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    Beliefs that are held by many, once institutionalized, the good of the many is lost. The many are still present, however, The institution has hi-jacked their beliefs. Now the many are bewildered. As in what the heck has happened? Only now the institution only cares about self-preservation.

    I am figuratively scratching my head over many things. It is all a muddle.

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    Saint Peter's bones: Vatican exhumes old argument with plan to show 'relics'
    For the first time in nearly 2,000 years, fragments of bone held to be those of the apostle
    will go on public display.. Go here



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    This, coming from the head of one of the richest institutions in the world, should be interesting. I approve the sentiment and hope he sets an example for others to follow:

    Pope Francis 'Evangelii Gaudium' Calls For Renewal Of Roman Catholic Church, Attacks 'Idolatry Of Money'

    "(Reuters) - Pope Francis called for renewal of the Roman Catholic Church and attacked unfettered capitalism as "a new tyranny", urging global leaders to fight poverty and growing inequality in the first major work he has authored alone as pontiff.

    The 84-page document, known as an apostolic exhortation, amounted to an official platform for his papacy, building on views he has aired in sermons and remarks since he became the first non-European pontiff in 1,300 years in March.

    In it, Francis went further than previous comments criticizing the global economic system, attacking the "idolatry of money" and beseeching politicians to guarantee all citizens "dignified work, education and healthcare".

    He also called on rich people to share their wealth. "Just as the commandment 'Thou shalt not kill' sets a clear limit in order to safeguard the value of human life, today we also have to say 'thou shalt not' to an economy of exclusion and inequality. Such an economy kills," Francis wrote in the document issued on Tuesday.

    "How can it be that it is not a news item when an elderly homeless person dies of exposure, but it is news when the stock market loses 2 points?"

    The pope said renewal of the Church could not be put off and said the Vatican and its entrenched hierarchy "also need to hear the call to pastoral conversion".

    "I prefer a Church which is bruised, hurting and dirty because it has been out on the streets, rather than a Church which is unhealthy from being confined and from clinging to its own security," he wrote.



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    I thought this was some interesting Vatican news (sorry if it has already been posted):

    Quote Vatican embassy move draws fire from former US envoys
    by John L. Allen Jr. | Nov. 20, 2013

    Plans to move the U.S. embassy to the Vatican onto the grounds of the larger American embassy to Italy, though in a separate building and with a distinct entrance, are drawing fire from five former American envoys despite the tacit consent of the Vatican itself.

    Justified primarily on the grounds of enhanced security, the move is described by former U.S. Ambassador James Nicholson, who's also a former Secretary of Veterans Affairs in the Bush administration and a former chair of the Republican National Committee, as a "massive downgrade" in U.S./Vatican ties.

    "It's turning this embassy into a stepchild of the embassy to Italy," Nicholson said.

    "The Holy See is a pivot point for international affairs and a major listening post for the United States," he said, "and to shoehorn [the U.S. delegation] into an office annex inside another embassy is an insult to American Catholics and to the Vatican."

    Nicholson, who spoke in an interview Wednesday with NCR, joins former Bush envoys Francis Rooney and Mary Ann Glendon as well as Raymond Flynn, the first Clinton ambassador, and Thomas Melady, who served the first President Bush, in objecting.

    "In the diplomatic world, if you don't have your own separate space, you're on the road to nowhere," said Rooney, who served as ambassador from 2005 to 2008. He's author of The Global Vatican, a new book on U.S./Vatican relations.

    While the move has not yet been publicly announced, a contract for renovations to the new facility has been awarded, and it's tentatively scheduled to open in January 2015. The embassy is presently located in a building near Rome's Circus Maximus, roughly 3 miles away from the other American diplomatic facilities in the city.

    Although the Vatican traditionally has insisted that countries maintain embassies in distinct locations as a way of underscoring its autonomy, signals in this case suggest it won't protest the relocation.

    On background, a senior Vatican official told NCR on Monday that safety is a "real concern," especially in the wake of a lethal September 2012* assault on a U.S. diplomatic compound in Benghazi, Libya, that claimed the lives of an American ambassador and three other officials. A U.S. State Department report after that assault recommended consolidating facilities wherever possible.

    As long as the embassy remains "completely separate" from other U.S. missions, the Vatican official said, the new site represents a tolerable exception to normal practice.

    The current and former Vatican ambassadors of the Obama administration as well as a senior official of the U.S. State Department all told NCR the move is primarily about security. They also say the move will bring cost savings and improved facilities and will not be accompanied by cuts in personnel or resources.

    "I see no diminishing in the importance of the relationship at all," said current U.S. Ambassador Ken Hackett.

    In truth, Hackett said, "the relationship between the Vatican and the U.S. government hasn't been better than it is right now in quite a while," especially under Pope Francis.

    That view was echoed by the State Department official.

    "Having the embassy close to the other missions gives it greater stature," the official said, who was authorized to speak to NCR on background. "It makes it central to everything the U.S. is doing in Italy and the region rather than being out of sight and out of mind."

    Especially given the global interest in Francis, the official said, "If anything, we anticipate intensifying our relationship."

    Hackett and others note that a few other countries, such as Israel, have always had their embassies in Rome at the same location while others, such as the United Kingdom and the Netherlands, have recently combined them.

    Those assurances, however, haven't mollified the critics. Nicholson rejected the security argument, calling it a "smokescreen."

    "That's like saying people get killed on highways because they drive cars on them," he said. "We're not a pauper nation ... if we want to secure an embassy, we certainly can." He said protection at the current location is "state of the art."

    Flynn described the move as part of broader secular hostility to religious groups, the Catholic church in particular.

    "It's not just those who bomb churches and kill Catholics in the Middle East who are our antagonists, but it's also those who restrict our religious freedoms and want to close down our embassy to the Holy See," Flynn told NCR.

    Flynn said he can't see any "diplomatic or political benefit to the United States" from the relocation and called it "shortsighted."

    Melady told NCR that no matter how the move is justified, it will be perceived in diplomatic circles as scaling back.

    "Whether that's the official reason doesn't really matter, because that's how people will see it," Melady said.

    Hackett called those perceptions off-base. Among other points, he said, the new facilities include better office space and the ability to host small conferences involving 30 to 40 participants.

    All told, Hackett said, the new site will give visitors the impression that the United States is "serious" about engaging the Vatican.

    The idea of moving the embassy has been around for at least a decade. Under former Ambassador to Italy Mel Sembler, who represented President George W. Bush from 2001 to 2005, the U.S. acquired a large building and other property adjacent to the embassy to Italy, located on Rome's upscale Via Veneto.

    The third U.S. embassy in Rome, a mission to the Food and Agriculture Organization and other U.N. agencies, moved into that compound in early 2012.

    Both Nicholson and Rooney said moving the Vatican embassy to the same location was floated during their tenures, and both resisted it on the grounds that the delegation to the Vatican needs its own identity, including a separate physical location.

    After the Benghazi attack, momentum for moving the embassy gathered steam. Those conversations took place toward the end of the term of former Ambassador Miguel Diaz, who represented Obama from 2009 to 2012.

    "There are really serious issues in terms of protecting U.S. diplomatic personnel," Diaz said. He said the move is "absolutely not a downgrade."

    Diaz said it will promote collaboration among the three American embassies in Rome, creating "more possibilities to do what we want to do."

    Hackett said the Vatican embassy no longer will have to pay the annual lease on its present location, which he estimated at between $600,000 and $1 million. Officials say once it's operational, the new facility will have separate signage and a separate entrance on Rome's Via Salustina, marking it as a distinct diplomatic operation.

    Glendon disputed the notion that the United States ought to cite what other countries have done as precedent, saying the importance of the relationship merits its own location and profile.

    "Both [the U.S. and the Vatican] are global actors," she said. "The Holy See's sphere of concern, like that of the United States, is worldwide."

    Diaz suggested that since much of the blowback is coming from representatives of Republican presidents, it may have a partisan edge.

    "We need to look at the evidence and the facts rather than politicizing this move," Diaz said.

    Nicholson disputed that charge, noting that his initial objections were lodged under the Bush administration while a fellow Republican was the ambassador to Italy.

    "There's no partisan motivation on my part," Nicholson said. "I've served there, I know the importance of this post, and I know the damage that will be done."

    Although the State Department official described the decision as a fait accompli, Nicholson said he still hopes it can be reversed.

    "They like to use the term 'reset' in talking about diplomacy, and I think this is something that can be 'reset,' " he said, saying he's had conversations with political leaders "on both sides of the aisle" in an effort to roll it back.

    The U.S. Embassy to the Holy See also maintains an official residence for the ambassador, a picturesque 19th-century building known as the Villa Richardson rented from the American Academy on Rome's Janiculum Hill, which is often used for receptions and other events. Officials say there's no plan to change that residence.

    Former Ambassador Frank Shakespeare, the only other living former U.S. envoy to the Vatican, did not respond to a request for comment on this article.
    http://ncronline.org/news/vatican/va...rmer-us-envoys
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    Satan Is Good, God Is Bad: Our Shifting Moral Compass and Why Atheists Are Throwing the Devil Under the Bus




    Quote I went to Skepticon 5 expecting a group of heretics that would get a kick out of my inversed reading of Milton’s Paradise Lost, which claims that Satan is the hero of the story (which was actually the mainstream reading before it became the “mistaken reading”, and is now coming into vogue again by top Milton scholars).

    I was surprised to find that Satan makes atheists uncomfortable. Atheists already have a huge image/perception problem, with the religious proclamations that people can’t be good without God and that therefore all atheists are “evil.” Christians already think of atheists as nearly synonymous with Satanists; hence atheists have an uncomfortable relationship with Satanists and don’t want to be associated with the Devil.

    Even more so than the term “Atheist”, “Satanist” has an immediately powerful negative connotations. And on the one hand, I definitely think that those people who wish to create a secular political and social force big enough to stand up to religious groups that are trying to make their faith-based beliefs govern the private lives of the rest of us, need to think about how they are perceived because it does impact the message being shared.

    But there is still a very good reason to rescue Satan from his eternal cell of automatic-guilt; punished for a crime he was created to commit, as essential to the Christian plan of salvation as Jesus himself, and stereotyped into a boogey-man of evil and terror in order to frighten people into the arms of God.

    Why should we give Satan a second chance, a new trial?

    Why should we listen to his voice at all?

    Because the term Satan is a wall, a barrier, a defense.

    Religious people used to use the words “God” or “Holy” or “Divine” to sanctify their beliefs and values, and those terms were unquestionable. Why? can be answered by “Because God said so.” Humanists, atheists and skeptics have trampled this apparent barrier, forging through the taboo protecting sacred topics from inquiry and doubt, and demanding answers through rational discourse. As a result, Christians and the religious have lost one of their most precious defenses – the appeal to the tautology that God and Holy and Divine are automatically synonymous with the term Good – and inviolable, because “Good” is a universally positive statement that no one can disagree with or question.

    But the flip side of this same theme is that of Evil, represented by Satan. Christians will call atheists “Satanists”, and atheists have to struggle to prove that they are not evil, they are not Satanists, that in fact they have positive moral values. But strangely, the literary figure of Satan has always represented some of the same values that humanists and atheists champion – like freedom, equality, the right to choice, to representative politics, the right to bear arms and rebel.

    Trying to distance itself from Satan, who is actually an ally and forerunner to the movement, a powerful influence on the development of the very values humanists proclaim, is a failed project and appears disingenuous. Atheists are already quick to judge God and remove his protective labels of “Good” by identifying and criticizing the depravity of his actions recorded in the Bible and other literature – why shouldn’t they take the obvious and natural next step of taking a deep and penetrating look at the devil and questioning the common social assumptions concerning his actions? Shouldn’t the religious identification of Satan with evil values automatically lead atheists to question its validity and predict that Satan – as the polar opposite of the God they deny – represents the values that they hold dear?

    Instead, atheists and Christians alike continue to condemn Satan as evil and allow the traditional stereotype that he is a liar, untrustworthy, sinful, etc. to stand. But if our society agrees universally that Satan represents negative values, isn’t it all-too-easy for everyone to continue making the counter association between God and Good values? Somehow Satan, God’s nemesis and opposite, has been completely cut off from the moral discussion concerning belief in God, and while God’s virtuousness and existence is being challenged, Satan’s deviousness is not.

    The Paradise Lost Connection

    If you grew up in a Western country, you are probably a Satanist. If you find this offensive, it’s because you’ve been taught that “Satan” is evil incarnate, and “Satanic” is a synonym for “bad”. However the Western values that are so cherished today, including equality, personal autonomy, the right to “life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness” are all values that were deemed as categorically Satanic by religious authorities when they first emerged.

    They were promoted and defended by liberal, usually anti-religious, freethought thinkers and criticized, condemned and punished by Church authorities. Nevertheless, thanks to the artists, philosophers, poets and writers who turned away from religion and embraced a humanistic value system that celebrated life, experience and the pursuit and conquest of our desires, who saw in the courageous pursuit of personal growth and fulfillment of desires the true meaning and value of life, these values triumphed and became integral to contemporary society.

    Nowhere is this link made more clear than in the reaction to Milton’s Satan in Prometheus Lost, which inspired a direct chain of influence – a chain I hope to reclaim in the book I’m working on, Satan is my Hero.

    For the past several decades, literary theory has focused almost exclusively on championing minority voices and challenging “majority narratives”. Universal meaning has broken down into fragmented, traumatized, unrepresented narratives – the subaltern, the colonized, the victims. The battle cry of contemporary literally theorists, based on Foucault, Derrida, Badiou, and Zizek, is to challenge authority, to resist definitions, to be fluid, to cross boundaries, to “Deterritorialize”.

    In the humanities, very few topics are off grounds. Due to the explosion of popular media featuring traditional “evil” characters like witches and vampires as protagonists (Twilight, Harry Potter, etc.), there have been hundreds of conferences and literary papers discussing this new breed of heroism.

    So I was a little taken aback when, in my first graduate class on Milton’s Paradise Lost I suggested the Satan had all the qualities of an epic hero, I was denounced. Apparently, not only is that flatly untrue, but it is exactly the mistake that Milton purposely and cleverly lured me into – by presenting Satan with heroic qualities, the unsuspecting reader will let their guard down and be convinced by Satan’s rhetoric, proving just how crafty the devil really is, and why we need to be on our guard against him.

    It was obviously very complicated, the professor told me, and as I was just a graduate student I couldn’t get it, but take his word for it, the most reputable scholars in Milton study all agreed that Satan was the bad guy, that we needed to be careful – that viewing him as the hero was a rookie mistake. I had been fooled, by Satan, he told me; but that was exactly Milton’s intention: to show me how tricky Satan can be. I pointed out that Milton himself was a revolutionary, that he tried at one point to overthrow the king, that he believed in rule by merit and was against rule-by birth on principle – and that Satan’s speeches in Paradise Lost exactly mimic Milton’s own political views.

    Doing my own research, I found that Milton’s Satan was viewed as a hero by the Romantics, then the Modernists. The revolutionary, anti-religious spirit sparked by Milton’s Satan had massive importance to the development of contemporary human rights, the political revolutions of Europe and America, and the philosophical and political thinking of America’s founding fathers and the Rationalist/Enlightenment thinkers that preceded them.

    Milton’s Satan was perhaps the single greatest influence on contemporary cultural values. With all this in mind I decided to write my PhD Thesis on Satan as the Hero of Paradise Lost, and explore his social value and import. After writing my first paper, the professor in my first year told me “don’t take the easy way out.” Viewing Satan as a hero is simplistic. It’s old fashioned – the Romantics can’t have been right, they were mistaken. Literary theory has progressed since then.

    I wondered why it was so difficult to view Satan as the Hero. This prejudice against Satan has also clearly steered literary reaction to other great texts of the western literary tradition. Captain Ahab, for example, is scorned as the crazy, monomaniacal fool who persisted in his “ludicrous” goal, and this pride and determination led directly to his death. The traditional reading of Moby Dick has been that “God” or the Forces of Nature lie outside of mankind’s control, and we have to learn to be humble and learn to accept things that are beyond our understanding and control.

    But isn’t this a religious interpretation? What crime was it for Ahab to pursue a whale? He was Captain of a whaling ship, after all. Should he have instead listened to the superstitions of his crew and avoided certain whales that were bad luck? Should he have avoided the defining battle and challenge of his life, to chase weak and easy whales for a quick profit?

    Likewise, in the proto-science fiction of the various Faust-figures (including Manfred, Dr. Frankenstein, and more recently hundreds of movies warning of the dangers of AI, invention, and scientific exploration) – pulling back the curtain into the nature of the universe in order to gain more power and control is always portrayed as evil, and meant as a lesson against unmitigated scientific progress.

    I found a persistent and wide divide between my western values, self-belief, confidence, self-determination, courage, bravery and pioneering spirit; a sense of rebellion in the face of tyranny and authority (cultivated in particular by nearly every Hollywood movie I’d ever seen); the right to resist slavery by force, the right to change your mind, the right to start over, to quit your job, to make mistakes; the right to be your own person – between all of this and the traditionalist, conservative readings I was being taught in regards to Paradise Lost.

    Satan is a temptation, I was told; according to Stanley Fish, Milton is using reader harassment to trick readers into feeling sympathy for Satan to prove that Satan can’t be trusted and to show how powerful his rhetoric can be. No matter what Satan says, no matter how rational, backed by evidence, and apparently true it is – even if his arguments convince and persuade us, we must close our ears entirely and refuse to believe him; and instead to place faith in God, even if he appears on the surface as a mean and foul tyrant. We must distrust our own reading of the text and place faith in scholars that tell us what is really happening beneath the surface. This has been the mainstream way to read Milton for the past 50 years. It is an ugly, silly, and scholarly weak position; and yet it is the same ideology under which Satan is unanimously presented in TV, Movies and Contemporary Literature.

    It was with much joy that I realized that I was not alone in questioning this academic stagnation: recent scholarship is again accepting the classical interpretation that Satan really is the hero of Paradise Lost. Hence, CS Lewis’ introduction to Paradise Lost warning readers against the crafty Satan has been replaced by one written by Philip Pullman, whose “Dark Materials” series is deliberately structured as an “Anti Paradise Lost”. Neil Forsyth turned the tables with his book The Satanic Epic.

    But even though the scholarly tide is turning, and research into Satan as a Hero is once again tolerated, the public disavowal and refusal to listen to the voice of Satan is so fierce that even atheists have been forced to distance themselves from him.

    Hence, the purpose of my book is to give Satan a fair trial – to ask what laws he violated, and with what reasons he did so, and more generally to ask when transgressing such laws is morally justifiable; to review the evidence against him, and hear his own defense; if guilty, to see if the punishment is commensurate with the crime, and if innocent, to liberate him.
    Quote Derek Murphy is a writer and artist from Oregon, currently working on his PhD thesis on revolutionary literature while traveling the globe. He writes about comparative religion, popular culture and literary theory.
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    Thanks Dianna ...

    interesting read and synchronicity ...

    Note ~ i heard this today and will share this here now in paraphrase ...

    A true and moral compass towards one's own believing in any religious system ... Can be gauged by a litmus test whereas... If a religious institution (group) is no longer following (beholding to) the original writings (teachings) ... But is now practicing (serving) something else all together ... That's a clear sign something is amok ...

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    the latest ...

    Alfred Lambremont Webre and Kevin Annett:
    Pope Bergoglio flaunts UN on child trafficking as 30 BC child skeletons discovered ?


    related article link here

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    will share this here ...

    CrossTalk: Francis Effect ?

    "Does Pope Francis deserve the title 'Person of the Year' as TIME magazine called him ...
    Will he actually bring change to the Catholic Church... Or is he just a product of good PR" ?

    Published on Dec 13, 2013


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    i have to admit Francis knows how to stroke the masses ...

    Pope highlights 'drama' of migrants, refugees

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    Vatican uses its media to promote more PR?

    The Best Dressed Man of 2013: Pope Francis
    http://www.esquire.com/blogs/mens-fa...?src=soc_fcbks

    "I Knew Pope Francis Was Good, But When I Found Out Everything He Did in 2013, I Was Blown Away"
    http://distractify.com/people/reason...n-of-the-year/

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    I just heard about this:

    Quote Pope Francis announces plans to visit Middle East in May
    By REUTERS
    01/05/2014 13:32

    Following much speculation, Pontiff says will make trip to Israel, Jordan, Palestinian territories May 24-26; trip will be fourth-ever papal visit to Israel, first since 2009.

    VATICAN CITY - Pope Francis announced on Sunday that he will visit Holy Land sites in Jordan, Israel and the Palestinian territories in May, his first trip to the area as pontiff.

    Francis, who has made many appeals for peace in the Middle East since his election in March, announced the trip to thousands of people in St. Peter's Square for his Sunday address.

    He was invited by both President Shimon Peres and Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas.

    The May 24-26 trip to Amman, Bethlehem and Jerusalem will mark the 50th anniversary of a landmark trip there by Pope Paul VI in 1964, the first by a pope in modern times. Pope John Paul II visited in 2000 and Benedict XVI went in 2009
    http://www.jpost.com/Diplomacy-and-P...-in-May-337123

    Other articles:

    Quote Report: Pope Francis to make maiden visit to Israel in May
    By JPOST.COM STAFF
    11/28/2013 15:07

    CNN cites Israeli official as saying leader of Catholic Church will come to Holy Land on May 25-26.
    http://www.jpost.com/Diplomacy-and-P...-in-May-333393

    Quote Vatican advance team to arrive to plan Pope's visit
    By HERB KEINON, ERIC J. LYMAN IN ROME
    11/28/2013 21:48
    http://www.jpost.com/Diplomacy-and-P...s-visit-333429
    "Vision without action is merely a dream.
    Action without vision just passes the time.
    Vision with action can change the world." Joel Arthur Barker

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    Via the Schwartz Report ...

    "Francis is the most interesting religious figure in the Roman Catholic Church since John XXIII. He has a compassionate theological vision in accord with Jesus' teachings and is candid enough to recognize the dysfunctionality of his hierarchy.

    Almost every week we get a new statement. On a tiny scale it reminds me of watching the shell of a crab break and disintegrate so a new bigger crab could step out" ...

    Stephan A. Schwartz


    Pope Francis: Priests can become 'little monsters' ...

    VATICAN CITY (AP) - Pope Francis has warned that priests can become "little monsters" if they aren't trained properly as seminarians, saying their time studying must be used to mold their hearts as well as their minds.

    Francis also warned against accepting men for the priesthood who may have been implicated in sexual abuse or other problems, saying the protection of the Catholic faithful is most important... Read more

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    Question Re: At the Vatican, Up Against the World

    will share this here for your inspection ...

    Pope Francis and the Jesuit Order ?

    "An insight into the Vatican's counter-reformation military order Society of Jesus and the NWO" ...


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    From ~ Alfred Lambremont Webre

    "VANCOUVER, BC – Kevin Annett, field secretary of the International Tribunal into Crimes of Church and State (ITCCS.ORG) revealed that a former Argentine government official is scheduled to testify against Pope Bergoglio (Francis I) as to his role in child trafficking during the Junta government and the dirty war in Argentina. The Argentine official’s testimony is scheduled to occur in common law court of justice proceedings against Pope Bergoglio slated to begin in Brussels early in 2014.

    In his interview with Alfred Lambremont Webre on ExopoliticsTV, Kevin Annett also discussed plans by a United Nations NGO to move for stripping the Vatican of its observor status at the UN on the grounds that it is a criminal organization. The Vatican is currently answering queries at the UN on child trafficking and child abuse.

    Kevin Annett also discussed the U.K.’s use of unlawful psychiatric incarceration against a ITCCS member of a common law court in Coventry, UK. Attempted psychiatric incarceration or psychiatric commitment has occurred against other NGOs such as EUCACH.ORG’s Melanie Vritschan in Brussels. Kevin Annett commented on the possible use of attempted psychiatric commitment by the King’s prosecutor in Brussels as a means of attempting to stop the common law court of justice proceedings against Pope Bergoglio for child trafficking."


    http://exopolitics.blogs.com/breakin...argentina.html

    Published on Jan 15, 2014


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    Benedict XVI defrocked nearly 400 priests in two years ...

    Close to 400 priests were defrocked in only two years by the former Pope Benedict XVI
    over claims of child abuse, the Vatican has confirmed.... More here

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    a modern day equivalent ...



    The New Malleus Maleficarum: The DSM Reconsidered

    In 1486, the dominant ecclesiastical authority published The Malleus Maleficarum (translated: The Witch Hammer). Written by two Dominican Priests, this infamous text claimed to be an authoritative guidebook that could be used to identify practitioners of witchcraft. However, the book had more to do with snuffing out the Church’s competition than it did with recognizing witches. At the time, herbal healers had more success curing people with alternative methods than did the priests with highly stylized rituals. Under the pretext of delivering the world from evil, innovation and eccentricity were criminalized. The Malleus Maleficarum played no small role in the process... Read more

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