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    My visit to the Hal Saflieni Hypogeum and other ancient sites around Malta and Gozo

    He everyone, I returned from visited Malta last week after a three weeks stay in Malta and the small Island of Gozo. It has been a mission of mine to return to Malta since I was last there 26 yrs ago to revisit the ancient standing stones sites and mainly the Hypogeum which I was not aware of 26 yrs ago.

    My whole trip was planned around when I could have access to the 5000 year old Hypogeum, I had to book my visit a year in advance as their calendar was fully booked months in advance. I pre booked two visits to the Hypogeum. Which now I was very glad I did as I ended up having a memorial experience on my second visit which I will share with you all.

    The Hypogeum is a man made underground structure on three levels. Hypogeum is a Greek word for underground. But more accurate is Hypo = under and Geum = Gaia (mother or goddess) and is usually associated with a chamber. A chamber under mother earth is exactly what it is.

    The Hypogeum has been built with amazing acustics qualities within the plan. A lost knowledge from the ancient builders as far as I am concerned. As some of you already know I have travelled around the world seeking out ancient structures and temples with acustic properties. India being my last trip which I shared with you all on my Ajanta / Ellora thread. I have also visited sound structures in Greece, Turkey and of course Scotland. But the Hypogeum takes the cake as far as quality of resonance is concerned.
    Literally, out of this world.

    When I was still in Scotland months before my trip I wrote to Heritage Malta to ask for permission to allow me to test the acustics for a few seconds with my toning skills, which are not that great but I get by. They replied quickly with a definite NO not allowed. I appealed against their decision as I knew through all my previous research that they had allowed some privileged folks Access to test the sound. They replied saying that if I hired a whole group tour for myself then I could test the acustics. There are 10 visitors in each tour group at €38 each = €380. I could not afford this so I just let it go disappointed that I would not be allowed to tone inside the Hypogeum. But things took an unexpected turn for the better when I actually arrived there.

    The security is very high at the Hypogeum. No cameras, phones or tablets are allowed inside, when you arrive for your tour you have to place everything inside a locker which they give you a key for. It is an audio tour. So you are given small audio device with no earphones. They select your language and you are led through the Hypogeum on a built metal walkway that you are not allowed to stray from.

    As no cameras were allowed I have no personal photos to share but there are plenty on the net from earlier times when security was not so strict.

    These are pictures from some postcards I bought.
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    There is one room they call the oracle room. Which has a small square cut out of the stone and this is the sound chamber that resonates throughout all three levels when you tone into it. You have to first find the note or key of the structure and when you do, you know it, as your whole chest and body vibrates with the sound. Quite an experience I assure you.

    My picture limit has been reached on this OP post, so I will continue on the history of the Hypogeum with another post soon.
    Last edited by Billy; 24th September 2018 at 12:45.
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    Default Re: My visit to the ancient Hypogeum in Malta

    There are quite a few mysteries connected to the Hypogeum. A teacher and his group of children disappeared in the tunnels without trace in the 1940's. Although their cries could be heard for days after their disappearance, they were never found. The tunnels under Malta are endless, some say you could walk from one end of Malta to the other underground. Some say you could also walk all the way under the Mediterranean to Italy through underground tunnels.

    There were estimated 7000 skeletons found within the chamber's when it was first discovered. These remains had what they termed " long headed skulls" or elongated skulls. At one time you could view those skulls in the museum in Valletta, but they have all now been removed from public viewing.
    https://www.timesofmalta.com/article...eletons.644151

    Some theories are that the Hypogeum was a burial chamber. But I think not. It was definitely build as a sound chamber in the first instance and later used as a burial chamber. My opinion.

    There are also stories of Giants being spotted under the Hypogeum.
    Here is one such story from the 1930s.

    https://borderlandsciences.org/journ...ern_World.html

    There have been research projects carried out within the Hypogeum to research the acustics.
    http://www.otsf.org/hal-saflieni-project.html

    And here
    https://antiquitynow.org/2014/05/15/...-hal-saflieni/

    From the University of Valletta in Malta.

    https://www.um.edu.mt/library/oar/ha...6630?show=full

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    When I actually arrived at the Hypogeum I mentioned to the receptionist at the desk that I had asked for permission to test the sound but was refused. He said that if I could get permission from the rest of the 9 members of my group on my tour. Then I could have a few seconds toning, but I must not disturb the audio tour. So only when the audio stopped ready for the next piece.
    The rest of the group were delighted to give me permission. The receptionist told the guide and I managed a few moments of toning near the oracle.
    Everyone on that tour were quite impressed with that experience. But no cameras, phones or tablets allowed. So no recording.
    When I was leaving I thanked the receptionist and the guide for the honour. I said that I had waited over 20 yrs for that moment. He replied. Quote: "well sir you have now been initiated and you are welcome anytime" cool, as I have another visit pre booked next week. He said if the rest of the group give permission I can have another go. I left there feeling overwhelmed, excited, honoured. Wow.

    I returned for my next visit a week later. One of the benefits of being over 60 was it cost me only €20 instead of €38 to enter which was why I booked two visits.
    The receptionist remembered me and told the guide who was a female guide this time that if the group gave me permission then I could do some toning. The group all gave me the ok. Although I respected that no cameras, phones or tablets were allowed. The list did not mention a personal recorder. Which I carried inside my money and passport pouch. Naughty I know but this was a once in a life time experience. I am certain that the lovely Maltese female guide saw what I had.
    Then she turned around and said. " If you like, I can leave you at the oracle for the whole tour. But it means you will miss out on the tour " I said I saw the tour last week and I would be gratefully honoured to just listen this time.
    Ok she said. But I must not leave the spot until the rest of the tour returns. And only tone between gaps in the audio. I gave her a bow and said thank you.

    When I was left at the oracle and the tour moved on everything was plunged into total darkness as the lights only come on at each stage of the tour. I fumbled trying to get my recorder ready. When I switched it on it lit up. I was nervous but managed a short recording. Which I took to my sound engineerings friend yesterday to clean up. Because I held it in my hand there was clicks from my fingers and all sorts of background noises from the other visitors and the audio.

    I knew at one moment I tuned into the key of the structure but was not sure if I caught it on the recording. But I definitely felt it in my body. My chest was vibrating with the resonance. My friend set it up and I had caught that moment. So I asked him to just loop that moment for me. This he did. There are no added reverb or echo on this wee sample. All pure Hypogeum resonance.

    Excuse the deep breathing and not very good toning. I was nervous and my throat tightened. But it will give you an idea of the quality of sound. Better to listen with earphones.

    link to my attempt at toning. MP3 3 minutes long. Have head phones on for a better listen.

    http://projectavalon.net/Billy_tonin...e_Hypogeum.mp3
    Last edited by Billy; 24th September 2018 at 12:15. Reason: Add link.
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    I found your post very interesting, especially the acoustic qualities of these ancient structures, what an amazing place.

    Cheers

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    Quote Posted by Billy (here)
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    The Hypogeum has been built with amazing acustics qualities within the plan. A lost knowledge from the ancient builders as far as I am concerned. As some of you already know I have travelled around the world seeking out ancient structures and temples with acustic properties. India being my last trip which I shared with you all on my Ajanta / Ellora thread. I have also visited sound structures in Greece, Turkey and of course Scotland. But the Hypogeum takes the cake as far as quality of resonance is concerned.
    Literally, out of this world.
    I have wanted to visit Malta and the hypogeum for many years. I look forward to hearing more about your visit there. Have you tested the acoustics of the King's chamber of the Great pyramid?

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    Awesome Billy, thank you for sharing this. Gorgeous tones, and a wonderful experience, I would dearly love to visit the Hypogeum myself some day.
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    Quote Posted by leavesoftrees (here)
    I have wanted to visit Malta and the hypogeum for many years. I look forward to hearing more about your visit there. Have you tested the acoustics of the King's chamber of the Great pyramid?


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    Awesome Billy, thank you for sharing this. Gorgeous tones, and a wonderful experience, I would dearly love to visit the Hypogeum myself some day.
    A Great place for an Avalon gathering. another 7 folks and we can hire the Hypogeum for an hour all to ourselves I am up for it maybe next year or year after

    So far I have never visited Egypt leavesoftrees. But it is on my bucket list and the king's chamber will definitely be visited.i was always waiting for the hall of records to be found before I visited Egypt.
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    Billy, I found your text and audio fascinating. It's amazing how modern structures built for music, have the same general shape.

    As I was listening to your audio, a little hummingbird flew in front of me, hovered, and then zipped away. How lucky you are to have visited such a place. Thank you for sharing.
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    Quote Posted by Billy (here)
    A Great place for an Avalon gathering. another 7 folks and we can hire the Hypogeum for an hour all to ourselves I am up for it maybe next year or year after
    Wonderful, count me in for sure!

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    So far I have never visited Egypt leavesoftrees. But it is on my bucket list and the king's chamber will definitely be visited.i was always waiting for the hall of records to be found before I visited Egypt.
    I would not be surprised if they had been found! (in secret of course). But Egypt is also on my bucket list.

    I've visited a number of ancient sites in the past. The two most powerful (in an 'energy' sense) which left lasting impressions on me, were Chichen-Itza in Mexico, and Delphi in Greece. I'd love to return to each one day.
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    WOW!! What a wonderful Birthday Gift for me to wake up to the wonderful post & toning!

    Thank you so much for posting your impressions & the articles! Amazing information!!

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    Creepy Subterranean Caves That Prove There is Something Strange Going in Our World
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    These chambers like Hypogeum are stargates. Look at the symbol at 19'15" and compare it with Hypogeum.
    After go to 43'20"... he speaks about Hypogeum.
    My personal view of this thread is, it depends on the frequency you can open a portal to a different place or dimension.
    But this specifical frequency that Barry speak of, it opens the "doorway" to the "snakes" realm.....so better we must leave that alone...!!!!
    I was with Jad this equinox in Delphi (Corycian Cave) and we make a healing ceremony with bubble orgonite.
    I think that is a much better approach for these energy places.
    Go to these power places (ley lines) of mother earth and make a healing ceremony...help her evolve!!

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    I so wanted to go there when I lived in Europe but didn't make it so thank you for your personal experience adventure and photos.


    From Sicily down to Malta something major was happening at the time of Gobeki Tepe when the sea level was much lower. and Malta mysteries are this old which is older than they tell us.

    For example just in 2015 :


    9,350-Year-Old Stonehenge-Style Monolith Found in Mediterranean Sea


    The man-made monolith is at least 9,350 years old. It weighs about 15 tons and is broken into two parts.

    It has three regular holes of similar diameter: one that crosses it completely on its top, and another two at two sides of the monolith.

    There are no reasonable known natural processes that may produce these elements, according to Dr Emanuele Lodolo from the National Institute of Oceanography and Experimental Geophysics in Italy and Dr Zvi Ben-Avraham from the University of Haifa and Tel Aviv University in Israel, who found the monolith.

    “The monolith is made from stone other than those which constitute all the neighboring outcrops, and is quite isolated with respect to them,” the scientists said.

    “It is composed of calcirudites of Late Pleistocene age, as determined from radiocarbon measurements conducted on several shell fragments extracted from the rock samples.”

    The monolith was found on the Pantelleria Vecchia Bank, a former island of the Sicilian Channel.

    The island, according to the archaeologists, was dramatically submerged during a flood around 9,300 years ago.

    “The obtained age falls chronologically within the beginning of the Mesolithic period of the SE Europe and Middle East,” Dr Lodolo and Dr Ben-Avraham said.


    http://www.sci-news.com/archaeology/...ily-03121.html

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    Billy, I was in the Hypogeum about twelve years ago. And it is indeed a fascinating place. I wasn't at that time aware of toning, maybe it would have been easier to do then, than now.

    The Egyptian King's chamber of the great pyramid I have visited twice leavesoftrees. Something to never forget. The first time the chamber was intact, and it is surprising how small it really is.
    The sarcophagus fills up a large part of the room, which I found very odd. The second time, they had made a huge hole in one of the walls to put a ventilator in! At least 1 meter diameter, how crazy is that?
    There were only a few hundred visitors allowed a day, then. And the condensation was enormous inside. The room is quite a way walking inside the pyramid, and that is why people's breath cause the condensation
    I think. Still, ruining that room was "sacrilegious" in my opinion.

    Then Delphi, was also a special place. The omphalos has always fascinated me, as well as the stories of the "E at Delphi". Lots of explanations, but I believe the real meaning hasn't come up yet.
    The hike up the mountain where the Corycian cave is was one of the nicest walks I ever made. I remember it was in late February, 2012.

    Other powerful place I would like to mention: the shroud of Turin; Magnetic Island and Uluru in Australia; Iona, Scottish island of Mull; Bornholm in Denmark; and Sedona, but in 1978... before the not-so-nice change in this area.

    I used to travel a lot, now I have less the occasion. But hopefully, in a not too far future again. Who knows.

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    Thanks, as always Billy. I appreciate the audio of your sounding. I also appreciate that so many have shared and more will do so.

    I add that the upper roof chamber of the palate and it's highly sensitive interactions with the higher senses is our carry-along cave of opening awareness. It is natural and expected when in a relaxed meditative state that the tongue rests up to the upper palate.

    It is one of the avenues of transcendence beyond the mundane world, with the ability to heal all those who engage it. The Maya shamans called it the connection to the heavens, so resonance in that chamber of the mouth is always with us.

    I encourage anyone to make their own sacred space, a natural place of interconnected resonance. In your home, on your property, etc. Find a cave. Check it out for insects, critters, safety. Base using it on how you feel there and don't be hesitant to leave the space if it doesn't feel right. Oh yeah, and remember to always bring your own inner, habitual critters into the meditative space as that is the best place to face them and choose what you would do with them.

    In times past, and only a few now, these spaces were used for healing. The optimum is comprised of individual dome shaped chambers, arranged in a circle and open to the middle larger dome wherein someone or thing, or a representative of it's essence is placed to receive the healing energy of the Naad, the Sound Current, The Song of The Soul that those around the center are creating. Experimentation is always a worthy creation.

    I have been saddened, but have learned to accept that challenge without diversion, that humanity does so very little of this self-and-community empowering series of practices, considering that it is an innate channel of such tremendous healing and travel energy unique to the species. It's funny seeing it explored as if it is some rare experience, but it is such. I highly recommend it. Sacredness you carry but sometimes, like me, forget it.

    By the way, almost always, it is best sung, chanted and listened to WITH others. Do not forget to allow yourself the time needed to stay there and absorb the universe responding. Be quiet for some time before leaving, or you might miss the beauty of the response, the song resonating within.

    If you wish please share your experiences with us here.
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    Quote Posted by Billy (here)
    Quote Posted by leavesoftrees (here)
    I have wanted to visit Malta and the hypogeum for many years. I look forward to hearing more about your visit there. Have you tested the acoustics of the King's chamber of the Great pyramid?


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    Awesome Billy, thank you for sharing this. Gorgeous tones, and a wonderful experience, I would dearly love to visit the Hypogeum myself some day.
    A Great place for an Avalon gathering. another 7 folks and we can hire the Hypogeum for an hour all to ourselves I am up for it maybe next year or year after

    So far I have never visited Egypt leavesoftrees. But it is on my bucket list and the king's chamber will definitely be visited.i was always waiting for the hall of records to be found before I visited Egypt.
    An Avalon gathering in the Hypogeum! That would be an amazing experience. The Gayatri Mantra would sound incredible in there; the acoustics sound perfect for it!

    I’d probably get scared we might wake some sleeping giants though


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    What a cool place, thanks for sharing!!
    I've always wanted to go to Malta myself! So much history there, and yep an avalon gathering there would be great!

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    Quote Posted by Keyholder (here)
    The Egyptian King's chamber of the great pyramid I have visited twice leavesoftrees. Something to never forget. The first time the chamber was intact, and it is surprising how small it really is.
    The sarcophagus fills up a large part of the room, which I found very odd. The second time, they had made a huge hole in one of the walls to put a ventilator in! At least 1 meter diameter, how crazy is that?
    There were only a few hundred visitors allowed a day, then. And the condensation was enormous inside. The room is quite a way walking inside the pyramid, and that is why people's breath cause the condensation
    I think. Still, ruining that room was "sacrilegious" in my opinion.

    Then Delphi, was also a special place. The omphalos has always fascinated me, as well as the stories of the "E at Delphi". Lots of explanations, but I believe the real meaning hasn't come up yet.
    The hike up the mountain where the Corycian cave is was one of the nicest walks I ever made. I remember it was in late February, 2012.

    Other powerful place I would like to mention: the shroud of Turin; Magnetic Island and Uluru in Australia; Iona, Scottish island of Mull; Bornholm in Denmark; and Sedona, but in 1978... before the not-so-nice change in this area.

    I used to travel a lot, now I have less the occasion. But hopefully, in a not too far future again. Who knows.
    Yes the king's chamber is very special, I was not aware that they had installed the ventilator. i was there with a group of 6 people, the chamber resonates like no other structure I have been inside. It changes your consciousness quite profoundly!
    I would add Maes Howe on the Orkney Islands to your list

    What was your experience on Magnetic Island?

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    Hi guys. Just to say my original intention was to add my visits to other ancient sites, mostly the standing stone Temples on Malta and Gozo into this thread. But I am having second thoughts now as a good conversation has developed in here and I do not want to spoil it.
    So I am now thinking that the Hypogeum deserves a thread of its own and we just continue as is in here for now.

    Plus it looks like that more Avalonians are quite serious about meeting up in Malta in the future and visiting the Hypogeum and I would suggest other ancient sites. It is a small Island with a treasure trove of ancient sites and history.

    If we are serious ?, because I am serious. Then we would have to book the Hypogeum at least a year in advance then work around that date for flights and accommodation. Off season in September or October is a good time to visit weather wise and accommodation drops in price big time off season. But I am open to whatever everyone thinks. I would rather go when there are no school holidays. 2019 or 2020 suits me.
    Just putting this out there.

    This was an interesting mural I found just around the corner from my accommodation in Sliema.

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    I then met up with Avalon member MalteseKnight and unknown to him that I had already taken a photo of this mural. We got talking about tunnels and portals.

    Then he sent me this. He enters in Malta and exits in Italy

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    Plus an interesting interview with Kev Baker interviewing James Swagger. James talks about the Hypogeum, the long headed Skulls found inside the Hypogeum and acustics.

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    Regarding the giants' skeletons found in the hypogeum, these type of skeletons, some with elongated skulls and/or six digit fingers and/or two rows of teeth, have been found all over the world, such as Catalina island off California (all the skeletons have been 'lost' by the smithsonian), Europe, etc. In Peracus Peru some of the skeletons that have been found arent necessarily giants, but are bigger than regular people of their time.

    These giants have been equated to the Denisovian humans recently found in Russia. A human tooth found in that cave was i believe the largest ever found. So the Denisovian breed are equated with giants.

    So, the postulation (speculation) is that those giants were the dominant human species in anti-deluvian times. Some survived the great flood right into fairly recent times, as evidenced by these skeletal remains. These late survivors were likely hybrids with homo-sapiens. The suggestion is that they had trouble reproducing and evetually went extinct.

    It is quite possible, actually quite likely, that these Denisovian giants were the rulers of Atlantis and Lemuria. Their increased cranial capacity most likely enabled the advanced tech that produced the Giza pyramids, the global mapping evidenced by the Pirri Ries map and the pyramid structures found all over the world. Another example of their skills is the Maltese Hypogeum.

    It is also quite possible that these Denisovians did not think much of homo sapiens. An artifact documented in Bill's Camelot interview with Klaus Dona shows an inscription of a man wearing a helmet with an antenna that broadcast a signal that made all the people around him obedient (or so it seemed). They may have seen us as inferior. Anyhow, they are gone now, unless some survivors are off planet or underground. Just part of Earth's hidden past.

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    Billy, sometime in 2019 or 2020 when there are no school holidays would be good to visit the Hypogeum and Malta. IF we can get a group together here that is. I suppose that if there would be four or five of us, it still would be possible to visit privately, but then at a higher cost per person? You're 64 right? I am 61. I wonder with how many (10?) we would need to be and at what cost for the group. It looks like a great idea anyway, and you can "count me in", if the dates are fitting.

    Leavesoftrees, Magnetic Island was a very exceptional experience for me, because it started in 1973. I was in the town of Spa (in Belgium, it's where the name "spa" comes from as this town is known for its baths) when one morning I woke up with the name of a town in Australia in my mind. I was 16 at the time. I had no idea where this came from, I didn't even know whether this place really existed. So, back home I looked it up, and sure enough, that city did exist. In Queensland. The name was "Townsville". I have ever since been interested in Australia and the South Pacific in general (it even became the subject of my MA-thesis and MBA-thesis). Probably it is related to "past lives" there, I had an experience with Captain Cook's Endeavour in the mid 90's and more specifically with a botanist on his boat (Banks).

    In 1985 I finally made it to Townsville. 12 years later. I sort of recognized the area (I came in by bus into Townsville) though I had not been there yet. While walking around town, I was wondering what had "attracted" me to this place. And then, suddenly, I saw in a window of a travel agent "Come to Magnetic Island". An island a short ferry ride away. I figured that if I was "attracted" from the other side of the planet to this place, then Magnetic island was maybe where I needed to go. I did go there for three days, had several good experiences there (I enjoyed Horseshoe Bay a lot) and then continued my Australia-trip.

    In 2000 I went there again, somehow it felt like the "end of a cycle" and I was supposed to go there. I think I did the right thing, so it felt anyway (though it also was kind of strange...why was it necessary?).

    Between 1975 and 2010 I visited a lot of places all over the world, in many cases because I felt "called" to go there, and most times very unusual things happened. So, I never did regret any of these voyages. I just loved to travel too, so that was "a bonus".

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    Quote Posted by Keyholder (here)
    Billy, sometime in 2019 or 2020 when there are no school holidays would be good to visit the Hypogeum and Malta. IF we can get a group together here that is. I suppose that if there would be four or five of us, it still would be possible to visit privately, but then at a higher cost per person? You're 64 right? I am 61. I wonder with how many (10?) we would need to be and at what cost for the group. It looks like a great idea anyway, and you can "count me in", if the dates are fitting.
    Thank you Keyholder. With the Euro being now equal to the pound, the tour is quite expensive if you are under 59. It is €38 or £38 per person. 60+ as a senior citizen or a student, It drops to €20. I just did a experiment and looked at booking a year from now, September 2019 and all 10 tickets are available for the day and time I had chosen.

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    It was fully booked up to the end of this year and beginning of 2019, but most bookings were available for later in 2019.

    So I say we are in no rush to book ahead for the time being.

    If more people are seriously thinking about going, I would create a thread in the members only forum to discuss this further.
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