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    Vivek and most probably US are illuminati paid trolls.

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    Stan,

    You must really be upset when someone challenges your thoughts with reason. Just because Vivek and I do not trust Drake's message, have pointed out huge holes in his story, does not make us illuminati trolls. Name calling is a true disinfo tactic and shows how out classed, out debated, and out gunned you are. Yes, when all else fails scream "TROLL" and see if you can shut them up or create more "TROLL" screamers.

    Nice desperate move.

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    Name calling ...
    Yeah - no name calling, aranuk - such posts are subject to deletion, depending on the decision of the mods.
    My quite dormant website: pauljackson.us

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    Beautifully stated, sir! I too will listen to my heart on this one. My instincts have rarely led me astray and if I happen to be wrong, I will have no problem what-so-ever admitting it. We are playing nothing but a waiting game as it is, so why not hold onto a little bit of hope for humanity while we await? Many Blessings to you and yours.

    Sorry, I am new and still getting used to this format. This is in reply to 'Stan'.

    "I listened to Drake tonight and my heart is warmer now. My heart is what I have followed all my life, and I will not deny it of value now or at any other time. My heart tells me that Drake is true and so is Deatra. These people here who tell us we are gullible and all that have that right I admit, but they do not influence me one bit. The cabal/illuminati/ TPTB are proven to be murderers, paedophiles, satanists, war mongerers, and genocidal maniacs, so where are the arguments here? There are none. Drake and Deatra are fine people. Don't you naysayers have a heart? I really don't think you have. You have a brain and some of you think you are much brainier than you are. Start listening to your heart because your heart isn't brainwashed, it's that simple. Some people may ask, "how can I avoid being brainwashed?"you can't, it is that simple. If you listen to your heart it is always your biggest and best guide."

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    So....let me get this straight...Drake is involved in a planned take down of the government and it's unfair systems within a month or two at the most. With these HUGE changes and as busy as he is he still has time to start a lawsuit against Kerry or anyone else who doesn't believe him or has said something about him that he didn't like???? This is the final nail in the coffin as far as him having ANY believability whatsoever for me!!

    He's a proponent of taking DOWN the system yet he will USE that system of NONjustice to hassle someone who has only stated their truths! Even if he doesn't follow through with a lawsuit, just the THREAT of it shows what kind of person he is. What a CROCK!!! My ambivalence towards Drake has now turned towards distaste. I don't respond well to any kind of intimidation and I would hope that others weren't so gleeful at the thought of Drake suing ANYONE who has spoken against him. Obviously he's not a believer in free speech other than for himself. It's absolutely disgusting!

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    Quote Posted by aranuk (here)
    Vivek and most probably US are illuminati paid trolls.

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    Stan,

    You must really be upset when someone challenges your thoughts with reason. Just because Vivek and I do not trust Drake's message, have pointed out huge holes in his story, does not make us illuminati trolls. Name calling is a true disinfo tactic and shows how out classed, out debated, and out gunned you are. Yes, when all else fails scream "TROLL" and see if you can shut them up or create more "TROLL" screamers.

    Nice desperate move.
    I follow my heart dear. If I would let it rip upon you or Vivek I would most probably be expelled from here. It is quite clear that you and him have backing from Bill Ryan and Paul. I rest my case. I cannot speak freely here as you know. That is the liberty you take here with descent people here. If we had a level playing field here I would take you guys on in a serious debate, however my hands are tied behind my back and you ****ing people know it.

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    Quote Posted by aranuk (here)
    Quote Posted by Unified Serenity (here)
    Quote Posted by aranuk (here)
    Vivek and most probably US are illuminati paid trolls.

    Stan
    Stan,

    You must really be upset when someone challenges your thoughts with reason. Just because Vivek and I do not trust Drake's message, have pointed out huge holes in his story, does not make us illuminati trolls. Name calling is a true disinfo tactic and shows how out classed, out debated, and out gunned you are. Yes, when all else fails scream "TROLL" and see if you can shut them up or create more "TROLL" screamers.

    Nice desperate move.
    I follow my heart dear. If I would let it rip upon you or Vivek I would most probably be expelled from here. It is quite clear that you and him have backing from Bill Ryan and Paul. I rest my case. I cannot speak freely here as you know. That is the liberty you take here with descent people here. If we had a level playing field here I would take you guys on in a serious debate, however my hands are tied behind my back and you ****ing people know it.

    Stan
    Stan as you know you are heard by the people who are "hearing". Nothing is fair anywhere --- we use this venue to speak the truth (as we feel it) the best we can. She/they are like static, but we are still able to tune right in to your "voice". It's ok. We'll watch the unfolding together.

    Edit ****
    I do not presume to know the TRUTH. I do not KNOW anything about these topics we discuss. That's because I am not an insider with inside information. I am a student. I simply study, listen, read and assimilate information to get some sense of truth for me. I share what seems to be true with forum members. I resonate with Stan and don't resonate with others. Same as if I met you at a party, which is what PA was set up to be. I'd be talking on a couch with those whose conversations I enjoyed.
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    Wow, Paul, this is the first time I have ever even concidered being on the same side as you and I tend to go toe to toe with each other. So, I am very surprised to hear you are backing me. Bill, well he is an aussie and I have a soft spot for them, so maybe he is backing me, LOL.

    Seriously, are you even hearing yourself Stan? Yes, let's change the debate, put the spotlight on those asking questions and the validity of the site. One question left Stan, and that is "Are you trying to commit suicide by Mod?"

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    Ok, that is never true with me, there are always more questions. Those of you who steadfastly stand behind your "Heart", I am wondering if any of you have ever regretted anything you decided. Have you gotten a divorce? Have you ever said something in anger you regretted all because you heart spoke before your head did?

    I would love nothing more than to spread ooey gooey stories that make people "resonate" in bliss and joy, but I won't lie, and I won't shut off my mind. Did you guys ever watch the interview with the guy who had the green background? I bet you didn't because it was so spot on, that anyone who could back Drake after it must be out of their minds.
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    Just noticing some things...

    … and how long have WE (the world) been dealing with the problem of TPTB?

    Quote Drake:
    The things that are of God will prosper and The things that are not of God, tend to wither away and die.
    SO... Does that mean the TPTB are of God's design? If so, then why is he involved with a group to dismantle them? And if not, how come they have prospered so well for sooo long?

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    Quote Posted by xbusymom (here)
    Just noticing some things...

    … and how long have WE (the world) been dealing with the problem of TPTB?

    Quote Drake:
    The things that are of God will prosper and The things that are not of God, tend to wither away and die.
    SO... Does that mean the TPTB are of God's design? If so, then why is he involved with a group to dismantle them? And if not, how come they have prospered so well for sooo long?
    In my mind they are. They fulfill the negative side of prophecy.

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    Quote Posted by xbusymom (here)
    Just noticing some things...

    … and how long have WE (the world) been dealing with the problem of TPTB?

    Quote Drake:
    The things that are of God will prosper and The things that are not of God, tend to wither away and die.
    SO... Does that mean the TPTB are of God's design? If so, then why is he involved with a group to dismantle them? And if not, how come they have prospered so well for sooo long?
    IMHO
    We are physical, not ethereal ... yet. So, as we've been discussing lately about TPTB on other threads --- the despicable PHYSICAL things they do to innocent people (humanity) require physical to physical action, as well as all the other realms available to rid the planet of evil. He is representing the boots on the ground part of the process ... we've heard about the ET/ED side of it which I have no access to so my thoughts are hopefully adding strength to those who plan to do the physical removal.

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    Quote Posted by Unified Serenity (here)
    Quote Posted by xbusymom (here)
    Just noticing some things...

    … and how long have WE (the world) been dealing with the problem of TPTB?

    Quote Drake:
    The things that are of God will prosper and The things that are not of God, tend to wither away and die.
    SO... Does that mean the TPTB are of God's design? If so, then why is he involved with a group to dismantle them? And if not, how come they have prospered so well for sooo long?
    In my mind they are. They fulfill the negative side of prophecy.
    interesting that you bring up the balancing neg/pos... I had posted a note RE: this several weeks back on another thread... as the level of negative grows- so does the positive [to keep the sides balanced]- and vice-versa.

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    Bill is English not Australian. Surely your great brain dear knows that. That dear is as Sherlock Holmes said is elementary.


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    Quote Posted by Unified Serenity (here)
    Wow, Paul, this is the first time I have ever even concidered being on the same side as you and I tend to go toe to toe with each other. So, I am very surprised to hear you are backing me. Bill, well he is an aussie and I have a soft spot for them, so maybe he is backing me, LOL.

    Seriously, are you even hearing yourself Stan? Yes, let's change the debate, put the spotlight on those asking questions and the validity of the site. One question left Stan, and that is "Are you trying to commit suicide by Mod?"

    edit.....

    Ok, that is never true with me, there are always more questions. Those of you who steadfastly stand behind your "Heart", I am wondering if any of you have ever regretted anything you decided. Have you gotten a divorce? Have you ever said something in anger you regretted all because you heart spoke before your head did?

    I would love nothing more than to spread ooey gooey stories that make people "resonate" in bliss and joy, but I won't lie, and I won't shut off my mind. Did you guys ever watch the interview with the guy who had the green background? I bet you didn't because it was so spot on, that anyone who could back Drake after it must be out of their minds.
    Yes, I have, at times regretted things in my past. I am only human much like everyone else. However, I am also willing to admit when I am wrong. To be honst, I have regretted decisions that I have made with my brain. Rarely have I ever regretted following my instincts or my heart.

    Am I really out of my mind because I choose to believe in something that you don't? Is it so bad I have hope that there may be a real solution to the problems that we face? I refuse to believe that everyone in the top levels of government are evil, corrupt cowards. There has to be some good people involved who want the best for humanity. If this makes me 'insane' in someone elses opinion, so be it. I have young children who deserve better than a lie down and die mentality out of their mother. I don't live my life in order to satisfy strangers, I live my life to satisfy myself and the people whom I love. I see no reason to judge anyone based upon their opinion of this plan. You are free to see things as you wish, it's not my problem either way.

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    Bill is English not Australian. Surely your great brain dear knows that. That dear is as Sherlock Holmes said is elementary.


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    LOL, he makes a much better aussie and that's how I always see him. Bill, can't be blamed for being born in England can he? Oh, and you are so very snarky tonight Stan. Please do watch that negative karma building up via such thoughts.

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    I want to thank Alie, Stardust and Kiwielf for bringing some clarity here. I think we could cook an egg on our Stan.

    I spoke my truth to my reaction to hearing certain things. Lots of truth will get us places we want to get to. It will be messy at first. I, for one, can allow for mis-steps and hasty words. We all get hot and say sh!t. I don't play gotcha, with anyone. Recanting, restating do-overs all works for me as long as the dialogue stays open and we get clear. Even if Drake threatened a lawsuit in pique there is a lesson for most of us. Old habits die hard and this will be our biggest collective stumbling block as we create new ways. We all know we don't like what we have, but how many of us have invented the replacement yet. I mean this in the deepest way possible also. Programming. When we are tired or emotionally involved we tend to thrash and go on auto-pilot a bit. My sense is that Drake has been burning the candles at both ends with this project and when we get tired our skin gets thin. The outrageous slings and arrows start to get through and sting. Outbursts become possible.

    When we go on auto-pilot we tend to fall into a behavioral patterns that rely largely on rote and instinct. On programming. Many of us are quite unaware of the many layers to our being and different places we source ourselves from. What lies ahead will be a crash course in dumping old programming and starting to live in the now. The gotcha! game many of us play comes from a sense of powerlessness. When someone trips and comes from a place of compromised power/integrity we pounce because their loss of power is our gain, even if only temporarily. Relationships are the best arena to observe this behavior. Being in the 'dog house' is the phrase used.

    There are going to be mistakes in a new world with new rules, many which have not even been considered or created yet. The emotional state and age of most people is going to make things very dysfunctional for awhile. It is my hope that when the many weights and injustices are relieved the endless excuses for not maturing emotionally and moving forward will end. Hopefully peer pressure/assistance will quicken the very essential behavioral shift that is part and parcel of the paradigm shift. There can be no new Earth with the same old broken people.

    I am not making excuses for Drake. I will allow him to stumble though. As long as he picks himself up when he does. We need to be each others keeper. Not critic and sh!t flinger.
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    Deatra-Drake Transcript: This is only the first 10-11 minutes. I have removed "ums" and "ahh's" for clarity. (Still no substitute for listening yourselves )

    Deatra: Please everybody, keep in mind and remember, Drake is not God, he is not the Messiah, he is simply bringing a message to you... of information that he has to help regain our great land. So, you know, emails such as, "I'm going on a cruise, is it safe to go? Oh my God, I have Drake's blessing,.. I can go now." Come on people, this is a little ridiculous, don't you think?

    Anyways Drake, we wanna clear up a bunch of stuff that went on, I guess,.. there was an interview that was done, or at least a blog written, over at, ahhh what is it; Divine Cosmos, no, what's that site, I don't even know that site because I don't go.

    Drake: Project Camelot?

    Deatra: Yes, Project Camelot, and I wanna let you go ahead and address those. I do know that those people love to cause issues,.. and it's not the greatest thing. You're not the only one who they have demonised, victimised, caused trouble for and so on and so forth, and I wanna give you the chance to address that.

    Drake: OK, well if anybody hasn't read it, they may wanna go read it. Some of the information's correct. Information wise, they've made a couple of glaring errors. One of the things I see that they're really adept at doing is creating controversy by taking a snip out of somebody's overall conversation and saying, "See, I told ya he was nasty," sorta thing. Clearly childish in some ways, but it put an interesting political spin on it. Now, I was a member of a group of veterans called, The Vietnam Brotherhood, and they're trying to say that, or state, actually they do state, in that post, that I was the founder of it, which I am not.

    Now, what they don't know is that these people are very sensitive about that, and I'll be surprised if they don't file in conjunction with me, the law suit that is probably gonna come at ya.

    The second part of this is, where they accuse me of being an "Illuminati" and I really take issue with that because I am not a baby-torturing thinga-ma-bob that most of the Illuminati are. They accuse me of this because I, at one time I was affiliated with a group known as Loyal Order of the Royal Dragon.

    Now anybody that's done any homework listening to anything and paid any attention at all has heard of the White Dragon Society, they have heard of the "families". That's what this pertains to. It does not have diddely squat to do with the Illuminati! The Illuminati won't go near those people for one fact: their orders from the "higher ups" in those groups is to dismember them on sight. And I guarantee you, I know a few of these people and they are very much capable of doing just exactly that.

    Now, I asked to post on the website, as a response to what they've posted. I had to register so that I could post. It takes three days to a week or so or whenever they feel like it, to authorise my capability to post on that website. Ok, well the problem with that is that, when you come out with intentionally misleading and blatantly false,.. knowingly false information, and you broadcast it on a website, that covers areas that go across state lines, it's not a local defamation kick,... ughhhh traffic ticket deal; it goes to Federal Court.

    Within the realms of the Federal Government, which I don't like very much anyway, but might serve a purpose, there are things called "terrorism" that I don't think you wanna deal with, in terms of that website, and some of the things that have been posted, some of the things that have been done there, recently, under its present management and control, are such that both cans of worms are open. Both the litigation and to the summary removal of the website for "activities that are opposite the betterment or continuation or continuity of government". So, you may be in a lot more trouble than you think.

    I have not considered yet, whether I am going to take these actions. I am considering "how" and to what extent I want to take it. The individuals who run the website, the individuals who posted, all the people who can allow access to the website, will all be held responsible in the case that I decide to litigate this. I'm presently seeking the advice and counsel of some legalists who are some of the finest in the World, and we'll see what their recommendation is.

    One of the things that I will not tolerate is that type of fun and games. I do not propose to retaliate any further than than this if it's made available, and that is ... that I'm allowed to post corrections to that website on that specific proposition and without the "I think so and maybe we'll think about allowing you to post" part of it ... as the admin that I talked to via email express and a permanent attachment to that particular post of my counter proposal to what was posted.

    Now, I have talked to a couple of people and they're having a little trouble correlating Loyal Order of the Royal Dragon with the Dragon Family. This goes to a secret society royal bloodline that are the ones who kept the collateral accounts safe. Now that's pretty awesome if you think about it. This is what we're fighting against, the present economic system, about these people stealing, leveraging borrowing from these collateral accounts for years. Not only do they owe that, they also owe a per annum fee for portions of the allowed usage of those collateral accounts. At this point, they cannot pay.

    Well, the problem with the combination of that is, the Illuminati would love to get their scanners on those accounts, simply so they can continue to suppress the people, and the efforts of the website tend to show that these people seem to like that idea, or they would not denigrate someone without doing research. Now the research is simple. Anybody who's got a computer can look up "The Vietnam Brotherhood" and see that I'm not the owner, they don't got one. And I was not the founder,.. I joined long after they started.

    Number two. Anybody with a computer, and you know, you gotta be able to type a lil bit ... you know, L, O, R, D ... when you put that into the computer: Loyal Order of the Royal Dragon, look at the Royal Dragon Society and then you'll understand, because it is a "loyalty oath" to the morality involved in the lives lead by the people who were responsible, not only "to" but also "for" other people. For their betterment to make sure their lives were not... too unbearable, and this was done in a variety of ways, and has been for thousands of years.

    So, you have denigrated the Dragon Families and the people associated with them in this process.

    I'll be in touch with them in the next coupla days to find out what they wanna do about it. Now whether they take this personally or decide to do this publicly, I don't know yet. If it's a public decision, then this will probably go through the courts. If it's a private decision, you might as well pack your bags and leave town, and that's basically where this sits at this point.

    I'm not personally going to address this other than officially from now on. By officially, that's either through the courts or attorney's, attachments etc, and things of this nature.
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    Oh, pleazzzzze tell me I heard wrong......

    (still listening to the tapes...)

    whoa! did I hear that correctly?? did Dave just do to people *”the next person sending me a link to bills' stuff – I am gonna boot ya”* (at 1:47 in part one) exactly what he was complaining about Kerry doing to him on her show the other night?

    *talk about instant karma...
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    I'm worried because Bill Wood just said that Obama is not a bad guy. WTF? Alex Jones, where are you on that one.

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    Quote The things that are not of God, tend to wither away and die.
    Where is there not sacred ground? Where is there a place or space that is not of god?
    TPTB... perhaps they, too, are playing a divine role.... Without their presence, how could humanity wake itself up?

    Quote Does that mean the TPTB are of God's design? If so, then why is he involved with a group to dismantle them? And if not, how come they have prospered so well for sooo long?
    I don't see that it could be anything else but divine. God is playing both sides of the coin, both a Creator & a Destroyer.
    Being prosperous is in the eye of the beholder.
    A rich man living in his castle fears that someday that it may somehow be lost. One may horde what he thinks is a golden treasure. The act of hording is a state that is needed to be experienced. One will find out where that path will lead.
    You can see this for yourself... at any level of living life. The more you gather gold or silver coins, the more will come the notion of how to keep them safe & secured from those that may come to steal them away from you.

    TPTB are there so humanity can learn a lesson & to grow in awareness. TPTB, perhaps, they need to truly understand greed, the thirst for power. It can only be really understood through the existential experience within this 3D physical plane.
    Those that have been cheated of their riches, were willing participants in being cheated. The emotional rollie coaster ride is consequence & the lesson to be learned through the experience.
    The real treasure is not found without, but within.

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    Quote Posted by Unified Serenity (here)
    Quote Posted by xbusymom (here)
    Just noticing some things...

    … and how long have WE (the world) been dealing with the problem of TPTB?

    Quote Drake:
    The things that are of God will prosper and The things that are not of God, tend to wither away and die.
    SO... Does that mean the TPTB are of God's design? If so, then why is he involved with a group to dismantle them? And if not, how come they have prospered so well for sooo long?
    In my mind they are. They fulfill the negative side of prophecy.
    interesting that you bring up the balancing neg/pos... I had posted a note RE: this several weeks back on another thread... as the level of negative grows- so does the positive [to keep the sides balanced]- and vice-versa.

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    Bill, well he is an aussie and I have a soft spot for them, so maybe he is backing me, LOL.
    I'm a Brit with a South African hat and Canadian Parents, who was raised in West Africa. But when I was in Australia, even some of the Aussies thought I was an Aussie.




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    cy's post here summed up the situation perfectly:
    Quote So....let me get this straight...Drake is involved in a planned take down of the government and its unfair systems within a month or two at the most. With these HUGE changes and as busy as he is he still has time to start a lawsuit against Kerry or anyone else who doesn't believe him or has said something about him that he didn't like???? This is the final nail in the coffin as far as him having ANY believability whatsoever for me!!

    He's a proponent of taking DOWN the system yet he will USE that system of NONjustice to hassle someone who has only stated their truths! Even if he doesn't follow through with a lawsuit, just the THREAT of it shows what kind of person he is. What a CROCK!!! My ambivalence towards Drake has now turned towards distaste. I don't respond well to any kind of intimidation and I would hope that others weren't so gleeful at the thought of Drake suing ANYONE who has spoken against him. Obviously he's not a believer in free speech other than for himself. It's absolutely disgusting!
    The entire affair is a pantomime. I'm amazed that this is not obvious to everyone.



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