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    Default Re: Charlottesville - Fake White Supremacists & NGO Money Hard at Work

    It's kind of like the difference between a Muslim jihadi who flies a plane into a building by himself, and a Muslim jihadi who has "deep state" help to make sure everything happens to create a pre-set narrative and further an evil agenda.

    Or maybe you're one of those who still believes the official story on 9/11 and I need another example? There are plenty of other examples of this kind of stuff to choose from.

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    Quote Posted by Fellow Aspirant (here)
    Quote Posted by Helene West (here)
    At least someone is publicly calling this for the staged project that it is. Link to Lionel Nation - #Charlottesville: Mob Psychology, Soros Production Choreographed Chaos, Police Stand Downs and LIHOP

    https://youtu.be/dM_0x9nplb0
    So, I wonder if you can explain for me the difference between a real neo-nazi that mows down innocent people and a fake neo-nazi that mows down innocent people.

    B.
    Do you know what paid provocateurs are?
    Do you know what NGO money is used for? a la George Soros?
    Do you know what false flags are?
    Do you know what crisis actors are?
    Have you ever heard of Cointelpro?
    Are you aware that our spook agencies have helped in the overthrow of foreign governments let alone infiltrate domestic political organizations or start their own front organizations to disparage a particular person, idea or group?

    If you want to believe in the bad white racist narrative, go ahead, no one is stopping you.

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    Quote Posted by Helene West (here)
    Quote Posted by Fellow Aspirant (here)
    Quote Posted by Helene West (here)
    At least someone is publicly calling this for the staged project that it is. Link to Lionel Nation - #Charlottesville: Mob Psychology, Soros Production Choreographed Chaos, Police Stand Downs and LIHOP

    https://youtu.be/dM_0x9nplb0
    So, I wonder if you can explain for me the difference between a real neo-nazi that mows down innocent people and a fake neo-nazi that mows down innocent people.

    B.
    Do you know what paid provocateurs are?
    Do you know what NGO money is used for? a la George Soros?
    Do you know what false flags are?
    Do you know what crisis actors are?
    Have you ever heard of Cointelpro?
    Are you aware that our spook agencies have helped in the overthrow of foreign governments let alone infiltrate domestic political organizations or start their own front organizations to disparage a particular person, idea or group?

    If you want to believe in the bad white racist narrative, go ahead, no one is stopping you.
    Very proper attitude, don't invalidate anyone's opinion.

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    Lionel points out the over reaction to legal 'thought'. " This was a orchestrated
    event staged by goons ". When the law is broken it becomes a crime not before.
    He is trying to get over the point the demonstration was exploited to under
    mind Trump by any means by the left , deep state via mainstream media ,
    he sums it up well at the end after a semi heated discussion....



    Published on 14 Aug 2017
    John Hajjar, deputy director of the U.S.-Middle East Alliance to Support Donald
    Trump, Medea Benjamin - Co-Founder of Code Pink & legal and media analyst -
    Lionel debate the issue.ivision deepens: Who's to blame for the incident at
    Charlottesville?

    ====================================================

    This is all orchestrated and has been going on for years before Trump.....

    Bombshell Connection Between Charlottesville, Soros, CIA



    Published on 15 Aug 2017

    As evidenced this weekend, a civil war is brewing in this country, laying the
    foundation for a violent coup to take out Trump. Soros-funded NGO's have been
    able to achieve regime change in other countries by quite literally teaming up with
    Neo-nazis and "moderate" terrorists. Now, investigative reporter Lee Stranahan
    reveals the same players involved in the Ukraine overthrow are working behind the
    scenes to oust President Trump.

    ===================================================

    The 'fake' Russia hack is part of this to explain Hillaries defeat and get the agenda
    back on track....

    Ex-NSA official: Spies don't believe Russia collusion story

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vA0HK_I-Hps

    Published on 14 Aug 2017
    Former official tells Tucker why some intel specialists - like the Veteran Intelligence
    Professionals for Sanity (VIPS) - don't find theories of Russian collusion in the 2016
    presidential election believable #Tucker

    ===================================================

    Mike Cernovich Breaks Down Deep State Race War Attack Against Trump

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tguFKlHeYdE
    Published on 14 Aug 2017
    The President needs to bring the MSM out of the dark where they feel at home, and
    force them to fight in the light of day.
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    Default Re: Charlottesville - Fake White Supremacists & NGO Money Hard at Work

    [QUOTE=Fellow Aspirant;1173287]
    Quote Posted by Helene West (here)
    At least someone is publicly calling this for the staged project that it is. Link to Lionel Nation - #Charlottesville: Mob Psychology, Soros Production Choreographed Chaos, Police Stand Downs and LIHOP

    So, I wonder if you can explain for me the difference between a real neo-nazi that mows down innocent people and a fake neo-nazi that mows down innocent people.B.
    That's pretty easy. A real neo-nazi is just that - a neo nazi while a fake neo-nazi is someone masquerading as one.
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    Default Re: Charlottesville - Fake White Supremacists & NGO Money Hard at Work

    I want to draw a parallel from the UK.

    In Northern Ireland we have the Orange order- these are the Hard Core Protestants who detest Catholicism & the desire to return to a unified Ireland. They have a valid political position, and a majority, for now, however many of their views are outlandish and bizarre to the average Briton, including conservatives, such as:
    - Stopping their children fraternising/marrying outside their faith
    - Anti homosexuality
    - Anti Catholic
    - Anti Ireland.

    These guys do an annual march, traditionally through Catholic areas, which can spark trouble & tension.
    There are some equivalencies between this situation and the fracture points in Charlottesville.

    Here are the differences:

    1. The idea of trying to associate the views of the mainstream right/conservatives in the UK as being similar , say, towards Catholics or Irish would be seen as ridiculous
    2. The political mainstream in UK acknowledge that there are issues, and frictions, with legitimacy on both sides (as well as fringe nutters on both sides)
    3. The marches are carefully policed to avoid trouble, as it could spark bigger trouble. They have been stopped from going through Catholic areas.
    4. The media in UK generally does not use republican violence to try to portray legitimate voters wishing to be Irish as dangerous terrorists.

    Those four points illustrate a more practical approach to a societal divide. We probably got there after a century because we tried all kinds of silliness first, however I question the idea that USA society cannot manage issues like Charlottesville in a more enlightened way.

    IT IS NOT being done sensibly, and that looks deliberate to me- as if the system is trying to ramp up trouble rather than damping it down!

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    Default Re: Charlottesville - Fake White Supremacists & NGO Money Hard at Work

    The first solution is to recognize the enormity of the problem : The NWO pulls the strings on ALL sides of EVERY issue.
    I would suggest ,stay home. Don't support them by attending these paid phony protests . Alone they have no strength.
    Again, recognize the enormity is IMO step one

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    Quote Posted by A Voice from the Mountains (here)
    It's kind of like the difference between a Muslim jihadi who flies a plane into a building by himself, and a Muslim jihadi who has "deep state" help to make sure everything happens to create a pre-set narrative and further an evil agenda.

    Or maybe you're one of those who still believes the official story on 9/11 and I need another example? There are plenty of other examples of this kind of stuff to choose from.
    Is this addressed to me? I'll give you my best answer: Of course I believe the official story of 911, and soon everyone will know that the pilot of the first plane was an old dude by the name of George Soros. Ever heard of him?

    But my original question stands: how can you tell the difference? It doesn't really matter, does it? A neo-nazi murderer is killer by any name you choose to use.

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    Quote Posted by Fellow Aspirant (here)
    Quote Posted by Helene West (here)
    At least someone is publicly calling this for the staged project that it is. Link to Lionel Nation - #Charlottesville: Mob Psychology, Soros Production Choreographed Chaos, Police Stand Downs and LIHOP

    https://youtu.be/dM_0x9nplb0
    So, I wonder if you can explain for me the difference between a real neo-nazi that mows down innocent people and a fake neo-nazi that mows down innocent people.

    B.

    Easy: Motivation & conviction(s).



    Quote Posted by Fellow Aspirant (here)
    But my original question stands: how can you tell the difference? It doesn't really matter, does it? A neo-nazi murderer is killer by any name you choose to use.

    B.

    Labels (I think we agree on this?) in this type of situation are nearly meaningless and mostly used as mental shortcuts (and as a divide and conquer technique).... The game is afoot!
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    I realize that many events are staged, but if you believe everything you read on here then everything is staged.

    Bombings, protests, as soon as and event happens someone posts on here that it is a false flag. It feels like there are too many children crying wolf to me.

    I agree that many events are staged, but would argue that mainly what happens is that the powers that be use events to their advantage.

    No one on here seems concerned that people that are part of white supermacist parties were marching and speaking publicly? Everything gets glossed over because its a false flag?!

    People arguing that the event was orchestrated to make Trump look bad? He took three days to say he doesn't stand with the white supermacists! who were invoking his name during the march! Although asked point blank numerous times to distance himself from people like former kkk leader David Duke, Trump said nothing. The media didn't need to do anything in this instance, he did it for him.

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    Charlottesville: Race and Terror – VICE News Tonight on HBO


    Published on Aug 14, 2017

    On Saturday hundreds of white nationalists, alt-righters, and neo-Nazis traveled to Charlottesville, Virginia to participate in the “Unite the Right” rally. By Saturday evening three people were dead – one protester, and two police officers – and many more injured.

    “VICE News Tonight” correspondent Elle Reeve went behind the scenes with white nationalist leaders, including Christopher Cantwell, Robert Ray, David Duke, and Matthew Heimbach — as well as counter-protesters. VICE News Tonight also spoke with residents of Charlottesville, members of the Black Lives Matter movement, and the Charlottesville Police.

    From the neo-Nazi protests at Emancipation Park to Cantwell’s hideaway outside of Virginia, “VICE News Tonight” provides viewers with exclusive, up close and personal access inside the unrest.

    This episode of VICE News Tonight aired August 14, 2017 on HBO.

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    the guy has a Japanese character tattooed on his arm...


    Yep, seems like a super white supremacist racist and nothing strange at all there!

    Nothing to see here but what your being told by the truth loving media, which always report things exactly as they are!


    Color me skeptical.
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    That's the way I see it too, TargeT.

    Very well-made video, don't you think?


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    That's the way I see it too, TargeT.

    Very well-made video, don't you think?

    Brought to you by HBO... I'd expect nothing less.
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    Quote Posted by Fellow Aspirant (here)
    Quote Posted by Helene West (here)
    At least someone is publicly calling this for the staged project that it is. Link to Lionel Nation - #Charlottesville: Mob Psychology, Soros Production Choreographed Chaos, Police Stand Downs and LIHOP

    So, I wonder if you can explain for me the difference between a real neo-nazi that mows down innocent people and a fake neo-nazi that mows down innocent people.B.
    That's pretty easy. A real neo-nazi is just that - a neo nazi while a fake neo-nazi is someone masquerading as one.
    Rather a moot point, no? Both versions are performing evil.

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    Quote Posted by Fellow Aspirant (here)
    Quote Posted by A Voice from the Mountains (here)
    It's kind of like the difference between a Muslim jihadi who flies a plane into a building by himself, and a Muslim jihadi who has "deep state" help to make sure everything happens to create a pre-set narrative and further an evil agenda.

    Or maybe you're one of those who still believes the official story on 9/11 and I need another example? There are plenty of other examples of this kind of stuff to choose from.
    Is this addressed to me? I'll give you my best answer: Of course I believe the official story of 911, and soon everyone will know that the pilot of the first plane was an old dude by the name of George Soros. Ever heard of him?
    I take it that you are not being serious here.

    If you're not going to be serious I'm not going to waste my time trying to be reasonable either.

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    That's pretty easy. A real neo-nazi is just that - a neo nazi while a fake neo-nazi is someone masquerading as one.
    Or how about the guy that organized the event, Jason Kessler?

    First learned he was an Obama supporter and part of the Occupy movement. Now we learn that he was also associated with Black Lives Matter.

    Then when Trump was elected he suddenly became a "white nationalist," started meeting with Democratic operatives in private and organized this "Unite the Right" rally.

    We should all be familiar enough with the game by this point that even children can connect these dots and read the proverbial tea leaves.

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    in the following, connections between the 'Unite the Right' psi op and leftist agitators are made.

    Police stand down instructions are detailed.

    I think 'unite the right' is totally fake- as it assists to create the delusion that the Trump movement is mainly or partly about white supremacism, whereas , at it's best it is about ceasing confrontation with Russia, returning democratic accountability to national checks & balances, uncovering the paedophile networks etc.

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    Something just occurred to me and I apologize if someone mentioned this above and I hadn't caught it - The Timing.

    The Timing of Project Fake White Supremacist. Wasn't it just like 2 weeks or so ago that trump had a huge turnout of support in West VA? Weren't some writers like mainstream Krauthammer saying things like Trump could have his own private army, etc? The people were in good spirits, getting some validation from a political leader who doesn't lecture them like they're negligible rednecks or 'the bad white people' or but as fellow americans.

    Someone on the top floor decided that was not to be allowed, it's threatening having these constituents feel energized and validated. What's an Intel agency to do???

    SHAME THEM!! Bring out the vile white supremacists waving nazi flags of course....
    the timing was perfect. Like so much down in the rabbit hole which is our government - things are exactly the opposite of what they seem. The event allegedly featured hurtful whites but the event is actually meant to hurt, demoralize conservative whites, take away any afterglow of the show of strength. Vicious...

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    They're not all fake, there were two people identified that everyone blew up on Facebook because everyone knew they were from Ohio and they went to school with them, so they called the two guys out so these are real people attending these rallies and not all of them are paid. Who ever organized this event is the one who is exploiting people's racism getting people to attend these events, who ever created this white nationalist protest are the ones who are probably paid off, but the ones attending are simply merely puppets playing into there own hands.

    http://http://www.snopes.com/2017/08...p-state-plant/
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    Quote Posted by CurEus (here)
    We are well aware that a "House divided against itself cannot stand"

    It serves the interests of the controllers moreso than anyone attending these rallies for any ideology. On forums dedicated to deconstructing videos and scenarios such as these there are a good number of people very hard at work piecing together things. Several eye witnesses have indicated the driver got out of the car and was replaced with someone else who was then arrested. The Facebook and other social media accounts have been deleted which points to framing someone specific for this.

    After 911, Wako, Charlie Hebdo, Boston, London, Ottawa, etc etc etc I remain "Aware" of these things but not actively involved in watching or commenting them on my personal accounts until months later. Planned incidents are designed to produce strong reactions. Fear and division.

    I did expect clashes like this to be a larger part of the summer in the USA and Europe.
    By my estimation they are well behind schedule.
    CurEus, I so agree. Just like the Lord says in the Bible, "The enemy comes into the house to divide." As long as we, as Americans, and other Westernized nations, stick to our Constitution and stand upon moral ground, we will pull through. Our ideals must not be torn down, nor our histories which have gotten us where we are today, we need to uphold our integrity and steadfastness so as to pass it on from generation to generation. Having immigration bring in more chaos is also diluting the purpose of our public schools which is to carry on understanding and appreciation of our nations Constitution, Bill of Rights, and moral principles to one another. Loving and appreciating also means defending what you love, and know is worth keeping, and improving, not overthrowing and trampling as if it were all waste.......which is what tearers down of American historic figure statues is....unappreciative of the understanding of our history.....where we have been.... For example, we don't discard Hitler from history books due to him being a horrid and evil figure in world history. We definitely include him so that we all can learn about, then inwardly respond with grief and horror, so that we can put deep within our souls the reasons why we don't want atrocities of that nature happening again.

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