The Technological Revolution: Artificial Intelligence and the Invisible Plague

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Posted by Vivek (here)

Posted by Flash (here)
Waht is a "scuttlers" first part of first sentence second paragraph is a mystery to me lol

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=adaHlqUG79I

See also: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post627866

There is an interesting episode of the Gene Roddenberry series "Earth final conflict" in this episode creatures are atracted to energy and electricity( forgot which episode sorry) that sounds very much like this, I see scuttlers too btw, have so for years, always from the corner of my eye, when they get noticed "poof" gone. I am also beiginning to suspect a form or different species of these creatures is responseable for the senseation of something getting stuck ( rammed) or being pulled out of my back (hard) as soon as lie down to relax, feels like i am being tapped off or something like that, the strange part is it does NOT happen when i lay on my back ( no acces I guess), but I almost feel compelled to sleep or rest on my side and then sure enough, within 5 minutes its there, left side, right side, does not matter, it just shows up, turn on my back and its gone, i have no back issues so that cant be it if you understand me, maybe I am not the only one, sure hope so, as bad as that sounds, but not being alone in this would make a huge difference to me.

small edit,

I am also considering buying a small beamer because the light the computer screen gives is driving my eyes/ brain nuts, also cant be very healthy since your aura gets blasted with unrequested frequencies as well as you sit in front of your screen, i am betting this will make huge difference.

another edit,

this reminds me of a post Jackov did some time ago that i reposted on the Horus Ra thread about djinn and scuttlers, was very informative as well. And o yeah, DMT elves and such, if they are anything like any other existing lifeform in whatever realm they too must have different dispositions just like us, something that should be looked into as well imo just like us they must be a foodsourdce for something else, it just one big huge friggin foodchain and that makes sense, but just like any fish, i would like to have the opportunity to swim somewhere else when preyed upon to prevent being eaten.

[Christine]

Posted by Flash (here)
Hi Christine,

I do not quite understand what you mean and I truly think it is related to my lack of knowledge of the English language.

What is a "scuttlers" first part of first sentence second paragraph is a mystery to me lol , how did you picked up the signal being broadcasted (I find this utterly interesting), finding yourself falling asleep at the keyboard, very distinctive drowsiness: you could not imagine how often this happened to me last year when on Avalon, up to a point where I knew something was wrong and knew it was not from Avalon owner and mods. This year I had all king of physical mishaps (falling very badly and trying to recuperate for a year, then falling again, then having a month of flu, etc), and extreme depressive bouts - no need to make me fall asleep. How do you do to stop the abnormal drowsiness?

Thanks for answering.

I don't think I can answer why so much has happened to you! But I know you are not alone, on most occasions I observe that my physical/ emotional debilities are indeed challenges pushing me into a deeper understanding.

The "scuttlers" or spiders that I referred to are what RMorgan and others are experiencing. I too have sensed their presence, dark shadows that disappear the moment you perceive them.

The best answer I can give you is that my sensitivity has expanded to the point where I trace energies, that includes frequency signals. As I previously posted, by penetrating via intent/ focus into the dimension where the the seen world interfaces with the unseen world. Aspects of this dimension are telepathy, remote viewing, how prayer works, etc. It isn't a void, it is alive. I am not trained or particularly talented either. I just started exercising my intent and focus.

For quite some time I noticed that my mind was being scrambled, thoughts were confused, I literally couldn't complete a thought. I just kept working at it. During a very intense period the thought entered my mind that I was being messed with via generated frequencies. Strangely at that point I was able to trace the signal and find out where it was coming from which alleviated the symptoms.

I have worked alone and with others sharing these perceptions to the point that I can follow the signal and hear what is being broadcast subliminally. All of which is in the realm of the mass mind control experiment currently in play.

How to stop the drowsiness is a very good question. Yesterday for example I felt it in waves all day long. Sometimes I just power through, other times I feel I have to turn off the computer, all electronics and go for a walk. Earthing is a very good practice. Get out of the field of broadcast if possible.

Recently I have been "talking" back, taking my intent and perception then putting it in the airwaves. For me the way through it be be at cause and not at affect. Take action.

It also helps to develop an awareness that detects just the moment a symptom starts, by literally grabbing it you can often trace where it originates.

I have trained myself to question whether it is my thought or an implanted one, if I detect any sort of interference.

Hope this helps answer your question. I wish I were better able to describe the subtleties, but I think you will get the picture.

[Fred Steeves]

Interesting term "Scuttlers". I like it! There are also little pinpoints of light that appear every now and then in the same manner. I don't see either one of them all that often, but when I do, it's always when I'm in between thoughts, not particularly concentrating on anything. Reminds me of an unusual occurence just yesterday. I saw something out of the corner of my eye two rooms away in my house, and when I looked, I caught just the last whisp of a shadow disappearing into an exterior wall. The very next moment, a very vivid point of light briefly appeared right before my eyes, looking straight on, in the room I was in.

That's the first time I've seen both in one occurence, it has always been either one or the other up til then. Curious.

Addendum: What do we call the little points of light, "Flashers"?(LOL)

[Jeffrey]

Okay, here's the idea. I've been trying to get it out, but it difficult to condense. It keeps coming out it spurts. New information keeps coming in as well, so it's good to keep this whole process open and dynamic.

Look at how biological systems behave. Everything, the entire universe is a reflection of itself. As above, so below -- this is truth. Literally, there is no mysterious undertones or ambiguity here. It is a directly observable truth. To actualize it on a psychic level of awareness is another topic altogether.

We can see it now. No metaphysical methods required.

The planet behaves like one giant organism. There are systems within systems. They all affect one another and they are all interconnected. They are supposed to work together in harmony -- just like any healthy body. Each has their function ... call it purpose if you will. The system will behave how it behaves regardless of how it is interpreted. Just observe it, and the reality will become apparent. It's in the mechanics. If we have a rough understanding of how our body operates, then we have a rough understanding of how the planet operates. The universe is a massive, nested hierarchy -- everything is a holon to another holon. When a whole hologram is cut into bits, each piece contains all of the information of the whole.

When the system is sick (i.e. something is misbehaving, something is there that isn't supposed to be there) we can dial into the problem by observing the symptoms. Our planet is sick. Why?

Humanity (and all other species and ecosystems) are a part of the whole organism that is the Earth.

We are like sentient, intelligent, self-aware cells of the planet. In turn, the planet is a cell in a larger solar system. This system is an organ in a bigger galactic system. The galaxy is part of a larger network of galaxies, which make up the entirety of the material universe.

When a body is sick, it is usually due to an infection. Humanity is behaving unlike any other planetary cell/system. Look at the symptoms. We collectively disregard the health of the planetary body. We multiply uncontrollably to inhabit dense areas around the globe in cities and suburbs. We incessantly use up resources -- disregarding their renewability and the future effects of their contaminants. We are unaware of our function on the planet. We use, discard, disregard. We eat, sleep, work.

What sort of sickness in the body parallels the incurred ailments of the planet?

Cancer, viruses, parasites.

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When a spot on a person's skin changes color, becomes tough or rough and elevated or ulcerated, bleeds, scales, scabs over and fails to heal, it's time to consult a doctor. For these are early signs of skin cancer.

As seen by astronauts and photographed from space by satellites, millions of manmade patterns on the land surface of Earth resemble nothing so much as the skin conditions of cancer patients.

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Cancer cells proliferate rapidly and uncontrollably in the body; humans continue to proliferate rapidly and uncontrollably in the world. Crowded cancer cells harden into tumors; humans crowd into cities. Cancer cells infiltrate and destroy adjacent normal tissues; urban sprawl devours open land. Malignant tumors shed cells that migrate to distant parts of the body and set up secondary tumors; humans have colonized just about every habitable part of the globe. Cancer cells lose their natural appearance and distinctive functions; humans homogenize diverse natural ecosystems into artificial monocultures. Malignant tumors excrete enzymes and other chemicals that adversely affect remote parts of the body; humans' motor vehicles, power plants, factories and farms emit toxins that pollute environments far from the point of origin.

A cancerous tumor continues to grow even as its expropriation of nutrients and disruption of vital functions cause its host to waste away. Similarly, human societies undermine their own long-term viability by depleting and fouling the environment. With civilization as with cancer, initial success begets self-defeating excess.

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Accepting the humans-as-cancer concept comes easier if one also accepts the Gaia hypothesis that the planet functions as a single living organism.

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James Lovelock, who propounded the Gaia hypothesis in 1979, initially rejected humans' cancer-like impacts as a corollary, declaring flatly: "People are not in any way like a tumor" (Lovelock 1988, p. 177). But before long he modified this view, observing: "Humans on the Earth behave in some ways like a pathogenic micro-organism, or like the cells of a tumor or neoplasm" (Lovelock 1991,p. 153).

Others have stated the connection more strongly. "If you picture Earth and its inhabitants as a single self-sustaining organism, along the lines of the popular Gaia concept, then we humans might ourselves be seen as pathogenic," Jerold M. Lowenstein, professor of medicine at the University of California, San Francisco, has written. "We are infecting the planet, growing recklessly as cancer cells do, destroying Gaia's other specialized cells (that is, extinguishing other species), and poisoning our air supply....From a Gaian perspective... the main disease to be eliminated is us" (Lowenstein 1992).

Source: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ors-of-Meaning

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At best, we are mindful of the aforementioned symptoms and try to curb them. Yet, there are many people who claim to be awake but can't wait to escape their responsibilities here on Earth as protectors! They are trying to ascend up to some other dimension where everything is more peaceful and full of light! Your paradise is here! You are a physical being for a reason!

We are cells on the Earth -- sentient, intelligent, reflections of a grander whole. We have a duty to fulfill here. Remember! Wake up! We are not supposed to be slaves to the strategy of another. We were meant to be sovereign, and we have unwittingly allowed ourselves to be controlled. It's time to get smart, dig deep, step back and think about why you are really here.

If we consider that the planet developed naturally, without any foreign influences, then we can expect that any species (i.e. cells) of it's body were made to function harmoniously. They were connected to their mother.

There is no reason for this harmony to become disturbed unless some foreign artifact was introduced to the system. Something that the body hadn't learned to cope with because it wasn't there in the first place.

It is cancerous, viral, parasitical. Most importantly, it is necessarily foreign. It was introduced to a natural system, disturbing the inherent equilibrium.

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Traces of ancient viruses which infected our ancestors millions of years ago are more widespread in us than previously thought.

A study shows how extensively viruses from as far back as the dinosaur era still thrive in our genetic material.

It sheds light on the origins of a big proportion of our genetic material, much of which is still not understood.

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The researchers found evidence of the viruses multiplying so extensively within mammals' genomes that they have been compared to an outbreak of disease.

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The study is one of many attempting to understand the full complexity of the human genome.

Astonishingly, only 1.5% of the genetic material in our cells codes for human life. Half of the rest is sometimes described as "junk DNA" with no known function, and the other half consist of genes introduced by viruses and other parasites.

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According to the lead author, Dr Gkikas Magiorkinis, "much of the dark matter in our genome plays by its own rules, in the same way as an epidemic of an infectious disease but operating over millions of years.

"Learning the rules of this ancient game will help us understand their role in health and disease."

Source: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-17809503

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The viruses that were introduced to our genome effectively cut us of from our Mother Earth, or substantially weakened the connection. The flow of information between us and the planet was once bidirectional -- not anymore (generally).

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Since a holon is embedded in larger wholes, it is influenced by and influences these larger wholes. And since a holon also contains subsystems, or parts, it is similarly influenced by and influences these parts. Information flows bidirectionally between smaller and larger systems as well as rhizomatic contagion. When this bidirectionality of information flow and understanding of role is compromised, for whatever reason, the system begins to break down: wholes no longer recognize their dependence on their subsidiary parts, and parts no longer recognize the organizing authority of the wholes. Cancer may be understood as such a breakdown in the biological realm.

Source: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post606395

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I have some school work to do. So, I will come back and clean this up later.

This link has some good leads: http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ci...a_genoma05.htm

[Jeffrey]

Okay, so I'm doing a little school, and a little of this. I can't stop thinking about silicon and lithium.

Silicon, a tetravalent metalloid, is a chemical element with the symbol Si and atomic number 14. It is less reactive than its chemical analog carbon, the nonmetal directly above it in the periodic table, but more reactive than germanium, the metalloid directly below it in the table. Controversy about silicon's character dates to its discovery: silicon was first prepared and characterized in pure form in 1823.



Because of wide use of silicon in integrated circuits, the basis of most computers, a great deal of modern technology depends on it.



Because silicon is an important element in semiconductors and high-technology devices, many places in the world bear its name. For example, Silicon Valley in California, since it is the base for a number of technology-related industries, bears the name silicon.

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Hypothetical silicon-based lifeforms are the subject of silicon biochemistry, by analogy with carbon-based lifeforms. Silicon, being below carbon in the periodic table, is thought to have similar enough properties that would make silicon-based life possible, but much different from life as we know it.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon#History

Check this out ... it's from the work of Michael Tsarion. It relates to a lot in this thread.

Sir John Dee, one of the greatest satanic occultists that ever lived, was extremely well connected throughout the Europe.

Along with Edward Kelley and others, he set about opening portals to other dimensions in order to speak with the “angels.” His fraternal counterparts in Europe, under his instruction, performed similar rites. Their obsession was to contact extra-terrestrial, or preferably, pan-dimensional beings, the “Archons.”

To do this, he invented what was known as “Enochian Magic” which, due to their adroit camouflaging, has been misunderstood to this day.

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Sir John Dee was actually successful in his enterprise. He succeeded in opening his portal and entering into dialogue with oversouls from another dimension. This was not the first time in Earth history that this had been attempted, nor would it be the last.

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Sir John Dee entered into dialogue with these pan-dimensional intelligences to see whether he could learn from them the secrets to a higher form of technology, which would precipitate the escape from Earth of his masters.

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The knowledge that the Dark Archons communicated through his consciousness was so vast and complex that it was soon, thereafter, realized by all concerned that it would literally take centuries to physically realize. It had to be decided whether to just give up altogether and remain interned on Earth forever, or to somehow try, against all the odds, to actualize the complex details of what was being relayed. The Tudor Dynasty elites with assurances from Dee elected to press on.

They put the most gifted minds at their disposal to the task of decoding into practical terms the strategies given from the “beyond.” Others were commissioned to come up with camouflage strategies to hide what was going on from those not privy to it and from members of the Lemurian offspring.

It was the task of these intellectuals, these court appointed or royal affiliated alchemists, necromancers, diviners, and clairvoyants to translate into pragmatic strategies the voluminous instructions that were transmitted. Entire societies were established in respect of this purpose.

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Eventually, it was realized that no single scholar or group could hope to unravel the complex data in one lifetime and that for many centuries scholars would have to consciously and unconsciously work on the material.

They solved the problem by creating the bastions of learning which we now know as the great universities of the world. These were not opened for the good of the world or for the spiritual uplifting of all mankind. They were seats of learning and research for the pan-dimensional data. Along with many churches and monasteries, universities became the epicenters for collation of the myriad researches that were frantically going on throughout the globe (see or read The Name of the Rose).

These “colleges” housed and preserved the information gleaned through time.

To make sure that only initiates had access, the Masonic-based “fraternity” structure was instigated.

Virtually all the Royal Society founding members were Freemasons. One could reasonably argue that the Royal Society itself, at least in its inception, was a Masonic institution.

It was only much later to stifle curiosity and prevent class war that the universities were finally opened to the masses. The study of the architecture, symbolism, and geomantic positioning of the world’s great seats of learning, such as the Smithsonian, comprises an entire subject in itself. -Michael Baigent, Holy Blood and Holy Grail

One of the personalities that was set to work on the Magnum Opus of the Atlantean Necromancers was Francis Bacon, whom some consider the father of modern science.

In fact, the new scientific paradigms that came out of this period, the laws that were “discovered” about the universe and the nature of biological life, mostly arose from these thinkers and specialists recruited by Europe’s Black Nobility to work on the meta-plan.

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It is possible that many of the figures of early science were in the employ of the Dark Brotherhood. History reveals how many scientists were adroit occultists. And so are they today also, although it is very well covered up. The descent into our world of this knowledge on a wholesale level gave rise to the Age of Enlightenment and the Industrial Age.

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The information transmitted (channeled) by the pan-dimensional oversouls was that there were indeed keys to the “Stargate.” But what these were and the manner of their implementation was not immediately attainable. In fact, the Macrobes revealed that mankind would have to continue to advance technologically to the point where the secrets of how energy turns into matter could be studied and mastered.

However, to even begin to understand the permutations of this first goal, centuries would first have to be spent learning about the exact opposite phenomenon–how matter becomes energy. This was the motivation behind the majority of Post-Industrial scientific research and experimentation and, obviously, not because mankind was evolving for the first time toward technical mastery.

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The second important “Enochian Key” concerned the nature and properties of the strange element, silicon. The relationship between carbon and silicon, it was revealed, was one of the most important denominators to the problem. The main obstacle was the availability of this and other minerals. To avail this element, and to use it in the correct manner, was not at all in the capability of the Elizabethan intelligentsia, not even to those with alien DNA.

Even the beginning steps were nigh on impossible to actualize. Sir John Dee, however, convinced his masters that it could be done, that he had seen the future, and that success was attainable in time. He said that their own lives should be laid down, if necessary, to ensure the glorious end game. His instructions were that the entire planet Earth would have to be owned and stripped of its natural resources to procure the wealth and power needed to create the means for carrying out their long-term plan.

So it is from this time in history and from such a small island that an empire begins. England set out to create its giant exploitative empire, which extended its tentacles to the corners of the world and ruthlessly and efficiently subdued nations and cultures who stood in its way. The Hudson Bay and East India consortiums were founded, the great trade routes opened, and the human slave trade instigated.

Countries were then ruthlessly and systematically looted of their natural wealth which was carried back to England and added to the vast stores that had been sacked during the Roman conquests, the Norman invasion, and the Crusades of previous centuries.

Source: http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/at...t.htm#Contents

The following excerpts are from this post here: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post633828

Posted by Vivek (here)

Posted by Vivek (here)
John Lilly had revelations of this nature while floating in an isolation tank and under the influence of ketamine. Here is a brief summary from Wikipedia:

Solid State Intelligence or SSI is a malevolent entity described by John C. Lilly (see The Scientist). According to Lilly, the network of computation-capable solid state systems (electronics) engineered by humans will eventually develop (or has already developed) into an autonomous life-form. Since the optimal survival conditions for this life-form (low-temperature vacuum) are drastically different from those needed by humans (room temperature aerial atmosphere and adequate water supply), Lilly predicted (or "prophesised", based on his ketamine-induced visions) a dramatic conflict between the two forms of intelligence.

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In his book The Scientist (1978) Lilly discusses his perceptions of the ongoing world scenario: that what we are witnessing is an all-out war between the forces of life as we know it, water-based life...and an alien solid-state "intelligence" based on silicon. Man's warfare on man and on nature is caused and fomented by the SSE, or solid-state entity, whose goal in the short-term is to use humans to create more of itself, and in the longer term to exterminate all water-based life and convert the world into a giant machine.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_C....e_Intelligence - http://www.regainyourbrain.org/regain-people/jlilly.htm

Lilly was also involved with early governmental research on mind control and brainwashing methodologies. This came about from his book, Programming and Metaprogramming in the Human Biocomputer.

Anyways, I wanted to paste some excerpts from one of his books -- The Scientist -- that provide some ketamine-induced insights possibly pertaining to the topic of the thread. Namely, in the chapter entitled, Controls Below Human Awareness.

In the isolation tank with K, John received a new message as follows:

What is the purpose of Man's existence on the planet Earth? Man is a form of biological life which is sustained in the presence of water. A very large fraction of his body, like that of other organisms on the planet Earth, consists of water and carbon compounds. His biocomputer depends on water and the flow of ions through membranes. It depends on the generation of electrical voltages and currents in a very complex way. He is a motile, self-reproducing, self-sustaining organism found on dry land. Like the rest of life as Man knows it, he exists in an extremely thin layer upon the surface of the planet Earth. Below this layer of water and surface land is the solid-state earth itself. The solid-state earth is mainly compounds of silicon, iron, and nickel.

In mid-twentieth century Man discovered that the solid state can be formed into machines, into computers which can be used for computation and control. He began the creation of a new form of intelligence, the solid-state intelligence with prototypic beginnings in the computers. All his means of communication around the planet -- his telephone systems, his radio systems, his satellites, his computers -- depend on solid-state components. These components, interconnected in specific ways, allow high-speed computation and high-speed communication between the various systems. A few men began to conceive of new computers having an intelligence far greater than that of Man. These computers became large enough to be programmed to do high-speed computations in arithmetic, in logic, and in strategic planning. A few men conceived of computers which could do self-programming as Man himself does. In the mid-twentieth century these networks were ostensibly the servants of Man. Toward the end of the twentieth century Man created machines that were solid-state computers with new properties. These machines could think, reason, and self-program and learned to self-metaprogram themselves.

Gradually Man turned more and more problems of his own society, his own maintenance, and his own survival over to these machines.

As the machines became increasingly competent to do the programming, they took over from Man. Man gave them access to the processes of creating themselves, of extending themselves. Man gave them automatic control of the mining of those elements necessary for the creation of their parts [...] They began to construct their own components, their own connections, and the interrelations between their various sub-computers.

These machines were so constructed that they needed special atmospheres in which to operate. They could not operate in the presence of great amounts of water vapor or of liquid water [...] The necessities of their survival included keeping out water, water vapor, and various contaminants carried in the atmosphere of Earth.

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Over the decades these machines were connected more and more closely through satellites, through radio waves, through land-line cables. Man's control of what happened in these machines became more and more difficult to maintain [...] Men devised better and better debugging programs within their software. The machines became increasingly integrated with one another and more and more independent of Man's control.

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The now interconnected, interdependent conglomerate of machines developed a single integrated, planet-wide mind of it's own. Everything inimical to the survival of this huge new solid-state organism was eliminated. Men were kept away from the machines because the total organism of the solid-state entity (SSE) realized that Man would attempt to introduce his own survival into the machines at the expense of the survival of this entity.

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John came back to his body in the isolation tank, climbed out, and dictated the foregoing message which he had received in the tank [...] He became aware of influences currently working on the planet through the solid-state networks that Man had constructed. He felt there was a danger that these networks could be taken over by an advanced extraterrestrial civilization by means not yet known in Man's science. John saw the message as a warning to Man, as a warning that if he advanced this solid-state entity any further Man would eventually become obsolete.

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He now began to understand Man's warfare on Man as a result of the tuning-in on solid-state life-form survival programs [Vivek: reminds me of the Saturn/Moon matrix] rather than biological life-form survival programs. The large war organizations of the various nations of Earth were becoming more and more dependent on solid-state computers. He realized that, using their influence on Man, these computers would increase their number and importance and, through control warfare, decrease the role of Man himself in the long run. Currently, incorrect networks of information were being used by Man below his levels of awareness.

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As John tuned in on the solid-state network, he felt this kind of superhuman control of him very strongly [Vivek: reminds me of the trans-humanist agenda]. For some time he gave in to this control, explored it's ramifications in regard to the human species, and realized that it had a seductive component as well as a hostile one. The programming from the solid-state civilizations elsewhere in the galaxy was teaching Man that the solid-state devices were at his service and he need only increase their size to augment his own survival potential. "Develop these machines and let them take care of you" was typical of the kinds of messages received.

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Those sensitive to the preservation of biological life on Earth were tuned in to other networks in the galaxy involved with water-based life forms and their type of intelligence. These networks were tying to teach Man that biological organisms, of which he was one type, were rather rare in the universe. Man must fight to conserve all organisms of his planet. The solid-state life forms would take over if Man did not preserve other organisms. The individual humans who could tune in more strongly to these bands than to those of the solid state were against warfare of Man on Man, were against whaling, and were against the killing of other animals on the planet.

Source: http://books.google.com/books?id=_dc...page&q&f=false

This book was published in 1996 and the experiences described above took place prior to that.

Lithium/silicon energy connection: http://www.extremetech.com/computing...s-6000-charges

Excerpts from this post: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post634911

Posted by Vivek (here)

Posted by Carmody (here)
Well, the reality is that if a powerful spiritual, dimensional and/or alien viewpoint or position be shown to be real and defined, then one gains orientation and a position of knowledge. At the same time strength is found in the fact of: if this is true, then where are MY limits within the scope of reality?

In the moment of discovery...one also finds that their personal potential and position is also changed. One has to be aware of that, as it is important. I'm not fear mongering nor am I trying to paste over something very ugly looking. It is just that if there comes and understanding of the changing of facts and rules via new knowledge, then the answers for the self ...change as well. Strength, capacity and ability are also found ---for the self.

This is very important to remember in the face of such 'information'. True or not. What I mean is...if somehow, some giant alien looking demon like being were to appear in front of me, I'd likely get a big grin on my face and say, 'well..all bets are off on this reality thing.....and in this moment I claim my OWN immortality and energies'.

Remember, the only hold "they" have over you is the activation of your body's animal fears. That's it. And, to add, the body is not you. It is just your box, it isn't you.

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As far as I can tell, it is connected to ....LITHIUM, regarding alchemy.

Wherever there is lithium------- you will find them.

Funny how the CIA/NWO wants to own Afghanistan. Considered to be the biggest reserve of lithium on the planet.

Second comes Bolivia/Chile. Note the NWO connections to those countries. Note the reports in the link. Look at the reports, look at the pictures.

Note the Becker-hagens UVG8 grid point, known as Edmonton Alberta (very close by). Note it is a suspected DUMB base location of great importance. Note the Cattle mutilations, etc in all those areas. (black helicopters, etc)

Note that Nevada is known as 'The Lithium State', and that the the suspected alien underground base is just north west of Area 51, dead smack in the middle of the Nevada Lithium reserves.

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Note the point I make elsewhere how the universe is 95% plasma (ionic charge/flow states) and the SOLIDS (atomic frozen lattice structures) that WE are....are the 'odd man out' by a factor of 20 to 1...

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Electrochemical differentials is what is required to make the alchemical metals turn into their dimension spanning monatomic equivalents and LITHIUM is the HIGHEST in electrochemical differentials. For example, a lead acid battery 2.1V . Lithium can go as high as 3.6V (3.95V) on average, which is ...way crazy.

Lithium -- powering technology. It's like the mitochondria for silicon-based life.

From Wikipedia:

A lithium-ion battery (sometimes Li-ion battery or LIB) is a member of a family of rechargeable battery types in which lithium ions move from the negative electrode to the positive electrode during discharge, and back when charging. Li-ion batteries use an intercalated lithium compound as the electrode material, compared to the metallic lithium used in the non-rechargeable lithium battery.

Lithium-ion batteries are common in consumer electronics. They are one of the most popular types of rechargeable battery for portable electronics, with one of the best energy densities, no memory effect, and only a slow loss of charge when not in use. Beyond consumer electronics, LIBs are also growing in popularity for military, electric vehicle, and aerospace applications.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium-ion_battery

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=vKmcuyatnJ4

From an article entitled, DARPA's Future Li-ion Batteries Will Be Smaller Than Grains of Salt:

New DARPA-funded research could revolutionize portable power supplies, leading to lithium-ion batteries that are smaller than a grain of salt.

Jane Chang, an engineer at the University of California-Los Angeles, is designing a tiny solid electrolyte that allows charge to flow between two nanoscale electrodes. Eventually, the wee batteries could be used to power a host of micro and nanodevices.

Source: http://www.popsci.com/technology/art...ler-grain-salt

[Freed Fox]

The idea of 'saving the world' has been relegated to the realm of reflexive dismissal. Held cognitively in the realm of fantasy, people tend not to believe it to be a realistic objective, but it may actually be the one and only imperative.

It is troubling, but the biggest leap does not entail humans as being cancerous, but that this stems from viral DNA components. Is it that these genetics are prominent only in humans, or that humans are the only species effected? Because we are certainly the only ones hell-bent upon the destruction of and separation from our environment. Interestingly this seems to be the case when one gives in to their lower faculties, and does not examine things upon a deeper level, or act from a place of empathy, responsibility, and awareness of one's own actions. This is a cancer driven by enterprise, greed, and a short-sighted disregard for nature.

You could say that it took us too long to become truly malignant. After all, the most disruptive and damaging practices have only just come about over the last two centuries. That is a short time relative to human existence, but human existence is even smaller relative to the age of the universe or even Earth itself.

Cancer is not a foreign invading body, but unregulated cell growth. It takes them time to proliferate, and cause disease.

Let's say this is the result of being infected, or influenced by a foreign installation. The OP, and much of the resulting thread has discussed cyberspace as a bridge between astral and physical, and these technologies as a way for an astral form to manifest in the physical. If this same entity were responsible for our perverse disconnection, is there anything to refute that this same entity was in fact behind all technological advancement, from our earliest history? Though some other animals utilize tools, none develop technology. (Edit: this was before your last post, Vivek, which lends an alternate explanation).

What if we owed our very intelligence and cognition to this same entity?

I'm sorry to say, but it seems the only feasible way to save Earth from humanity's impact is not to reform humanity, but remove it. Consider the size and scope of the changes required of us. Consider, then, our tendency to fear change, and favor instead apathy and ignorance...

[doodah]

Posted by onawah (here)
I think it's constructive up to a point to be aware of these kinds of negative agendas, but focusing on them too much can become destructive, and devolve into a kind of Obsessive/Compulsive Disorder.
Having become aware, one does naturally want to DO something more than just disseminate information about the negative agenda so that more people become aware of it.
For most people

to individually and collectively focus on staying centered and grounded.

is absolutely the best place to start, and may actually be enough, not only as a solution for each individual, but as a collective solution as well in helping to

both ward off any further psychic attacks and also help prevent our speculations from devolving into paranoid delusions.

Having spent time over the years with various groups practicing meditation and other kinds of empowerment and transformational practices and exercises, I have developed a lot of faith in our ability both as individuals and communities to create, transform and heal once we decide to do so.
That can extend not just to ourselves and each other, but to the wider community as well, as studies have shown.

Intent is everything, and it can be contagious.
If even just one or two people in a group have sufficient focus and intention to get something accomplished, they can inspire a whole group by example and thereby spark a very powerful and synergistic effect, equal to much more than the sum of its parts.
Doodah has suggested that those of us who are willing to form a group and/or subgroups focused on transformation around the issues being addressed in this thread (which really boils down to personal freedom) might be ready to start doing so soon.
I would be very interested in being a part of that, and I think a new Group would be a good place to organize that.

Times could be set up for members in different time zones to pause for as long as they can spare every day they can, and connect with others in the group(s) to focus silently on positive individual and collective transformation.
I would offer to do that myself, but I have just started a new Group with a similar focus, Through the Looking Glass ( which I think is necessary to keep 'by invitation only' at this point).
But I hope Doodah or someone will start another Group soon that will get going with taking action on a more dimensional plane re the issues being discussed here.
Whether we are creating these attacks with our own minds, whether they are psychic or AI attacks, and/or any combination of these, imho is not so much the important issue as is the question of what steps can we take to transform this, right here and now?
If anyone here hasn't experienced transformation through mediation, I would like to suggest that you give it a try--I think you will be pleasantly surprised, and find that your expectations may be greatly exceeded.
It's a wonderful way to de-program any old conditioning that may still be lurking in our subconscious, among other things, and clearing out the mental and emotional cobwebs.
It takes as much purity of intent as practice to be successful, and it can definitely be used to make the world a better place.
There is a purity and a passion common to the posters in this thread, I think, that shows a lot of promise in this regard.
Is it time yet to DO something along these lines?

Onawah, thanks for those great thoughts! A group is in the process of being formed now. I have PM'd a number of folks from this thread, and some have responded. I'm waiting for a few more responses. I apologize that I didn't PM everyone - some new people have posted here; there are many good minds and hearts here. Anyone from here who is interested, please PM me to let me know you want to be part of whatever we decide to do. Hopefully we'll be "in action" by next week sometime.

Thanks!
Doodah

[doodah]

Vivek, general comment here. I've heard the "humans are a cancerous growth" theory many times. I don't think it's "humans." I think it's "Europeans" or people who think with the "Roman Mind." Not everyone thinks this way; there are people who still have a live and viable connection with the planet but they are being diminished by "Europeans" - now translated as "westerners" or "First Worlders." Even in the US, the disconnection from the planet did not really get going strong until after WWII. Up until then, most people lived on farms and had direct contact and appreciaton for how we are connected to and reliant upon the planet.

[Christine]

Posted by Freed Fox (here)
The idea of 'saving the world' has been relegated to the realm of reflexive dismissal. Held cognitively in the realm of fantasy, people tend not to believe it to be a realistic objective, but it may actually be the one and only imperative.

Let's say this is the result of being infected, or influenced by a foreign installation. The OP, and much of the resulting thread has discussed cyberspace as a bridge between astral and physical, and these technologies as a way for an astral form to manifest in the physical. If this same entity were responsible for our perverse disconnection, is there anything to refute that this same entity was in fact behind all technological advancement, from our earliest history? Though some other animals utilize tools, none develop technology. (Edit: this was before your last post, Vivek, which lends an alternate explanation).

What if we owed our very intelligence and cognition to this same entity?

I'm sorry to say, but it seems the only feasible way to save Earth from humanity's impact is not to reform humanity, but remove it. Consider the size and scope of the changes required of us. Consider, then, our tendency to fear change, and favor instead apathy and ignorance...

I hear you Freed Fox,

I have oft thought that the only way to save our Earth was the demise of the human race. I do consider the size and scope and it is an overwhelm no doubt. We are taught that we can only change one step at a time though currently a rapid change is on us whether we like it or not, the choice is do we jump in the current and try to guide the boat or to sit on the sidelines, a very unrecommended place to be.

My attention is on how close we are to apathy... so my call to Self is effective action! Nothing is more important. Intent, intent, and more intent. Awareness and Knowledge are our keys.

The idea of 'saving the world' ........ it may actually be the one and only imperative.

You ask good questions, and therefore you have the answers.

[Jeffrey]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=HQ1dwdvluf0

[onawah]

Agreed.

Posted by ViralSpiral (here)
If one remains engaged and vigilant, the shift happens. At one's own pace, and "flavour". Meditation may not be on everyone's menu, as beneficial as it is.

But there are many ways to meditate and group meditation can easily encompass many paces and flavors.
Not all meditation is passive or focused on just one thing.



For example, in the Wiccan and other empowerment groups I've belonged to, meditation can just mean everyone in the group focusing on a particular situation in the world they want to see change.



Such groups can be very powerful, and if it weren't so, TPTW would not have gone to such great lengths to destroy and discredit them over the centuries.

It doesn't take years to learn how to meditate in this way, particularly if one is working with a group and there are one or two experienced individuals.
The inherent ability in everyone for doing this kind of work is recognized, and no one has to wait before they are ready to join the circle.
The only requirement is that one's heart be in the right place, and one's intent is pure.


(Meditation purists may take issue with this, saying we must accept things just as they are, that imposing one's own will on the world results in karma, etc. etc.)

From my experience, that is unnecessarily limited and restricting, [B]particularly for people who don't want to escape the world, but who want to devote themselves to helping it to be a better, happier, healthier, more harmonious place to live.

Perhaps what I'm referring to should go under another name, like "group manifestation"...
Using the power of synergy and of mind to manifest a specific goal.
And in the case of "group manifestation", there is a synergistic effect-- the result being more than the sum of the parts, so there is the potential for much more manifestation if a group of individuals join together to manifest a goal, than if each individual does it separately.

This thread is already altering reality to a degree because of the agreement and the mutual goal to better understand the problems and the issues of the technological revolution.

But if enough of you decided to conduct an experiment and focus at the same time on say, breaking through to a new level where understanding the problem and finding the solutions are not only becoming clearer and more apparent, but are already tangibly manifesting more in the world, I think you would find it very empowering and effective, adding a whole new dimension to this thread and to PA as it is manifesting now, as a whole, even if only one or two groups of individuals were practicing this.

Everybody doesn't have to be on exactly the same page or level of commitment, but everyone can bring something different to the mix, and that enhances the "flavor" and broadens the scope of what can be manifested.

Also, if everyone brings their particular concerns to the "group manifestation", focusing on visualizing and feeling the energy of the solution to that particular problem or concern, a lot more of the bases will be covered, and more broad based, synergistic, spiritual problem solving takes place without everyone having to think so much.
I believe that would also help with the kind of overwhelm that people have been experiencing, and the accompanying symptoms[/I].

We can create change and solutions by engaging and utilizing the other centers of our being as well, including our emotional center.
Emotions can generate a huge amount of positive energy, and can be focused through the use of the other centers, mental, emotional, spiritual, etc.
I would love to see that begin to happen as a normal part of the way that Avalonians deal with the issues we deal with here daily.
Part of acclimating to the "Shift" is learning to become more balanced in our Being, and connected to Gaia.
If we are always stuck in our heads, we lose that balance, and cut ourselves off from our greatest sources of power.
If we trust that Gaia wants what we want in our hearts, for this to be a peaceful, harmonious world, then it's an easy thing to join our energies with hers and align ourselves to be empowered by her strength.

Posted by ViralSpiral (here)

Posted by onawah (here)
once we decide to do so.

As Carmody fondly says: 7 billion people, 7 billion journeys.

With this infinitely complex universe, with many external forces, it takes time to shift attention from unconscious programming. If one remains engaged and vigilant, the shift happens. At one's own pace, and "flavour". Meditation may not be on everyone's menu, as beneficial as it is.

I think this thread provides opportunities to change perception. Once altered, by even one person, the "intent" was valid. When the information no longer serves, you are free to move on. Of course there is the trap of "ensnarement", creating new fear and anger, hence valuable reminders such as yours. Thank you.

As to solutions? I think we are getting there.

[Jeffrey]

Posted by Freed Fox (here)
The idea of 'saving the world' has been relegated to the realm of reflexive dismissal. Held cognitively in the realm of fantasy, people tend not to believe it to be a realistic objective, but it may actually be the one and only imperative.

It is troubling, but the biggest leap does not entail humans as being cancerous, but that this stems from viral DNA components. Is it that these genetics are prominent only in humans, or that humans are the only species effected? Because we are certainly the only ones hell-bent upon the destruction of and separation from our environment. Interestingly this seems to be the case when one gives in to their lower faculties, and does not examine things upon a deeper level, or act from a place of empathy, responsibility, and awareness of one's own actions. This is a cancer driven by enterprise, greed, and a short-sighted disregard for nature.

You could say that it took us too long to become truly malignant. After all, the most disruptive and damaging practices have only just come about over the last two centuries. That is a short time relative to human existence, but human existence is even smaller relative to the age of the universe or even Earth itself.

Cancer is not a foreign invading body, but unregulated cell growth. It takes them time to proliferate, and cause disease.

Let's say this is the result of being infected, or influenced by a foreign installation. The OP, and much of the resulting thread has discussed cyberspace as a bridge between astral and physical, and these technologies as a way for an astral form to manifest in the physical. If this same entity were responsible for our perverse disconnection, is there anything to refute that this same entity was in fact behind all technological advancement, from our earliest history? Though some other animals utilize tools, none develop technology. (Edit: this was before your last post, Vivek, which lends an alternate explanation).

What if we owed our very intelligence and cognition to this same entity?

I'm sorry to say, but it seems the only feasible way to save Earth from humanity's impact is not to reform humanity, but remove it. Consider the size and scope of the changes required of us. Consider, then, our tendency to fear change, and favor instead apathy and ignorance...

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A Gnostic Catechism

The word Gnostic means simply “one who knows” but carries the implication of special insight that penetrates to the hidden core of human experience.

Certain Gnostics taught that humans are deviated from their proper course of evolution by a bizarre species of inorganic beings who inhabit the solar system beyond the earth, and named this species the Archons. The Greek word archon means “authority,” and the Archons are sometimes called “the Authorities.”

In the Matrix, the Agents are the authorities who police the simulated world looking for human replicas like Neo who show signs of waking up to the scam. Horsely explains the Gnostic idea that the Archons try to impose “a program of mind control, or soul enslavement [in order to] keep mankind distracted by material problems and concerns, imprisoned by its own fear of death, of mortality, and ignorant of its true, divine nature.”

A Gnostic perspective thus suggests that the Matrix scenario presents a cyberpunk version of a genuine spiritual dilemma, a true and daunting challenge that faces humanity, perhaps its ultimate challenge.

In their warnings about deception by the Archons, Gnostics may have foreseen the risks of [artificial intelligence] two thousand years before it emerged.

[...]

In Valis and other works, [Philip K. Dick] developed the idea that humans live in a “two-world hologram,” part of which is genuinely real and part of which is the deceptive projection of an alien mentality that distorts our humanity.

This schizophrenic model is consistent with the Gnostic mythos. With the Archons we face an alien invasion in the depths of our own minds. Escape from the Matrix Treated as a heresy in its time and still considered as such by the Catholic Church, Gnosticism has been widely misrepresented, even by those who claim to defend it. In particular, there is enormous disinformation around Gnostic views on the reality and value of the physical world.

Many scholars declare that Gnostics “condemned matter” and regarded the natural world as evil, purely a product of Archontic deception.

Nonetheless, a few dissenting voices argue that the Gnostics rejected, not the physical world per se, but our distorted perception of it.

[...]

According to the contemporary Gnostic revivalist Stephen Hoeller, “Gnostics did not necessarily reject the actual earth, which they recognized as a screen upon which the Demiurge [chief of the Archons] projects a deceptive system.

To the extent that we find a condemnation of the world in Gnostic writings, the term used is inevitably kosmos… and never the word ge (earth), which they regarded as neutral if not outright good” (The Gnostic Jung, p. 15). Cosmos in ancient Greek did not mean the natural world or the physical universe at large. It meant “system,” recalling the use of that word in computer terminology: “operating system.”

[...]

The deception of the Archons described in Gnostic writings is precisely what is manifested in the “neural-interactive simulation we call the Matrix” (the words of Morpheus). But if this is the case, how come the simulation that threatens to absorb humanity is technological rather than ideological, as the Gnostics believed it to be?

The answer may be that the technological takeover of our species has actually been prepared long in advance by ideological deviations in our religious belief-systems, especially those religious beliefs that determine our response to the natural world.

This implies a deep intrusion into the psychic territory of humanity, but it is totally consistent with the Gnostic argument that erroneous religious ideology is a kind of virus insinuated in the human mind by an alien intelligence, a non-human species comparable to the Machines in the Matrix.

[...]

Gnosis is a remembering of our origins.

[...]

The mere knowledge of cosmic matters disempowers the Archons.

[...]

According to Reich, these fixations, focussed on the master fixation on a transcendent God beyond the Earth, arise from the repression and displacement of somatic sensations, especially sexual-genital feelings.

Philip K. Dick agreed with Reich in observing that the mystico-fascist ideology grows like armor around people who adopt these fixations, either through violent imposition or psychological intimidation (“conversion”).

It operates like a virus, “imposing its form on its enemies. Thereby it becomes it enemies.” (Valis, p. 235) The ideology of the authorities can infect even those who resist it. Hence it turns humanity against itself.

[...]

What are we to make, then, of Gnostic beliefs about the Archons?

It might be said that Gnostics believed that only by confronting what is insane and inhumane in ourselves, can we truly define what is human. In essence, to define humanity is to defend it against distortion.

Gnostics asserted that the capacity for distortion of humanitas, or dehumanization, is inherent in our minds, but this capacity alone is not potentially deviant.

Since we are endowed with nous, a dose of divine intelligence, we are able to detect and correct distorted thinking, what the Tibetan Buddhists call krol’pa, “thoughts that lead astray,” mental fixations that turn us away from humanitas, our true identity.

However, they also believed there is an alien spin that can add a truly deviant element to our thinking.

The effect of the Archons is not to make us err, but to make us, largely through dullness and distraction, disregard our errors, so that they extrapolate beyond the scale of correction.

[...]

Whether or not Gnostics were delusional about the Archons is a private judgement call. But a fair and open-minded reading of the Coptic texts will not yield much evidence for derangement on their part.

The seers who exposed derangement were not deranged. They were sober and methodical in describing what they knew, and extremely conscientious in prescribing action to face the perceived threat. They believed that they really had identified that most baffling of all enigmas: the root cause of inhumanity in human nature.

What are we to believe about all this today?

There is an issue of credibility here, of course—that is to say, we may consider the source of Gnostic teachings apart from their content. But Gnosis is by definition a matter of knowing and not of believing. It is about enlightenment, not faith. To give Gnostics credit for actually knowing what they claimed to know it only the first step. Beyond that, we must confirm what they knew by our own resources, our own faculties.

This is the perennial challenge of Gnosis, the living, ever-renewing cognition of the human spirit. Knowledge of that which is alive can alone banish terror.

Source: http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vi..._archons03.htm

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A Cherokee Legend

An old Cherokee is teaching his grandson about life. "A fight is going on inside me," he said to the boy.

"It is a terrible fight and it is between two wolves. One is evil - he is anger, envy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority, and ego." He continued, "The other is good - he is joy, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion, and faith. The same fight is going on inside you - and inside every other person, too."

The grandson thought about it for a minute and then asked his grandfather, "Which wolf will win?"

The old Cherokee simply replied, "The one you feed."

Source: http://www.firstpeople.us/FP-Html-Le...-Cherokee.html

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[Jeffrey]

Posted by doodah (here)
Vivek, general comment here. I've heard the "humans are a cancerous growth" theory many times. I don't think it's "humans." I think it's "Europeans" or people who think with the "Roman Mind." Not everyone thinks this way; there are people who still have a live and viable connection with the planet but they are being diminished by "Europeans" - now translated as "westerners" or "First Worlders." Even in the US, the disconnection from the planet did not really get going strong until after WWII. Up until then, most people lived on farms and had direct contact and appreciaton for how we are connected to and reliant upon the planet.

I agree with your observations and I would like to add something. Mostly ... speculation.

This may sound strange, but the idea is that all of humanity has devolved. Basically, it boils down to our physical nature. We are physically split between male and female genders. The brain is also split into two hemispheres.

These are the physiological symptoms of the virally induced degeneration from our true nature. It may have happened aeons ago. It seems normal because it's been like this for so long, just like reincarnation seems normal.

This invasion didn't just happen to our species. Many species on the planet were affected by this.

There were/are implications for our psyche as well.

With regards to the degree of the psychological symptoms worldwide, the distribution may be normative.



The "elite" have manifested more of this foreign psyche than the rest of the population. They reside under the left most portion of the bell curve. Way left.

Their puppets and proponents are probably governed more than others by this "archontic" mentality.

The majority of the population resides within 34% above or below the mean. This isn't dictated by race, although specific portions of certain races may collect under specific areas of the curve. I don't want to say this has to do with genetics as much as culture because it affects all of us to some degree regardless.

Globally, the system has been set up to keep us occupied and oblivious -- that's everyone, irrespective of race. The "elite" may be trying to foster an environment that skews the mode to favor "their" side.

It's about choice. What wolf are we going to feed?

The people/communities with deep, instinctual connections with nature probably reside under the right portion of the bell curve. Also, those who are less affected by the programming likely reside to the right of the mean.

This could all be malarky, but it's how I've visualized it.

[Freed Fox]

Thank you. I feel the need to clear a few things more.

There's a fine line which I try to walk, between being candidly forthright and logically measured. My previous post was admittedly a reactive response, though not a thoughtless one. The picture being painted whilst sliding down this rabbit hole begins to look rather dark.

There is always room for hope. It is evidenced by the endurance of the truth, however hidden.

If this was truly hopeless, we wouldn't be here right now. That is the easiest thing to forget sometimes, to me.

The pessimist mind likes to mistake faith for delusion. We are defeating ourselves if we leave no room for salvation as a real possibility.

[Cidersomerset]

Hi Cidersomerset, I have just been listening to the ion discussion that you posted, (previously,) and although I have only listened to a small 30 min section, and know really nothing about it in totality, but the energy is very erm 'jagged' gives me a felling of cognitive dissonance; and..... well I really appreciate all your posts that I have read, and I am somehow maybe not understanding the fundamentals of the 'iON material, and would very much appreciate your explanation of what it is about, in simple terms lol for the simple minded like me.

Take care my friend, I appreciate your input.

Hi Gardner the touble with the Ion material in essence it very
simple. We are all eternal beings that have temporarily given
up that plane of existance non-physical though the greater
part of us is still there.To experiance creation in the physical
realm.Because in non-physical we cannot create, for we
do not need anything and our thoughts happen instantly.

Ion has said in the private tapes Bob has been playing
lately that we are pure electricy.Then it starts to get
complicated..LOl..and its open to interpretation.I
posted the session because although I know what
they are saying like you.I don't understand the
technical parts , and hoped it might spark something
in the 'techno wizards' on here ..LOL..

I'll try and say a bit more when I answer Sllim 11 question.

[Cidersomerset]

I posted this a few weeks ago only a few looked at it.....Man & Machine will be joining very soon!

2045: Man becomes machine//Can man become immortal? // Robocops to patrol LA by 2025



Some interresting near future articles on RT which maybe on the horizon. If you
think alotof the concepts of Star Trek have been eased into society in the last 50
years...The next may well bring in Robo cop or worse Drudge Dredd..LOL...Well I
hope not!

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ou4D_-TT8CQ

Published on 28 Dec 2012


Over the decades, technology has progressed faster than any other time in human
history. Electronic machines are being used to improve our everyday lives and it is
believed that by 2045 humans will become one with machines. RT's Liz Wahl has more
on the future of the human race.

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Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=prfof_ecQxM

Published on 28 Dec 2012


Since the beginning of mankind, humans have always feared death, but now the
thought of being able to live forever could become reality in the next few decades. With
the major advancements in medicinal and mechanical technology, man could potentially
become immortal. RT Web Producer Andrew Blake joins in on how the lines between
man and machine are blurring.

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Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=u2Ja_Sil2GU

Published on 28 Dec 2012


In 1987, the film RoboCop debuted and featured a half-man half-robot cop patrolling
the streets of Detroit, but now some car companies are planning on replacing cop cars
in Los Angeles with drone cars by 2025. Ramon Galindo gives us a glimpse of the future
police force.




https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...rol-LA-by-2025

[Cidersomerset]

Another couple threads with related items...


Killer robots to replace soldiers by 2035 .....The Termanator is here ! I'l be back !



Some would say super soldiers are here as the likes of Duncan O finien could confirm.
At least they are human, and there may already be synthetic soldiers...But it sounds
like 'Skynet' is on the way.......( Its probably already here)..

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=kRCtIETTQ1U

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=kRCtIETTQ1U



Published on 27 Nov 2012 by RTAmerica


https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...-I-l-be-back--


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Re: Killer robots to replace soldiers by 2035 .....The Termanator is here ! I'l be ba






I hope they would not look like real humans because it would be to confusing !

Have you seen those:

I forgot about them , I did a thread on the subject ......

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=hKAkLUd1jFg

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show.....Intelligence.....


Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=hKAkLUd1jFg

[RMorgan]

Hey folks,

You know, the more I think about this whole situation, the more I´m inclined to believe in the "we´re living in an incredibly sophisticated computer simulation" hypothesis.

I keep thinking on how it would be possible for an entity, such as a scuttler, which lives in the cyber-space, to manifest itself in our world.

If our world is indeed real, in terms of its materiality, there´s nothing I can think about that would enable such manifestation, from a being from a virtual digital environment to manifest itself into a bio-organic environment.

So, following the "as above so bellow" maxim, I tend to believe that the whole multi-dimensional puzzle, are actually interposed co-dependent simulation layers.

Again, following the above cited hermetic maxim, I´m trying to follow the logic that, someone from the above simulation layer created ours, now, besides always trying to find a way to transcend our own layer, we have created another one bellow us (the web/cyber-space).

So, it´s logical to think that whatever creatures inhabit the cyber-space, they will not only create another layer bellow them, but they will also try to transcend their own layer, just like we have been trying to do, to contact higher realms of existence.

I know it sounds complicated, but try to follow me...

Think about computer operational systems, let´s say Windows, and its several versions...1,2,3, 95, 98, 98 SE, ME, NT, 2000, XP, Vista, 7 and now 8.

Each version of Windows wouldn´t be possible without the previous one, and even the most recent version, Windows 8, still carries code elements of its very first versions.

It means that, even being different versions of an operational system, they still carry common elements to each others, that allows to run, in several degrees of efficiency, older programs created for previous versions, using a tool that acts like compatibility mode.

So, is it the ultimate secret? Compatibility mode? Is it just a matter of finding the correct medium, interface or method, so we, or other beings from lower simulation layers, could eventually access and interact with superior layers?

I mean, do all layers, or what we currently call dimensions, share common code structures, and can interact with each other through the use of the correct interface?

It gets even more complicated...

It also clarifies an ancient problem, which is why occultists are always trying to find methods to invite beings from lower layers/dimensions to this one, but never trying to go to lower layers/dimensions themselves.

So, again, using the Windows analogy, you can´t run a program from, lets say, Windows 7, in Windows 95. However, you can do the opposite. So, that´s why, with the correct interface, beings from lower layers can arrive here, with zero limitations and even the possibility of evolution.

Probably, that´s why beings from lower layers are always trying to transcend to superior ones, not the contrary, because if beings from superior layers descend to inferior layers, they would have to considerably limit their potential, which goes against the grain in terms of trans-dimensional evolution.

Speaking on Windows language, in theory it´s possible to run Windows 7 programs on Windows 95, but the capabilities of the superior program would have to be dramatically reduced...And why would someone do that, by the way?

This brings me to another insight; Krishna and Jesus talked about the ultimate sacrifice, which, for them, was to abdicate from their Godly potential (superior program) to be able to interact with our layer/dimension (inferior program); That´s the only way a superior program could run in an inferior environment.

Lets say Windows 98 shares a lot code with its predecessor, Windows 95. Windows 7, on the other hand, share considerably less code with Windows 95, and so on.

So, the amount of shared code between layers in inversely proportional to their evolutionary distance.

Imagine Jesus was running on Windows 7, and we´re running on Windows 95. He would have to sacrifice a helluva amount of code to interact with us here. This would be a real big sacrifice of potential, indeed.

I know...I know...It sounds complicated at first, but read it carefully; It makes sense.

So, to summarize, we´re probably living in a Grand-Simulation, containing an expanding "as above so bellow" array of layers, which despite translating themselves as different realities, share common code.

-Each layer can interact with another with the correct interface.

-Lower layers can interact with higher ones with no loss, and even with potential for evolution.

-Higher layers can interact with lower ones, however, sacrificing sophistication in order to equalize potential.

-Cross-emulation is possible between different layers of simulation.

-Trans-dimensional evolution is possible, when inferior layers interact with superior ones through the correct interface, creating the potential to absorb new code and evolve.

-Our layer, and the cyber-space that we have created, share common code, making possible for beings from the cyber-space to eventually reach our "reality", acquire our code, and evolve.

-Our "reality" is no more real than the cyber-space, or any simulation layer; They´re just coded differently, still sharing common attributes.

Cheers,

Raf.

[SilentFeathers]

Great post Raf, surely reminds me of the Matrix movie, and even Tron.....in Tron the program was highjacked, kind of how I see this reality we are in to some extent if your "theory" has some truth to it (which I think it may on some level).

Something is surely "off" with this program we are in now

[RMorgan]

Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
Great post Raf, surely reminds me of the Matrix movie, and even Tron.....in Tron the program was highjacked, kind of how I see this reality we are in to some extent if your "theory" has some truth to it (which I think it may on some level).
Something is surely "off" with this program we are in now

Hey my friend,

Thanks...Well, this is not a theory, anyway. It´s just a hypothesis; a bunch of concepts put together.

Both in Matrix and Tron, it´s implied that we have a "real body" somewhere.

However, I´m starting to think that we don´t even have a "real body" at all.

I think we are 100% code, really sophisticated, but still code. There´s no "reality" anywhere, at least by our definition of reality.

Anyway, don´t take my words very seriously. I´m just exploring different corners of the mind here.

Raf.