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    Blessings to all...

    We do spend a lot of time discussing the mechanisms of manipulation, how we are controlled, injustice, the deep state, upcoming collapses and changes.

    We also try to be positive and look for information that will awaken people, facilitate positive change. Can we reform our societies and manifest positive change?

    What I am curious about is what are we ultimately aiming for - as a human society on Earth?

    - What social organisation, if any
    - What technology
    - What economic model
    - What living model
    - What spiritual model

    There are great writers, and thinkers. Part of the work of progressing is facilitating progress and awakening, and getting into the 'HOW' to get there.

    One of the most important 'HOW's' is visualisation. Not thinking about what needs deconstruction, reform, or how to create. But what do we wish to END UP WITH? If we can visualise that destination clearly we are empowered to create it. Visualising it is very important.

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    I am inspired by Methernitha, a community that is self -sufficient, generates 'free energy' and sells its own products to the outside world.

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    I am inspired by words that I recently came across :

    ' Universal mind is increasingly impinging or intervening into this reality'

    New feelings are birthing in people. I feel a pull to the land. To live in greater harmony with nature. To source what I physically need, from my local environment. To live in a community where most or all human needs are met by the local community. it is a micro-economy. I do not believe it needs to be a left-right or libertarian versus communal thing. The community can organise itself according to what it wishes.

    This pull to the land is being driven at the top level by universal mind that is calling for the formation of centres. These I think will be beacons, spiritually, economically, intellectually, technologically. They will be demonstrators for the new paradigm.

    Recently Inelia Benz has succeeded in securing her piece of land. She is setting up her global ascension center.

    The places required are natural - unsullied, wild pieces of land. Once set up, energetic processes take place to 'consecrate' the land so it can perform its role of anchoring the new thinking & feeling.

    I am involved in a group that is working towards this. Some of our visioning has included what looks like a re-creation of an Atlantian Temple, complete with central Pyramid. Well, small steps. Initial buildings we expect to do will be made naturally, using locally sourced materials...
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    THE TREE BOG.

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    We are building this. The landowner is bringing in WOOFERS

    They will need facilities.

    There is a seasoned wood worker living there, but not involved in this project. He sized us up correctly as soft fleshed city slickers who were only learners with their tools. Ha Ha. He asked us why were we doing this. I said - because we are drawn to do it. But we are by no means experts in this stuff.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tree_bog

    addendum- everything in the picture is recycled.
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    In UK, we have the draw-backs of high population density & restrictive planning legislation. However the Welsh Government is beginning to take a different attitude. they are running a Sustainable Management Scheme, that is facilitating the formation of new eco-communities.

    There are a set of provisos in terms of bringing the land into productive use, living off it to a degree, and new building is allowed with fewer restrictions if it is done ecologically. Well done to Wales. It will bring new people and economic activity to the area.

    The trail blazers for this movement are the Lammas Community , who waded through vast amounts of paper work over many years to produce their community. Having achieved that, they paved the way for others, and it became easier to do...

    Overall, we have a lot to thank the Welsh Government for!



    http://gov.wales/newsroom/environmen...nched/?lang=en

    Quote New programme to support local renewable energy schemes launched

    This press release was published under the 2011 - 2016 Welsh government
    A new service to help social enterprises and SMEs across Wales to develop their own renewable energy schemes will be launched by Natural Resources Minister Carl Sargeant today.
    Thursday 28 January 2016
    TAGS
    Environment and countryside28 January 2016EconomyEnergyRenewable energy
    The Welsh Government Local Energy Programme will support small and medium scale renewable energy projects and will be delivered by the Energy Saving Trust (EST), working in partnership with Ricardo Energy & Environment, Wales Council for Voluntary Action and Pure Leapfrog.
    As well as providing a range of technical advice and support, the team will work with communities and businesses throughout their projects’ lifecycles from assessing financial viability to connecting projects with appropriate lenders in construction finance.
    Carl Sargeant said:
    “Between 2012 and 2014 the total capacity of renewable energy installed in Wales has grown by 84% and I am keen to see local communities and businesses benefit from this transition.
    “Small organisations and communities with renewable energy ambitions often struggle to achieve their goals due to the range of specialist legal, technical and administrative skills required during planning and development.
    “This programme will provide the support needed to help communities identify and overcome gaps in capacity.”
    Duncan McCombie, Director of Operations for the Energy Saving Trust said:
    “The Energy Saving Trust is committed to community energy and supporting local organisations to make best use of the financial and social benefits in their communities. We have a strong track record of supporting locally-based renewable generation schemes and look forward to working with our partners across Wales.
    “We are keen to reach community groups and businesses who would like to understand the opportunities that energy generation may bring, and will continue to support groups across Wales to successfully complete their viable schemes.
    “In the context of a challenging policy landscape across the UK, the Welsh Government’s commitment to community energy will help Wales lead the way.”
    The Minister launched the new programme on a visit to the Taff Bargoed Project – an example of the type of project that the new service will support.
    The Friends of Taff Bargoed project is a wholly community owned 100kw hydro scheme in an area of social deprivation. The scheme is nearing completion and has received Welsh Government support of start-up grants, development officer support and project management resource.

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    The following are from the Lammas Community Gallery - many thanks.

    Construction is required to be low-impact. Basically, you will not expect power, gas, or water to be run into the land from the grid.

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    I love the following sequence on building a round house...

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    I am inspired by the potential for HEMP as a crop. Rebekah Shaman an is a brilliant advocate, among other things...



    Quote The terms hemp and cannabis (frequently referred to as “marijuana”) are often used interchangeably, creating a confusion and adding to the misinformation about this powerful and important plant medicine.
    Cannabis (or marijuana) is used when describing a Cannabis Sativa plant that is bred for its potent, resinous glands (known as trichomes). These trichomes contain high amounts of tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), the cannabinoid most known for its psychoactive properties.
    Hemp, on the other hand, is used to describe a Cannabis Sativa plant that contains only trace amounts of THC (0.2%). Hemp is a high-growing plant, typically bred for industrial uses such as oils and topical ointments, as well as fibre for clothing, construction, and much more.
    Here is some amazing facts about this wonder crop that can replace fossil fuels, bio-remediate soil, provide nutritious food, build houses, make cars, remove land toxins, and suck up huge amounts of co2, locking it into the product.

    Hemp as a super crop

    Hemp can be considered a ‘super-crop’ that has been grown worldwide for at least 12,000 years. It is one of the most prolific, versatile and powerful bio-tools available to humanity to meet the enormous challenges of sustainability, climate change, environmental degradation and the destruction of eco-systems.
    There are more than 25,000 known uses for hemp. It produces food, fibre, fuel and has unique medicinal properties. One hectare of hemp can produce as much usable fibre as four hectares of trees, or two hectares of cotton. It is the world’s most versatile natural product, potentially replacing wood, cotton, and petroleum products, including plastics.
    Hemp grows in a short, flexible, summer wind of the annual crop cycle and grows in diverse climates and soil types. It does not require pesticides or herbicides, as it grows tightly spaced, out-growing and blocking out weeds. This leaves a weed-free field for follow on crops while simultaneously conditioning and securing topsoil.
    It was considered the ‘billion dollar crop’ by Popular Mechanics Magazine in 1937 before the USA began its campaign to suppress the hemp industry. George Washington and Thomas Jefferson both grew hemp. Ben Franklin owned a mill that made hemp paper. Thomas Jefferson drafted the Declaration of Independence on hemp paper. In 1942 when US sources of “Manila hemp,” (a genus of the banana plant), were cut off by the Japanese in WWII, the US Army and US Department of Agriculture promoted the “Hemp for Victory” campaign to grow hemp in the US.

    Hemp as Bio-Fuel

    According to the IPCC between ten and fifteen percent of total global cropland is available for biomass production specifically for energy and transport. The greatest advantage of hemp cultivation, as a method of climate change mitigation, is the comparative ease with which it could be integrated into the existing fossil fuel economy.
    With the ability to be grown at all but the very coldest latitudes, hemp could form the basis of an internationally distributed yet locally produced fuel industry. Hemp-based ethanol would not only be a complementary product to the oil economy (combining ethanol with gasoline increases quality of gasoline and produces significant environmental benefits), but could also be used as a direct replacement because it can be used with existing technologies. It is also the only biomass crop that can add to the food production of land rather than replacing food production, as other biofuel crops, such as corn, triggered global food riots.

    Hemp a Climate Change Crop

    Hemp cultivation is 400% more efficient at CO2 absorption than agro-forestry per land use. Its rapid growth rate means it can provide the industrial quantities of biomass required in our modern society. Hemp can be processed into multiple sustainable raw materials solutions to suit the needs of local communities wherever it is grown, and save and preserve remaining forest resources and biodiversity. Hemp is far less vulnerable to changes in climate, compared to slow and medium growth forests. It also shares many of the biochemical characteristics of hardwood and several metric tons of wood can be produced in a hectare, annually or bi-annually in hotter climates.
    Growing hemp on deforested hillsides prevents landslides, run-off, and also prepares land for future crops or tree planting. In addition, it requires low-intensive management and can effectively replace all the goods and services traditionally supplied by depleted forest resources including fuel and shelter. An industrial hemp crop (80ha), planted in Nicaragua primarily for seed, survived Hurricane Mitch more or less intact due to its long tap roots and intricate root structures that held the plants securely to each other and the land. Over 60 chemicals called cannabinoids collectively serve to repel insects, improve water use efficiency, prevent water loss and also protect the plant from excessive UV-B radiation.
    Compared to cotton that requires about 1400 gallons of water for every pound of produce, hemp requires half that or even less and produces 200-250% more fibre on the same amount of land. The Aral Sea in Russia, once the world’s fourth largest inland lake with a thriving healthy ecosystem is now only 15% of it’s original size due to the cotton industry and the heavy use of pesticides and herbicides. Hemp in comparison, aerates the land, rejuvenates soil, needs no herbicides or pesticides, and creates a thriving ecosystem.
    Hemp is so versatile because, it is seasonal, it increases the nutritional output of the land, it increases yields from other crops in the rotation cycle, and bio-remediates and protects soil, while providing highly useful, versatile biomass and sustainable, biodegradable end products.

    HEMP AS FOOD

    Hemp protein contains all twenty-one known amino acids, including the eight essential ones adult bodies cannot produce. Proteins are considered complete when they contain all the essential amino acids in sufficient quantities and ratios to meet the body’s needs.
    It can supply any diet with a vegetarian source of essential fatty acids, antioxidants, vitamins, minerals, fibre, chlorophyll, and a complete, balanced gluten-free source of the essential amino acids.
    The Cannabis plant has been suppressed by the dominating industries that see it as a threat to their monopoly, such steel, pharmaceuticals, cotton, petroleum, plastics and construction. However, it can no longer be ignored as the global environmental crisis we are facing is much greater than the need to profit these unsustainable and destructive industries.
    How much longer are we going to sit back and watch our planet go up in smoke while one of the major solutions, Cannabis remains relegated to the sidelines…? it’s time for a Hemp Revolution… who’s with me?!
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    I've started reading Muammar Gaddafi's Green book, interesting concept.

    Methinks there is something in there worth it...

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    Quote Posted by Lovespot (here)
    I've started reading Muammar Gaddafi's Green book, interesting concept.

    Methinks there is something in there worth it...
    I have to agree....

    Quote In 1975, six years after he took power, Qaddafi published the first volume of the Green Book — immodestly titled “The Solution of the Problem of Democracy.” With it, he promised to rescue the world from the failures of Western democracy and Communism alike: his “Third Universal Theory” would usher in an era of mass democracy in which people would rule themselves directly. Qaddafi rails against elections, political parties and popular representation (“The most tyrannical dictatorships the world has known have existed under the shadow of parliaments”). He decries plebiscites as “a fraud against democracy.” The only genuine form of democracy, he argues, is one where the masses come together in people’s committees, popular congresses and professional associations. “The problem of democracy in the world,” he declares, “is completely solved.”
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    The Venus project is more at the tech end of the scale. It is a money-less society, sustainable and based on long standing technology.

    I believe these grand schemes are possible, and the ultimate destination. Smaller stuff is a good start. My vision does not necessarily include a money-less society, but rather a society that does not worship money, where humans do not spend all their energies chasing money, because their basic needs are met with the expenditure of a small part of their time.
    Quote Ulyces: This futuristic city project is perhaps the key to a world without money

    By Camille Hamet
    Born of the imagination of the futurist architect Jacque Fresco, the Venus Project is the promise of an urbanized society from which the money would have disappeared.
    Apple Park’s work is not yet complete, but the 12,000 employees of the famous apple firm are starting to take over their new offices in Cupertino, California. In all, the move is expected to take six months. The last major project of Steve Jobs, the Apple Park is a monument that is distinguished by its circular shape and extends over 260,000 m 2 . Designed by architect Norman Foster , it cost five billion dollars. Its energy supply is mainly ensured by the solar panels installed on its roofs, and 80% of the area is covered with trees and greenery.
    Once completed, Apple Park will evoke a utopian future, which holds much of the circular city imagined by architect Jacque Fresco, who died on May 18 at the age of 101 years. Often called a ” dreamer “, when others called him ” charlatan, ” he claimed that a world without money was possible thanks to the help of technology and science. And he spent his very long life trying to prove it. His work, rewarded by the United Nations in July 2016, attracted different personalities.

    The Venus Project
    The borders have been abolished. The monetary system too. As a result, poverty and violence no longer exist. Laws are no longer necessary. Human beings, who are no longer obliged to work to satisfy their primary needs, devote their energy and creativity to study, art, and innovation. They live again in harmony with nature. But they have quality habitats, efficient means of transport, education and medical care of very high level. Here is the world that Jacque Fresco wanted.

    The founder of the American Transhumanist Party Zoltan Istvan met him at his research and experimental center in Florida in October 2016. It was named Venus Project in reference to the nearby town of Venus and was built at The end of the 1970s. Accessed by a cracked and deserted road. A white barrier then opens onto a park of eight hectares. Planted with tropical trees, it houses raccoons, crocodiles, and small half-spherical constructions. Inside, the work of Jacque Fresco is exposed.
    ” I have seen remarkable architectural drawings and models of futuristic cities ,” says Zoltan Istvan. ” I instantly became one of his fans. Jacque was a very, very good person. One can not say many humans that they are basically good people, but Jacque was one of them. He really wanted what was best for humanity. ”

    And there is nothing better for humanity than a “resource- based economy “. Developed throughout its conferences, seminars, articles and books, this model is the keystone of Jacque Fresco’s philosophy. It is based on the idea that if we do not have enough money to feed, house, care for and educate everyone, we have enough resources. And advocates the distribution of these resources in an efficient and equitable way without going through money, barter, credit or labor. In this system, which can be compared to that of a public library, all goods and services are accessible to all, free of charge. What makes the concept of property obsolete, and at the same time eradicates the notion of theft.

    Such a system is only possible if resources are produced in abundance. And this is where science and technology, according to Jacque Fresco, must come into action. ” If we used our technology to produce abundance, the assets would become too cheap to be monetized, ” says colleague Roxanne Meadows . ” There is no price for things that are abundant. For example, air is a necessity but we do not regulate or monetize the amount of air breathed. The air is abundant. If the apple trees were growing in abundance, we could not sell apples. “But this air and apples must also be of good quality, hence the importance of preserving our environment by developing clean energies.

    Only then will humanity be able to overcome the problems it faces today – global warming, pollution, famine, disease, wars and territorial disputes. ” There are no ethnic, religious or gender problems, there are only human problems, ” said Jacque Fresco, who logically advocated for nations to dissolve and for people to move freely through the world. ” If you want the end of the war, you must proclaim that the Earth is a common heritage ,” he insists in Roxanne Meadows’ documentary Paradise and Oblivion .
    For entrepreneur Jonathan Kolber, his system is interesting but he forgets how to move from capitalism to the resource-based economy. ” Capitalism is continuing by automating more and more jobs on which consumption depends. There is no way to stop or even slow down this process , “he said . For his part, Zoltan Istvan believes that ” the resource-based economy is a romantic idea, and it would take several decades to try to implement it .” ” Moreover ” , he said, ” the economy based on resources involves more robotics and automation that we have now.

    Born in Brooklyn in 1916, Jacque Fresco has always been interested in what the future holds for us. He began drawing at the age of eight. And finds a source of inspiration in the science fiction film Metropolis . ” It portrayed the future as a highly regulated system, which is totally unacceptable, but architecture was interesting, as was robotics, ” he explains in the documentary of US director William Gazecki, Future by Design . The little boy imagines underwater homes, runways on the roof of post offices, ships and planes. Having become an extremely brilliant schoolboy, he shows his drawings to an engineer who, impressed,
    At about the same time, Jacque Fresco accidentally fell on Albert Einstein at the exit of a New York cinema. He begs him to give him an interview, and the eminent mathematician agrees to receive him at Princeton University. Asked about his vision of economic and social organization, he takes a little water and tries a microscope to the teenager to observe the merciless struggle that the various organizations that compose it. ” That’s how nature works, ” says Albert Einstein. ” And it is also in this way that a society works. Jacque Fresco then has the guts to express his deep disagreement.

    He himself was traumatized by the economic crisis of 1929. ” From one day to the next, he found himself surrounded by misery and suffering, ” says William Gazecki. ” People’s resources, infrastructure and skills were the same. And yet, they had lost everything and their suffering was unbearable for Jacque Fresco. “Henceforth, convinced that capitalism is absurd, seeks an alternative to communism and socialism before estimating that the systems advocated by these ideologies would not be more effective.
    Jacque Fresco stops the school very young and leaves to travel around the world. He is amazed by the diversity of cultures, customs and values - and convinces himself that human beings are shaped by their social environment. ” Imagine a family from ancient Rome taking their children to see Christians given to the lions for food, and the children say,” Dad, will we be able to come back and see the Christians get eaten by the lions next week? ” Are children sick? No ! It is their system of values that is distorted. So I’m only interested in the environment in which people are raised. If this environment is inadequate, their behavior will be too. ”

    Back in his country, Jacque Fresco works for the airline company Douglas Aircraft Company. And when the base of Pearl Harbor was attacked, on December 7, 1941, he joined the Air Force. The Second World War left the United States with overcapacity in production and housing. Fresco therefore designs a house entirely made of glass and aluminum, which can be built quickly and at low cost. Ten men could erect its structure in just eight hours. Known as Trend Home, it is made in mass and provides some professional recognition to Jacque Fresco.
    But his ambitions as an architect are obviously not limited to housing. It was in the 1970s that he conceived an entire city and presented it on radio and television. At the same time, he founded a small association, Sociocyberneering Inc., and met Roxanne Meadows. Together they seek to acquire land in Florida to build a futuristic research center and eventually settle on a tomato plantation next to Venus.

    The circular city

    The circular city imagined and modeled by Jacque Fresco is organized around a powerful computer in charge of controlling the quality of water and air, maintaining safety and environmental balance. This computer is located under a huge dome containing all the goods and services that the inhabitants can use for free: food, medical equipment, care, education. And the circular shape was not chosen at random. According to Fresco, which relied on its numerous architectural models to demonstrate it, it brings each quarter closer to the central dome.

    The stated objective of the Venus Project is to make these models a reality in order to prove to the world that the resource-based economy so dear to Jacque Fresco is not a utopia, at least on a city scale . As for the research and experimentation center itself, it is supposed to represent the surroundings of the ideal city of Fresco, while showing that technology and nature can harmoniously coexist. Surrounded by tropical trees and wild animals, the buildings dotting the park are not visible, for example, from one to the other. The Venus Project has also allowed Jacque Fresco to develop other urban models, including aquatic cities, that would reduce population pressure on land and promote ocean conservation by promoting their study.
    ” The idea of an experimental city is realistic ,” says Zoltan Istvan. ” Knowing if the whole world would embrace the theory of the resource-based economy is something else, but an experimental city could lead the way and partly answer that question. However, this single undertaking requires considerable financial investment and a call for donations has been launched. Hence the importance, for Jacque Fresco and Roxanne Meadows, of making their work known through documentary films. That of Meadows, Paradise or Oblivion , has been viewed almost 2.5 million times on YouTube.

    The call for donations has been a source of criticism. Asking for money to lay the foundations of a world without money can indeed seem incoherent. But for William Gazecki, Jacque Fresco can not be accused of fraud: ” He was not interested in either power or material possessions, and he led a very simple life. So he and Roxanne Meadows would have simply been pragmatic. They have for a long time financed their research by making models for architectural firms, or for medical equipment firms. And the most curious must pay the sum of 200 dollars to be able to visit the center of Venus, which is directed by Meadows since the death of Fresco. Aged 67,


    ” As a co-founder of the Venus Project, I will devote more of my time and energy to the task, as Jacque and I have always planned, ” she wrote in a letter published on the Center’s website . ” Many others want to help me reap the rewards of our work and that is exactly what a very dedicated group of people does. The Venus Project will pursue our goals and proposals, and as Jacque and I always say: “If you want a better world you have to work on it. If you do nothing, nothing will change. “ ”
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    I love this thread. Thank you. Here is an article by Jacque, and it has some good images of his concepts.

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    Where I live you can't sneeze without getting a permit. And as far as new-builds go, environmental protections are so strong, it is really hard to get anything done. Part of it has to do with "a lack of water". I put that in quotations because the water issue is based on projections which assume there will be multi-year droughts. This is a projection based on an assumption.

    So all of these smug environmentalists, more concerned about squirrels than people have created a horrendous housing shortage. People are sleeping and cooking in the woods, under tinder dry trees while they try to avoid authorities...because, they need a place to live and eat!

    And what could be more of a threat to the environment than the whole area being burnt to a crisp in a forest fire? But noooooo...enviro boomers would rather take their chances on that while depriving millenials of proper housing.

    Thanks! Rant off. Good luck with all of your efforts. I am hunkering down preparing for a class war.

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    Quote Posted by AutumnW (here)
    Where I live you can't sneeze without getting a permit. And as far as new-builds go, environmental protections are so strong, it is really hard to get anything done. Part of it has to do with "a lack of water". I put that in quotations because the water issue is based on projections which assume there will be multi-year droughts. This is a projection based on an assumption.

    So all of these smug environmentalists, more concerned about squirrels than people have created a horrendous housing shortage. People are sleeping and cooking in the woods, under tinder dry trees while they try to avoid authorities...because, they need a place to live and eat!

    And what could be more of a threat to the environment than the whole area being burnt to a crisp in a forest fire? But noooooo...enviro boomers would rather take their chances on that while depriving millenials of proper housing.

    Thanks! Rant off. Good luck with all of your efforts. I am hunkering down preparing for a class war.
    Yes- I hear you.
    Mostly the restrictions are absolute. The Society I envisage would probably not use money. Any kind of barter based or micro economy is a threat to the current order. In general it is prevented. If pockets of new paradigm living can be established, it moves things along greatly.

    The example is there to inspire all who see. In the case of the Lammas community, they had to struggle for YEARS to get a modus operandi, and that was working with a local Government authority who are sympathetic to this, because population is low and there is a lot of under used land. The hard work that that community did has paved the way for others.

    My point is that yes- there are blocks - and TPTB resist innovation. And there is also strategy to move forward. But spiritually, one of the most powerful steps is to visualise where one wants to get to. Even if it's not in this lifetime.

    I really hope to see one of the Venus project communities being established.
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    We really need leaders that are community minded, and have long since left war, power, greed ego, riches , etc ... No matter what steps are taken to better life for all, these maniacs Na ( political leaders) will show up with their rules, restrictions, fees, and control agenda ... rooting out the monsters must be first , then the sky is the limit, there are no boundaries to what mankind can achieve through hard work, and positive thinking. ..
    Raiding the Matrix One Mind at a Time ...

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    this is a lot of information.
    here are my ideas

    Politics: short term - campaign finance reform/get money out of politics
    Future solution: no hierarchies, psychic consensus>access collective insights without pretense

    Economics/Employment: short term - credit unions instead of central banks
    Future solution: free energy/matter replication>earnings only for unnecessary luxuries & employment based on the intersection of personal strengths & passion. An industry driven by passion/strength drives innovation and answers the problem of stagnation in the absence of financial incentive (early attempts at socialism didn't have the resources to achieve this, no internet to be exposed to different options, no telework, no occupational transition mobility, none of the modern studies in employment fulfillment or workplace culture)

    Foreign Relations: short term - dismantle the military industrial complex & the central banks profiting off war
    Future solution: intergalactic alliances & treaties

    Education: short term - drop SOLs, embrace the Khan Academy model and Minimally Evasive Model. teach the futility of material gain, pleasure, power, praise, safety (fear based at the expense of others).
    Future solution: psychic downloads

    Health Care/Agriculture: short term solution: convert all energy & resources feeding the military industrial complex into free health care (*see longterm employment) and holistic local agriculture
    Future Solution: healing tables

    Energy/Environment: short term solution - release free energy patents & manufacture carbon nanofiber, get off fossil fuels. End the weatherwars and build de-salinization plants
    Future solution: *see economic solution
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    I asked some friends for their visions of the future:


    Thanks, Anthony

    Quote You want a future vision. Here it is.
    One day, I think all the world will live in peace and joy, together in perfect harmony, side by side on Paul and John's piano keyboard, with a small silent, oriental woman in the background.
    But seriously... or should I say, sincerely...
    I'm certain (ha! we've all heard that before...) that by 2030, war and poverty will be something kids read about in history books. They will understand that the most violent of all human endeavours were just a tragic and suicidal expression of unmet needs, and arose out of an unbelievable but historically undeniable fact that hidden in plain view, even as late as the early 21st century, there was an elite cabal of no more than about 8000 people who owned 99.9999999% of the worlds wealth, enslaving the rest of the species to what looked like eternal slavery in a debt system that was due to foreclose on all private and public assets, by the middle of the 21st century. Fortunately for everyone, including the 8000 or so people at the top of the pyramid, a bright mythological lady who sat on her own in a small cafe in Rickmansworth suddenly realised what it was that had been going wrong all this time. She realised how the world could be made a good and happy place. This time it was right... it would work... and no one would have to get nailed to anything anymore (referring to some other mythological chap who got nailed to a tree at the turn of the very first century for saying how great it would be if everyone was nice to each other for a change). Her name was Satoshi Nakamoto, and she suddenly glimpsed the solution to a very old mathematical problem called the Byzantine General's problem. Based on that insight she wrote a white paper in 2008 - https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf - that would lead to an immutable record of truth called a blockchain, which would create a new type of money, as valuable if not more so than gold, which could not be stolen by thieves OR governments who had employed induced ignorance through a mainstream media and poor public education, denying people an adequate understanding of such child-friendly subjects as money, banking, fiscal policy, politics and Law. Governments and their puppet masters would vanish within a decade or two of the publication of this white paper as they would no longer have the centralised mean by which to issue the only currencies in use. This would also lead to other uses for blockchains that would eliminate other vampiric national and international institutions that acted as trusted third parties, enabled by a populace who just couldn't be bothered to think for themselves, and turned to others who claimed authority for opinions, answers and other solutions that were believed to be too intractable for mere ordinary folk to work out. The first two or three decades of the 21st century would become icons of idiocy, as masses believed the dualistic nonsense they were told by media sources, but then the fear induced by the elite run media kept the populace in a state of heightened emotion, which of course meant that their thinking capabilities were severely reduced.
    Well, that was a mish mash of thoughts and ideas about what has been happening in recent years, that will lead to a better weather front in the coming decades... possibly... Was that of use?

    Thank you Ishtar


    Quote I see that in the near future coming we will have self contained homes that are easily assembled with the released suppressed technologies which incorporate a free energy system, water collection, treatment system, waste water and sewage treatment system that creates clean soil nutrients that feeds a hydroponic glass house attached to the house growing healthy vegetables to supplement diets. I would like to mention that I have friends here in NZ who design green homes for sustainable living so much of this is already happening. It will need a moment to setup manufacturing to create the first prototypes and then kit sets could be made and sent around the world with instructions or teams of builders much like prefab housing. We will have replicators that provide for material needs using nano technologies for long and strength wearing materials. Technological system as a Bracelet on arms that create a security body system (field of gravitational repulsion or something like that) that prevents any weapon or physical onslaught on your person, your vehicle and house, a very small police force will be needed. Governmental corruption systems will be ended and Administrators for the people are voted in upon having moral compassion, humanitarian attributes, high integrity and wisdom to sit on the council for the benefit of the people. This new system in place will use technology for people to share creativity and science that will keep giving the general public more to add to for added benefit for the whole world. Compounding with more abundance for the whole. Medicine technologies will be free and centers for healing be accessible to everyone. Each home should house the rainbow light system that helps maintain health.

    The new world administration system will have an electronic voting system/consensus system in place to gauge and understand the general needs, wants and creative input of the people - these administrators must prove a long history of high integrity. No more campaigning rubbish!

    A system of education and work be planned to build and support modules around the world, where people choose what they love to learn/work in, types of industries where rotating jobs are available via an online system of vacancies. All houses and land are owned by occupation, if you want to change location you find someone to swap with online.

    Once people have their survival needs met, they can spend quality time in pursuits of fun and learning. Depression, poverty, crime will become a thing of the past. Even if there were still some people intent on harming another for the purpose of control or slavery, your personal security system makes it nearly impossible. Some people will not want to work - but enjoy a life of fun in pursuits of nature, or education or isolation and this should be allowed as not every soul is the same, some enjoy to create, research science as fun and reward in itself, but some don't, and would be bored sitting at the beach watching the sun set. We no longer behave like a robotic world conforming to a program of the western commercial system of forced living under the tyranny of control systems.
    In this new system some people may surf for 20 years and then choose they want to study marine biology ... while another decides they want to leave working at 40 and surf. The key here is everyone's survival needs are met, and with the robotic technologies coming in we can build this type of world society, easily if we start first healing our fractured minds with the incorrect belief systems that imprison us.

    This type of living can only come about when the individual person heals their soul from a lack of SELF-LOVE, not ego self love, where competition, control and feelings of grandeur operate - but the kind that accepts yourself with all its warts and self judgement, self loathing, self criticism, healthy child like self expression without worry of conforming. This will heal the shadow self of jealousy, envy, greed, anger etc. It is only then that the soul is able to live this type of life joyously rewarded in contributing to others without needing recognition, to be the best above or at the expense of another person, or have a monetary system. No longer living from a scarcity mentality but from abundance for everyone. Advanced Spiritually minded people will see reward as the pleasure of serving each other in unity of sharing, as reward for the joy of the work you like to do that contributed to the whole. Travel to other planets and star systems is where we are headed. We will then be ready to interact with other Galactic races who have already attained such benevolent, advanced and peaceful societies.

    Obviously, the stepping stones from where we are at the moment takes time to get here, but if the mass consciousness contemplates these possibilities, and work on doing the internal work of getting rid of fear - False Evidence Appearing Real, where the soul is healed of these illusory belief systems based on something that happened to you in the past. Learn to live in each new moment, is key with forgiveness, gratitude and compassion -it can manifest far faster, as Co-creators, we hold the key individually. First bubble realties appear, one person has a perfect life their internal self healed, and another person's life circumstances collapses under the weight of limiting victim belief systems that get stuck in a loop of repetition. Becoming aware of our belief systems and then change them to one that honors the self, knowing we are a part of Source Creator infinite intelligence and infinite possibilities.
    As a human race we are on the brink of going from Homo sapiens to becoming homo-luminous - A Light Being

    Thank you Vidya


    Quote The more light workers pull out thoughts and visions together, the more it feeds the facilitation the creation of the world we envisage. One of the things I like to think we are moving towards is zero and compostable/fully-degradable waste. Currently, our blocks as humans are mirrored by our disruption and blockage of earth's cycles by the mass use of hard plastics etc. Also, what I notice with young folk nowadays is that girls and boys have a far better understanding of and empathy for one another and they stand together as opposed to the split male vs female paradigm that has been propagated in recent centuries. This new, interactive compassion of female-male energies for one another has the capacity to strengthen humanity's congruency with nature as we learn to live with one another better. Justin Trudeau, for example, is a young man who doesn't understand war and I feel, thankfully, this is symbolic of the young folk across our planet today.
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    In 1968 the town of Auroville was founded for anyone, from anywhere in the world, to come and live. It promoted a sustainable and non material lifestyle, where property ownership wasn't allowed.

    The Auroville township in South India is now home to 2000 people from all over the world. "I am on the verge of a new perception of life, as if certain parts of the consciousness were mutating from the caterpillar state to the butterfly state..." says Alfassa. The purpose was to realise human unity and it is today recognised as the first and only internationally endorsed experiment that is still ongoing in this field.

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    I have known some people who have been raised in Auroville, not a description of mental stability or strenght, on the contrary.

    At least some of the children were mistreated, and all the vagaries of ordinary human were going on there. And not schooled enough to be able to sustain a decent living here. Certainly as brainwashed as we are.

    I would rather take independent balanced open hearted human beings as an example to follow, each in their own premises.

    Thanks but no thanks.

    that being said, I truly appreciate the teaching of Sri Aurobindo and the Mother. Also some of the experiments in and with the commune. But I do not think it is an idealistic commune. I think that small towns with good governance body would be much more efficient.

    Individuality wich often promotes creativity would be promoted as well as common welfare for all.

    In a large commune, it usually works because if you are not happy, you are shown the door or pressured towards the door (thinking you have decided to go away when in fact there were no alternative). This is not community, this is enslavement to a group, usually.

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    In 1968 the town of Auroville was founded for anyone, from anywhere in the world, to come and live. It promoted a sustainable and non material lifestyle, where property ownership wasn't allowed.

    The Auroville township in South India is now home to 2000 people from all over the world. "I am on the verge of a new perception of life, as if certain parts of the consciousness were mutating from the caterpillar state to the butterfly state..." says Alfassa. The purpose was to realise human unity and it is today recognised as the first and only internationally endorsed experiment that is still ongoing in this field.

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    Quote Posted by Flash (here)
    I have known some people who have been raised in Auroville, not a description of mental stability or strenght, on the contrary.

    At least some of the children were mistreated, and all the vagaries of ordinary human were going on there. And not schooled enough to be able to sustain a decent living here. Certainly as brainwashed as we are.

    I would rather take independent balanced open hearted human beings as an example to follow, each in their own premises.

    Thanks but no thanks.

    that being said, I truly appreciate the teaching of Sri Aurobindo and the Mother. Also some of the experiments in and with the commune. But I do not think it is an idealistic commune. I think that small towns with good governance body would be much more efficient.

    Individuality wich often promotes creativity would be promoted as well as common welfare for all.

    In a large commune, it usually works because if you are not happy, you are shown the door or pressured towards the door (thinking you have decided to go away when in fact there were no alternative). This is not community, this is enslavement to a group, usually.

    Quote Posted by Baby Steps (here)
    In 1968 the town of Auroville was founded for anyone, from anywhere in the world, to come and live. It promoted a sustainable and non material lifestyle, where property ownership wasn't allowed.

    The Auroville township in South India is now home to 2000 people from all over the world. "I am on the verge of a new perception of life, as if certain parts of the consciousness were mutating from the caterpillar state to the butterfly state..." says Alfassa. The purpose was to realise human unity and it is today recognised as the first and only internationally endorsed experiment that is still ongoing in this field.

    Hi,

    Yes I agree with your feelings, speaking personally, a too communistic way would not appeal. It tends to 'level down' rather than up. I think what will happen is that technology will facilitate people sourcing more and more of what they want locally. That is also a choice made by a consumer. So localism can include private enterprise and ownership. It threatens the huge bureaucratic mass tyrannies that are being built over us. Local communities building self reliance leads to local communities gaining more local power. The more self sufficient they are, the freer they are from the institutions that are trying to run our lives.
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    Quote Posted by bbow73 (here)
    this is a lot of information.
    here are my ideas

    Politics: short term - campaign finance reform/get money out of politics
    Future solution: no hierarchies, psychic consensus>access collective insights without pretense

    Economics/Employment: short term - credit unions instead of central banks
    Future solution: free energy/matter replication>earnings only for unnecessary luxuries & employment based on the intersection of personal strengths & passion. An industry driven by passion/strength drives innovation and answers the problem of stagnation in the absence of financial incentive (early attempts at socialism didn't have the resources to achieve this, no internet to be exposed to different options, no telework, no occupational transition mobility, none of the modern studies in employment fulfillment or workplace culture)

    Foreign Relations: short term - dismantle the military industrial complex & the central banks profiting off war
    Future solution: intergalactic alliances & treaties

    Education: short term - drop SOLs, embrace the Khan Academy model and Minimally Evasive Model. teach the futility of material gain, pleasure, power, praise, safety (fear based at the expense of others).
    Future solution: psychic downloads

    Health Care/Agriculture: short term solution: convert all energy & resources feeding the military industrial complex into free health care (*see longterm employment) and holistic local agriculture
    Future Solution: healing tables

    Energy/Environment: short term solution - release free energy patents & manufacture carbon nanofiber, get off fossil fuels. End the weatherwars and build de-salinization plants
    Future solution: *see economic solution
    Nicely put in a nutshell. This is just an idea -- and maybe others have discussed it -- but is it possible that the "oneness" that we are evolving or returning to [depending on if we are truly in a "fallen" state or not] is a collective that has optimized its energetic connections and cooperates for the good of all in every facet of society: education, physical and spiritual health, internal and external relations, etc.?

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