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    Cayce gives the following three dates closely associated with the stages of destruction of Atlantis. He states that it wasn't a singular event.

    50,000 BCE 1st stage

    28,000 BCE 2nd stage

    10,000 BCE 3rd and Final stage
    Confirmed by multiple other sources too. Lemuria was different however, and had far more ancient origins than Atlantis. Materially they were very primitive, but mentally/psychically very advanced. They were already long gone with the third destruction of Atlantis. Although you could say, and I do say, there's a 4th stage to the fall of Atlantis.

    0 BCE (today).

    The original landmass may be gone, but it's heirs are not. We are the continuation of Atlantis, and our modern world with its densities, light/dark polarities and all the karmic struggles, are an extension of that same Atlantean paradigm. One way or another, it's coming to a final conclusion.
    Svali, well known Illuminati whistleblower, has recounted in some detail their position on this and how seriously they take the beliefs you have alluded to here, in particular being the Atlantean heirs of such polarities involving ritual magic.

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    Sorry folks Atlantis is a myth. Just as are many other ancient stories.

    The human spine consists of 33 bones stacked on top of one another. The top vertebrae that holds up the human skull is called Altas . The King of Atlantis was named "Atlas". In Atlantean mythology, Atlas holds up the world or the heavens and in your body the Atlas vertebrae holds up your head/mind.

    Plato’s account of Atlantis described a “ceremonial column at the very midpoint of the Temple of Poseidon, itself located at the center of Atlantis.” The ceremonial column (Oak Tree, Tree of Life, Staff of Moses etc.) is the human spine with 33 vertebrae.

    In Atlantean mythology, Atlas has 7 daughters who spent all their time guarding and dancing around the "ceremonial column" (Tree of Life). In your body you have 7 energy centers (chakras) dancing around your spine.

    The pineal gland (6th chakra, the third-eye) lies at the geometrical center point of the brain and it resembles a bullseye. Atlantis was described as a bullseye.

    Atlantis sunk, for those that never raised the energy through the seven seals. The Universe is a cyclic cosmic clock, and the light retreats from mankind every 13,000 years, this is the sinking or submerging of consciousness to the lower ego mind, Atlantis sinking. The golden age of Aquarius, is Atlantis rising, one returning back to source, unconditioned free consciousness.

    The most sacred secrets of the Masons and world Royalty pertain to the chakra/energetic system,
    As above, so below; in other words structures and patterns of energy, the very formation of matter/energy replicates in all things. Rather like the hologram, and fractals - the structure of nature, the fundamental layout of our universe is replicated in everything that is manifested, everything which emerges from our universe. The fact that the human vertebrae has 33 bones, and we call the pivotal element 'Atlas' is a function of this replicated order. In the same way that the 'mosaic' coding for web browsers unconsciously replicates the underlying order in space/time/matter (according to one American physicist); this just happens to be one of the 'keys' for creation - we have discovered how to create worlds, within worlds via virtuality, because we now understand this relationship in the underlying order of reality. What I am saying is: The mythology of Atlantis is certainly recognised, but the 'co-incidental' patterns you describe are not necessarily a refutation of whether Atlantis actually existed, they are a result of the entire replication of the implicate order as proposed by David Bohm I would say. No offense intended.

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    Atlantis simply means "CITY OF ATLAS" which tells you right there it was never a continent in the first place it's a city everyone should be looking for not a long lost continent that disappeared but aside from this Atlas did exist so it stands to reason that somewhere there was a city if not more than one in his honor named after him.
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    Sorry folks Atlantis is a myth. Just as are many other ancient stories.

    The human spine consists of 33 bones stacked on top of one another. The top vertebrae that holds up the human skull is called Altas . The King of Atlantis was named "Atlas". In Atlantean mythology, Atlas holds up the world or the heavens and in your body the Atlas vertebrae holds up your head/mind.

    Plato’s account of Atlantis described a “ceremonial column at the very midpoint of the Temple of Poseidon, itself located at the center of Atlantis.” The ceremonial column (Oak Tree, Tree of Life, Staff of Moses etc.) is the human spine with 33 vertebrae.

    In Atlantean mythology, Atlas has 7 daughters who spent all their time guarding and dancing around the "ceremonial column" (Tree of Life). In your body you have 7 energy centers (chakras) dancing around your spine.

    The pineal gland (6th chakra, the third-eye) lies at the geometrical center point of the brain and it resembles a bullseye. Atlantis was described as a bullseye.

    Atlantis sunk, for those that never raised the energy through the seven seals. The Universe is a cyclic cosmic clock, and the light retreats from mankind every 13,000 years, this is the sinking or submerging of consciousness to the lower ego mind, Atlantis sinking. The golden age of Aquarius, is Atlantis rising, one returning back to source, unconditioned free consciousness.

    The most sacred secrets of the Masons and world Royalty pertain to the chakra/energetic system,
    So 🙌 much 🙌 this 🙌

    All of the myths are allegory for the awakening process, including the bible. So lovely to see this here.

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    Atlantis simply means "CITY OF ATLAS" which tells you right there it was never a continent in the first place
    No, it doesn't. It means Island of Atlas. Plato tells Us:

    "...for in front of the mouth which you Greeks call, as you say, 'the pillars of Heracles,' there lay an island which was larger than Libya and Asia together; and it was possible for the travelers of that time to cross from it to the other islands, and from the islands to the whole of the continent over against them which encompasses that veritable ocean...."


    Don't buy into the lies! Atlantis was a continent, a fact settled thousands of years ago. Those who claim it was just a 'city' are the same who insist you look over here at Santorini for the answer, or the Sahara, Malta, Sardinia, Ireland, South America. Atlantis is and always was in the mid-Atlantic. As a continent.

    Most by now must surely be aware of the meddlers and magicians and fake-history constructionists that oversee our paradigm of lies. They promote countless books and countless more television series on just RED HERRINGS. They perform every possible trick to keep people thinking conventional, mundane, and small, anything and everything to keep you off-scent and off-target. Atlantis is just one instance. They also concoct 'persuasive' evidence of Bigfoot being a myth, or just a bear, and Roswell being a weather balloon, or maybe a stray missile. And so on and so on. Wake up and smell the crap. We live in an era of deception, fraud, and suppressed truth. It's essential to their narrative that they keep the public oblivious to things like highly advanced antediluvian civilizations -- to the fact that the last 2,000 years is just a blip on the vast timeline of REAL human history.
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    Quote Posted by Ratszinger (here)
    Atlantis simply means "CITY OF ATLAS" which tells you right there it was never a continent in the first place
    No, it doesn't. It means Island of Atlas. Plato tells Us:

    "...for in front of the mouth which you Greeks call, as you say, 'the pillars of Heracles,' there lay an island which was larger than Libya and Asia together; and it was possible for the travelers of that time to cross from it to the other islands, and from the islands to the whole of the continent over against them which encompasses that veritable ocean...."


    Don't buy into the lies! Atlantis was a continent, a fact settled thousands of years ago. Those who claim it was just a 'city' are the same who insist you look over here at Santorini for the answer, or the Sahara, Malta, Sardinia, Ireland, South America. Atlantis is and always was in the mid-Atlantic. As a continent.

    Most by now must surely be aware of the meddlers and magicians and fake-history constructionists that oversee our paradigm of lies. They promote countless books and countless more television series on just RED HERRINGS. They perform every possible trick to keep people thinking conventional, mundane, and small, anything and everything to keep you off-scent and off-target. Atlantis is just one instance. They also concoct 'persuasive' evidence of Bigfoot being a myth, or just a bear, and Roswell being a weather balloon, or maybe a stray missile. And so on and so on. Wake up and smell the crap. We live in an era of deception, fraud, and suppressed truth. It's essential to their narrative that they keep the public oblivious to things like highly advanced antediluvian civilizations -- to the fact that the last 2,000 years is just a blip on the vast timeline of REAL human history.
    Seriously? There is no doubt that ancient civilisations with extraordinary technologies existed but Plato was a philosopher, not a historian and like the bible, he specifically states that he talks in allegory. No actual Greek historian ever mentions Atlantis.

    The fall of Atlantis is similar to the story of Noah’s Ark and describe what happen when we lose touch with our divinity. Taking these stories literally means we miss the super important information contained therein. The story of Noah’s Ark is especially pertinent at this time given what we’re seeing on our planet at the moment.

    The bible warned us of a time when corruption and violence would overtake the planet. Whilst some would argue this has always been true, it’s never been more so now and we’ve never had such capacity to do such damage. Noah’s Ark asks us to heed the call when the signs present themselves to build our own ark to protect ourselves and our family from the approaching storm.

    Building the ark means engaging in meditation and opening a direct channel to God/Source/The Universe rather than listening to our neighbours or leaders so that we can escape the storm and the resulting chaos and violence and be placed safely on the mountain top, finding oneness with Christ Consciousness. Noah took 7 with him into the ark thereby representing the 7 chakras. He also took 2 of every animal, one of each gender, representing our logic and emotion and every personality derivative or archetype.

    In Genesis 6:16 it says: A window shall you make to the ark, and in a cubit shall you finish it above; so we are warned to keep our focus above the events happening around us similar to when Peter was walking on water and Jesus told him not to look down otherwise he would sink.

    We ignore these messages at our peril. We have to decide if there is now enough evidence that should encourage us to be a Noah and begin to build our meditative ark so we might be saved out of the coming storm. My senses tell me that time is here.

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    Sorry folks Atlantis is a myth. Just as are many other ancient stories. The human spine consists of 33 bones stacked on top of one another. The top vertebrae that holds up the human skull is called Altas. The King of Atlantis was named "Atlas". In Atlantean mythology, Atlas holds up the world or the heavens and in your body the Atlas vertebrae holds up your head/mind. Plato’s account of Atlantis described a “ceremonial column at the very midpoint of the Temple of Poseidon, itself located at the center of Atlantis.” The ceremonial column (Oak Tree, Tree of Life, Staff of Moses etc.) is the human spine with 33 vertebrae.
    If we're using Plato's expose on Atlantis to dismiss it's existence, that is a real stretch because he went into a lengthy description of Atlantean life, its culture, geography, the life and layout of its biggest city and of course the wars with Athens which it obviously tried to conquer in it 's later days. No, based on Plato alone, Atlantis was very real indeed.
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    Seriously? There is no doubt that ancient civilisations with extraordinary technologies existed but Plato was a philosopher, not a historian and like the bible, he specifically states that he talks in allegory. No actual Greek historian ever mentions Atlantis
    The fall of Atlantis is similar to the story of Noah’s Ark and describe what happen when we lose touch with our divinity. Taking these stories literally means we miss the super important information contained therein. The story of Noah’s Ark is especially pertinent at this time given what we’re seeing on our planet at the moment.

    The bible warned us of a time when corruption and violence would overtake the planet. Whilst some would argue this has always been true, it’s never been more so now and we’ve never had such capacity to do such damage. Noah’s Ark asks us to heed the call when the signs present themselves to build our own ark to protect ourselves and our family from the approaching storm.

    Building the ark means engaging in meditation and opening a direct channel to God/Source/The Universe rather than listening to our neighbours or leaders so that we can escape the storm and the resulting chaos and violence and be placed safely on the mountain top, finding oneness with Christ Consciousness. Noah took 7 with him into the ark thereby representing the 7 chakras. He also took 2 of every animal, one of each gender, representing our logic and emotion and every personality derivative or archetype.

    In Genesis 6:16 it says: A window shall you make to the ark, and in a cubit shall you finish it above; so we are warned to keep our focus above the events happening around us similar to when Peter was walking on water and Jesus told him not to look down otherwise he would sink.

    We ignore these messages at our peril. We have to decide if there is now enough evidence that should encourage us to be a Noah and begin to build our meditative ark so we might be saved out of the coming storm. My senses tell me that time is here.
    ‘As Above, So Below’, the same developmental cycles the human psyche goes through, the planet as a whole also goes through those same cycles.

    Robert Sepehr did a video on Atlantis earlier this week, where he points out Herodotus, the Greek historian, also talked about Atlantis before Plato was even born. It was definitely a real place, with real history. As well as being a metaphor for spiritual growth. Ancient myths and legends were adept at encoding multiples layers of truth within their narratives.

    History is the one true philosophy and one true psychology” as Napoleon once said.


    Quote Another example is to be found in Book IV of The Histories[1239] where he mentions the Atlantes as being vegetarians and never dreaming (v.184). This apparently strange comment may be explained by the fact that vegetarians are frequently short of vitamin B6, which is recognised today as leading to the suppression of dreams.
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    Edgar Cayce seemed to be quite involved with the whole subject matter of Atlantis from a spiritual and reincarnational point of view.

    Here's what he has written concerning the landmass:

    Atlantis was originally a Continent but the destructive energies were so bad that it split into 5 islands, it then further lost two of those islands which were sunk as the gradual decline continued.

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    Sorry folks Atlantis is a myth. Just as are many other ancient stories. The human spine consists of 33 bones stacked on top of one another. The top vertebrae that holds up the human skull is called Altas. The King of Atlantis was named "Atlas". In Atlantean mythology, Atlas holds up the world or the heavens and in your body the Atlas vertebrae holds up your head/mind. Plato’s account of Atlantis described a “ceremonial column at the very midpoint of the Temple of Poseidon, itself located at the center of Atlantis.” The ceremonial column (Oak Tree, Tree of Life, Staff of Moses etc.) is the human spine with 33 vertebrae.
    If we're using Plato's expose on Atlantis to dismiss it's existence, that is a real stretch because he went into a lengthy description of Atlantean life, its culture, geography, the life and layout of its biggest city and of course the wars with Athens which it obviously tried to conquer in it 's later days. No, based on Plato alone, Atlantis was very real indeed.
    That is quite typical. Esoteric knowledge comprising the keys to awakening and important astrological and numerological information are contained within these ancient texts, their information deliberately disguised to prevent it falling into the wrong hands and ensuring it would only be understood by the initiates.

    I haven’t studied Plato extensively, I’m more a student of the bible, but in quickly assessing his texts about Atlantis, the signs are all there. What’s interesting though is that I’ve spent the day looking at others interpretations of the story and my conclusion is the opposite. From my analysis, the Atlanteans lost touch with their emotional nature.

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    Quote Posted by Justjane (here)
    Seriously? There is no doubt that ancient civilisations with extraordinary technologies existed but Plato was a philosopher, not a historian and like the bible, he specifically states that he talks in allegory. No actual Greek historian ever mentions Atlantis
    The fall of Atlantis is similar to the story of Noah’s Ark and describe what happen when we lose touch with our divinity. Taking these stories literally means we miss the super important information contained therein. The story of Noah’s Ark is especially pertinent at this time given what we’re seeing on our planet at the moment.

    The bible warned us of a time when corruption and violence would overtake the planet. Whilst some would argue this has always been true, it’s never been more so now and we’ve never had such capacity to do such damage. Noah’s Ark asks us to heed the call when the signs present themselves to build our own ark to protect ourselves and our family from the approaching storm.

    Building the ark means engaging in meditation and opening a direct channel to God/Source/The Universe rather than listening to our neighbours or leaders so that we can escape the storm and the resulting chaos and violence and be placed safely on the mountain top, finding oneness with Christ Consciousness. Noah took 7 with him into the ark thereby representing the 7 chakras. He also took 2 of every animal, one of each gender, representing our logic and emotion and every personality derivative or archetype.

    In Genesis 6:16 it says: A window shall you make to the ark, and in a cubit shall you finish it above; so we are warned to keep our focus above the events happening around us similar to when Peter was walking on water and Jesus told him not to look down otherwise he would sink.

    We ignore these messages at our peril. We have to decide if there is now enough evidence that should encourage us to be a Noah and begin to build our meditative ark so we might be saved out of the coming storm. My senses tell me that time is here.
    ‘As Above, So Below’, the same developmental cycles the human psyche goes through, the planet as a whole also goes through those same cycles.

    Robert Sepehr did a video on Atlantis earlier this week, where he points out Herodotus, the Greek historian, also talked about Atlantis before Plato was even born. It was definitely a real place, with real history. As well as being a metaphor for spiritual growth. Ancient myths and legends were adept at encoding multiples layers of truth within their narratives.
    That is true but Herodotus didn’t talk about Atlantis.

    If we are going to use Plato as the source for Atlantis, which we should since no one else has confirmed its existence, there’s no mention of special technology or the like, and he clearly gives the location. Either you trust the guy or you don’t....

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    Plato declared the origin of the story of Atlantis to have been Egyptian as it was brought to Athens from Egypt by Solon.

    Solon (c.630- c.560 BC) was an Athenian magistrate who had travelled amongst the Egyptian priesthood and they told him the story about the destruction of a powerful civilisation many thousands of years earlier through flood and that it was absolutely true and dated the event to about BCE 9000.

    In the Critias there is some reference to these notes of Solon
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    Seriously?
    Yes. I couldn't possibly be MORE serious.

    You are welcome to believe whatever you want to believe, but beliefs are always limited by, and to, the information one has accessed. Consider what you haven't. First, there are mountains of scholarly works, beyond Plato, which would most certainly enhance your resident knowledge. An excellent beginning, a book that gathers centuries of analysis, research and evidence all in one place, is called Atlantis and the Cycles of Time by Joscelyn Godwin. You could study the theosophists too, read Graham Hancock, or the works of Cayce and the tie-in with real discoveries made in Bimini.

    To dismiss Atlantis as a myth, a metaphor, is beyond sloppy, it's just ignorant. Strong words I don't use lightly, and no offence meant. People write off UFOs too having not read a single book about it, or spent a single second looking into the subject. Yet they think that somehow their 'belief' (or non-belief) is still valid. It isn't. Many people on this board - myself included - don't just believe in Atlantis, we know. Because we were there. Some of us have ACTUAL past life memories of that land and those times. Yes, Seriously.

    We know.

    Quote Posted by Justjane (here)
    Taking these stories literally means we miss the super important information contained therein.
    How?? If we take them as a metaphor we only end up fabricating abstract meanings to fit our desired narrative. Which you did with Noah's Ark. A convenient but terrible way to interpret history. Sometimes a story is just a story. Or in the case of Noah, a 'scrambled' account of real events recorded by folklore and passed down the generations. There's no doubt whatsoever that a extensive flood did devastate the ancient world. Maybe there was indeed a Noah, and an Ark, but that tale was most definitely embellished and distorted (centuries after the event by scribes who were not present) to generate a parable - and that's where the peril lies: if we get hung up on metaphor, we may miss the most important thing. In the story of Noah it's: there was once an ancient flood that devastated the ancient world. That really happened, it's recorded by cultures around the globe.

    The peril lies in writing off History as purely myth, metaphor, and misrepresentation. If we think the ancients were confused, ignorant, superstitious fools writing down only metaphors and fairytales, it is we who are the fools.
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    That is true but Herodotus didn’t talk about Atlantis.

    If we are going to use Plato as the source for Atlantis, which we should since no one else has confirmed its existence, there’s no mention of special technology or the like, and he clearly gives the location. Either you trust the guy or you don’t....
    Already posted the Herodotus reference where he mentions Atlantis 60 years before Plato does. Here it is again incase you missed it the first time around.

    Herodotus — ‘The Histories‘ Book IV v184:
    Quote 184 Rawlinson p162 H & W After another ten days' journey from the Garamantes there is again a salt hillock and water; men dwell there called Atarantes. They are the only men known to us who have no names; for the whole people are called Atarantes, but no man has a name of his own. These when the sun is exceeding hot curse and most foully revile him, for that his burning heat afflicts their people and their land. After another ten days' journey there is again a hillock of salt, and water, and men dwelling there. Near to this salt is a mountain called Atlas, the shape p389 whereof is slender and a complete circle; and it is said to be so high that its summits cannot be seen, for cloud is ever upon them winter and summer. The people of the country call it the pillar of heaven. These men have got their name, which is Atlantes, from this mountain. It is said that they eat no living creature, and see no dreams in their sleep.

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    Default Re: Ancient Egypt: Actually a part of the Atlantean civilization

    I would say Atlantis is a combination.

    Plato derived his knowledge from Egypt, didn't make it up.

    It may simultaneously mean the main island, an epoch of the entire world, and be related to metaphysics. Certainly, in Indian metaphysics, the land is about the same as the human being, they are equal, one is outer, one is inner. The whole principle is that there is a related continuity from stellar constellations through the earth into your body and psychology.

    The difference with Egypt is there is not much continuity from its classical culture. Tons of time has been spent by people attempting to re-create it; India does not have this problem.

    Does India have antediluvian features, such as Dwarka and Adam's Bridge? It does.

    Did it float over from Africa? Probably not.

    There is zero observable evidence of tectonic plate drift. The plates may move a few meters or perhaps a few hundred meters laterally, but, the metaphysical idea is more that they rise and fall vertically. There is a modern school of this with degreed professional scientists, which is heavily banned/ostracized/suppressed by the establishment.

    Around the time of the discovery of the Rosetta stone, attempts to understand some of the Egyptian lore probably did represent western man's metaphysical peak. But it gets messy quick. So I don't get deeply involved with it.

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    Default Re: Ancient Egypt: Actually a part of the Atlantean civilization

    Dark Journalist's X series of youtube episodes are often focused on the "Hot Zone" off the shore of Cuba, where there are underwater ruins from the the time of Atlantis, as well as other ruins from that time period and other evidence that Atlantis really existed.
    Edgar Cayce's readings play into that quite a bit as well, and corroboration of those readings.
    The evidence has been presented somewhat chronologically, as DJ finds it, so it's best to start at the beginning of each of his series of programs, but not absolutely necessary.
    Though he will refer back to previous shows frequently, and unless you've listened to those, of course, you may not know what he's referring to.
    His latest in the X Series here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZlzfNdx9E4
    ... wouldn't be a bad place to start to understand more about the significance of the "Hot Zone" and why it is a very hot, though largely secret topic.
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    Quote Posted by Star Mariner (here)
    Quote Posted by Justjane (here)
    Seriously?
    Yes. I couldn't possibly be MORE serious.

    You are welcome to believe whatever you want to believe, but beliefs are always limited by, and to, the information one has accessed. Consider what you haven't. First, there are mountains of scholarly works, beyond Plato, which would most certainly enhance your resident knowledge. An excellent beginning, a book that gathers centuries of analysis, research and evidence all in one place, is called Atlantis and the Cycles of Time by Joscelyn Godwin. You could study the theosophists too, read Graham Hancock, or the works of Cayce and the tie-in with real discoveries made in Bimini.

    To dismiss Atlantis as a myth, a metaphor, is beyond sloppy, it's just ignorant. Strong words I don't use lightly, and no offence meant. People write off UFOs too having not read a single book about it, or spent a single second looking into the subject. Yet they think that somehow their 'belief' (or non-belief) is still valid. It isn't. Many people on this board - myself included - don't just believe in Atlantis, we know. Because we were there. Some of us have ACTUAL past life memories of that land and those times. Yes, Seriously.

    We know.

    Quote Posted by Justjane (here)
    Taking these stories literally means we miss the super important information contained therein.
    How?? If we take them as a metaphor we only end up fabricating abstract meanings to fit our desired narrative. Which you did with Noah's Ark. A convenient but terrible way to interpret history. Sometimes a story is just a story. Or in the case of Noah, a 'scrambled' account of real events recorded by folklore and passed down the generations. There's no doubt whatsoever that a extensive flood did devastate the ancient world. Maybe there was indeed a Noah, and an Ark, but that tale was most definitely embellished and distorted (centuries after the event by scribes who were not present) to generate a parable - and that's where the peril lies: if we get hung up on metaphor, we may miss the most important thing. In the story of Noah it's: there was once an ancient flood that devastated the ancient world. That really happened, it's recorded by cultures around the globe.

    The peril lies in writing off History as purely myth, metaphor, and misrepresentation. If we think the ancients were confused, ignorant, superstitious fools writing down only metaphors and fairytales, it is we who are the fools.
    Again, seriously? We see this upside down and backwards. I see historical determinism as the most juvenile interpretation and it’s transformation into myth and magic it’s elevation. The ancients were not confused, ignorant, superstitious fools writing metaphors and fairytales, that is just absurd, these writings are perfect, did you not read my other comments? These texts are examples of esoteric writings which contain the tools to our awakening along with important astrological and numerological information and prophesy. Fairytales? Seriously? I just can’t.

    Imagining Noah’s Ark is about a flood is insulting to anyone who wrote it or read it. We are urged to develop a relationship with Christ consciousness so that we might foresee danger and rise above it so as to not get caught in the quagmire. Human beings have lost touch with their ability to be, their intuition, their natural instincts and their connection to all including Mother Earth. Awakening brings us back in alignment. Do you remember the tsunami in South East Asia and the reports of animals fleeing for safety before the deluge hit? This is why reconnection is so important.

    Did a cataclysmic flood happen? Maybe. Have cataclysmic events happened on earth before and will they happen again? Most definitely.

    I really don’t think proving a flood happened is the important takeaway here.

    As to Atlantis. It’s a story about balance. Poseidon settles Atlantis with his progeny. Poseidon is the god of the ocean, or the god of emotion. He married a woman, marriage symbolises union with Christ consciousness, and they had 10 sons, 10 is the symbol of perfection. Indeed, the entire story is about how perfect Atlantis was. The god of emotion had 10 sons (logic). A perfect union of reason and emotion. But Atlantis fell out of balance. They became too focussed on logic and reasoning. Everything worked so perfectly and life was so easy and peacefully that they were no longer moved by things ordinary humans would prize. They lost touch with their humanity (emotion).

    I’m not arguing that ancient civilisations with extraordinary technology didn’t exist, I’m arguing that that isn’t the takeaway here and many of you are wasting your time thinking it does.
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    That is true but Herodotus didn’t talk about Atlantis.

    If we are going to use Plato as the source for Atlantis, which we should since no one else has confirmed its existence, there’s no mention of special technology or the like, and he clearly gives the location. Either you trust the guy or you don’t....
    Already posted the Herodotus reference where he mentions Atlantis 60 years before Plato does. Here it is again incase you missed it the first time around.

    Herodotus — ‘The Histories‘ Book IV v184:
    Quote 184 Rawlinson p162 H & W After another ten days' journey from the Garamantes there is again a salt hillock and water; men dwell there called Atarantes. They are the only men known to us who have no names; for the whole people are called Atarantes, but no man has a name of his own. These when the sun is exceeding hot curse and most foully revile him, for that his burning heat afflicts their people and their land. After another ten days' journey there is again a hillock of salt, and water, and men dwelling there. Near to this salt is a mountain called Atlas, the shape p389 whereof is slender and a complete circle; and it is said to be so high that its summits cannot be seen, for cloud is ever upon them winter and summer. The people of the country call it the pillar of heaven. These men have got their name, which is Atlantes, from this mountain. It is said that they eat no living creature, and see no dreams in their sleep.
    Ahh, haven’t come across that before. I didn’t think to search Atlas. Atlas here though is a mountain, not an island, and there’s no mention of their amazing culture and technology.

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    Quote Posted by Peter UK (here)
    Plato declared the origin of the story of Atlantis to have been Egyptian as it was brought to Athens from Egypt by Solon.

    Solon (c.630- c.560 BC) was an Athenian magistrate who had travelled amongst the Egyptian priesthood and they told him the story about the destruction of a powerful civilisation many thousands of years earlier through flood and that it was absolutely true and dated the event to about BCE 9000.

    In the Critias there is some reference to these notes of Solon
    This more confirms that Atlantis as metaphor theory since the Egyptians are known metaphysical masters.

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    There is far too much evidence to corroborate that Atlantis was far more than a myth. It was as real as anything. Many people living right now are Atlanteans reincarnated. The most important work and info about this topic has come from Edgar Cayce, Graham Hancock and the likes of that. Also this is what the Law of One (perhaps the purest channeled material ever) says about the subject:

    Quote Ra: I am Ra. This is the last question of this work. The civilizations of Atlantis and Lemuria were not one but two. Let us look first at the Mu entities.

    They were beings of a somewhat primitive nature, but those who had very advanced spiritual distortions. The civilization was part of this cycle, experienced early within the cycle at a time of approximately five three oh oh oh, fifty-three thousand [53,000] of your years ago. It was an helpful and harmless place which was washed beneath the ocean during a readjustment of your sphere’s tectonic plates through no action of their own. They set out those who survived and reached many places in what you call Russia, North America, and South America. The Indians of whom you have come to feel some sympathy in your social complex distortions are the descendants of these entities. Like the other incarnates of this cycle, they came from elsewhere. However, these particular entities were largely drawn from a second-density planet which had some difficulty, due to the age of its sun, in achieving third-density life conditions. This planet was from the galaxy Deneb.

    The Atlantean race was a very conglomerate social complex which began to form approximately three one oh oh oh, thirty-one thousand [31,000] years in the past of your space/time continuum illusion. It was a slow growing and very agrarian society until approximately one five oh oh oh, fifteen thousand [15,000] of your years ago. It reached quickly a high technological understanding which caused it to be able to use intelligent infinity in a less informative manner. We may add that they used intelligent energy as well, manipulating greatly the natural influxes of the indigo or pineal ray from divine or infinite energy. Thus, they were able to create life forms. This they began to do instead of healing and perfecting their own mind/body/spirit complexes, turning their distortions towards what you may call the negative.

    Approximately eleven thousand [11,000] of your years ago, the first of the, what you call, wars, caused approximately forty percent of this population to leave the density by means of disintegration of the body. The second and most devastating of the conflicts occurred approximately one oh eight two one, ten thousand eight hundred twenty-one [10,821] years in the past according to your illusion. This created an earth-changing configuration and the large part of Atlantis was no more, having been inundated. Three of the positively oriented of the Atlantean groups left this geographical locus before that devastation, placing themselves in the mountain areas of what you call Tibet, what you call Peru, and what you call Turkey.
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