A major new interview with a Project Avalon Whistleblower (Questions for GoodETxSG)

[778 neighbour of some guy]

Better to consider agendas

Yep, it is, and there always are agendas, not uncommon at all, I have not met a single person who did not have at least one.

[SieS]

Interesting topic, Thank you Bill, Christine and anonymous for this Excellent interview.

For me, most of it feels correct and resonates within, I listened to it a few times.
I am pleased that this information becomes public knowledge now.
We probably have to realise however that time and timelines are fake, they are part of the implanted trickery from other dimensions. (It is all done with mirrors)
Still important to follow our gut feelings.

SieS

[Bill Ryan]

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I believe, from memory (and we don't have a transcript, so even if I've recalled this accurately, it's going to be my paraphrase) — our friend pointed out in the conversation that if he's been told something by someone else, its truth depends on where THEY got the information from.

As Richard Hoagland famously said, "The lie is different at every level".

I'm satisfied our friend believes everything he's recounting... and he gives caveats, several times, clearly and honestly, that his recall may have been messed with. It's very common among people with these kinds of experiences.

So any question about whether this is 'disinformation' or not is (in my view, and excuse the French) — pretty dumb.

That's WAY over-simplistic. Like the intel agencies do themselves, you have to rate the source, and then rate the information. And it all needs to be cross-referenced against other sources. We in the alternative media have NEVER learned to do this intelligently.

Like this: (from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelli...on_reliability)




We're all putting together a giant jigsaw... and we have no picture to match everything to. That's the problem.

Sometimes a piece fits perfectly. Sometimes it's the right piece, in the wrong place. Sometimes it's a piece from a different puzzle. Sometimes it's a bit of cardboard which is not a piece at all.

Another analogy is that of putting together millions of pixels to make a high-resolution image. You can see the image, sometimes, when it's not yet fully formed and the pixels are not yet all in place. A pin-sharp image is what we want, but we're nowhere close to that yet.

But every pixel helps.

What's this? Any ideas?
And if you think you know, HOW do you know?

[crosby]

that would be a pic of you, sir Bill. lol. i have to say that yes, i agree, we have to wait for more of the bigger picture to produce itself, or present itself, so that we can see what we are looking at.
warmest,
crosby

[RunningDeer]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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I believe, from memory (and we don't have a transcript, so even if I've recalled this accurately, it's going to be my paraphrase) — our friend pointed out in the conversation that if he's been told something by someone else, its truth depends on where THEY got the information from.

As Richard Hoagland famously said, "The lie is different at every level".

I'm satisfied our friend believes everything he's recounting... and he gives caveats, several times, clearly and honestly, that his recall may have been messed with. It's very common among people with these kinds of experiences.

So any question about whether this is 'disinformation' or not is (in my view, and excuse the French) — pretty dumb.

That's WAY over-simplistic. Like the intel agencies do themselves, you have to rate the source, and then rate the information. And it all needs to be cross-referenced against other sources. We in the alternative media have NEVER learned to do this intelligently.

We're all putting together a giant jigsaw... and we have no picture to match everything to. That's the problem.

Sometimes a piece fits perfectly. Sometimes it's the right piece, in the wrong place. Sometimes it's a piece from a different puzzle. Sometimes it's a bit of cardboard which is not a piece at all.

Another analogy is that of putting together millions of pixels to make a high-resolution image. You can see the image, sometimes, when it's not yet fully formed and the pixels are not yet all in place. A pin-sharp image is what we want, but we're nowhere close to that yet.

But every pixel helps.

What's this? Any ideas?
And if you think you know, HOW do you know?

Great post!
And....
What's this? Any ideas?
And if you think you know, HOW do you know?


HOW do you know? My guestmation ...

1. pull the picture you provided to your desktop. See it?
2. and by the title of your photo called "pixelated_blur".

Paula <3

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by crosby (here)

that would be a pic of you, sir Bill. lol.

Reminds me of a story about Picasso. He was traveling on a train, and a fellow passenger showed him a photo from his wallet. "That's my wife", the man said.

Picasso replied: "Isn't she rather small and flat?"

[Sebastion]

Thanks Bill for posting the Jake Simpson pdf. as I had not read that before. I support what the Avalon member is saying in the interview. Methinks he is authentic in what he has to say and should be listened to and supported. He is straight forward and presents himself well. His information supports what others have had to say and adds to it. Thanks to him, I now have a bigger picture to look at and I appreciate that very much.

[Fellow Aspirant]

Posted by Operator (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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Just on record here: I was contacted by our friend overnight to clarify that the Trojan Horse AI was NOT a good thing.

This was not fully evident (at least, to me) in the interview... just that the black ops/ intel/ Breakaway Civilization guys were themselves very anxious about it.

Clearly, this is one of the many important follow-up topics to enlarge on and explore. Please do continue to table all your own questions here.

Although I did understand that I am now wondering in which way it is a bad thing ...

1. Bad to humanity in general or
2. wrench in the wheel of keeping their operations covered up ?
3. or perhaps even another reason ...

Well, let's see. The situation portrayed in 'The Matrix' comes to mind ...

B.

[SilverPhoenix]

I also am a new member,

I have never been apart of any Forum before and will have to learn how this works.

My Husband has been a member for quite some time AND as it so happens is the "Anonymous Member" who is in the recording that everyone is commenting on.

I had the great pleasure of meeting Christine while she was in town and over a month of seeing her every opportunity we could my children and I absolutely grew to love her and think of her as family. My son who you hear in the background in the audio was calling her "Grandma" the last couple of visits we had with her and both of my children ask about her every few days.

During the conversation I knew it was being recorded and tried to keep our 3 year old in the other room but had no idea it was going to be published online and focused on by so many people like this. We have been married nearly 22 years now so I had heard most of this information. Some of the things I heard were in more detail that before and since the recorded discussion he has been keeping a journal that has been even more full of details that he didn't give in the discussion with Christine.

This was his first conversation with anyone other than myself or people he served with about these topics and he was very nervous as well as not quite knowing how much he was going to share until the very moment he shared it. I remember after I dropped Christine off where she was staying he was sitting quietly. I asked him what was wrong and he said he didn't expect to share quite so much. I understood because Christine became such a trusted part of our family that I found myself talking to her about things that I wouldn't normally say to a person I had known for a few weeks. She is that lovable

My Husband had also just had Reconstructive Surgery on His Rotator Cuff and Bicep Tendons on September the 19th. He was in a considerable amount of Pain and Discomfort when he had this conversation with Christine on September 27th.

I have been reading through the comments. He had warned me it was kind of messy and for me not to take anything personally. He also said, and now I see there are a lot of Questions and he said that some of the concepts he had Spoken about and Commented on Else Where had not quite been represented in the manner he had hoped. He said it is to be somewhat expected when coming at some of these topics while Anonymous. After his recovery from Physical Therapy and he goes back to work in the High Technology Field he does not want to have the "Stigma" of this topic follow him. There are also some Security concerns but since his postings and release of the interview the different types of attacks and physical and electronic surveillance has picked up. His point is there is more than one reason to remain anonymous.

My interests are in Holistic Medicine and other topics however he has asked me to post a comment here and see if he can get some Direct Questions asked and I can Present Them and the Answers Here if that is something that will work.

Please take it easy on me as I am new to Avalon and this is His material. I will be spending most of my time and energy on my interests. As I said I am learning how this Forum works and am new to forums in general. He assisted me in making this post which is only my second post since I opened this account today.

Now I have a funny feeling in the pit of my stomach,
Thanks Honey!

[Fellow Aspirant]

Re: the Reliability Charts

I really like that the Source and Information are given separate rankings. One cannot expect a truly reliable "Source" to always be in possession of reliable "Information", and conversely, agents of disinformation use truth to set their audiences up for the "hook" buried in the bait.

So, question to the Forum: would it be a worthwhile (doable, even) undertaking to compile a list of 'sources' we have encountered and then, as a group, vote for our personal take on the reliability of each?

I don't mean a thread with 'comments' and arguments one way or the other. That would be way too cumbersome. I have in mind something much more brief, like the chart above.

In the end, would we be able to construct useful 'profiles' of the top ten whistleblowers, online 'Truthers' or online sites that at least give us some guidance inside the 'fog'; a continuum of truth produced by our collective consciousnesses?

Or is the rabbit hole just too dark and labyrinthine?

This latest 'source', for example, I would place at the top of my list of "reliable" claimants.

It would be a start!

Brian

[Spiral of Light]

Welcome to Avalon, SilverPhoenix. We are so happy to have you here.

Many thanks to you for coming forward to assist your husband in answering some of the questions that have been presented.

You have my admiration for the courage and commitment to the truth that you are both showing.

[RunningDeer]

Posted by SilverPhoenix (here)
I also am a new member,

I have never been apart of any Forum before and will have to learn how this works.

Welcome to Avalon, SilverPhoenix. Much appreciation to You, Hubby, and a to the Little Cutie in the background.

Paula <3

[onawah]

Welcome, Silver Phoenix, and thanks to you and your husband for your courage and willingness to engage with us here on Avalon in such an intimate way.
To Bill and the Mods: I have listened to part of the interview and read most of the comments, and I am certainly intrigued, but I am hoping there will be a transcript before too long, because my computer and speakers are not the best and it is very difficult to make out what is being said in the interview.
With information this important, it's really helpful to have a transcript so that nothing gets lost or misinterpreted in the translation, in any case.
I hope someone has stepped up to take on the transcribing task.
Thanks to all!

[David Ansible]

Having had personal experience with the "negative radionics" of which you speak, I *know* that part of it
is absolutely real - putting one to sleep and, so much more.

Some of us have AI, or what we take to be AI (I guess it could be something else, but seems unlikely), interfaced
with our consciousness such that we can interact with it in various ways (as well as it imposing upon us in various ways).
Just the way it is.

I think it's under the control of humans but for what purpose I do not know. In my case, it all started with "real world" events
in my life, including theft of little things from my apartment (some of which were returned days later), as well as street
theater and stuff like that.

The "AI" didn't fully show up until after the other stuff had pretty much run its course. One day a technology was imposed whereby
I felt surrounded by my own personal "magnetic field."

"It" started turning my head, blinking my eyes and moving my eye balls, walking me, stuff like that. Would nod my head yes in
response to questions (or shake my head "no"). Fun stuff (it was relatively horrible actually).

Anyway, while I still maintain healthy skepticism about things I hear, because I now know some "crazy" things are actually true, my
reality has expanded such that many more things seem possible, even plausible at times.

Jake Simpson resonates with me. I am fully aware of that induced "dopiness," and so much more. Of course this doesn't mean that we
experienced the same "entity," only that (perhaps) the tech is similar. Even that is open to question though - more than one tech might
produce similar effects.

Well, it hardly needs saying, but reality is far stranger than most people can begin to believe. There was a time when I would have
been completely incredulous about information such as found in the Jake Simpson interview as well as in this "whistleblower's" interview.

Actually I never would have come close to even encountering such information. But, obviously, those days are long gone!

So that's that. I am rather impressed by those who haven't encountered weirdness on the level of what I or some other people have experienced,
and yet are still able to comprehend that worlds exist beyond the consensus reality in which we all live.

[Sidney]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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I believe, from memory (and we don't have a transcript, so even if I've recalled this accurately, it's going to be my paraphrase) — our friend pointed out in the conversation that if he's been told something by someone else, its truth depends on where THEY got the information from.

As Richard Hoagland famously said, "The lie is different at every level".

I'm satisfied our friend believes everything he's recounting... and he gives caveats, several times, clearly and honestly, that his recall may have been messed with. It's very common among people with these kinds of experiences.

So any question about whether this is 'disinformation' or not is (in my view, and excuse the French) — pretty dumb.

That's WAY over-simplistic. Like the intel agencies do themselves, you have to rate the source, and then rate the information. And it all needs to be cross-referenced against other sources. We in the alternative media have NEVER learned to do this intelligently.

Like this: (from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelli...on_reliability)




We're all putting together a giant jigsaw... and we have no picture to match everything to. That's the problem.

Sometimes a piece fits perfectly. Sometimes it's the right piece, in the wrong place. Sometimes it's a piece from a different puzzle. Sometimes it's a bit of cardboard which is not a piece at all.

Another analogy is that of putting together millions of pixels to make a high-resolution image. You can see the image, sometimes, when it's not yet fully formed and the pixels are not yet all in place. A pin-sharp image is what we want, but we're nowhere close to that yet.

But every pixel helps.

What's this? Any ideas?
And if you think you know, HOW do you know?

I think thats my cat wearing her favorite sweater. Tan head, and colors match. HaHa ok is this a trick question? lol

[Hervé]

Posted by David Ansible (here)
Having had personal experience with the "negative radionics" of which you speak, I *know* that part of it
is absolutely real - putting one to sleep and, so much more.

[...]

Have a look at this thread (<---) too...

[Fellow Aspirant]

Hi SilverPhoenix!

Thanks so much for joining us "in person", so to speak. Your courageous husband's contributions to our understanding of reality have had a tremendous, positive impact on a huge number of people already, and it's only been 24 hours! I hope that the lives of you and your family are not too distracted by the attention that you are receiving. Know that our community of awake and aware humans is deeply grateful for your help, and that we are going to support you all in any way we can. We anticipate your further "sharing" with great excitement and open hearts.

Namaste

Brian

P.S. I really like your use of red type!

[Fellow Aspirant]

What's this? Any ideas?
And if you think you know, HOW do you know?

Interestingly, it becomes quite easy to 'discern' the subject as one quickly scrolls down the page. So maybe that's the point: don't linger over the details, just keep moving to get the overall picture?

Brian

[Redstar Kachina]

Welcome SP - sometimes it's hard to follow particular posts, but when a thread is taken as a whole, it can be rather informative. Arguments are arise are typically a result of differing opinions on how to address a particular issue...sometimes they devolve into eye poking, but usually it's all above board.

Lots of us have all sorts of oddball experiences, many of which are ongoing...planet Earth experience in a nutshell.

[OnyxKnight]

Posted by Omniverse (here)
It is my belief that AIs always have masters. That is where I differ from the nameless whistleblower, I think it is not a sovereign AI doing this, but ET races with those AIs.

The Ashtar Collective (if this is what Anonymous was talking about when referring to an alien A.I. system trojan horsing in our midst) is pretty much self-governed. No backside, power handlers. Totally autonomous.

On the other hand, I do agree that there might be a case where this A.I. he talks about, is created, maintained, and operated by biological minds who made it. When he talked about the greenish-olive skinned people my immediate thought was "this sounds like the Kondrashkin" (some may have heard of them, some may have not, but they have a history in involvement in black ops projects, technology trade agreements, abductions, even the infamous Men in Black sightings/encounters).

They are the leaders of the K-Group branch of the Sivourda network. Some people call them the Ursa Major Conglomerate, be that the star systems they control are largely found in the direction of that constellation, and composed of members from the Ursa Major Moving Group of stars that share common motion in space. The reason the term 'network' is used is because they have developed an A.I. system (Sivourda) which maintains stable artificial wormholes between the populated star systems of that stellar kinematics group and uses the stars in a certain way that mimics the way we use neurons in the brain, basically making it some sort of super-organism. I'm not sure how they keep it in check because my contacts don't know either. But they do. They've used the same network to open a branch here in our region of space as well.

The only difference of the Kondrashkin to the exact description Anonymous gave in the interview is that they don't have any bodyhair, while he seems to mention they had black hair.

Something said in the video I feel the person talking in the video may not realize. TPTB monitor people's minds directly these days. So they would know who gave him information.

Also I'm having trouble with one thing he said. He said he was there witnessing ETs(the olive skinned ones) to see any deception… The US government can monitor the mind's of these ETs. They have such capability. So why not use that instead?

Not really. I disagree. We do have advanced technology, but its not that advanced. We can track humans easily, but not aliens. They always have better toys, even when we steal from them.

This is why so many of the secret governments fund agencies that deal with the alien factor. Especially those who can either mimic our appearance, or practically look identical to us in normal form. They form special divisions of "alien hunters" to hunt them down. Why do this if you have cheaper and more sophisticated means of tracking them down and even peak inside their heads?