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    The False Flag Alien Threat To Frame The ETs As Enemies
    Harley Hawkins
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    [Please note that I am in no way promoting doom and gloom and fear. Keep in mind that the purpose of these discussions are for us to figure out what the plans are, how the events may unfold, and what we as a group might be able to do to either stop or change those plans. I believe that once there is a general consensus amongst the group, simply publishing our analysis could "Throw a huge wrench" in their plans, possibly forcing them to (at the least) make adjustments. -HH]

    Almost immediately after Bill announced the plans for Demonization / Criminalization of the alternative media, he was personally attacked on the open forum and the highly publicized criminalization of Wikileaks began. By now I would think that it should be rather obvious to most that these plans within their agenda have already started and that they are happening NOW. Since being BEHIND the ball isn't going to do anyone any good, my question is: WHEN DO WE START? And my answer is: WE START NOW!

    The False Flag Alien Threat:

    I have not said anything about this up until now because I was waiting to see if someone else might. But because I have had a growing concern for some time, which has almost become a sense of urgency within myself, I feel I need to say this now. Whatever I know or think I know does not matter in the least. You may accept or reject any or all of this. That is entirely up to you. But at least the seed will have been planted. Keep in mind that if some or none of this comes to pass there's always the possibility that the seeds of truth that we have planted has exposed enough of their plans to the greater public to cause them to cancel or change their course of action. Ideally, that is our goal.

    The Attack:

    This will truly be an international event. But unlike 9-11, which only occurred in the U.S., it will have to be magnitudes bigger (After 9-11, remember the difficulties Bush had in convincing NATO and the allies to join "his war"?). However, even at that it's not going to be that difficult or take that much to convince an unsuspecting world that aliens are attacking. And most everything needed to accomplish such a feat is in place RIGHT NOW. I won't attempt to go into any details of the assault because details have to be always adjustable according to changing events as they occur, but I will list some (possible) things to look for. I will also attempt to list the possible differences in the sequences of events between a Real Enemy attack and a False Flag attack so that when it occurs you may more easily identify which it is.

    And please, by all means, feel free to read between the lines!

    Either Scenario could begin similarly:

    1. A few MAJOR siting events from around the world and broadcast live to the world. (Escalation)

    2. A UFO or two is reported as being brought down, with dead and captured-alive aliens. (Escalation)

    3. A few of earth's military assets from around the world are reportedly taken out. An F16 here, an F22 there, throw in a few MIGS, and maybe even a ship or two. All with loss of life. (Escalation)

    Real Enemy:

    WAR

    1. Take out ALL of earth's satellites - Communications, Radar and Tracking, Space-Based Weapons – All of it including the International Space Station. At this point we will have no more TV coverage unless you have an antenna.

    2. Take out earth's air, ground, and sea defenses and Command and Control facilities.

    3. Begin taking out earth's infrastructure: Power and water plants, Food supply, etc. (Depending on the aliens agenda or when we surrender.

    I need not go any further.

    False-Flag Enemy:

    WAR

    1. Take out SOME of earth's satellites (Only Non-Essential). TV will remain intact to afford the highest visibility to the public.

    2. Along with the re-entering satellites will come the take-down of the I.S.S. This will be your Major International Event because it will be watched by everyone, on TV. (Maximum Effect).

    3. ICBM's in the U.S., and possibly even in the U.K., Russia, or other areas of the world, will be attacked and disabled. Although ICBM's are not defensive systems and cannot be used as interceptors, this will prove to have a great additional effect because the public has already been “conditioned” to possible UFO/ICBM shutdowns.

    4. Air battles and missile launches will be witnessed by everyone, but it will all be skewed to depict the earth as “Holding It's Own”. We will see wins here and losses there, but they will want the population to believe that we have a chance at defeating the enemy BECAUSE they want this to be a long-term, long-standing war.

    5. Over the years, most freedoms and many lives will be lost. ALL FOR A LIE!

    There is one more possibility that I'd like to mention. Has anyone gave much real thought as to why the last Space Shuttle mission marking the end of the Space Shuttle Program has been delayed so many times and for so long? Sure, I know there are sometimes delays. But for six months or more? Also does everyone know who canceled the Space Shuttle Program? No it was NOT Obama. It was Bush! The Shuttle System was conceived exclusively for the building and servicing of the I.S.S., so basically what this means is the end of the shuttles marks the completion and any major servicing of the station. In other words It Is In-Place. Also, wouldn't that be a tremendous “effect” for everyone to see the final shuttle “Shot Down” while on landing approach, say over L.A.?

    Now that I have myself completely depressed, as I'm sure you all are also, I think I'd better stop. I REALLY do not enjoy saying this stuff but I also REALLY need to bring it out in the open. This is one of the reasons I was brought here and I am trying to help. The more people who know how to identify and understand these events as they occur, the more that will cry FOUL and say

    WE ARE NOT BUYING IT!



    Many thanks to Bill, Hiram, and all of my friends whom have supported and encouraged me. We CAN and WILL make this OUR UNIVERSE!
    Harley

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    Default Re: False Flag Alien Threat To Frame The ETs As Enemies

    Very well said Harley


    It IS our Universe, they just dont know it yet.

    The game has changed, this is our playing field now..

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    Default Re: False Flag Alien Threat To Frame The ETs As Enemies

    What you say Harley is certainly one possible scenario.

    Another one might be that they come to save us from ourselves.War,disease,economic or environmental collapse etc.Just when things are about to get bad 'they' show up just in time to 'save us'.

    Another one might be that they show up in 'peace' and offer to 'enlighten' us on what's out there etc.

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    Default Re: False Flag Alien Threat To Frame The ETs As Enemies

    Yes ponda,

    However the scenarios that you are referring to do not fall within the context of this subject. This subject is not about if, when, or why the ETs might "show up".

    Thank You,
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    No probs harley.

    I didn't realize that the thread was limited to that particular scenario.My mistake.

    cheers

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    Quote Posted by Harley Hawkins (here)
    Yes ponda,

    However the scenarios that you are referring to do not fall within the context of this subject. This subject is not about if, when, or why the ETs might "show up".

    Thank You,
    So what you saying is that the info/possibilities you explains have valid info backing them? Its a real scenario that just have no preset events and it just changes as we go? Is it the real deal?

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    Quote Posted by Etherios (here)
    So what you saying is that the info/possibilities you explains have valid info backing them? Its a real scenario that just have no preset events and it just changes as we go? Is it the real deal?
    Hi Etherios,

    Asking this kindly and with all due respect: Did you read the full text of the article? Or are you just responding to the title of the thread? I ask this because all of your comments and questions here are covered (quite plainly) in the article, and the purpose of the article was also made quite clear.

    Thanks!
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    Quote Posted by Harley Hawkins (here)
    Hi Etherios,

    Asking this kindly and with all due respect: Did you read the full text of the article? Or are you just responding to the title of the thread? I ask this because all of your comments and questions here are covered (quite plainly) in the article, and the purpose of the article was also made quite clear.

    Thanks!
    ofc i read the hole article... the problem is that i dont see any evidence or any link to evidence. Also you cant explain more details so in the end its a scenario that might happen or the details of it are a possibility... too much maybe :-P

    Anyway i hope that we are all still alive when this happens and we are able to expose to the ppl around us that this is all a false flag. Tbh i really wish we could avoid all these but the ptb are just ruthless.

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    You guys are hijacking Harley's thread. Let's get

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    Default Re: False Flag Alien Threat To Frame The ETs As Enemies

    Hi Harley Hawkins,

    Hi Everybody,

    Dr. Carol Rosin stated years ago that the governments would try and stage a false flag alien invasion. This was told to her by Vernon Von Braun in 1974. https://youtube.com/watch?v=zbsWvaNBPKI She publicly stated this at the Diclosure Project held at the National Press Club organized by Dr. Steven Greer back in 2001.

    Best regards,

    Steve

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    I can state, without going into any more detail that what Harley has posted, this topic has validity and is a possible scenario that may be fast approaching.

    Its not about real E.T.s, its concerning the possibility for manufactured, false-flag alien attack in order to galvanize the human race and throw them into passivity and chaos. Then the governments of the world step in and offer to protect us from this "Threat". The threat doesn't have to be real, only appear to be real.

    TPTB get to remain in control for the time being, absolute control, something that (because of rapidly advancing technology in the public sector) they are fast losing in this day and time. They simply cannot allow this to happen.

    The governments of the world must be the supreme authority for the people. There can be no other power for the people to turn to for help, THEY CERTAINLY must not think they can turn to themselves.

    This false flag--carried out successfully--- will cement the power and control structure for a generation.

    It behooves us to consider this.
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    Hiram;
    Like Inigo Montoya, "Lemme esplain.
    No, there is no time to esplain, lemme sum up."

    1. Nobody from the government is going to show up, on your front lawn, and protect you from a damned thing.
    2. So, next best thing is to get you to 'join up' and protect government from everything it's afraid of.

    Said list is never-ending.
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    I fail to see how super-soldiers are germane to this thread? This (supersoldiers) seems like a topic that should have its own thread. In fact I'm suspicious that it is a distraction here.
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    Hello Harley,

    Everybody!.....With all due respect, the topic and conditions of this thread have been pointed out in the original post by Harley. Everyone here is getting way off-topic and we should show a bit more respect and get back on track!!!!

    Thank you Beth!!!

    Quote You guys are hijacking Harley's thread. Let's get
    Now that we got that cleared.....first I would like to say,
    Quote And please, by all means, feel free to read between the lines!

    Either Scenario could begin similarly:

    1. A few MAJOR siting events from around the world and broadcast live to the world. (Escalation)

    2. A UFO or two is reported as being brought down, with dead and captured-alive aliens. (Escalation)

    3. A few of earth's military assets from around the world are reportedly taken out. An F16 here, an F22 there, throw in a few MIGS, and maybe even a ship or two. All with loss of life. (Escalation)

    Real Enemy:

    WAR

    1. Take out ALL of earth's satellites - Communications, Radar and Tracking, Space-Based Weapons – All of it including the International Space Station. At this point we will have no more TV coverage unless you have an antenna.

    2. Take out earth's air, ground, and sea defenses and Command and Control facilities.

    3. Begin taking out earth's infrastructure: Power and water plants, Food supply, etc. (Depending on the aliens agenda or when we surrender.

    I need not go any further.

    False-Flag Enemy:

    WAR

    1. Take out SOME of earth's satellites (Only Non-Essential). TV will remain intact to afford the highest visibility to the public.

    2. Along with the re-entering satellites will come the take-down of the I.S.S. This will be your Major International Event because it will be watched by everyone, on TV. (Maximum Effect).

    3. ICBM's in the U.S., and possibly even in the U.K., Russia, or other areas of the world, will be attacked and disabled. Although ICBM's are not defensive systems and cannot be used as interceptors, this will prove to have a great additional effect because the public has already been “conditioned” to possible UFO/ICBM shutdowns.

    4. Air battles and missile launches will be witnessed by everyone, but it will all be skewed to depict the earth as “Holding It's Own”. We will see wins here and losses there, but they will want the population to believe that we have a chance at defeating the enemy BECAUSE they want this to be a long-term, long-standing war.

    5. Over the years, most freedoms and many lives will be lost. ALL FOR A LIE!

    There is one more possibility that I'd like to mention. Has anyone gave much real thought as to why the last Space Shuttle mission marking the end of the Space Shuttle Program has been delayed so many times and for so long? Sure, I know there are sometimes delays. But for six months or more? Also does everyone know who canceled the Space Shuttle Program? No it was NOT Obama. It was Bush! The Shuttle System was conceived exclusively for the building and servicing of the I.S.S., so basically what this means is the end of the shuttles marks the completion and any major servicing of the station. In other words It Is In-Place. Also, wouldn't that be a tremendous “effect” for everyone to see the final shuttle “Shot Down” while on landing approach, say over L.A.?

    Now that I have myself completely depressed, as I'm sure you all are also, I think I'd better stop. I REALLY do not enjoy saying this stuff but I also REALLY need to bring it out in the open. This is one of the reasons I was brought here and I am trying to help. The more people who know how to identify and understand these events as they occur, the more that will cry FOUL and say

    WE ARE NOT BUYING IT!
    Very well said Harley...............

    I had posted the following "Alien Invasion Movies Coming Out 2011/2012" on my blog and I think it correlates with your post.

    Hollywood is deeply involved in this!....Has anyone wounder why so many films have been dead on and now they have a parade of "Alien Invasion" movies coming out for the next couple of years? Take a look at "The Day after Tomorrow", has anyone noticed how this film has been playing continuously since it's released on TV? and now most of the Norther Hemisphere is being threaten by a mini Ice Age thanks to the BP Oil Spill.

    Wake-Up people, what Harvey is trying to convey to us is that this is a very realistic scenario and the signs to look for in case of such events develop, please don't make it out to be something else and let's get back on topic.

    Quote Many thanks to Bill, Hiram, and all of my friends whom have supported and encouraged me. We CAN and WILL make this OUR UNIVERSE!
    This Gentleman is a dear friend of Bill's and if he was invited here is because he may have something important to share with us. Some of us may need to learn how to listen more and read between the lines.

    "Learn to appreciate all knowledge for what it is, for if it has arrived in your live it may be for a specific reason. Take it, inject it, process it and digested.....FULLY Understand it, make it part of your daily life and when the moment comes Recall it and act upon it........This in terms is what makes you a Wiser Person!"


    PS
    Please forgive me if my comments where taken personally by anybody....those were not my intentions!!!
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    Ok we we need to arm ourselves with discernment and skepticism to counter any attack, real or FAKE on us and our loved ones (and hopefully we can expand that definition ever outwards to encompass more and more of our brothers and sisters) - strength lies in numbers. The more awake and aware we are the better we can take care of business at hand. Conversely the more asleep and benumbed we are "ALL THE BETTER TO EAT YOU UP" as the Big Bad Wolf once said eloquently.

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    To me this is the most essential of the false flag requirements.:

    Quote False-Flag Enemy:

    WAR

    1. Take out SOME of earth's satellites (Only Non-Essential). TV will remain intact to afford the highest visibility to the public.
    Whenever I envision any attack or such, I come to the realization that this global communications vector is what will carry the inertia of the FF event and allow it to escalate.

    Said another way....... no TV, no imprisonment.

    jeanna

    [so kill yer TV]

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    Sorry for side stepping the topic.

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    Quote Posted by Hiram (here)
    Agreed. I notice a pattern there. Look over here...pay no attention to that. I do think it needs it's own thread though because there is alot of interest in discussing it on this forum.

    I am much more interested in a false flag alien threat. I think that is important for us to discuss here.
    Imagine 9-11 on crack, LSD, and lots and lots of steroids.......This would be the calibur of a false flag alien attack. A nameless, faceless enemy(just like terrorists) to keep all eath's masses in fear. Its a brilliant idea and if the technology is there i don't see why it couldn't happen. Hiram is right, control via this avenue would last GENERATIONS.
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    Koyaanisqatsi you forgot enormous amounts of testosterone

    I suggest that there would be two main hallmarks of a fake attack - i.e. that significant elements of what I call the two hollow supporting pillars of TPTB's sacred temple, Joachin and Boaz, would remain standing because they are essential to TPTB continuing to operate their control paradigm. One pillar is the economic system, through which these vampires extract our blood to nourish themselves and the other pillar is the communications system that they rely upon to brainwash and intimidate us and to control the machinery of their far-flung system. If significant elements of these two pillars remain standing that means to me that it is a false attack................if those pillars fall - we are actually under attack by..........?????????????
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    False flag? Oldest game in the book...has been and will continue to be the source of all control, on all levels of earths SYSTEM structures, including off world and it seems...somewhat Universal.

    I am writing below and linking, for those who wish for a better understanding of what exactly is a Falseflag, how it has been and is still widely used today.

    "False flag operations are covert operations designed to deceive the public in such a way that the operations appear as though they are being carried out by other entities. The name is derived from the military concept of flying false colors; that is, flying the flag of a country other than one's own. False flag operations are not limited to war and counter-insurgency operations, and are OFTEN used in peace-time".

    Here are some excellent examples of Falseflag dealings, which once understood, clearly shows how this is used and also falls under other 'Umbrella names'
    This gives us a clear understanding that this form of 'Falseflag usage' works extremely well...for whoever is in control, on and off world.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_flag


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