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    Jefferey Jaxson analyzes info available on Coronavirus as of early 1/30/2020....


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    James Lyons Weiler at 27:22 has evaluated the genome and it LOOKS LAB MANUFACTURED



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    Quote Posted by happyuk (here)
    Your Chance of Developing Symptoms or Dying From the Menacing Coronavirus That Now Threatens Global Human Populations Is 0.0000017482% (symptoms) 0.0000001137% (death)

    This is according to lewrockwell.com

    The article tells us that:

    Quote Yep, the coronavirus is just a common virus that infects your nose, sinuses and upper throat and produces the same symptoms as a cold. But the fear that is being spread by public health authorities and the news media would make one think the earth is in the middle of a historic human pandemic.

    The Coronavirus that is menacing human populations around the globe right now is an RNA virus that is “enveloped” so it resists eradication by one’s own immune system. In a very few subjects who are immune compromised, such as patients taking drugs for autoimmune disorders (Cyclosporine, Prednisone, Methotrexate, Imuran), or youngsters who have undeveloped immunity, or others who are old and have weak immune systems due [to] malnutrition, they may develop pneumonia (drown in their own pus and fluid in their lungs) and be hospitalized, placed on a respirator, or die.

    Just in case you are worried, out of a population of 7+ billion people on Earth, your chance of developing symptoms from this corona-shaped cold virus is ~1 in millions and for death ~1 in hundreds of millions. However, risk dramatically increases with advancing age and among malnourished populations such as in Asia where deficiencies of essential nutrients, namely zinc and vitamins C and D, are often prevalent. Modern medicine casts a blind eye at nutrition.
    It strikes me from this that the corona virus is fear-mongering theatre on a grand scale.
    China is all about face and would not let anyone interfere with their internal matters unless they absolutely believe it is indeed out of their control: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nyt...virus.amp.html

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    Coronavirus update: Vaccine expected in Phase 1 trial within months, WHO to reconvene on Thursday

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/co...day-2020-01-29

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    Quote Posted by yuhui (here)
    Coronavirus update: Vaccine expected in Phase 1 trial within months, WHO to reconvene on Thursday

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/co...day-2020-01-29
    A show of hands who wants to be, say, first in line for some new and rapidly developed vaccine?

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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    I feel, I owe a clarification for Avalon Forum.
    Somebody is cooking something but it can not fit at my table.

    Coronavirus has several types as I mentioned at post#153.



    " WHO (world Health Org) Declares Coronavirus Outbreak a Global Health Emergency"

    Anygiven country at anygiven hospital can diagnose a patient with a coronavirus but it doesn't mean that it is same outbreak, ( subtypes of virus give same symptoms) unless it is proven , it has same (2019-nCoV) oligonucleotide sequence. ( without original biological material it goes "assuming" at scientifically acceptance)


    Facts:
    - Influenza A and B viruses – the primary influenza viruses that infect people – are RNA viruses that have eight gene segments. These genes contain ‘instructions’ for making new viruses, and it’s these instructions that an influenza virus uses once it infects a human cell to trick the cell into producing more influenza viruses, thereby spreading infection.

    -Coronaviruses (CoV) are a large family of viruses that cause illness ranging from the common cold to more severe diseases such as Middle East Respiratory Syndrome (MERS-CoV) and Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS-CoV). A novel coronavirus (nCoV) is a new strain that has not been previously identified in humans.

    Coronaviruses are zoonotic, meaning they are transmitted between animals and people. Detailed investigations found that SARS-CoV was transmitted from civet cats to humans and MERS-CoV from dromedary camels to humans. Several known coronaviruses are circulating in animals that have not yet infected humans.

    -Seasonal influenza is characterized by a sudden onset of fever, cough (usually dry), headache, muscle and joint pain, severe malaise (feeling unwell), sore throat and a runny nose. The cough can be severe and can last 2 or more weeks. Most people recover from fever and other symptoms within a week without requiring medical attention. But influenza can cause severe illness or death especially in people at high risk (see below).

    Illnesses range from mild to severe and even death. Hospitalization and death occur mainly among high risk groups. Worldwide, these annual epidemics are estimated to result in about 3 to 5 million cases of severe illness, and about 290 000 to 650 000 respiratory deaths.
    /www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/influenza-(seasonal)

    I believe, it is a part of organized/ tailored racism. Each moment it goes collective hysteria. Mass media, social media are bombarding desinformation, bias interpretation.(Three Squeaks, bat soup)
    It seems to me it is a deliberate act to create, fanning out malicious panic..
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    There is still a feeling I have that this epidemic is 'Created' and that the real purpose is to give much more power to the UN and WHO. WHO has recently been badly doxed by videos of their high priest mistress of health. Yes people will die and have died from this. But, The NWO is making their move in 2020.

    Do you really want to give up all your rights for the miracle vaccine that will make you safe from the terrible epidemic? I guess we will have to ask ourselves this, and Do you willingly do it?

    Btw over a million and a half people die from car accidents a year, where is the hysteria and fear there? Shouldn't the gov't step in and enforce better cars that can't kill people? Also several of the pictures coming out of China re this are old pictures.
    https://www.infowars.com/photo-of-co...a-stock-photo/

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    Even (2019-nCoV) has several strains.
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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    found this from zerohedge...

    Looks like the Chinese military had the same Bat SARS-like Coronavirus in their possession 2 years ago.

    Here is the NIH page showing Identical Protein Matches of the envelope protein from Wuhan 2019-nCoV:

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/ipg/QHO62113.1

    Notice there are two entries not from the recent Wuhan seafood market outbreak:

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/protein/AVP78033.1

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/protein/AVP78044.1

    Both sequences were provided on 05-JAN-2018 by:

    Institute of Military Medicine Nanjing Command,
    NO. 293 East Zhongshan Road, Nanjing, JangSu 210002, China

    original post from zerohedge comment section : https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitic...a-5c50e2bc702e
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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    The globalists wanted China and the U.S. to team up against Russia. Trump understood correctly that China was the main enemy and therefore a closer union between the U.S. and Russia was essential.
    https://dailyreckoning.com/elites-ha...contain-china/

    don't know but i'm interesting to know what's going on..now US and China work together combat virus.

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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    Would you look at that.

    Study of the coronavirus genetics shows this new found strain may have been engineered and "accidentally" released for vaccine creation.

    On the Origins of the 2019-nCoV Virus, Wuhan, China
    No need to follow anyone, only consider broadening (y)our horizon of possibilities ...

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    Breaking news: China will admit coronavirus coming from its P4 lab

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    Quote Posted by Lawrence (here)
    So now it is a WHO international emergency.

    https://www.who.int/news-room/detail...rus-(2019-ncov)

    Cases are only up 7 percent since yesterday, 10 fold since when? You can say 100 fold if you reference back far enough, since patient one, cases are up 8300 fold!
    Someone told the WHO to declare an emergency, they did not do that by themselves.

    If they are going to declare this a global health emergency for 213 deaths when the flu kills over 20, 000 in the U.S. over a similar time frame almost every year, one needs to question motives.

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    Quote Posted by The Moss Trooper (here)
    If they are going to declare this a global health emergency for 213 deaths when the flu kills over 20, 000 in the U.S. over a similar time frame almost every year, one needs to question motives.
    Yes, 100% understood. And hundreds can die all at once in a plane crash, or hundreds of thousands every year from smoking-related diseases. (Or, regular flu.)

    But this is something to do with risk management, and projections if this gets out of hand, which it might — whatever the initial causes or agendas.

    If the early-guessing worst-case scenarios are close to correct, there may be hundreds of millions of fatalities in a few months' time. That's extreme, but doesn't seem 100% impossible. So the WHO declaration of emergency is to raise all defenses to stave that off... not to react to what's already happened, which might be in its earliest stages.

    Just thinking aloud here, the main impacts, aside from many fellow human beings in great genuine suffering, may be economic. The world's factory has partially closed, and the world's supply chain of goods has partially been broken.

    That situation might worsen still. There could be a global depression ushered in by all of this. Then hundreds of millions of families worldwide become affected through job losses and the like.

    Other consequences might be mandatory vaccinations, mandatory travel restrictions, more global control (problem-reaction-solution), and all the potential measures we know all about. This is why what's rolling out right now may be very important to track, as best we can.

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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    This is extremely interesting. (My added emphasis.) Copied here in full, as some readers may not be able to access the article.
    Faced With Existential Threat to Their Rule, Chinese Leaders Decide to Save 11 Cities From Coronavirus Epidemic: Insider

    Top Chinese leaders at a Chinese Communist Party (CCP) Politburo meeting last week expressed concern that the Wuhan coronavirus outbreak may put an end to their rule. They have decided to focus on preserving 11 major cities from being devastated by the virus.

    Stephen Shiu Yeuk-yuen, a senior political commentator and media professional in Hong Kong, told the Hong Kong edition of The Epoch Times on Jan. 28 that he obtained the information from an insider in the CCP’s top leadership. According to Shiu, the Politburo emergency meeting was held on Jan. 25, on the day of the Chinese New Year.

    The 11 cities on the CCP’s priority list of being saved are Beijing, Tianjin, Shanghai, Guangzhou, Shenzhen, Hong Kong, Hangzhou, Xi’an, Shenyang, Harbin, and Urumqi. The CCP is prepared to protect these 11 cities at all cost, even if it means sacrificing other cities, Shiu said.

    Projected Death Toll Estimate: Between 1 and 2 Million

    Shiu said that according to a recent research report by Professor Gabriel Matthew Leung, before the lockdown of Wuhan—where the deadly and highly contagious coronavirus originated—there were about 25,000 people infected with the coronavirus, and 15,000 additional cases during the virus incubation period. This means, the total number of infected people is roughly 40,000. Based on the spreading pattern, it is estimated that the current number of infected people around the globe is between 25,000 and 38,000.

    Prof. Leung is Dean of the University of Hong Kong’s Medical School. He is also a recognized medical doctor and public health authority.

    Leung’s report points out that without strong intervention measures in place, the number of infected people will double every 6.2 days, if the calculation is based on an even more conservative figure of 22,000 infected cases globally at present.

    Leung estimates that in Wuhan, the number of newly infected patients will reach the maximum—about 200,000 per day—in April. In several other cities, including Chongqing, Guangzhou and Shenzhen, the number will peak in May. In the months that follow, the total number of infected people across the country will reach 18 million, with the total number of deaths ranging between 1 and 2 million.

    Information Blockade and Cover-up

    Shiu criticized the CCP for its cover-up and delay in taking measures to contain the virus, saying the main reason for this catastrophe is the blocking of information.

    As a result, those who were infected with the disease were not quarantined in a timely manner.

    Chinese authorities initially denied that the disease could be spread via human-to-human transmission.

    In addition, for several days, Chinese medical authorities reported very few new cases in Wuhan and no new cases in other Chinese cities, giving the public a false impression that the novel coronavirus was not a threat to public health.

    Then on Jan. 20, a leading scientist of China’s Health Commission, Zhong Nanshan, announced at a press conference in Beijing that the disease can spread from human to human.

    Wuhan’s mayor subsequently announced a city-wide lockdown on Jan. 24, and quarantined the city on the same day—on the eve of the Chinese New Year. But millions of people had already left Wuhan for the holiday before Jan. 20, and nearly 300,000 Wuhan residents rushed to escape from the city before the lockdown was executed.

    In addition, even after the city-wide lockdown of Wuhan, the central authorities failed to dispatch needed manpower and medical supplies, resulting in things such as corpses lying about on a hospital floor and citizens not being informed about virus prevention, all of which would further spread the virus.

    The 11 Cities

    According to Shiu’s insider contact, central authorities at the Jan. 25 Politburo meeting pointed out that the novel coronavirus outbreak poses a serious challenge to the legitimacy of the CCP’s rule. In other words, the CCP is facing a serious crisis and the threat of its total demise.

    Shiu said he believes the epidemic, which is now getting out of control, will have “a deadly impact” on China’s economy. In his estimation, more than half of Chinese business activities will come to a halt. Hong Kong will also be affected, he said.

    Therefore, the top officials at the political meeting decided to go all out to save the 11 cities from the coronavirus outbreak.

    The insider did not give specific reasons as to why the authorities chose those 11 cities, but they are the commercial and military hubs in the country. It is well-known among mainland Chinese that the most developed metros and financial hubs are Beijing, Shanghai, Shenzhen, Guangzhou and Hong Kong; and the military technology centers are Xi’an, Shenyang and Harbin.

    Shiu predicted that Shenzhen, a city of about 20 million people that borders Hong Kong, will soon be completely isolated from other Chinese regions.

    “There are many high-tech companies in Shenzhen,” he explained. “As for Hong Kong, the city’s government seems to be hesitating. I believe it is because they are waiting for the final instruction from the central government [Beijing],” he said.

    Meanwhile, more than 15,000 hospital authority employees in Hong Kong have joined a new union, urging the Hong Kong government to close the border with mainland China. According to the representative of the union, if they do not receive any response from local officials by Feb. 3, members of the union will launch a large-scale strike.

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    Breaking: 2 patients in England who are members of the same family have tested positive for coronavirus - according to the Chief Medical Officer for England Professor Chris Whitty

    https://news.sky.com/story/first-two...in-uk-11922375

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    Not sure??

    KILLER BUG IN BRITAIN Coronavirus hits UK as TWO patients confirmed to have deadly Chinese bug...

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/108609..._source=pushly

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    Choose well.
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    Quote Posted by yuhui (here)
    Coronavirus update: Vaccine expected in Phase 1 trial within months, WHO to reconvene on Thursday

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/co...day-2020-01-29

    A show of hands who wants to be, say, first in line for some new and rapidly developed vaccine?

    Sounds good, maybe we could also get our chip implants with the vaccine?

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    Jefferey Jaxen analyzes info available on Coronavirus as of early 1/30/2020....

    The most interesting part of this show may be the presentation by Dr James Lyons-Weiler, who comes in at 23:10 and talks clearly and authoritatively about the situation.

    He states the likelihood of this being a natural 'wild' virus is "about zero", and asserts that this comes from a lab — leaning slightly more to a bioweapons origin than the alternative, which is a vaccine experiment gone awry. He goes through the logic in a way that's easy for laypeople to understand.

    Either way, he suspects the release is accidental. The bioweapons origin he thinks is slightly more likely because of the combo of (a) asymptomatic infection (i.e. people with no symptoms at all can still spread it), and what may be a high R0, or high transmission rate — but the R0 isn't clearly established yet, so that factor is still in question.
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    Here is another interesting interview with Dr. Francis Boyle.


    Dr. Francis Boyle | Wuhan Coronavirus is an Offensive Biological Warfare Weapon | Jan. 30, 2020

    Source: guadalajarageopolitics.com



    Dr. Francis Boyle discusses the coronavirus outbreak in Wuhan, China and the Biosafety Level 4 laboratory (BSL-4) from which he believes the infectious disease escaped. He believes the virus is potentially lethal and an offensive biological warfare weapon or dual-use biowarfare weapons agent genetically modified with gain of function properties, which is why the Chinese government originally tried to cover it up and is now taking drastic measures to contain it. The Wuhan BSL-4 lab is also a specially designated World Health Organization (WHO) research lab and Dr. Boyle contends that the WHO knows full well what is occurring.

    Show Notes:
    Interview with Francis Boyle on Biowarfare: U.S. Germ Warfare Program a "Criminal Enterprise"
    Anthrax War (documentary)
    Weaponizing Biotech – China’s War for Biological Dominance
    China Wants Wuhan Activists to Stay Out of Its War on Pollution
    2019: Gates Foundation, Others, Simulate, Outbreak of Novel Coronavirus
    2017: Inside Chinese lab poised to study world's most dangerous pathogens
    2015: Lab-Made Coronavirus Triggers Debate

    About Francis Boyle
    Francis Boyle is a professor of international law at the University of Illinois College of Law. He received an AB (1971) in Political Science from the University of Chicago, then a JD degree magna cum laude from Harvard Law School, and AM and PhD degrees in Political Science from Harvard University. He practiced tax and international tax with Bingham, Dana & Gould.

    Professor Boyle serves as counsel to Bosnia and Herzegovina and to the Provisional Government of the Palestinian Authority. He also represents two associations of citizens within Bosnia and was involved in developing the indictment against Slobodan Milosević for genocide, crimes against humanity, and war crimes in Bosnia and Herzegovina.

    Over his career, he has represented national and international bodies including the Blackfoot Nation (Canada), the Nation of Hawaii, and the Lakota Nation, as well as numerous individual death penalty and human rights cases. He has advised numerous international bodies in the areas of human rights, war crimes and genocide, nuclear policy, and bio-warfare. From 1991-92, he served as Legal Advisor to the Palestinian Delegation to the Middle East Peace Negotiations.

    Professor Boyle served on the Board of Directors of Amnesty International, as a consultant to the American Friends Service Committee, and on the Advisory Board for the Council for Responsible Genetics. He drafted the U.S. domestic implementing legislation for the Biological Weapons Convention, known as the Biological Weapons Anti-Terrorism Act of 1989, that was approved unanimously by both Houses of the U.S. Congress and signed into law by President George H.W. Bush.
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