Proxima Centauri b ETs rescue Julian Assange, teleport Donald Trump into Belmarsh prison!

[Dennis Leahy]

So, why do you think so few members at Avalon seem to give a rat's ass about the one person (Julian Assange) that's actually the most dangerous to the "Shadow Government"/"Deep State"/"New World Order?"

Why do you think that is?

Do you think people feel frozen with helplessness? ("I can't do anything, so I won't do anything.")

Do you think people have swallowed the Deep State-controlled mainstream media's propaganda? ("I believe Rachel Maddow." or "I believe Bill Kristol.")

Do you think people are too selfish to actually care what happens? ("meh. Not my problem.")

Do you think people are afraid that their online activity of supporting Assange is going to get them in trouble, or "put on a list" of dissidents? ("I'm a coward. I don't want to end up in a FEMA camp. I just want to blend in with the sheep!")

Do you think people are actually ignorant, and don't even realize that Assange has done the most of any human in history to expose the DS/NWO and their henchmen, you know, the bad guys? ("Who is Julian Assange?")

Do you think Deep State Agent Q has confused people so well that they just don't know what to believe and just dismiss obvious facts? ("I don't know what to believe, but I trust Q and Q says ...")

Do you think? (Not everyone is capable of thinking, and have substituted reading and listening to others for thinking.)

(Sorry for the click-bait title, but it worked, didn't it?)

[Justplain]

Dennis, please clarify the proof supporting this assertion:

"Do you think people are actually ignorant, and don't even realize that Assange has done the most of any human in history to expose the DS/NWO and their henchmen, you know, the bad guys?"

To me, Project Camelot's early years has done far more good than Julian Assange to expose the nwo, ssp, etc. Has assuage ever exposed anything about the ssp?

In fact, I'd cite the Corbett Report as more informative than WikiLeaks.

Even "confessions of an economic hitman" is more to the point than the mega-datadumps on WikiLeaks.

Just my two bits on your clickbate. 😁

[Sarah Rainsong]

Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
So, why do you think so few members at Avalon seem to give a rat's ass about the one person (Julian Assange) that's actually the most dangerous to the "Shadow Government"/"Deep State"/"New World Order?"

Why do you think that is?

I guess I would have to ask why you think this? I don't post about him or on that thread. Does this mean I don't care? Of course not, but I don't usually post unless I feel I have something with contributing, and with Assange, I'm kinda out of my element so I just quietly follow.

So on what do you base your assumption?

I should be asleep, it's probably too late for me to be posting anything, but I found the assumption a bit harsh

[Dennis Leahy]

Posted by Justplain (here)
Dennis, please clarify the proof supporting this assertion:

"Do you think people are actually ignorant, and don't even realize that Assange has done the most of any human in history to expose the DS/NWO and their henchmen, you know, the bad guys?"

To me, Project Camelot's early years has done far more good than Julian Assange to expose the nwo, ssp, etc. Has assuage ever exposed anything about the ssp?

In fact, I'd cite the Corbett Report as more informative than WikiLeaks.

Even "confessions of an economic hitman" is more to the point than the mega-datadumps on WikiLeaks.

Just my two bits on your clickbate. 😁

Kerry Cassidy, Bill Ryan, James Corbett, and John Perkins are not in Belmarsh prison being tortured and enduring a kangaroo trial to be extradited to the USA to face 175 years in prison, for anything that they exposed, right?

[Orph]

Tough question to answer. The first half of my life was spent trying to figure out how to operate and succeed in this physical 3D world. I failed miserably. Very little works for me here. The second half of my life I've spent trying to connect with my "inner self - greater self - higher self" or whatever "self" we supposedly have. I failed miserably.

I live in a world that I have little to no ability to have any affect on. Trust me, I've tried. It isn't that I don't care. I do care, very deeply about all the pain and suffering in the world. But literally, when I try to accomplish something, ............ nothing.

Delores Cannon said something like, some people here in this 3D world are real, and a whole lot more are just background filler. Just like in a movie, you have the stars of the show, and the rest of the people are just milling around but have no actual part in the movie. I don't know if that's true or not, but boy-o-boy that would sure describe me.

The other thing is, this chasm between the rich and powerful and the commoner peasants has been going on for thousands of years. The pain, the suffering, the wars, the fight of "good versus evil". It never ends. Literally, it never ends.

I won't say I feel "frozen with helplessness", but whatever the reason I'm here, it isn't to be an active participant.

[Dennis Leahy]

Posted by rainsong (here)

Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
So, why do you think so few members at Avalon seem to give a rat's ass about the one person (Julian Assange) that's actually the most dangerous to the "Shadow Government"/"Deep State"/"New World Order?"

Why do you think that is?

I guess I would have to ask why you think this? I don't post about him or on that thread. Does this mean I don't care? Of course not, but I don't usually post unless I feel I have something with contributing, and with Assange, I'm kinda out of my element so I just quietly follow.

So on what do you base your assumption?

I should be asleep, it's probably too late for me to be posting anything, but I found the assumption a bit harsh

It is a bit harsh (though I stated "so few", not "everyone", and said "it seems" because if people don't post anything or the "views" counter is relatively low compared to say, favorite music, then that is the way "it seems.") I'm astounded at the lack of overt support Assange has here at Avalon. Why aren't people hopping mad about what is happening to Assange, right now? This is important, and current, so it seems that Avalon members would be engaged. When people support Assange, maybe they could post their support publicly? Overt support adds up, quiet support is, well, invisible and silent. Members here offer opinions and/or express support for (or lack of support for) many other people, but not very much with Assange. It's very odd to me.

[Innocent Warrior]

I’ve wondered about this myself, not about Avalonians but the public in general. So many reasons but I’ll briefly outline a couple.

The smear campaign on WikiLeaks and Julian has been largely effective, a lot of people simply don’t recognise them for what and who they are.

I don’t think they’ve read about Julian and Wikileaks in WikiLeaks’ Global Intelligence Files release. They’re not aware of two things; that intel community actually believes the BS they espouse (they’re vile and bat**** crazy) and how much of a threat they see WikiLeaks to be. By destroying Julian they’re crippling WikiLeaks, just another act in a series of acts to do so. The fear is of what WikiLeaks is capable of doing, not what it has done. They are afraid of WikiLeaks. Really think about that for a while, WikiLeaks frightens the ‘deep state’. I don’t think people get the enormity of that, the raw power of indisputable information.

[Justplain]

Dennis, releasing 'classified' documents that gets the government mad at you, and thus Julian's harsh potential prison time, does not necessarily mean that the ds/nwo has been exposed. That's why I consider these other sources more informative on this topic than WikiLeaks.

The Yankees tried to nab Gary Mackinnon as well, but he managed to get off the hook. And Gary really was the kicker for proving that the ssp exists.

Perhaps Julian should release some of those 'sensitive files' WikiLeaks has to soften the yanks up a bit? This might also raise his profile and that might also promote his cause.

[AutumnW]

---because he exposes Trump for exactly what he is and Trump supporters here would blow mental circuitry in an attempt to absolve his royal orangeness. There's one reason.
Another is people have the attention span of gnats.

Another is, "out of sight, out of mind."

And finally, the Assange drug has worn off and some of those valiant truth seekers who originally took up his cause are more interested in info-meth.

The actual truth is not really being pursued. Got to get past the truth. It's a huge obstruction to many on this forum.

They can haul out crap story after crap story, get all excited, outraged, buttsore, over their favorite drug covered with the fake wrapper of "reality."

[Mike]

it's shameful that he doesn't get more support.

i feel more than a twinge of shame thinking about my lack of support.

my answer as to why people don't rally behind him is as mundane as it is layered:

most of us are comfy on the sidelines. we've become professional observers. we see people on the internet and on TV, and we are conditioned to think there is a world 'out there' that exists vaguely but has little to do with our daily lives. it warps one's ability to perceive and comprehend objective reality.

we're saturated in comforts. pleasure begets more pleasure, and it escalates upwards indefinitely. it's never enough. we feel entitled to all of it - what we have and what we want to have. it's an insidious disease that creates a kind of tunnel vision to all else around us.

there will come a time, if it isn't here already, where it won't be morally reprehensible to walk past a person being attacked without helping because one is too consumed with some smart phone activity. there will come a time where the individual walking past the person being attacked won't even know why that's wrong.

that's moral relativism for you. that's postmodernism for you. it's an erosion of our most fundamental judeo-christian ethics and values. we're abandoning them in place of "subjective realities".

without any clear sense of virtue and right or wrong, people flounder. we become mentally and spiritually atrophied. we become nihilistic and lazy and self-indulgent and bitter and resentful and deluded.

in postmodernism, nothing is inherently meaningful. it's a wonderful excuse for people not to act. but if you admit that things are inherently meaningful, you are forced to take responsibility for all of it...and that's why it's avoided: no one wants to take responsibility for anything, because then they will have to do something about it. entire modes of thinking and philosophies have sprung up all over the country teaching this crap.

when you get enough people who buy into this postmodern bullsh!t, you have a population of shiftless, intellectually deficient, value deficient, moral relativists who could coldly walk by an old lady being attacked because their cell phone is beckoning. the chances of those same people going out of their way to help a guy they see on a computer or TV screen, like Assange, is next to nil

without values, nothing is valued.

[Agape]

I think we are back at the point where any isolated individual is helpless against the power of the tide and the “big money” being invested and poured into the various political systems but hardly to “us” as sovereign individuals.

Talking of healthy competition and trade and righteous earnings or accumulation of is late now. The young ones studying economics these days are still led by their neck to the woods, following hooded wizards and authors of pseudo-philosophical manuals on how to achieve liberation and own economical enlightenment, within their approved class of competences.
Their parents, grandparents and so forth bowed to the hierarchy once and complied with a “manner” promising them certain warranties whether they rise or fall.
At times of great uncertainty even the canary in golden cage starts to shiver.

These people are the “hype”, the “cream” of the recent age. They’re not very mature in their wisdom since all they were praised for is being “smart” and “successful”.

I always wished to ask any of these people if they’re aware of the whole maths they participate in is wrong: the path of big individual success does not allow for anyone else to compare so how could millions of people turn to “achievers” under their guidance. Of course no one can’t unless they get sworn to the “club”.
The rest is a game of maintenance of the “masses”. Using different strategies in different parts of the world the overall picture is known to be similar.

These people represent the governance, the system and its approved guidelines promising stability and righteousness together with “golden middle way”.

So no matter how many people disagree with the system, at this point and through out last century or two there is no way to combat it and very few ways to opt out.
Coupled by the fact that people fail to realize the danger of systematic social traps.
Some jump the board only to be caught in “rescue nets” of cults or religious organisations. Very few have the strength to swim in the sea too long or “save themselves” at the end of the story.

The monster of the “old world” with its ancient hierarchies and wars is still lurking in people’s minds and actions like a dark shadow.

No these people don’t want a new better world unless it’s be a “world running accordingly” with their ideas alone and that’s where it all fails down sharply. Their morality, ethics, humanity, laws and love fall to pieces once they’re shown the truth and people not being stupid as they hoped for.

Eventually, people will self liberate themselves through education, thinking and sharing - it’s only natural it will happen. It takes time but it will.


The old games of “lords” and “pets” are being uncovered as we talk. They don’t concern some class or kind of people, they concern generations and generations of conditioned upbringing and conditioned love and virtue. The good looking models and mannequins of every society hiding in their looks.
“So sweet”. Behind the sweet looks you can’t trust anymore,
the good boy or girl take out knife and kill a grandpa because he is not worthy taking care of. Truly, some of these “best parents” bred a generation of “perfect bastards” who will do anything to domineer.

Think someone like Jared Kushner , and this is not personal. Maybe any other rich kid sitting there with super smart super sarcastic smile calling Julian Assange and any of us “piece of ****”. These kids aren’t better than their parents when it comes to talking dirty and playing dirty , after all : their tutors told them the aim of the game is to play them down too.

In short: we are against extremely powerful and dangerous game being played with us and it’s about time to wake up and stand straight, allow our own spiritual and mundane evolution to happen,


I may seem to be two steps ahead or two steps behind at all times but it’s really only two steps.

Everything else has already happened in the meantime, the most unpredictable events, customs and barriers broke down and elucidated, the dark caverns of this world accessed and explored,
here in India I’ve seen how much has changed during half generation -25 years- the change is exponential even if slow and incomplete -it goes actually, very fast.

I know I’m so tired of the “big fight” I could just die any day without regrets -and any next day won’t be much better than the previous. But the process of awakening is not lost, can’t be stopped for people even if it takes another 100 years ..

they will get there

[onawah]

I think Wikileaks and Assange have gotten much more of the public's attention as well as the elite's, and deliberately so, than Corbett or Project Camelot, and for that reason, I think he deserves Dennis's description and praise.
I wish to God some benevolent ETs really would transport him out of Belmarsh to someplace safe, though Trump should be put to work undoing the harm he's done instead of allowed to languish in prison.
Assange and his team surely knew how dangerous it could get, and yet have gone to great pains to get those very explosive truths out.
I agree that we all owe them a huge debt of gratitude.
All I've personally been able to do is post updates here on Avalon, keep them in my thoughts and send Assange love and appreciation, and I also wish Avalon would pay more attention to his plight.
We all need distractions from time to time from the overwhelming tragedies that are piling up around us more and more every day, but sooner or later, I think the full weight of what is happening will hit us all.
We can put it off, but once it hits, that's when the true test of courage really takes place-do we succumb, go back to sleep, or soldier on.

Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)

Posted by Justplain (here)
Dennis, please clarify the proof supporting this assertion:

"Do you think people are actually ignorant, and don't even realize that Assange has done the most of any human in history to expose the DS/NWO and their henchmen, you know, the bad guys?"

To me, Project Camelot's early years has done far more good than Julian Assange to expose the nwo, ssp, etc. Has assuage ever exposed anything about the ssp?

In fact, I'd cite the Corbett Report as more informative than WikiLeaks.

Even "confessions of an economic hitman" is more to the point than the mega-datadumps on WikiLeaks.

Just my two bits on your clickbate. 😁

Kerry Cassidy, Bill Ryan, James Corbett, and John Perkins are not in Belmarsh prison being tortured and enduring a kangaroo trial to be extradited to the USA to face 175 years in prison, for anything that they exposed, right?

[Gemma13]

Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)

Posted by rainsong (here)

Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)
So, why do you think so few members at Avalon seem to give a rat's ass about the one person (Julian Assange) that's actually the most dangerous to the "Shadow Government"/"Deep State"/"New World Order?"

Why do you think that is?

I guess I would have to ask why you think this? I don't post about him or on that thread. Does this mean I don't care? Of course not, but I don't usually post unless I feel I have something with contributing, and with Assange, I'm kinda out of my element so I just quietly follow.

So on what do you base your assumption?

I should be asleep, it's probably too late for me to be posting anything, but I found the assumption a bit harsh

It is a bit harsh (though I stated "so few", not "everyone", and said "it seems" because if people don't post anything or the "views" counter is relatively low compared to say, favorite music, then that is the way "it seems.") I'm astounded at the lack of overt support Assange has here at Avalon. Why aren't people hopping mad about what is happening to Assange, right now? This is important, and current, so it seems that Avalon members would be engaged. When people support Assange, maybe they could post their support publicly? Overt support adds up, quiet support is, well, invisible and silent. Members here offer opinions and/or express support for (or lack of support for) many other people, but not very much with Assange. It's very odd to me.

The opening assumption is unfounded. It implies that Avalon supporters that do not give thumbs up, smiley faces, likes and comments are not actively engaged, supportive and appreciative of "important" topics and the members who post on them that willingly give their time to keep us all up to speed.  No different to someone needing hundreds of facebook friends and then gets pissed off if no-one pushes an emoji button whenever they post.

With the volume of information available now threads can get long very quick so having to wade through endless repetitive comments of everyone saying the same thing seems practically fruitless to me.  And those that are sensitive because they think no one is paying them enough attention really need to learn to get over it.

Post because you value what you are sharing with the intention that it may help someone. Full stop.  I strongly predict Members that have the time to post, (briefly or regularly,) are helping loads of people but they'll never get to know about the majority of them.

I personally value Avalon Members that much that during my busy days of local activism it is my go to for news . . . the Assange thread being one of them.  And I assume there are many like me.  Far more that actually do give a "rat's arse" than the implication that Avalon members fall into one of your listed categories.

So I wouldn't worry about thinking it odd as odds are there's no odd to worry about.

[thepainterdoug]

Denis Leahy / I'm guilty as charged. i painted 100 whistleblowers as an art project of activism. Julien Assange was one of them . I did it and put it out there and it took hold and got attention in some arenas . And then I moved on to another creative endeavor.

Perhaps you could mention your way of participating in the support or care of Julien? Is there a procedure you could mention here that we could follow? An address to write, an organization that would hear those in support of him ? And list those things so that starting today we could act on.
Essentially, a what could be done list
We all fight different battles. But I appreciate you raising this because I as well am baffled by my own allowance to let the Julian issue go.
Just getting mad about it won't help. A path to an activism would be helpful. t y

[Baby Steps]

Since I have been sharing the odd item on social media, 3 or 4 friends have awoken to this, so it's worth doing, but most of the intelligent 'snowflakes' seem totally unconcerned!

And the Q crowd think he was offered a pardon and it's all an elaborate operation of some kind!

[Bill Ryan]

The thread title made me laugh... it definitely deserves a prize. (We could start a new thread applauding creative thread titles, but my concern is that it'd then get way out of hand. ) We'll probably change the thread title to something a little more sedate in a few days' time.

~~~

Back to topic, of course Avalonians care deeply about Julian Assange. That's a slam-dunk given. I suspect that the issue is that there's such a strong, clear consensus about the enormous injustice, that there's actually comparatively little to be discussed apart from to report new developments every now and then.

[thepainterdoug]

odd that this was sent to me today/ how the USA PLANNED TO KILL ASSANGE/ Galloway

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=-cge5cEhZhQ

[Dennis Leahy]

Posted by Gemma13 (here)
The opening assumption is unfounded. It implies that Avalon supporters that do not give thumbs up, smiley faces, likes and comments are not actively engaged, supportive and appreciative of "important" topics and the members who post on them that willingly give their time to keep us all up to speed. No different to someone needing hundreds of facebook friends and then gets pissed off if no-one pushes an emoji button whenever they post.

With the volume of information available now threads can get long very quick so having to wade through endless repetitive comments of everyone saying the same thing seems practically fruitless to me. And those that are sensitive because they think no one is paying them enough attention really need to learn to get over it.
...

I personally value Avalon Members that much that during my busy days of local activism it is my go to for news . . . the Assange thread being one of them. And I assume there are many like me. Far more that actually do give a "rat's arse" than the implication that Avalon members fall into one of your listed categories.

So I wouldn't worry about thinking it odd as odds are there's no odd to worry about.

I'm not interested in crossing swords with you. This isn't about me. If the shoe doesn't fit, don't wear it. So, you are interested in Assange as a topic. A simple public statement, "I support Assange.", has some power to influence; invisible and silent support doesn't.

[Dennis Leahy]

Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
Denis Leahy / I'm guilty as charged. i painted 100 whistleblowers as an art project of activism. Julien Assange was one of them . I did it and put it out there and it took hold and got attention in some arenas . And then I moved on to another creative endeavor.

Perhaps you could mention your way of participating in the support or care of Julien? Is there a procedure you could mention here that we could follow? An address to write, an organization that would hear those in support of him ? And list those things so that starting today we could act on.
Essentially, a what could be done list
We all fight different battles. But I appreciate you raising this because I as well am baffled by my own allowance to let the Julian issue go.
Just getting mad about it won't help. A path to an activism would be helpful. t y

Doug, you've already made it very clear that you support Assange and the entire milieu of whistleblowers! You used your skills, your talent, painting all those marvelous portraits of whistleblowers that so amazingly capture their spirit and bring them to life. You humble me with the amount of energy you have dedicated to this entire issue. Thank you so much, brother!

One of the tactics used by the people that persecute whistleblowers is to stretch out the time element to wear-down and wear out people (the whistleblowers themselves and their supporters.) It's very effective, because no one can stay "hopping mad" for months and even years, and there is the subtle programming towards helplessness as the calendar pages turn. A lot of time has elapsed in Assange's persecution. I think the evil bastards also know that if they do their dirty work, slowly, gradually or in short bursts of activity with periods of relative quiet between, that the full force of the evil doesn't garner the same impact on public perception. I cite Israel's slow-motion genocide and land grab of Palestine as a prime example of that tactic. Kill...wait...kill...wait...kill...wait... rather than Israel murdering all Palestinians and stealing all the rest of Palestine in one burst. Assange's persecution is in a "kill" phase now, so it seems to me that our attention, our raised voices, has more of a chance to alter public perception right now.

I don't have an answer for "what can we do?", but I'm convinced that we at least need to be public with our support. You are, "in spades."

[mountain_jim]

A simple public statement, "I support Assange.", has some power to influence; invisible and silent support doesn't.

I, a deep-state-awakening process supporter, strongly support Assange and consider what is still happening to him to be the strongest evidence, other than abject Israeli/possibly-Mossad control of his admin, against being positive about Trump and the military support he apparently receives.

On the other hand, I am so fatigued by your constant provoking posts implying that folks who support certain aspects of the cleanup of the national Democratic Party/MSM/CIA/FBI election meddling and coup attempt are blind to Assange, asleep, or otherwise unaware of the hidden hands behind the overall US and global political systems.

There have been several of these posts in the last week, the tone of which I did not appreciate.

For just one example of this Qanon process value (imo), Qanon researchers have managed to awaken large numbers of folks to works such as FRITZ SPRINGMEIER – BLOODLINES OF THE ILLUMINATI, Projects Monarch and MKUltra, and these powerful bloodline families behind so many world events and wars over our history.

Springmeier tells us that there are actually Thirteen Illuminati Bloodlines. They are:
The Astor Bloodline
The Bundy Bloodline
The Collins Bloodline
The DuPont Bloodline
The Freeman Bloodline
The Kennedy Bloodline
The Li Bloodline
The Onassis Bloodline
The Rockefeller Bloodline
The Rothschild Bloodline
The Russell Bloodline
The Van Duyn Bloodline
The Merovingian Bloodline

For an example of what I learned in this process, the (Merovingian) bloodline Payseur family and their historic, behind the scenes ownership and control of the Rockefellers, Vanderbilt's, etc.

Through this article I learned that I had been employed by companies in the American south that had been owned by this family, as almost all of the railroads, power companies, banks, were, mostly in secret with other families propped up as the public owners.

https://www.neonrevolt.com/2018/08/1...r-springmeier/

While I have gone off-topic the point for me is there is value in this spread of historical information as part of the Qanon movement, but Avalonians like me have gotten tired of being directly (Parasites!) or indirectly put down for having found value in the Trump admin corruption shake-up, and just don't bother to participate in many areas where constantly explaining or defending this position appears necessary.

I am certain things would be way worse if Clinton was in power, and I still have slight hopes that Trump can overcome his military backers and do the right thing for Assange, who he used to support. (I guess the firewall against learning the truth about 9/11 is way more unlikely to get breached).

In the long run progress and freedom is only going to happen once more and more shake off their programming and learn the available, horrible truths about what really happens in this world.

That is what The Great Awakening means to me, Assange has helped in that, but we are a long way from having the leverage ourselves to right these wrongs.