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    I'm sure out of the millions of forums they will find one to be happy in...

    Right now, we have not only the attention of the 33, but those underneath them, illuminati etc...

    I would like constructive discussions, I see them as being here for answers so they don't have to wipe out 6 billion people...

    anyone ready to get down to business of fixing this rock we call home?

    plenty of paint brushes available...

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    What do we want to get out of this thread?
    More people get the boot?
    We turn on each other?
    We do the work that others would like and have the cohesian we are trying to build shot to ribbons?
    I find this all disappointing.

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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    Listen up, Folks: here is an example of where I draw the line.

    Céline wrote here:

    http://nexus.2012info.ca/forum/showt...ll=1#post10203

    Quote dont come to canada, bill and inelia. I promise you both that I will expose you as frauds if you attempt to peddle your snake oil here...
    The Avalon members (aroundthetable, goldenyears and modwiz) who thanked that post revealed their real views. That's fine, of course - but they also communicated clearly that Avalon is not an appropriate community for them to be members. If someone just doesn't understand that, there's not a lot more I can do to explain.

    Very interesting the whole post seems to be somewhat poisonous, I’m shocked and somewhat saddened that these people would turn on the Avalon community. Attacking anyone in such away is wrong and destroys the ideal of unity and respect Avalon stands for, it seems i may have been fooled into calling them friends; acting in such a way helps no one and tarnishes all involved.

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    Dear Bill ..

    with all the due respect to your work and noble efforts ..

    I noticed there is some discomfort here , I'm not home even so no danger I'd indulge myself in many postings . Blessed Easter Holidays to all of you .

    Listen , I would not tolerate some of the arrogant , hateful and otherwise negativistic comments at my home either . We are all sensitive beings .
    People who know me closely they also know that if once they become rude or show certain level of hypocrisy I wont have anything to do with them and leave the town .

    I understand this is not the way forwards . We are not here to spend hours on praising or criticising one another . This is not a fan club , I hope and I'm tired of these interpersonal issues flooding all these boards .
    I feel ashamed for both parties involved and perhaps for myself too , say guilt by association .


    But allow me to tell you that some and many of those countless reactions are caused by yourself alone and it's a simple psychological reflection that does the trick .

    As in physics , every force produces antiforce .


    If you praise someone openly it awakes feelings of insufficiency in many others . Good school teacher should know that , not to talk about higher education professionals .

    If you pick up boy from London suburbs to speak on great truth of universe many understand it's done to heal him . On the other hand ,
    the board with it's thousands members is full of gifted and beautiful individuals with unique abilities and how many of them have the chance to be picked up by you ( if that's you they believe and follow ) .

    Introducing new talented faces is all fine but the emotional or even messianic context as it was in the case of Atticus is not alright .

    It provokes reaction , naturally . These people are not small kids and even if they were .


    If you feel your friend Inelia is special it is perfectly fine but I think that as a leader of this forum you could give things time .

    I'm sure there is about hundred other dolls and charlies around here .


    My apologies for stepping to this debate but I think that reflecting on ones own behaviour ( time ARE changing ) is the shortest way to salvation .


    Thanks and best wishes to you both




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    I have spent two day's reading this fascinating thread.

    And the line that done it for me was.

    Integrity is something you use While no one is watching.

    Blew me away...
    Any way, I said to this man at the bus stop with one leg
    How you getting on, alright!!

    Regards
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    I went over to Nexus to read some of the posts there and a part of me got literally nauseated at reading the comments from some of the posters in their slimy attacks and innuendos against Inelia and their outright nasty comments against Bill and assumptions about who he is. After feeling sick I then laughed at the absurdity of it all.

    Some of you who are both here and on Nexus are saying that you stay here because of the "friends" you have here, but I would guess that many of you who say that are really staying here just to create or engage in more conflict.... because conflict is FUN! Yes, there are many of us who enjoy conflict or at least we are willing to participate in it long after we could just let it die. We like to keep it going because it satisfies a deep longing we have for passionate interactions in our lives and allows us to stand firm in some illusionary belief we have decided to defend (and they're all illusionary). I am occasionally (even often) willing to engage in conflict so I know how good it feels. It's a fun game.

    Looks like Bill is not playing your conflict game in a very satisfying manner though. He's being who he is and not who you think he should be. So that frustrates you even more and your attacks get nastier. Really you are not frustrated or outraged, you're having a lot of fun with this game!! I guess it's fortunate that Bill is not like you so you can have more fun making him the bad guy for not living up to your expectations of who he should be.

    It all boils down to your individual beliefs and judgments of how someone else "should" act, how they should do things the way you would do them. As long as you expect others to be like you you will continue to be outraged when they don't adhere to the script you have written which dictates their words and actions. So you take it personally. It is a personal affront to you that Bill did not do as YOU wanted him to do, as YOU wrote his part into the play.

    Unfortunately (or fortunately) that control over another's part in the play does not exist. But in reality you DO have total control and none of this "drama" needs to affect you at all. It is your choice to take it personally, to be outraged, to be disappointed, to be conflicted. Then there is the larger reality that none of it matters in the slightest. If you choose to make this conflict important in your life, so be it. It's because you're enjoying the game.

    The reality is that this is Bill's forum. He will make the rules. You will either follow the rules or leave or be booted out. Period. Simple. Easy to understand. Any emotional reactions one has to that reality are their own dramas they feel like sharing with others to make themselves feel good and to have fun expressing their personal points of view.

    If any of you who have gravitated to the energy over at the Nexus forum think that it's so wonderful because you can trash anyone in any way you want without repercussions and you can celebrate the wonderful "free speech" over there, then I'm wondering why you can't fully type out certain 4 letter words or words that many people think are nasty? Hmmm.... seems like a bit of censorship has already been imposed. Who was that imposed by? The administrators and moderators!! You mean there is actually a hierarchy over there that is making decisions about the "best" interests of the forum? Where is your egalitarian social order now? Oh yeah, it never existed. There will always be a hierarchy here in 3D constructs and groups. You are only completely sovereign over yourself.

    Nancy

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    My word, are we still at it, I thought it would be over by today, but No.

    We are all here by invitation only to a private guests house owned and run by our host Bill Ryan and his Mods. The name of the house is Avalon. Bill Ryan invites like minded guests to his home to discuss and share all issues concerning life and beyond.

    Some of the guests are outright rude and disrespectful to their host and his guests, some are completely of topic for the house of Avalon, some get even ruder when their behavior is pointed out which is not applicable behavior in his house for himself and his many guests inside and outside of the house.

    He and his guests have been insulted point blank, and action has been taken to restore the guest list to be on track for what Avalon stands for, and the kind of respect that any host and his guests would naturally expected to receive.

    He Bill Ryan has every right to take action as he see fit to put AVALON back on course for his guests, and restore respectful composure to his house.

    PLEASE TELL ME WHICH BIT DO SOME PEOPLE NOT UNDERSTAND ????????????????????

    My regards to all
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    Quote Posted by ace (here)
    I have spent two day's reading this fascinating thread.

    And the line that done it for me was.

    Integrity is something you use While no one is watching.

    Blew me away...
    Any way, I said to this man at the bus stop with one leg
    How you getting on, alright!!

    Regards
    Ace
    Indeed, this is very important. Integrity starts with the self.

    I would say that there is a separation going on, with regards people in real life, the Internet and beyond. but the way I see it is not so much a “separation” but that there is a regathering going on. No right or wrong, or us/them, although this does come up in lower harmonics, more of a realignment of harmony.

    The “politically correct” mindset of allowing enormous low vibe communications and attacks on people and posts in the internet is very prominent in other forums, it simply not allowed here. This fact has never been a secret. Those who don’t agree with this are less than a handful of members, and it’s surprising that they are still here... they are very loud about it though and create a type of off balance of viewpoint of agreement/disagreement which is not really a true reflection of what the overall membership is happy/unhappy with.

    Personally speaking, this is a place I like to hang out in. And I like to hang out here because of the great majority of members who make this place what it is. High vibe, respectful, filled with integrity, enormous variety of viewpoints, beliefs and practices. A shining gem and safe environment to those who come here as readers or participants.

    Nancy
    you totally rock girl!
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post203864

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    Quote PLEASE TELL ME WHICH BIT DO SOME PEOPLE NOT UNDERSTAND ????????????????????
    I feel sad that people I highly appreciated for their commitment to find truth just left !....Peoples who bully on any forum due to their pride and arrogance need to be shown the truth and reality...

    Lets face it ,it all belongs to the ego.

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    Quote Posted by NancyV (here)
    I went over to Nexus to read some of the posts there and a part of me got literally nauseated at reading the comments from some of the posters in their slimy attacks and innuendos against Inelia and their outright nasty comments against Bill and assumptions about who he is. After feeling sick I then laughed at the absurdity of it all.

    Some of you who are both here and on Nexus are saying that you stay here because of the "friends" you have here, but I would guess that many of you who say that are really staying here just to create or engage in more conflict.... because conflict is FUN! Yes, there are many of us who enjoy conflict or at least we are willing to participate in it long after we could just let it die. We like to keep it going because it satisfies a deep longing we have for passionate interactions in our lives and allows us to stand firm in some illusionary belief we have decided to defend (and they're all illusionary). I am occasionally (even often) willing to engage in conflict so I know how good it feels. It's a fun game.

    Looks like Bill is not playing your conflict game in a very satisfying manner though. He's being who he is and not who you think he should be. So that frustrates you even more and your attacks get nastier. Really you are not frustrated or outraged, you're having a lot of fun with this game!! I guess it's fortunate that Bill is not like you so you can have more fun making him the bad guy for not living up to your expectations of who he should be.

    It all boils down to your individual beliefs and judgments of how someone else "should" act, how they should do things the way you would do them. As long as you expect others to be like you you will continue to be outraged when they don't adhere to the script you have written which dictates their words and actions. So you take it personally. It is a personal affront to you that Bill did not do as YOU wanted him to do, as YOU wrote his part into the play.

    Unfortunately (or fortunately) that control over another's part in the play does not exist. But in reality you DO have total control and none of this "drama" needs to affect you at all. It is your choice to take it personally, to be outraged, to be disappointed, to be conflicted. Then there is the larger reality that none of it matters in the slightest. If you choose to make this conflict important in your life, so be it. It's because you're enjoying the game.

    The reality is that this is Bill's forum. He will make the rules. You will either follow the rules or leave or be booted out. Period. Simple. Easy to understand. Any emotional reactions one has to that reality are their own dramas they feel like sharing with others to make themselves feel good and to have fun expressing their personal points of view.

    If any of you who have gravitated to the energy over at the Nexus forum think that it's so wonderful because you can trash anyone in any way you want without repercussions and you can celebrate the wonderful "free speech" over there, then I'm wondering why you can't fully type out certain 4 letter words or words that many people think are nasty? Hmmm.... seems like a bit of censorship has already been imposed. Who was that imposed by? The administrators and moderators!! You mean there is actually a hierarchy over there that is making decisions about the "best" interests of the forum? Where is your egalitarian social order now? Oh yeah, it never existed. There will always be a hierarchy here in 3D constructs and groups. You are only completely sovereign over yourself.

    Nancy
    Quote Posted by Inelia (here)
    Nancy
    you totally rock girl!
    You do! Nancy, once again you're crystal clear about what's right and wrong, and willing to tell it like it is: highly articulately, and with intelligence and respect.

    No way could I have said it any better myself. If reading or writing that negative energy makes anyone feel good, then don't let me stop them. But just take yourself elsewhere and do not bring this junk here.

    Quote Posted by Inelia (here)
    I would say that there is a separation going on, with regards people in real life, the Internet and beyond. but the way I see it is not so much a “separation” but that there is a regathering going on. No right or wrong, or us/them, although this does come up in lower harmonics, more of a realignment of harmony.

    The “politically correct” mindset of allowing enormous low vibe communications and attacks on people and posts in the internet is very prominent in other forums, it simply not allowed here. This fact has never been a secret. Those who don’t agree with this are less than a handful of members, and it’s surprising that they are still here... they are very loud about it though and create a type of off balance of viewpoint of agreement/disagreement which is not really a true reflection of what the overall membership is happy/unhappy with.

    Personally speaking, this is a place I like to hang out in. And I like to hang out here because of the great majority of members who make this place what it is. High vibe, respectful, filled with integrity, enormous variety of viewpoints, beliefs and practices. A shining gem and safe environment to those who come here as readers or participants.
    Exactly.

    Folks, note what Inelia mentions about the separation: this is my observation as well. And it may well continue to manifest in various ways over the next couple of years.

    Ultimately, of course, we're all in this together. I stand for every being in the universe, whatever their history, anger or pain.

    But before we get that all handled, we need to organize in strong groups, and maybe not everyone can be a part of that in its initial stages.

    Charity begins at home, and some people on Planet Earth have to clean themselves up first a little (or bring themselves up to speed) before they're in a position to fully support others.

    This is not the kind of thing that some people like to hear: but it's true.
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    i'm thinking, that a lot of people on this forum DO have integrity.
    and thats why some of us didnt get the 'meaning' of the thread.
    or at least we possibly were not aware of the reasoning behind the threads conception.
    the word integrity, like the word Balance, has many different meanings.
    and the relevance of the word means diferent things to different people.

    its an observation on my part, that some who have spoken out, or disagreed with.....
    are still here. so maybe it isnt about that.
    i read the thread on nexus.

    if i found out that someone was saying things like that about me,
    i would make sure that they knew exactly what i thought of them,
    and in front of as many people as possible.

    in RL there was a guy called ian, he would make himself out to be a friend,
    shaking my hand and saying hello.
    he had this habit though, when he was erm intoxicated, he couldnt keep his mouth shut.
    he was talking with a girl who i liked... i'd heard my name mentioned,
    so i sat on the chair that was behind him, and rolled a smoke.

    i heard him say to her,
    'go with him then, sleep with him, find out what a w*nker he is'

    i walked away, same bloke ten mins later comes up to me, acting like he's my best mate.

    who is the real w*anker?.

    some people ive met though, i didnt like at first, but over time ive grown to respect them.
    ive found i can engage with them, work with them.
    one guy called Otis said to me, 'you're alright man, i like people that are on a level, d'ya know what i mean?'

    i do.

    maybe if bill had posted a link to the nexus thread, and THEN made a statement about integrity,
    things would have been much clearer.

    for the last 2 days, i have been thinking, that i was going to be kicked out,
    for not living up to someone elses defintion of integrity.

    i know what bill means by the defintion he posted, but
    if you can point me to the being that lives that way all the time, i want to meet him.
    IMO the only way one can maintain that state of being, is when one is alone.

    you cant talk to a hells angels member like he's your gran. you'll lose teeth.
    also you might have to engage with those of a different perspective.
    i reckon in a minor way, we compromise our own integrity every day, just by living.

    there is nearly 7 billion people on this planet,
    so why is it, that if you had to count your 'true' friends,
    you could do it with the figers of one hand?

    steve
    when i went there nothing happened!, i was bored out of my mind..................in the Twilight Zone.

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    Would you be able to tell use were this all came from or did i miss the information. this "separation" came out of no ware in my eyes , also together we are stronger regardless of cread/history/pain/angry. regardless of what happens in the world there will always be different kinds of people, even when we leave this shell we will all be different even in ascension.

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    My take is ,if the 33 actually do exist at all wich i am not so sure about it,but lets assume they do ,they are all gathered around a big oval table right now smoking their big cigars and drinking the best scotch money can buy and they are telling each other,you see i told you guys there was nothing to worry about it everything is going according to the plan i can almost hear all their evil laughs all across the ether,like i said folks there is a hidden hand behind all of this and only the blind cannot see that,it seems to me they are on the winning side so far,we got a lot of catch up to do if we are to stand a chance of winning this dirty game!

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    they will fail due to their own complacency.

    the tortoise and the hare

    the best thing for us, is to stop playing their game, and start playing our own
    when i went there nothing happened!, i was bored out of my mind..................in the Twilight Zone.

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    I feel like putting my head through the nearest wall.
    When will all this end?
    How much is enough?
    What is it that we all want to achieve?
    Remember, that if we engage in a ****fight, we all get covered in it.
    My heart is heavy with seeing people I care about being asked to leave and the others throwing crap around like a bunch of chimpanzees at the zoo.
    I hoped we were better than this.
    And we are going to heal the world?
    We need to heal US first.
    I invite and implore those of you who can heal to turn your abilities on to all of those that are casualties in this.........stupidity.
    This is like one of those wars that go on so long no one remembers the why.

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    Quote Posted by Lord Sidious (here)
    I feel like putting my head through the nearest wall.
    When will all this end?
    How much is enough?
    What is it that we all want to achieve?
    Remember, that if we engage in a ****fight, we all get covered in it.
    My heart is heavy with seeing people I care about being asked to leave and the others throwing crap around like a bunch of chimpanzees at the zoo.
    I hoped we were better than this.
    And we are going to heal the world?
    We need to heal US first.
    I invite and implore those of you who can heal to turn your abilities on to all of those that are casualties in this.........stupidity.
    This is like one of those wars that go on so long no one remembers the why.
    This is indeed one of the saddest threads I have seen in my 4 years on Camelot/Avalon.

    Peace and love to all the posters in here.

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    Quote My heart is heavy with seeing people I care about being asked to leave and the others throwing crap around like a bunch of chimpanzees at the zoo.
    I hoped we were better than this.
    And we are going to heal the world?
    We need to heal US first.
    I invite and implore those of you who can heal to turn your abilities on to all of those that are casualties in this.........stupidity.
    This is like one of those wars that go on so long no one remembers the why.
    We do have the choice to stop feeding the beast but that is up to each one.

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    The Avalon members (aroundthetable, goldenyears and modwiz) who thanked that post revealed their real views.
    I have to say that I have sometimes thanked people for their postings when I certainly didn't agree with what they said. Usually I did this because I recognized and appreciated the time, effort, and thought that they put into the post. Sometimes there is only one line in a post that brings me greater clarity about some subject, and just for that I am grateful. There can be any number of reasons why I thank the author for a "useful post", including of course, total agreement with what they expressed. I would hate to be judged by the thanks I give, though I realize we all have a tendency to judge like that. To be unsubscribed and have my voice silenced here for the thanks I give on another forum could really be unjust, I would think.

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    Quote Posted by Chicodoodoo (here)
    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    The Avalon members (aroundthetable, goldenyears and modwiz) who thanked that post revealed their real views.
    I have to say that I have sometimes thanked people for their postings when I certainly didn't agree with what they said. Usually I did this because I recognized and appreciated the time, effort, and thought that they put into the post. Sometimes there is only one line in a post that brings me greater clarity about some subject, and just for that I am grateful. There can be any number of reasons why I thank the author for a "useful post", including of course, total agreement with what they expressed. I would hate to be judged by the thanks I give, though I realize we all have a tendency to judge like that. To be unsubscribed and have my voice silenced here for the thanks I give on another forum could really be unjust, I would think.
    I'm similar in the sense that I invest my thanks and not always to posts that I agree with, I might resonate to it on another level or it might remind me of MYSELF in the past or I just like the thought process that has gone into it rather than just the conclusion or argument. Or sometimes I just thank people for the effort or research that is clearly the BACK STORY of the post.

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    Quote Posted by K626 (here)
    Quote Posted by Lord Sidious (here)
    I feel like putting my head through the nearest wall.
    When will all this end?
    How much is enough?
    What is it that we all want to achieve?
    Remember, that if we engage in a ****fight, we all get covered in it.
    My heart is heavy with seeing people I care about being asked to leave and the others throwing crap around like a bunch of chimpanzees at the zoo.
    I hoped we were better than this.
    And we are going to heal the world?
    We need to heal US first.
    I invite and implore those of you who can heal to turn your abilities on to all of those that are casualties in this.........stupidity.
    This is like one of those wars that go on so long no one remembers the why.
    This is indeed one of the saddest threads I have seen in my 4 years on Camelot/Avalon.

    Peace and love to all the posters in here.

    K
    Sad, very sad.

    ...and there are some hearts out there to be healed.

    Sepia

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