/groundhog-day/writer.html

    Harold Ramis also co-wrote Ghostbusters and was deeply knowing in mythology and symbols. The creature Zuul and Gozer is actually from sumerian mythology and it took me a long while to find the sources for these characters in a very obscure manuscript, a similar journey to what Ramis would have done at some time. That said, I think Ramis also knew al ot of occult symbology and information, making him and Rubin a very interesting writer´s pair.
    "All of this has happened before, and it will all happen again."
    "The only easy day was yesterday."

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