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    Default 911 rooftop footage of the twin towers collapse

    fairly newer more recent footage....There are some great scenes showing the collapse plus a closer look at the metal support structure turning to dust around 1 minute mark. Definitely supporting Dr. Judy Woods research and theory, also showing the dustification of the tower in the first collapse. Maybe one day Dr Judy Woods will be vindicated...


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    Default Re: 911 rooftop footage of the twin towers collapse

    Thanks, fresh perspectives are always useful. It's just such a damn shame that with so many videos you see of potentially significant footage like this, that just as the action kicks off either the focus suddenly shifts, the operator inexplicably pans away, or worst of all they zoom out, making the view less distinct rather than more distinct. Case in point, the dustification of the spire could have been captured really tight and sharp. Not his fault I guess, and not saying there's a conspiracy either, it's just frustratingly bad camera work.

    The shakiness is easily forgivable, given the horror he's witnessing.
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    Default Re: 911 rooftop footage of the twin towers collapse

    Quote Posted by mojo (here)
    fairly newer more recent footage....There are some great scenes showing the collapse plus a closer look at the metal support structure turning to dust around 1 minute mark. Definitely supporting Dr. Judy Woods research and theory, also showing the dustification of the tower in the first collapse. Maybe one day Dr Judy Woods will be vindicated...
    The footage was cut at 37 sec.

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    Default Re: 911 rooftop footage of the twin towers collapse

    For me, Building Six represents the best example of a directed energy weapon's destruction. The vertical bore holes are all you need to see.

    Here's a short video made by passionate Irish man doing his best to raise a red flag:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=509xQgcoMN8

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    Default Re: 911 rooftop footage of the twin towers collapse

    In the first 20 seconds of this video you can clearly see that this is not a building 'dustifying' but a complete collapse. You can see the top 30-40 floors of the building tilt and then begin falling in a straight line as would be expected due to gravity. There are clouds of debris and tons of larger pieces of the building that begin to fall away from the main structure. The big pieces of debris is easily seen falling significantly faster than the core structure which means the building is definitely not falling at free fall speed.

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    The collapse begins 1 or 2 seconds after the video begins.

    At about the 10 second mark you can see what appears to be a large corner of the building (possibly the 40 story chunk that tilts and falls at the start) at about the height of the building with the green spire in front. This is not even half way down so things are clearly not falling at free fall speed.

    At roughly the 17 second mark you see another corner of the building break away and fall towards the camera and to the right. This appears to be about 2/3 of the way down, So things are very clearly not falling at free fall speed. This is already 5-6 seconds past the point where it all should be on the ground if it fell at free fall speed.

    At about the 24 second mark, you can see a piece of the structure, just to the right of the building with the green spire, give way and fall straight down. More evidence of an asymmetrical collapse which disproves the controlled demolition theory as this is the WORST controlled demolition in the history of demolitions.

    From the angle of the video you can see some debris is falling towards the camera and billowing away from the footprint and begins striking the other tower. The cloud of debris and the shrapnel spraying from the collapse is already a hundred or so metres from the footprint. This is all backed up by the acknowledged fact that dozens of buildings all around the WTC towers were damaged. The building obviously does not fall into it's own footprint or collapse onto itself.

    The collapse of the first tower appears to end about 25-30 seconds into the video. A seismic reading at a New York University captured geiger counter readings which rumbled for over 21 seconds and is generally accepted to be the recordings of the collapse. This is all backed up by the evidence on this video and all the others as well. This means the buildings definitely did not fall at free fall speed. This is virtually indisputable if common sense and a collection of the evidence is used together.

    The 2nd towers' collapse is captured after it has already begun so it is harder to time things. But at roughly the 42 seconds mark of the video we can see a tall antenna in the background of the tower, in front of this antenna we can see a piece of the structure snap off and fall to the right. This is more evidence of an extremely poor demolition but is actually more likely evidence of an asymmetrical collapse where a piece of the structure is not torn down as the tower is collapsing slightly to the left. (Which makes sense because that is the side that was damaged from the collapse of the 1st tower.)

    The 2nd collapse appears to start in the video at about 39 seconds but it is clearly well into the collapse as it is already below the building with the green spire in the forefront. It still doesn't appear to hit the ground until roughly the 50 second mark of the video. This is more evidence that the collapse doesn't happen at free fall speed.

    The rest of the video is just people freaking out and the cloud of dust spreading away from the collapse.

    End of summary...

    Regarding all the dust... there were hundreds of thousands of pounds of concrete, drywall and other materials that made up the floors and walls inside the tower. What else would you expect to see from the destruction of this much material as it is crushed, pulverized and demolished as it is falling to the ground? This is just normal. The cloud spreads for dozens of blocks and buried New York City in a blanket of dust. Please realize that there were massive (3-5 stories high) chunks of concrete and steel left over that had to be cut and broken up before being hauled away right? This is not 'dustification'.

    Even though I believe the collapse was just a collapse as a result of the massive damage from the impacts of the planes, I still believe there was insider knowledge and cooperation at multiple levels of government. So I am still in the camp that there is a conspiracy here but not in the camp of the 'controlled demolition' people or the even less likely 'directed energy weapon/dustification' people. There is still a major conspiracy at play in the events of 9-11. This other stuff just discredits the movement.

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    What I see is a building being demolished from the top down. The debris is falling away from the building, but it is greatly obscured by the DUST cloud that is being generated.

    As for roof top footage, here's a very clear overhead shot of the roof of Building Six. The bore holes go right to the bottom. SOMETHING has bored out the centre of this gigantic building:

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    The holes that stop at the interior edges of the walls are all of similar diameter, thus giving rise to the hypothesis that the same weapon was used, repeatedly, to remove the material. The vast majority of material that used to be in the centre of this building is simply GONE - there is no debris pile. It has just VANISHED. No fuss, no muss, no dust. How is this possible?

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    Quote Posted by Fellow Aspirant (here)
    What I see is a building being demolished from the top down. The debris is falling away from the building, but it is greatly obscured by the DUST cloud that is being generated.

    As for roof top footage, here's a very clear overhead shot of the roof of Building Six. The bore holes go right to the bottom. SOMETHING has bored out the centre of this gigantic building:

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    The holes that stop at the interior edges of the walls are all of similar diameter, thus giving rise to the hypothesis that the same weapon was used, repeatedly, to remove the material. The vast majority of material that used to be in the centre of this building is simply GONE - there is no debris pile. It has just VANISHED. No fuss, no muss, no dust. How is this possible?

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    I see a building being demolished from about 40 stories from the top down. It's hard to deny as there are many videos and photographs which clearly show the upper portion of the building tilting and then collapsing down into the tower below it. Imagine the weight and force from that fall. No building is engineered to withstand that kind of dynamic force. Instead they are designed to withstand the static weight of the structure above it.

    What I see in this photo is a building which sat directly next to the North Tower and basically had sustained massive damage from a falling tower. Building 6 was an 8 story building so why would we need some futuristic never heard of weapon to bring it down?

    Here is a higher resolution shot with the entire satellite shot



    If you look at this photo you can see recognizable pieces of the North tower just to the left and inside the hole you point out in the building that is claimed to have been 'bored out' by some type of energy weapon. How did they get the energy weapon to stop and leave some of the basement floors? Why use this technology on such a small building which would need to be demolished anyways? You can also see on the right of building 6 is building 7 (collapsed and on the ground) which we know sustained damage from the falling North tower, that means that debris from the North tower fell over top of building 6 and struck tower 7.

    Perhaps you are seeing a shot of damage sustained from a massive building falling 1300 ft. I have never seen a blueprint for building 6 but the interior might have been hollow like a lot of office towers with a open space in the middle and offices in a ring around the hollow. Either way, I would want to see proof that such a weapon truly exists and functions in this way before I can jump to the conclusion that it was used in the 9/11 attacks.

    There are other buildings around the damage that show huge holes in them too. You can see damage to the left and above the North tower on buildings. Isn't it far more likely that building 6 was collateral damage to the collapse?

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    Am i the only one that i can see the giant bright white orb emitting thing that has lightbeam things facing the building?

    Start of the video, at around 3secs. You see a beam of light coming in from out of frame, top left-ish. As the camera man pan's down a bit you can see the "orb" of light clearly. IT moves down into the smoke and disappears from view. Cant see in the 2nd one as it would probably start at the top and move down as the building fell, but they jumped forward to when it was already falling.

    No?? Anyone??? Is that the only video it's in?

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    What I see in this photo is a building which sat directly next to the North Tower and basically had sustained massive damage from a falling tower. Building 6 was an 8 story building so why would we need some futuristic never heard of weapon to bring it down?

    1. There was no debris of any significant mass from either of the towers that fell onto Building Six. There were some pieces of aluminum cladding - the weight of garden shed roofing. If you can find a picture of this happening, I'll eat my shorts. (and believe me, my shorts are definitely not appetizing ) The buildings fell within their own footprints. Where did the material go?

    2. There are pictures of a sandy coloured plume of dust rising from Building Six, but it happened simultaneously with the collapse of the tower beside it.

    3. What "debris" could be circular and weigh catastrophically on the center of the building, but leave no trace of its existence on the rest of the roof? And why were the outside walls intact?

    4. Why bore to the center of the earth? If you have such otherworldly technology, you presumably have the control to set its depth of projection.

    5. Why demolish it? To demonstrate the power of the weapons at your disposal.

    6. The interior was not hollow, but it was hollowed out, as the pics below shows very clearly:

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    Note the exposed ends of the steel I-beams that have sheared off and are hanging into space. You can make the pics very large by clicking on them.

    So where did all that stuff go?

    Lastly, there's a thermal image pic that dramatically shows how deep the holes were at both sites.

    Dr. Judy Wood has devoted a whole page to the "holes", link here:

    http://drjudywood.com/articles/DEW/StarWarsBeam4.html

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    Quote Start of the video, at around 3secs. You see a beam of light coming in from out of frame, top left-ish.
    interesting, I used youtube settings and slowed that section down 1/2 speed and you can hear a bang sound at that moment...

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    Am i the only one that i can see the giant bright white orb emitting thing that has lightbeam things facing the building?

    Start of the video, at around 3secs. You see a beam of light coming in from out of frame, top left-ish. As the camera man pan's down a bit you can see the "orb" of light clearly. IT moves down into the smoke and disappears from view. Cant see in the 2nd one as it would probably start at the top and move down as the building fell, but they jumped forward to when it was already falling.

    No?? Anyone??? Is that the only video it's in?

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    I'm not seeing this orb or beam of light phenomenon. What I think it is, is the top corner of the cladding catching the sunlight as it begins to tilt/drop.

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    Default Re: 911 rooftop footage of the twin towers collapse

    I suspect who ever planted the explosives or was involved in this plot are already dead by now. When you serve the devil with treachery it will pay you and yours with the same.

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    WOW! Great find, TigaHawk!

    Now that you have pointed it out, yes, I certainly DO see the light beam. And it's being emitted by a huge 'structure' that may be a craft of some sort. The illuminated underside shows it to have the flat bottom of a typical 'saucer'. And it's at least the width of the building. Furthermore, it descends at the same rate as the building is falling, projecting its beam into the corner of the tower. It's all too soon obscured by the gray dust cloud.

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    Am I the only one that i can see the giant bright white orb emitting thing that has lightbeam things facing the building?

    Start of the video, at around 3secs. You see a beam of light coming in from out of frame, top left-ish. As the camera man pan's down a bit you can see the "orb" of light clearly. IT moves down into the smoke and disappears from view. Cant see in the 2nd one as it would probably start at the top and move down as the building fell, but they jumped forward to when it was already falling.

    No?? Anyone??? Is that the only video it's in?



    This is a very significant finding. Like you, I wonder if it can be seen in any other videos.

    Take a look, folks!

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    Quote Posted by Fellow Aspirant (here)
    1. There was no debris of any significant mass from either of the towers that fell onto Building Six. There were some pieces of aluminum cladding - the weight of garden shed roofing. If you can find a picture of this happening, I'll eat my shorts. (and believe me, my shorts are definitely not appetizing ) The buildings fell within their own footprints. Where did the material go?

    2. There are pictures of a sandy coloured plume of dust rising from Building Six, but it happened simultaneously with the collapse of the tower beside it.

    3. What "debris" could be circular and weigh catastrophically on the center of the building, but leave no trace of its existence on the rest of the roof? And why were the outside walls intact?

    4. Why bore to the center of the earth? If you have such otherworldly technology, you presumably have the control to set its depth of projection.

    5. Why demolish it? To demonstrate the power of the weapons at your disposal.

    6. The interior was not hollow, but it was hollowed out, as the pics below shows very clearly:

    Note the exposed ends of the steel I-beams that have sheared off and are hanging into space. You can make the pics very large by clicking on them.

    So where did all that stuff go?

    Lastly, there's a thermal image pic that dramatically shows how deep the holes were at both sites.
    1. You asked for a picture showing debris from the North Tower inside of Building 6. In the caption it specifically states that this believed to be from the North tower, exactly as I assumed. I can't imagine how debris could not have fallen into building 6 if it fell across the street and hit Building 7.

    Here is the link to my source

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_World_Trade_Center



    In this image you can see the famous cross that was erected by some of the workers in the aftermath of the attacks. The cross is now a monument at the new building. This is a massive steel structural girder that must weigh many tons. Who knows how far it fell but the laws of physics tell us that if it fell from high enough it would cause an incredible amount of damage. Here is a photo of the cross.



    The Cross is 17 feet tall and is believed to be from the World Trade Centers buildings because they used prefabricated cross beams during the construction. In the 1st photo I provided you can see other larger pieces of structural steel which does not look consistent with the exposed much smaller structural beams of Building 6. Imagine the sheer destructive force of these steel beams if they fell from 200 feet! Now, imagine the force from 500 feet! Okay, now imagine the force from 1000 feet!!! Who knows how far they fell but the destruction their impact would cause would be impressive.

    2. I have seen the photos and videos of the plume of smoke you refer to. I am not sure what is the cause. There was a lot of stuff going on that day. There was debris from the initial impact of the planes. There were reports of fires on the ground from fire crews and policemen. White smoke is not consistent with burning buildings but I really don't know.

    3. The hole in the top of the building is kind of circular but not really. There are tons of photos of debris all over and around the building a catastrophic damage to the outer walls as well. Look at the 1st picture I posted above. Here are just a couple more for your consideration. This first one shows the outer walls and roof structure littered with debris from the falling building and massive damage to the structure.



    This one show debris all over the roof and all over the rooftops of every surrounding building.






    Further evidence that the buildings DID NOT fall straight into their footprints but cascaded debris all around them as they fell.



    This photo is either from the debris that rained down when the planes hit or was just prior to the complete collapse of one of the towers.

    4. I asked you to provide proof that the weapon exists not to speculate on how it works.

    5. If this hypothetical weapon was used to bring down the 2 largest buidlings in NYC... then why bother bringing down the shortest building in the complex? It really makes no sense.

    6. Where can you see that the interior was not hollow? I was unable to find a picture of the interior of the building prior to the attacks. Either way the kinetic force of the massive steel beams that are shown in the photos above would be more than sufficient to make a massive hole in this small office building. I do note that the beams are sheered off and hanging. What proof do you have that they were sheared off by anything other than a 130 story building collapsing directly next to it? The beams are all hanging because of gravity I would presume.

    The holes might be deeper than ground level because of the underground garages and the basement levels of this short building. This is clearly described in this article...

    https://mpoverello.com/tag/6-world-trade-center/

    In this article above, in the 3rd paragraph, it also mentions the "plaza level" that the underground levels are below. A "plaza" is an open space which supports my assumption that there was an open area inside this building. It is likely there was a large hollow area in the building.

    Interestingly, the article also mentions an explosion that shook the building before the 2 towers collapsed. It even mentions the plume of smoke but does not offer an explanation of what caused the explosion.

    I have done my research but still...

    Please do not eat your shorts. They are probably not good for you.
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    Default Re: 911 rooftop footage of the twin towers collapse

    Hi Karma (not often I get to use that salutation. )

    1. There was no debris of any significant mass from either of the towers that fell onto Building Six. There were some pieces of aluminum cladding - the weight of garden shed roofing. If you can find a picture of this happening, I'll eat my shorts.

    I stand by this assertion. Any of the debris within the building, at least any of the heavy I-beams, are from Building Six. I have yet to see anything of this size flying through the air and coming down anywhere near Building Six. I see a lot of "Wheatchex" (Dr. Judy's term) from the outside of one of the buildings, but it's part of the very lightweight facade.

    As for not being able to see circular holes, perhaps you were looking for complete holes. I'm referring to circle shaped holes (semi-circles?) on the periphery of the main hole. These semi-circles are not complete in their circumference, because they are at the outer limits of the damage - the missing part of their side is now part of the main hole. So you have to look at what is remaining - and that is a series of semi-circular holes, where the weapon was stopped and did not overlap another hole onto them. They exist because the beam was not employed to destroy the entire structure.

    OOPS. I apolgize for the technical incompetence. I have to figure out how to post WordPerfect images. Then you'll see. You'll see how terrific they are. They'll be great. I promise. You'll see. Believe me.

    My claims (and my shorts) remain intact.

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    Quote Posted by Fellow Aspirant (here)
    Hi Karma (not often I get to use that salutation. )

    1. There was no debris of any significant mass from either of the towers that fell onto Building Six. There were some pieces of aluminum cladding - the weight of garden shed roofing. If you can find a picture of this happening, I'll eat my shorts.

    I stand by this assertion. Any of the debris within the building, at least any of the heavy I-beams, are from Building Six. I have yet to see anything of this size flying through the air and coming down anywhere near Building Six. I see a lot of "Wheatchex" (Dr. Judy's term) from the outside of one of the buildings, but it's part of the very lightweight facade.

    As for not being able to see circular holes, perhaps you were looking for complete holes. I'm referring to circle shaped holes (semi-circles?) on the periphery of the main hole. These semi-circles are not complete in their circumference, because they are at the outer limits of the damage - the missing part of their side is now part of the main hole. So you have to look at what is remaining - and that is a series of semi-circular holes, where the weapon was stopped and did not overlap another hole onto them. They exist because the beam was not employed to destroy the entire structure.

    My claims (and my shorts) remain intact.

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    Have look at this picture below again. Right click on the photo and choose "View Image" from the list. This will allow you to zoom in and see the debris from the 2 towers on top of ALL of the adjacent buildings. Even some of the rooftops of buildings several BLOCKS away have debris on them. It is a LARGE High Definition image. This is not photoshopped and is further supported by literally THOUSANDS of other pictures taken by reporters, professional amateur photographers and people snapping camera phones and video's. There are mountains of photos that support what I am saying. In my opinion, the evidence is overwhelming. You are not looking if you say you have
    Quote yet to see anything of this size flying through the air and coming down anywhere near Building Six
    Here is a list of some of the buildings which were demolished as a result of the attacks in NYC.

    North Tower (WTC1)
    South Tower (WTC2)
    Marriott Hotel (WTC3)
    WTC4
    WTC5
    US Customs House (WTC6)
    WTC7
    St. Nicholas Greek Orthodox Church
    Deutsche Bank Building (130 Liberty Street)
    Fiterman Hall (30 West Broadway)
    4 Albany Street
    130 Cedar Street
    133-135 Greenwich Street
    21-23 Thames Street

    That is 14 buildings completely demolished.

    According to this article

    http://www.nytimes.com/2002/02/12/ny...ound-zero.html

    45 buildings damaged. FORTY-FIVE!!! It seems impossible to believe that the 8 story building next to it was not damaged.




    I provided a picture of massive chunks of building (several stories tall!) and you still say you have not seen
    Quote debris of any significant mass from either of the towers
    that could have hit the building right next to the North tower?

    Here is a photo of debris several stories high on the ground with workers on the ground to assist with perspective.



    Check out this photo of buildings damaged on September 11th and tell me you don't see significant damage to the surrounding buildings and/or large chunks of debris.



    Are you sure nothing significant fell on this building?



    See anything big in this photo? Why are those guys using welding torches to cut through 1-2 foot square solid steel beams? Are they not solid?



    If you still don't believe it than I don't know what to say. I have provided you with all the proof I can bother to muster.

    Peace brother and best of luck in your investigations

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    Quote Posted by Fellow Aspirant (here)
    OOPS. I apolgize for the technical incompetence. I have to figure out how to post WordPerfect images. Then you'll see. You'll see how terrific they are. They'll be great. I promise. You'll see. Believe me.

    My claims (and my shorts) remain intact.

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    Hi Brian,

    This is the best I could do given the quality of the photos. Transferring images into a document may have contributed to a loss of quality. My suggestion would be rather than making a document file, create a ‘jpg’ like the post above. Also the size pics are only 22 KB, which means if you tried to enlarge them, they'd become blurred. See enlarged example below.




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    Default Re: 911 rooftop footage of the twin towers collapse

    Thank you everyone for the pictures. Each time I see it my heart sinks. Two things I wish to remark on. I saw a video/youtube? some years back, I do not know if anyone here was able to see it of a team of firefighters talking. They each spoke of a different view of the towers. They saw/witnessed the towers coming down, hearing a charge go off with each floor they could hear from ground level. They said it was definitely a planted demolition, they knew it with certainty.

    My other remark, was I actually met a woman who survived the towers. She was from the Caribbean, visiting California years after serious PTSD, and was a guest of one of our patients at her Church. I spoke with the woman and she told me her story. She prefaced it with I could not tell this story years ago, but I have had therapy and now the ability to speak out. Evidently, she was speaking to a ministry of women, which was the reason for the visit on the West Coast.
    She said some time before the towers went down, her mother was visiting her and they were at ground level looking up. Her mother said, do you know where the emergency exits are? The woman was puzzled but told her she would make an effort to find out for sure, since the employees always took the elevator. Here is where it gets spooky. The woman I spoke to said she always wore high heels to work every day. But for some reason, the day of 9-11, she decided to put on tennis shoes. She called it a God thing. When the towers were struck, she saw the white beam of light, took off down the emergency stairs and grabbed who ever was along the way until she made it down and the entire journey was a nightmare. She never thought she would live. But she did.

    I carry that emotional story with me, and believe me, if anything motivates my mo jo when thing look dim, that does.
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    Default Re: 911 rooftop footage of the twin towers collapse

    hi bettye198,
    check out this short clip with loud sounds...In reading Dr Woods book the collapsing pancake theory doesnt hold water because of the short time in which the building came down about free-fall timing or less so that means it could not have come down like pancakes...turn up the volume and to hear them,,,

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    Default Re: 911 rooftop footage of the twin towers collapse

    With all respect due karma ninja, neither the conventional use of explosives for a controlled demolition (WTC 7) nor the use of some conventional explosives, coupled with "unconventional" explosives or high energy weapons (WTC 1 and 2) have been disproved, just as the official explanation of the cause of the destruction of these buildings on 9/11/2001 has not been proved. It has only been stated, not proved.

    Neither the official nor alternative theories have been put through the rigors of evidence, proof and truth-finding via qualified and reliable expert testimony, under direct examination and cross examination. See, e.g., http://www.journalof911studies.com/r...eyVol40Mar.pdf.

    After my many years of study of much of the available evidence (and that is an important qualification in light of the spoliation of much evidence immediately following 9/11 (something bin laden could not have carried out)), I have reasonably concluded that there is no way on this planet Earth that jet fuel (kerosene) coupled with relatively moderate plane impact damage caused WTC 1 and 2 to be destroyed in the manner that was observed on 9/11/2001. Nor did relatively minor fires in WTC 7 cause it to collapse at 5:20 p.m on 9/11/2001.

    The official explanation of the causes of destruction of these buildings is unprecedented and defies all laws of physics known to mankind.
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