Is The Alien Agenda Hostile Or Not? [Split from "2015-12-25: The Last Christmas"]

[Eric J (Viking)]

[mod-edit: the following discussion originated in "The Last Christmas" thread]

Posted by lucidity (here)
The big news in 2016, hopefully, is that people will begin to realise that the alien agenda is hostile.

be happy

lucidity

In what way?..don't believe it...yes that is the agenda from the PTW...but in reality it is not the case...they want you to think the guys up there are the bad guys...far from truth Lucid...

Viking

[lucidity]

Posted by viking (here)

Posted by lucidity (here)

The big news in 2016, hopefully, is that people will begin to realise that the alien agenda is hostile.

be happy

lucidity

In what way?..don't believe it...yes that is the agenda from the PTW...but in reality it is not the case...they want you to think the guys up there are the bad guys...far from tuth Lucid...

Viking

Hi Viking,

Yes, the alien agenda *is* hostile.
They're not here to help you, or us, or humanity generally.
They don't care about pollution or gaia.... or personal growth
Spirituality means nothing to them.
They're not our brothers, they are predators.

But there's lots of different species of aliens.
Which ones specifically am i referring to ?

The Mantids and all the species they already control:
The little greys, the tall greys, (some variety of) reptilian
and lots of human-alien hybrids.
This is the primary crowd that organise the abductions of humans.

There's evidence that this crowd are carnivores and are feeding
on the blood of cows, sheep, horses and even humans. Did you know
that cases of animal mutilations are characterized by the extraction of
all, or nearly all, of the blood in the animal ?
Gallons and Gallons of blood. Like little vampires.
Animal mutilations and wholesale disappearance of flocks and herds
is an ongoing problem and has been happening since the 1950's.
And this *is* happening regularly to human beings and you're *not* being told:
Think i'm joking ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdJXAGrcN-E

David Jacobs wrote a book last year called "Walking Among Us".
He makes the distinction between hybrids and hubrids.
Hybrids are what you imagine they are: human/alien hybrids... they look a little like us and a little like them.
Hubrids look exactly like us. You simply can't tell them and us apart.
Except, that hubrids have the ability to control humans.
They can make you do X or make you do Y.
They can put images in your mind.
They can tell you to do things telepathically.
They can make you forget things.

The MIB were hybrids. They didn't look quite like us, they looked a little odd.
Hubrids, look exactly like us. And MIB & Hubrids can control humans, make
them do anything, make them forget anything. Complete control over humans.

And guess what, for the last few years, the aliens have been integrating these
little monsters into our cities and getting abductees to teach them how to fit in,
how to look normal, how to drive cars and pay for things in shops.

They're here to assimilate into our societies and then replace us.
All this sh1t about assisting us with our evolution, my arse. It's war time propaganda!
They're replacing us with hybrids.
They are an existential threat to our species.
Think i'm joking ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEJjHTpCORs

be happy

lucidity

[ghostrider]

The only agenda is our agenda , the watchers are not going to allow any outside ETs to influence us as a planet ... since 1995 the offical withdrawn , project earth is complete , a 13,500 year misson , to teach us self responsibility, and to use our freewill with care ... we are protected ...

[lucidity]

hi Ghostrider,

You're replying from a pre-existing position.

I would prefer to believe that the aliens are our space brothers,
that they are here to look after us and help us grow spiritually.
That would make me feel comfortable and protected.
However, the evidence is just the opposite.

I warmly invite you to click the links in my post above.

be happy

lucidity

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Hi Herve

can we change the title of this thread to "The alien agenda is hostile !"
That would more accurately represent this thread's content.

be happy

lucidity

[mojo]

Evidence weighs in favor on both ends of the spectrum.

[Eric J (Viking)]

Hi Lucid you have no evidence that guys up there have a selfish agenda...give me some proof apart from Jacobs...

The reason why they don't intervene is our free will and soul growth...if push comes to shove with planet earth perhaps they would intervene for the good of the good. In the meantime watch and grow.

I could be more detailed, and in time I will.

Viking

[lucidity]

Posted by viking (here)
Hi Lucid you have no evidence that guys up there have a selfish agenda...give me some proof apart from Jacobs...

The reason why they don't intervene is our free will and soul growth...if push comes to shove with planet earth perhaps they would intervene for the good of the good. In the meantime watch and grow.

I could be more detailed, and in time a will.

Viking

Hi Viking,

You sound like you're defending what you *want* to believe.
I recommend you resist that temptation.

What do you mean they "dont intervene" ... That's the whole point.
They *do* intervene. What's an alien abduction ? In many cases
men, women and children are sexually molested and/or assaulted.
They have *painful* procedures inflicted upon them. Eggs and sperm
are stolen from them. Pregnancies are induced and then extracted
from women without their permission. How can you possibly say
they "dont intervene" ... They clearly *do* intervene.

There is all the evidence in the world that they don't give two figs
about our free will. They inflict these abductions *against* the wishes
of their victims.

This video will show the evidence of *human* mutilations.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdJXAGrcN-E

There is abundant evidence of a hostile alien agenda in the work of Karla Turner:
See here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayLasHNlh4U

be happy

lucidity

[Eric J (Viking)]

Hi Herve

can we change the title of this thread to "The alien agenda is hostile !"
That would more accurately represent this thread's content.

be happy

lucidity

Hi Herve as it's my thread can you please change it to...

Is the alien agenda hostile or not?

Thank you

Viking

[6pounder]

My beliefs were shaped towards this subject basically on two very known persons in the alternative community which are Alex Collier and Simon Parkes. Those who know their stories can tell that the "alien agenda" is not "hostile", I'd rather say complicated. But that's my belief system.

[giovonni]

Posted by mojo (here)
Evidence weighs in favor on both ends of the spectrum.

Yes indeed ...

Of course this is subjective - especially for those who have experienced up close and personal contact ...

To most observants it depends on their own intuitive/perceptiveness of this ongoing global phenomenon ...

Whether good and bad something obviously is occurring ?

[Rocky_Shorz]

Posted by lucidity (here)

Posted by viking (here)

Posted by lucidity (here)

The big news in 2016, hopefully, is that people will begin to realise that the alien agenda is hostile.

be happy

lucidity

In what way?..don't believe it...yes that is the agenda from the PTW...but in reality it is not the case...they want you to think the guys up there are the bad guys...far from tuth Lucid...

Viking

Hi Viking,

Yes, the alien agenda *is* hostile.
They're not here to help you, or us, or humanity generally.
They don't care about pollution or gaia.... or personal growth
Spirituality means nothing to them.
They're not our brothers, they are predators.

But there's lots of different species of aliens.
Which ones specifically am i referring to ?

The Mantids and all the species they already control:
The little greys, the tall greys, (some variety of) reptilian
and lots of human-alien hybrids.
This is the primary crowd that organise the abductions of humans.

There's evidence that this crowd are carnivores and are feeding
on the blood of cows, sheep, horses and even humans. Did you know
that cases of animal mutilations are characterized by the extraction of
all, or nearly all, of the blood in the animal ?
Gallons and Gallons of blood. Like little vampires.
Animal mutilations and wholesale disappearance of flocks and herds
is an ongoing problem and has been happening since the 1950's.
And this *is* happening regularly to human beings and you're *not* being told:
Think i'm joking ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdJXAGrcN-E

David Jacobs wrote a book last year called "Walking Among Us".
He makes the distinction between hybrids and hubrids.
Hybrids are what you imagine they are: human/alien hybrids... they look a little like us and a little like them.
Hubrids look exactly like us. You simply can't tell them and us apart.
Except, that hubrids have the ability to control humans.
They can make you do X or make you do Y.
They can put images in your mind.
They can tell you to do things telepathically.
They can make you forget things.

The MIB were hybrids. They didn't look quite like us, they looked a little odd.
Hubrids, look exactly like us. And MIB & Hubrids can control humans, make
them do anything, make them forget anything. Complete control over humans.

And guess what, for the last few years, the aliens have been integrating these
little monsters into our cities and getting abductees to teach them how to fit in,
how to look normal, how to drive cars and pay for things in shops.

They're here to assimilate into our societies and then replace us.
All this sh1t about assisting us with our evolution, my arse. It's war time propaganda!
They're replacing us with hybrids.
They are an existential threat to our species.
Think i'm joking ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEJjHTpCORs

be happy

lucidity

Finally someone to hate in the world other than Israel... ;-)

[Ioneo]

It is like saying 'The human agenda is hostile' by watching a few true crime shows.

[Rocky_Shorz]

I believe the aliens I have met show a protector idealology...

Interviening before Ukraine went Nuclear, the war more or less ended after he said he was on his way to stop it.

So I strongly disagree through personal experience on your outlooks on aliens.

even little greys that dropped in were friendly...

outside of a dimension we can see, is that what moving to 4D will mean suddenly the invisible going on around us is going to appear?

could it be possible from what I have seen that we are being defended from harmful beings? of course...

but our protectors aren't disappearing any time soon...


So let's think for a moment, are they nice to me because I am not damaging the earth out of greed?

How did he stop the war, was someone beamed up for a meeting?

they might have felt in danger or threatened so the report coming back through Special Intelligence would show a much harsher reality than mine...

[Hervé]

Posted by viking (here)
[...]
Hi Herve as it's my thread ...
[...]

Actually the thread is entirely mine

... from the thread it originated from to starting the split off thread. However, I do agree that, since there is a debate, the polar opposites should appear in the title under a question format.

[Nick07]

I'm with you ghost rider, it's our agenda.

[Matthew]

Not wishing to agree or disagree with any of the above, I am considering the possibility animal mutilations as human origin considering the waste. I smell a fear agenda either way. I'm open to the origin of the phenomenon being extra-terrestrial or ultra-terrestrial or just plain terrestrial. Or a combination.

But the main topic
Interventional/abducting behaviour is not nice. Nice extra/ultras would be more respectful of our individual sovereignty perhaps resulting in them deciding to leave us alone for our own choices, or at the very least being what I will call nice. If they're ET/UTs I am imagining they see us much the same way we see gorillas. Like sure we can relate to gorillas (some of us) but you don't want to be dropped in the middle of a pack, even if you're smarter than them. On another note look at the mess we make when the 'civilised world' meets the less industrialised.

So I think of it: nice ones would mostly leave us alone and respect our choices, not hunt us and interact with us perhaps like Jane Goodall did with chimpanzees, with some respect for the less evolved bings sovereignty.

[ghostrider]

The agenda of the plejaren is not hostile ... other races that choose to be hostile will have to go through them ...

[Bubu]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=LdJXAGrcN-E

Isn't it possible for the PTB to mutilate animals and humans and blame it on the aliens. IF there is a cover up wouldn't this video already disappeared online. I will go for fear porn because that's what the PTB wants to feed us. Let me mention some examples of seeming real stuffs that turned out otherwise. The fluxliner, Keshe foundation, Im sure there are lots. Treat online info with extreme caution.

[Eric J (Viking)]

Posted by Hervé (here)

Posted by viking (here)
[...]
Hi Herve as it's my thread ...
[...]

Actually the thread is entirely mine

... from the thread it originated from to starting the split off thread. However, I do agree that, since there is a debate, the polar opposites should appear in the title under a question format.

If you want to split hairs Herve the thread belongs to Avalon.. ;p

Anyway Rocky spot on with your comment 'another to hate!' ... 'beware of that that promotes division'..

Viking

[mojo]

The list of positive experiences with ETs is as long as the negative ones. The Italian friendship case, George Van Tassel, Carlos Diaz, the many people using CE 5 protocols, Dr Greer, Betty and Barney Hill, James Gilliland, Jon Kelly, myself and even some positive cases in John Macks writings. Yet also fully aware of the cases on mutilation, abduction, and other negative experiences. So it really comes down to an extremist pov arguing their side.