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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    Who is to say that all of our Governments/Military have a covert operation to release the bioweapon of Coronavirus upon their own countries.

    The UK have a history of this!! And that is To eliminate as many 'useless eaters' as possible. I believe Prince Phillip has made this comment in years gone past!

    Just look at their history:


    Link: https://www.theguardian.com/politics...medicalscience

    Mod note from Tintin: this Guardian article is 17, nearly 18 years old, first published April 2002

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    Millions were in germ war tests
    Much of Britain was exposed to bacteria sprayed in secret trials

    The Ministry of Defence turned large parts of the country into a giant laboratory to conduct a series of secret germ warfare tests on the public.

    A government report just released provides for the first time a comprehensive official history of Britain's biological weapons trials between 1940 and 1979.
    Many of these tests involved releasing potentially dangerous chemicals and micro-organisms over vast swaths of the population without the public being told.

    While details of some secret trials have emerged in recent years, the 60-page report reveals new information about more than 100 covert experiments.

    The report reveals that military personnel were briefed to tell any 'inquisitive inquirer' the trials were part of research projects into weather and air pollution.
    The tests, carried out by government scientists at Porton Down, were designed to help the MoD assess Britain's vulnerability if the Russians were to have released clouds of deadly germs over the country.

    In most cases, the trials did not use biological weapons but alternatives which scientists believed would mimic germ warfare and which the MoD claimed were harmless. But families in certain areas of the country who have children with birth defects are demanding a public inquiry.

    One chapter of the report, 'The Fluorescent Particle Trials', reveals how between 1955 and 1963 planes flew from north-east England to the tip of Cornwall along the south and west coasts, dropping huge amounts of zinc cadmium sulphide on the population. The chemical drifted miles inland, its fluorescence allowing the spread to be monitored. In another trial using zinc cadmium sulphide, a generator was towed along a road near Frome in Somerset where it spewed the chemical for an hour.

    While the Government has insisted the chemical is safe, cadmium is recognised as a cause of lung cancer and during the Second World War was considered by the Allies as a chemical weapon.

    In another chapter, 'Large Area Coverage Trials', the MoD describes how between 1961 and 1968 more than a million people along the south coast of England, from Torquay to the New Forest, were exposed to bacteria including e.coli and bacillus globigii , which mimics anthrax. These releases came from a military ship, the Icewhale, anchored off the Dorset coast, which sprayed the micro-organisms in a five to 10-mile radius.

    The report also reveals details of the DICE trials in south Dorset between 1971 and 1975. These involved US and UK military scientists spraying into the air massive quantities of serratia marcescens bacteria, with an anthrax simulant and phenol.
    Similar bacteria were released in 'The Sabotage Trials' between 1952 and 1964. These were tests to determine the vulnerability of large government buildings and public transport to attack.

    In 1956 bacteria were released on the London Underground at lunchtime along the Northern Line between Colliers Wood and Tooting Broadway. The results show that the organism dispersed about 10 miles. Similar tests were conducted in tunnels running under government buildings in Whitehall. Experiments conducted between 1964 and 1973 involved attaching germs to the threads of spiders' webs in boxes to test how the germs would survive in different environments. These tests were carried out in a dozen locations across the country, including London's West End, Southampton and Swindon. The report also gives details of more than a dozen smaller field trials between 1968 and 1977.

    In recent years, the MoD has commissioned two scientists to review the safety of these tests. Both reported that there was no risk to public health, although one suggested the elderly or people suffering from breathing illnesses may have been seriously harmed if they inhaled sufficient quantities of micro-organisms.

    However, some families in areas which bore the brunt of the secret tests are convinced the experiments have led to their children suffering birth defects, physical handicaps and learning difficulties.

    David Orman, an army officer from Bournemouth, is demanding a public inquiry. His wife, Janette, was born in East Lulworth in Dorset, close to where many of the trials took place. She had a miscarriage, then gave birth to a son with cerebral palsy. Janette's three sisters, also born in the village while the tests were being carried out, have also given birth to children with unexplained problems, as have a number of their neighbours.

    The local health authority has denied there is a cluster, but Orman believes otherwise. He said: 'I am convinced something terrible has happened. The village was a close-knit community and to have so many birth defects over such a short space of time has to be more than coincidence.'

    Successive governments have tried to keep details of the germ warfare tests secret. While reports of a number of the trials have emerged over the years through the Public Records Office, this latest MoD document – which was released to Liberal Democrat MP Norman Baker - gives the fullest official version of the biological warfare trials yet.

    Baker said: 'I welcome the fact that the Government has finally released this information, but question why it has taken so long. It is unacceptable that the public were treated as guinea pigs without their knowledge, and I want to be sure that the Ministry of Defence's claims that these chemicals and bacteria used were safe is true.'

    The MoD report traces the history of the UK's research into germ warfare since the Second World War when Porton Down produced five million cattle cakes filled with deadly anthrax spores which would have been dropped in Germany to kill their livestock. It also gives details of the infamous anthrax experiments on Gruinard on the Scottish coast which left the island so contaminated it could not be inhabited until the late 1980s.

    The report also confirms the use of anthrax and other deadly germs on tests aboard ships in the Caribbean and off the Scottish coast during the 1950s. The document states: 'Tacit approval for simulant trials where the public might be exposed was strongly influenced by defence security considerations aimed obviously at restricting public knowledge. An important corollary to this was the need to avoid public alarm and disquiet about the vulnerability of the civil population to BW [biological warfare] attack.'

    Sue Ellison, spokeswoman for Porton Down, said: 'Independent reports by eminent scientists have shown there was no danger to public health from these releases which were carried out to protect the public.

    'The results from these trials_ will save lives, should the country or our forces face an attack by chemical and biological weapons.'

    Asked whether such tests are still being carried out, she said: 'It is not our policy to discuss ongoing research.'
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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    One of my best friends called me today who is a surgeon in the mid-west region of the states. He's been a surgeon for 40 years, gets the CDC reports . We spoke a while about the C virus. He said there are some optimistic reports coming out that chinas wave is getting less and now its our turn and that hopefully weeks from now were thru it here in the states. This is exactly what happened in 1918. I asked him about could it come back this fall and he said very possible. That also happened in 1918. I told him I told my folks to stay home now since it is arriving, they are 80 and 87. He said great advise. Because of the incubation period I may only be able to just wave thru the window to be 100% sure they don't get it. Remember 80% of us that get it will be mild to little symptoms just like the cold,whats making this alarming is how fast it is spreading #1 , and #2 for the elderly or people that have had medical conditions prior to or in the past it puts them at a higher risk. Those are really the ones that need to be told to stay home period and re-assured its the right thing to do . Will get thru this , no time to panic just when going out think of it as a game of chess, one cautious move at a time.

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    Exclamation Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    ⚠️ #Stop5G Related Issues? 🦜🦋🌳 ...

    Dr. Thomas Cowan, M.D. hypothesizes that Coronavirus may be history repeating itself and caused by 5G. Shot at the Health And Human Rights Summit in Tucson, Arizona on March 12, 2020. Camera, sound and editing by Joshua Coleman. ‼️
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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    This sounds familiar!


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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    I don’t think it’s “just the flu”. I think it is a weaponized virus or other bio weapon. I’m sure some will deem me a Neanderthal for thinking that.

    If so, it was not designed to be just the flu. If so, we have no way to predict its future course by looking to past flu viruses. If so, how can any test kit be reliable? If so, how can any vaccine they come up with be efficacious and safe? And so on.....

    Edit:

    I’m more concerned about the vaccine they will force on people, than Covid19.

    I’ll tell you right now, I will not let them stick that poison in me. I guess I may be headed to forced “quarantine.”
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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    Coronavirus Sterilizes Males! China News Just Announced Today March 12, 2020:

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    Quote Posted by ExomatrixTV (here)
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=zFN5LUaqxOA
    Dr. Thomas Cowan, M.D. hypothesizes that Coronavirus may be history repeating itself and caused by 5G.
    There's no 5G in Iran.

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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    Quote Posted by peterpam (here)
    Quote Posted by David Trd1 (here)
    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

    If you want me to post my real suspicions, I can. But that's a different topic.

    Regardless of how this started, or any agenda behind it, real people are suffering and will suffer. This is not a Truman Show mirage.
    Bill I would be extremely interested to hear what your thoughts/suspicions are regarding this...?
    I second that, Bill we would like to hear your suspicions.
    Okay.

    This conversation between some of the mods (mainly Gracy May and myself) was a spontaneous one on our running text chat last Sunday morning US time, 5 long days ago.

    ~~~

    Gracy May
    Some things still somewhat confuse me concerning both China and the Anglo-Saxon Mission. Like pre WW2, IIRC, China had been pretty much a backward country that had been dominated by Britain, and later even Japan. Then suddenly just a few years after the war, they and also the backwards Koreans were able to fight the US to a standstill. How does that happen so quickly?
    But my main thing is that so far as I know, China was STILL not even close to any kind of world player on the grand chessboard on up into the 1970's, it took none other than Mr. NWO himself Henry Kissinger to open things up, and clear the way for them. Then on down the line there were numerous and purposeful either leaks and/or sales of ultra high technology, starting with Clinton if I’m not mistaken.
    Now apparently China has also done well in copying and stealing US technology, but I’m quite sure we would do the same to catch up with a superior power. That doesn’t necessarily make them “bad guy”, much the same has been with Israel and they are the golden child with special protections in place.
    Anyway, I’m confused why the World Order would have to resort to giving China a cold, thus possibly knocking them quite a few rungs back down the ladder, when they could have just sat on and squash them from the get go like they have North Korea. Why build them up in the first place just to have to then tear them back down again? There must be a bigger picture here I'm missing.

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    @Gracy - it doesn't make a lot of sense, but, then again, their mindset is so peculiarly warped and illogical to a human mind that they just do not care less. Worst case scenario is that the planned depopulation aspect of the agenda is underway and they can sustain the economic fallout; to heck with everyone else.
    They really do think like that.

    Bill
    Policies may have changed over the years, swinging one way and then the other. My understanding is that the topmost ruling group — whoever they are — isn’t always in agreement nowadays about a lot of things. That’s one of the things that makes analysis from way down here really hard. Because actions and strategies aren’t always consistent.
    A few years ago, in I think 2015-16, an insider sent me an email. I never published it anywhere or talked about it much to anyone. It was just too vague, or seemed to be vague at the time. I never knew what it was about.
    He said he wanted to "throw me a bone", and said something “very, very big” was about to happen. I just thanked him, asked him for more info, and said I would listen.
    Then a week or so later he wrote again: “Buckle up! Here we go. The big rocket ride starts now.”
    But nothing happened at all. I can't quite get the thought out of my mind that THIS (the current virus scenario) is what he was referring to, but it was delayed.

    Gracy May
    Wow, hmm....

    Bill
    On the main virus thread, I'm sticking (mostly) to fact-reporting, and rational fast-forecasting, as best I can. But I do think this was engineered/ choreographed, and I do increasingly think it did NOT originate in China: it was just planted there. And right from the very start, I've been thinking so strongly and clearly: OMG, this is very, very major.
    Sometimes I get swamped with a feeling of huge grief. I know myself well enough to know what that's about... it's like touching psychically into an electric output. It's not my own personal fear. I'm not afraid of anything, for myself. It's what I feel I can see and fear for others.
    I'm not 100% psychic, but I'm much more psychic than I usually ever talk about. The times I get affected are when I read something, like a comment, that says it so accurately that it just resonates like a big bell. I'm not affected by the comment, I'm affected by suddenly recognizing the truth. That's a subtle difference.

    Gracy May
    I don't blame you for keeping some things more to yourself like that.

    Bill
    The Twitter feed from Liz Specht — you must see that — was something I figured out myself 7-10 days prior. That really got to me (when I saw it all for myself earlier), and I suddenly viewed the whole thing, like Nostradamus gazing into the candle flame. Timelines can change, but the way we're heading this is going to be something (in the words of a YT comment I read, that also rang like a bell) everyone will remember for the rest of their lives.

    Gracy May
    I saw her feed last night.

    Bill
    I don't blame anyone for not wanting to look at it! But plenty of people, even some of Avalon's best, are in denial. It's only just started to get bad. Only Chris Martenson, as best I know, really has this thing by the tail.

    Gracy May
    But then this would not just be all about China.

    Bill
    If it is engineered and planned, then they'll have done this very carefully. And that means enormous planned effects on everything and everyone.
    Right, not just about China.
    I think it's multifaceted. Like burning a forest so they can replant what they want to be there instead.

    Gracy May
    Good analogy. I hope it’s not that. Wouldn't that go well beyond the Anglo-Saxon Mission?

    Bill
    Yes, it would.
    Here's a hypothesis test — not a prediction. IF the thing mutates to suddenly become more deadly, then it's engineered. That would mean population reduction. (Besides much else.)
    But I'm not going to bang any drum about that on the forum. Predictions are of little value! (We know that. ) Whatever will happen, we'll all soon know, within a couple months.

    Gracy May
    Here’s the way I'm starting to "see" this thing Bill. Pearl Harbor WAS a big deal, a traumatic big deal that people remembered for the rest of their lives like you mentioned earlier, but it wasn't THAT big of a deal. The BIG deal, was what chain of events did it unleash? Same exact thing with 9/11. I'm starting to see this thing very similar as those two events. Maybe on a larger scale, but the BIG deal would be, what it unleashes when the dust settles.

    Bill
    Yes. Some bloggers have described this as another 9/11, but (a) global and (b) all in slow motion so we can't all immediately quite see what's happening.

    Gracy May
    If so, then from a historical perspective, we need to be looking bigger than what the news is barking out.

    Bill
    Yes.
    A couple of weeks back, I did post that (in theory) this might be a scenario to get rid of (1) China, (2) Iran, and (3) Trump. (And maybe a lot of other things I never mentioned, like the free internet, freedom of movement and travel, cash transactions, and much more.) It's not impossible. Simply the way this has been handled in the US makes it hard not to suspect there's not another agenda afoot, that Trump has no idea about and may have been deeply planned.

    Gracy May
    I think you might be onto something there.
    Actually, I'm thinking (1) (2) and (3) might would be secondary expectations.

    Bill
    Yes, that's possible.
    Did you know that the reasons the first batch of CDC tests failed was because they'd also built in tests for SARS and MERS? That was almost impossible to believe. That's the reason why they didn't work right and had to be withdrawn. That was either staggering incompetence, or just a really clever intentional slow-down spanner in the works.

    Gracy May
    Yes, I saw that.

    Bill
    Trump has no idea of any of this, and is being allowed (by someone) to make an idiot of himself.

    Gracy May
    I was like WTF is that!

    Bill
    Ha! Yes

    Gracy May
    Things like that generally fall to either that staggering incompetence, or purposeful malfeasance.

    Bill
    Yes. Another hypothesis test is to see if in the next few weeks something else big surfaces in the US that seems like someone's staggering incompetence: something quite different, but majorly affecting the entire juggernaut roll-out. Then, it starts to look like way too many arrows accurately fired into exactly the same bullseye.

    Gracy May
    Huh, food for thought there.

    Bill
    Here's another minor thing ("minor", as it were! ). No-one's mentioned Venezuela. Not anywhere, by anyone. But it's already in Ecuador and Columbia. If/when it gets into Venezuela, that's that whole country gone.

    Gracy May
    Maybe, I'm still not convinced that the death toll is going to be as staggering as some are predicting. Could well be wrong, but usually the purpose is to scare the living **** out of the population.

    Bill
    Yes, I don't disagree. But as I've tried to say several times in posts, deaths aren't really the issue. (Unless the thing mutates.) It's the impact on everything else, including medical facilities, supply chains, infrastructure, the global economy, social structure, freedom of movement, politics, etc etc.
    In some countries, politicians are starting to be infected, and in Iran several have died already. That's like a sniper effect. All this is what makes this so different. And if the Pope dies, which is far from impossible, then that'll be a devastating global trauma for all Catholics. (A lot of people!)

    Gracy May
    Yes, the sniper effect. Hmmm... Interesting you mention Venezuela. That would be similar to Iran, in that it's much worse than it should be because of those terrible sanctions.

    Bill
    Yep, all very convenient. A way to make problems disappear.

    Gracy May
    Well, it’s also I think different because of the strain Iran has. Which is interestingly the same one Italy has?
    Supposedly the Italians and Iranians are genetically similar.

    Bill
    I don't think all the gene sequencing has been done yet. But a lot of people must be working on that.

    Peter UK
    Italy has placed up to 16 million people under quarantine as it battles to contain the spread of coronavirus. Anyone living in Lombardy and 14 other central and northern provinces will need special permission to travel.

    Bill
    Yes.
    And I also mentioned the retaliation effect. IF this was introduced into China by an enemy (presumably a US-based deep state agency), then the Chinese military will know this, and will be retaliating with their OWN bioweapon. That's so simple to do. They just send a kamikaze volunteer to Washington DC to attend a few political events, and then sit back and watch.
    (That's another hypothesis test.)

    Gracy May
    Yes, you're quite right of course they would.

    Bill
    So if another virus starts to circulate as well, which is evidently different, then we'll all definitely know with certainty what's happened.
    As best I know, not one person out there has put all that together that way. But it may all be quite wrong. All we can do is watch this all play out for a few more weeks. Predictions and guesses in public are of no value at all.

    Gracy May
    This is where that hypothesis gets tricky. Neither one of these parties are stupid, so wouldn't the original offending party, namely some branch of US Intel, know the Chinese would catch on and retaliate in kind? It seems sort of like the mutually assured destruction thing between the US and Russia. In no-fone’s interest to make that first strike.
    Unless of course, you rise above the level of nation state.

    Bill
    Right. If there's a master plan at a higher level, then that kind of war may be exactly what's designed. The advantage of bioweapons over nukes (so to speak!) is that the machinery, the ports, the ships, the agricultural land, the factories, are all 100% undamaged. All the livestock, too. Just the humans gone.

    Gracy May
    True, all the infrastructure in place.
    Whew, now my brain hurts....

    Bill
    Sorry!!

    Gracy May
    No no I enjoy walking this through.
    A lot to chew on.

    Bill
    I try to talk to Mara about this, but all she wants is her breakfast.

    Gracy May
    She's not interested huh?
    Chuckle.

    Bill
    That and the next hike! Whoever coined the phrase "it's a dog's life" got it all wrong... a dog's life is mostly pretty wonderful

    Gracy May
    A lot of moving parts here, thanks for walking through all that with me
    Bill it really helps in trying to come to some deeper overall understandings. Even down the road it might well come into play, "we were just talking about that!"
    Yes, I'm taking a much needed break and coming back as a spoiled dog next go around….
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    Has anybody posted this yet ?

    "Mass arrests" back on the cards.


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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    Thank you for letting us be a fly on the wall for that conversation!

    I've got a bad feeling about this, too. Something tickled my brain back in December when I read reports of an unidentified pneumonia causing deaths in China. Something said, "Pay attention to this." I made a mental note to watch it and moved on. Then things began to hit the fan in January. (I think it's what prompted me to join PA.) I've had a feeling of dread since then. I can feel the stress response in my body, and even though I take steps to address it, I can't seem to totally shake that. (Which annoys me, cause I like to pretend I'm in control of my emotions.)

    It doesn't make sense to me either. I don't see this being some kind a biowar between countries or factions, not even in shadow form. That just doesn't compute for me. But I don't know what or who is behind it. I'm not even convinced that it's some shadow power, exactly.

    But whatever it is, it's bad. That much I know. How bad? Like you said. Time will tell.

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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    Okay.

    This conversation between some of the mods (mainly Gracy May and myself) was a spontaneous one on our running text chat last Sunday morning US time, 5 long days ago.

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    The world is changed... I feel it in the water... I feel it in the earth... I smell it in the air...
    Much that once was is lost, for none now live who remember it.

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    Quote Posted by Earth Angel (here)
    I can’t help feeling like this is the Health version of a controlled demolition 🧐
    I’m in Ontario Canada in a small town about an hour from Toronto. The schools in all of Ontario will be closed until April 5 All major events are being cancelled and toilet paper is like hens teeth.

    It’s insanity. Yes I am one of those who believe this is being blown way out of proportion.

    Guess I’m the golden retriever and the Neanderthal
    My sweet Earth Angel.. you came up with the most wonderful saying. It is the meme for the times

    "Toilet paper is like hens teeth" I absolutely love it. I am going to put it on a sticky note.

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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    this Virus has allegedly had bits of the HIV virus added. We do not know what characteristics the inserted sequences confer, however a characteriestic of HIV is rapid mutation...

    "The high levels of genetic diversity of the HIV-1 virus grant it the ability to escape the immune system, to rapidly evolve drug resistance, and to circumvent vaccination strategies. However, our knowledge of HIV-1 mutation rates has been largely restricted to in vitro and cell culture studies"


    https://journals.plos.org/plosbiolog...l.pbio.1002251
    we have subcontracted the business of healing people to Companies who profit from sickness.

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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    China: ‘Patient zero’ may be US soldier.

    China’s foreign ministry spokesman has claimed the coronavirus may have started with a US soldier.

    “When did patient zero begin in US? How many people are infected? What are the names of the hospitals? It might be US army who brought the epidemic to Wuhan. Be transparent! Make public your data! US owe us an explanation!” Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Lijian tweeted.

    He also posted a link to this article about:
    https://www.globalresearch.ca/china-...update/5705196

    Source:
    https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/he...85d37161226714

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    Quote Posted by uzn (here)
    China: ‘Patient zero’ may be US soldier.

    China’s foreign ministry spokesman has claimed the coronavirus may have started with a US soldier.

    “When did patient zero begin in US? How many people are infected? What are the names of the hospitals? It might be US army who brought the epidemic to Wuhan. Be transparent! Make public your data! US owe us an explanation!” Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Lijian tweeted.

    He also posted a link to this article about:
    https://www.globalresearch.ca/china-...update/5705196

    Source:
    https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/he...85d37161226714
    There are many pieces to this puzzle. Multiple news stories added to the mix.

    There was the story about the virus being stolen from a facility in Winnipeg Canada by the Chinese. It was then assumed that an accident caused it to escape into the public.

    The theory/story that it came from the market in Wuhan from food and poor hygiene.

    Then it was theorized that it could have come from the soldiers who were involved in the war games that took place in China in October/November 2019.

    Once they are able to establish if it is a man made virus from a lab and then if they are able to know for a fact which lab has the capabilities to create such a virus then they still would need to know if it was released intentionally or accidentally.

    There will most likely be some political finger pointing and posturing but it will not be evident what the underlying reasons and objectives truly are.

    Another theory - the group at the very top of the ladder orchestrated this to bring chaos to the current structure so that they can bring in their own new order.

    ...I think Project Avalon better get themselves prepared to handle more traffic and volume because going forward I expect we will have more topics to discuss than anyone can imagine!

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    Quote Posted by peterpam (here)
    Quote Posted by TomKat (here)
    Quote Posted by Franny (here)
    I must admit this was rather humorous.
    I think people are worried about being quarantined and running out of TP. That's all the sense I can make of it.
    At the end of the day, there are alternatives to TP in a pinch. Running out of TP or paper towels is not life threatening. I think that a couple of videos of people hoarding TP led to the masses automatically following the lead without reasoning it out. I think it is a shining example of how easy we humans can be influenced and led.
    I went to the store today and was surprised to find all the TP, eggs and many other things sold out. I went to another store and was lucky to find a couple dozen eggs, and waited at least 30 minutes to buy them. I would have bought just 1 carton but... And so it goes with panic buying, where even the un-panicked are forced into it.

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    Quote Posted by rainsong (here)
    But whatever it is, it's bad. That much I know. How bad? Like you said. Time will tell.
    Bad if you're a smoker:

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2020-...en-chinese-men

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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    The US House of Representatives passed a new law "Families First Coronavirus Response Act" tonight that provides for free testing for Covid-19 for uninsured. For people covered by Medicare, Medicaid and other major insurances, there is provision for no deductible and co-insurance, so would also in effect be free to the insured people. It's about time the US government enacted such a legislation to foot the bill instead of putting it on the people. Taiwan has already been doing this for its citizens, even going beyond the provisions of this bill.

    Quote This bill responds to the coronavirus outbreak by providing paid sick leave and free coronavirus testing, expanding food assistance and unemployment benefits, and requiring employers to provide additional protections for health care workers.

    Specifically, the bill provides FY2020 supplemental appropriations to the Department of Agriculture (USDA) for nutrition and food assistance programs, including
    • the Special Supplemental Nutrition Program for Women, Infants, and Children (WIC);
    • the Emergency Food Assistance Program (TEFAP); and
    • nutrition assistance grants for U.S. territories.
    The bill also provides FY2020 appropriations to the Department of Health and Human Services for nutrition programs that assist the elderly.

    The supplemental appropriations provided by the bill are designated as emergency spending, which is exempt from discretionary spending limits.

    The bill modifies USDA food assistance and nutrition programs to
    • allow certain waivers to requirements for the school meal programs,
    • suspend the work requirements for the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP, formerly known as the food stamp program), and
    • allow states to request waivers to provide certain emergency SNAP benefits.
    In addition, the bill requires the Occupational Safety and Health Administration to issue an emergency temporary standard that requires certain employers to develop and implement a comprehensive infectious disease exposure control plan to protect health care workers.

    The bill also includes provisions that
    • establish a federal emergency paid leave benefits program to provide payments to employees taking unpaid leave due to the coronavirus outbreak,
    • expand unemployment benefits and provide grants to states for processing and paying claims,
    • require employers to provide paid sick leave to employees,
    • establish requirements for providing coronavirus diagnostic testing at no cost to consumers,
    • treat personal respiratory protective devices as covered countermeasures that are eligible for certain liability protections, and
    • temporarily increase the Medicaid federal medical assistance percentage (FMAP).

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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    About the origin of the virus RT also posted two articles on this:

    ‘Where was your patient zero?’ Chinese official speculates AMERICANS may have infected Wuhan at army games & calls to ‘come clean’

    Quote Chinese foreign ministry spokesperson Lijian Zhao has demanded US authorities reveal what they’re hiding about the origins of Covid-19, going as far as to suggest the coronavirus may have been brought to China by the US military.

    and then...


    Beijing won't disown spokesman’s theory of US hand in coronavirus outbreak

    Quote China has declined to distance itself from the accusations made by a foreign ministry spokesman alleging US involvement in the coronavirus epidemic, arguing that opinions vary on how the health crisis started.
    Quote Chinese foreign ministry spokesman Geng Shuang wouldn’t comment on Friday about remarks made by colleague Zhao Lijian. Instead, the ministry official stated that the international community had differing opinions about the origin of the Covid-19, Reuters reported. Geng also chose not to discuss whether Zhao’s theory — that it may have been the US military that brought the deadly disease to Wuhan — matched Beijing’s official position.

    Update from Norway: 996 confirmed cases. 1 death.

    --------------------

    Here's the video Ethan Galstad talks about here about the doctor who estimates 50 000 to 500 000 infected in the U.S.

    We have between 50,000 and half a million cases right now... in the United States: Johns Hopkins



    Quote The impact of the coronavirus is continuing to escalate, and Johns Hopkins University Professor of Public Health Dr. Marty Makary says, "I think we have between 50,000 and half a million cases right now walking around in the United States". He joins Yahoo Finance's On the Move panel to discuss.
    Last edited by Sophocles; 14th March 2020 at 06:34. Reason: Added video

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    Another really excellent video from Dr Shiva Ayyadurai. This breadth of industrial and scientific experience this guy has is impressive.

    An interesting perspective on viruses is presented thus: it's not the virus that kill or harm us, but rather an overreaction of a weakened or dysfunctional immune system that results in the body attacking its own cells, tissues and organs, resulting in harm or death. And such a reaction is the result of an existing pre-condition which can include (and not limited to) obesity, diabetes, bad air/water/diet, smoking etc.

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    Default Re: The Wuhan Coronavirus [Covid-19, the Honey Badger virus]

    Thank you for posting this. Few years back I was on pa alot. In past 2 years not as much the moment wuhan was a mess here I was. For someone who's been away from the forum this post in particular was one I found helpful. Something about seeing the back and forth of conversation a non hyper matter of fact right or wrong back and forth. Just comforting. I'd always rather here all your mind bill then some of it. Pa has some beautiful minds, we learn from everything right or wrong. Thanks you thank you.

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