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    Default The Matrix. Are we in one? If so, how do we get out

    Are we in a matrix?
    If so, what is it?
    If we are in a matrix, do we get out? If we want to get out, how do we do it?

    I'm sure we are in a matrix, a multidimensional hack, preventing Gaia and humans from experiencing and downloading incredible creative informational fields to create and find new potentials and solutions.

    I do want to get out, though I see it as a matter of dissolving the matrix, an outshining from grounding in high vibrations for ourselves and Gaia.

    We can start grounding in those high vibes by being kind to one another, the practice of detachment and mindfulness. Gratitude being a big one to increase those vibrations.

    But what do you feel?

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    Default Re: The Matrix. Are we in one? If so, how do we get out

    I feel if we escape all we actually do is move to the next level in a never ending layer effect. Vaguely reminds me of a movie that had a young Australian star and Morpheus and all i can remember is the young lad was a cripple but ends up with strange legs in an artificial reality out in space?

    If time is only a 3D construct i am now afraid what we have now will last forever as we struggle to break free, then again i am swept up in the sea of negativity currently enveloping the planet so what do i know?

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    Default Re: The Matrix. Are we in one? If so, how do we get out

    We can only get out together because that is how we got into this mess in the first place - together.
    Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless — like water...Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend. Bruce Lee

    Free will can only be as free as the mind that conceives it.

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    Default Re: The Matrix. Are we in one? If so, how do we get out

    Thank you Graig & Ernie Nemeth for your posts.
    I do feel there are many dimensional layers to this matrix. It's tiring to think about that.
    I also feel, we can as individuals with a group intent, change this matrix.
    The matrix needs a ton of negativity as a glue to hold it in place and a huge level of manipulation to keep it together. What if we could outshine that? What if that is possible?
    If it is a hack, can we move our consciousness above the hack?
    These are troubling times but I do, despite all appearances to the contrary feel a shift within the matrix to the positive. There have always been hidden manipulations to keep us distracted, particularly at the moment, but the positivity is here. Can people feel it?
    If you can feel it, how do we tap into it and use it to our advantage?
    Or do we just carry on, making the best of it all, as best we can?

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    Default Re: The Matrix. Are we in one? If so, how do we get out

    The day the draft was instigated in Canada for the invasion of Nazi held Europe, groups of friends joined up together and were promised they would fight alongside one another. Many, many young men signed up that first week. That is how I remember the story, anyway.

    That is how a tide of sentiment rushes over a peoples - all of a sudden. That is a grass roots upswell.

    That is what is going to happen this time too.

    No worries.
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    Free will can only be as free as the mind that conceives it.

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    Default Re: The Matrix. Are we in one? If so, how do we get out

    I have heard it said and thought it thru many times that all is as it should be. Its a hard thing in a sense to understand. Most of us are fixers, fixers of the world around us. yet this seems impossible. we have soul plans and life paths. we agreed to them prior to our incarnation here. there is much evidence to this, perhaps even more than that we are in a matrix.

    if we are in a matrix , it is what it is and perhaps we are supposed to be in it. should it even be possible to discover, and break free of it, then what? what would we be in then? sort of like fish in a tank, and one fish discovers they are in water, and so decide to escape it. then what? nothing is permanent here, so it will all pass anyway. so my intuition tells me, to live my life out mind full off all these thoughts as I move along.
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    Quote Posted by Zirconian (here)
    Are we in a matrix?
    If so, what is it?
    If we are in a matrix, do we get out? If we want to get out, how do we do it?

    I'm sure we are in a matrix, a multidimensional hack, preventing Gaia and humans from experiencing and downloading incredible creative informational fields to create and find new potentials and solutions.

    I do want to get out, though I see it as a matter of dissolving the matrix, an outshining from grounding in high vibrations for ourselves and Gaia.

    We can start grounding in those high vibes by being kind to one another, the practice of detachment and mindfulness. Gratitude being a big one to increase those vibrations.

    But what do you feel?
    My experience is that we don't really really know we are in a matrix until we wake up out of it. The Matrix film comes to mind where people are plugged into the Matrix literally through the back of the neck and once the plug is removed they are jolted fully awake.
    For me the Matrix is a place where life is lived on the surface from the interface of me as the personality, the character, my beliefs, my memories and my emotions, my mind, Me central. Dislodging that interface into a "not me" central is key to waking up out of it. An open flowing heart energy helps as does no mind. If thinking is stilled then something else then becomes present. An intelligence far beyond thinking emerges and flows powerfully through the body. This energy opens up all that is "not matrix" and allows a new (yet ancient) interaction with life depending upon how receptive and open we are. This openness can come in stages and is forever growing and expanding. This is essentially already in everyone. It is and always has been a choice of the "Me central" or the dissolving of it.

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    Default Re: The Matrix. Are we in one? If so, how do we get out

    Why do you want to escape this reality though? If you have clear, indisputable proof that this is a prison reality then I could understand the want to try and escape, though how would you know there isn't a higher purpose for you being in this prison reality that our current 3D consciousness can't understand? I don't feel like that is the case though - life has plenty of hardships and seeing the exploitation and brutality around the world is draining, nobody can argue that. I remember when I first starting seeing past the BS it had a profoundly objectively negative emotional effect on me - it wasn't a fun period for me. I did come out of that experience wiser and stronger, so as difficult as that period was I'm glad I went through it. If I were to look at the micro (only that period) it was awful, but looking at the bigger picture "suffering" through helped me grow.

    Ultimately I think that's what this reality is - we're in school (kindergarten even) to help us grow. If we focus on the micro (one lifetime here on Earth) you may want to escape, but in the macro (our Soul development) we are meant to go through pleasant and unpleasant experiences. I do think it is important not be passive/apathetic and "go with the flow" striving to explore, learn, and grow spiritually has a huge positive effect on us and helps us touch base with our higher selves and recharge our batteries.

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    Default Re: The Matrix. Are we in one? If so, how do we get out

    We are in the University for the evolution of consciousness.
    Nobody --nothing, is doing anything to us.
    The way out is inward.
    Wear the world like a loose garment.
    Be still and know That I Am.
    What else do you need to know?
    All the rest is mind stuff about an illusion.

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    Quote Posted by Libico (here)
    I do think it is important not be passive/apathetic and "go with the flow" striving to explore, learn, and grow spiritually has a huge positive effect on us and helps us touch base with our higher selves and recharge our batteries.
    Accepting this reality for what it is without fighting against it can be an important tool. Finding the right tools within to transmute what we see as dark energies is vital. I have recently come across a few young children with abilities to transmute and empower any situation with heart energy..full on bliss feel that makes the room melt into peace and unconditional love. They do not need to be taught how..this is innate in them. We all have this but in varying degrees have closed ourselves off. Its incredible to watch a difficult tense situation melt into a meeting of solutions and new ideas. On the other extreme I have neighbours fighting over noise levels and all the arguments and shouting and warring has done nothing whatsoever to find a solution. What we hold within can change the world. Either way.

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    Quote Posted by greybeard (here)
    We are in the University for the evolution of consciousness.
    Nobody --nothing, is doing anything to us.
    Totally disagreed.

    Quote The way out is inward.
    Totally agreed!

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    Quote Posted by greybeard (here)
    We are in the University for the evolution of consciousness.
    Nobody --nothing, is doing anything to us.
    The way out is inward.
    Wear the world like a loose garment.
    Be still and know That I Am.
    What else do you need to know?
    All the rest is mind stuff about an illusion.

    Chris
    It may be an illusion Chris but it is an Illusion that has to be taken seriously. We wake up and we sleep in it and we have our daily interactions in it. Saying it is all an illusion can trip people into not bothering because it is an illusion. Dealing with it means grounding thoroughly into the physical and also grounding in the Source energy and from there putting all that into daily actions of kindness, heart felt actions etc. The children I have come across deal with a situation by energetically changing things. They have incredible grounding and the unconditional love energy of Source. They bring it through and into this reality. That is knowing it is all an illusion of energetic perspective only as well as bringing through something that changes it all into a deep truth in the way it is dealt with. That for me is the way forward. This energy is available to all. The old saying of washing dishes, scrubbing floors, enlightenment, washing dishes , scrubbing floors holds true. Any amount of awakening still leaves us here in the "illusion"..but in a totally new way of dealing with challenges and all that life throws at us.
    Trisher

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    Quote Posted by Trisher (here)
    Quote Posted by greybeard (here)
    We are in the University for the evolution of consciousness.
    Nobody --nothing, is doing anything to us.
    The way out is inward.
    Wear the world like a loose garment.
    Be still and know That I Am.
    What else do you need to know?
    All the rest is mind stuff about an illusion.

    Chris
    It may be an illusion Chris but it is an Illusion that has to be taken seriously. We wake up and we sleep in it and we have our daily interactions in it. Saying it is all an illusion can trip people into not bothering because it is an illusion. Dealing with it means grounding thoroughly into the physical and also grounding in the Source energy and from there putting all that into daily actions of kindness, heart felt actions etc. The children I have come across deal with a situation by energetically changing things. They have incredible grounding and the unconditional love energy of Source. They bring it through and into this reality. That is knowing it is all an illusion of energetic perspective only as well as bringing through something that changes it all into a deep truth in the way it is dealt with. That for me is the way forward. This energy is available to all. The old saying of washing dishes, scrubbing floors, enlightenment, washing dishes , scrubbing floors holds true. Any amount of awakening still leaves us here in the "illusion"..but in a totally new way of dealing with challenges and all that life throws at us.
    Trisher
    Yes but when you get out of mind stuff right action happens spontaneously.
    An illusion is not unreal it just means its not what it appears to be.
    Thats the trouble with me giving a short answer with out the context of in depth spirituality.

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    Default Re: The Matrix. Are we in one? If so, how do we get out

    I recall reading several scources over the years alluding to we are in a altered hierarchical system. Some kind of hijacking the previous system and compressing it's natural sequences of growth into the fourth dimension. Recycling our souls with an altered agenda.

    Unfortunately, I cannot remember where I read some of them as it would have been over ten years ago.

    The WingMakers 5th Interview did indeed put forward similar concepts. Although I did not like the whole way the Wingmakers came into existance and put their message out, there was some very thought provoking information.


    Quote The conscious mind of the individual is heavily influenced by the genetic mind, especially between birth and the age of seven or eight. By that time the influence is all-encompassing.

    Remember that the Anunnaki created the biological form ”the body", the Sirians created the functional implants, and Marduk executed the programming of these functional implants so they would evolve along a programmed path, leading to the return of Anu. This was expressed in the hierarchal structure of humanity that speaks of god and masters in religious and esoteric texts.

    This was all part of the design, to create various religions and esoteric cults that would
    support a vast Hierarchy and order the human species into masterstudent relationships, and then create a multi-leveled afterlife that would reward those who believed and were obedient to their god or masters.

    You see, the whole principle that was behind this entire endeavor could be summed up in one word: separation. Everything exists in separation within the earth plane and its afterlife planes as well. But, according to the WingMakers, what is real is that we are all imbued with equality and oneness, not through the unconscious mind, which only links us in separation, but rather through the life essence that is us. And this life essence is sovereign and integral.
    Quote The sober reality is that after you die, the being inside you is met by a guardian who will take you to your destination, based mostly on your deeds in this life. However, most beings are taken to a life review where you face your life in every detail, and based on that experience an authoritative figure will prescribe your next life options for reincarnation. You are essentially recycled into the same program with a new mother and family, and a programmed life path is laid out for you to follow.

    The afterlife program and process is all part of the master program to retain the enslavement of the beings. Remember, "interdimensional beings” meaning we exist in 3-D and the higher planes. It's just that these higher planes are designed by the Anunnaki. They are not of the real dimensional planes. Otherwise,we would die discover who we really are, and we would never reincarnate or if we did, we would tell everyone on earth that this is all an illusion.
    Maybe that hijacked reality is a matrix designed by beings that want it this way, wheather that is all part of a test for us to figure it out I don't know

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    Quote Posted by Trisher (here)
    Quote Posted by greybeard (here)
    We are in the University for the evolution of consciousness.
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    The way out is inward.
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    Be still and know That I Am.
    What else do you need to know?
    All the rest is mind stuff about an illusion.

    Chris
    It may be an illusion Chris but it is an Illusion that has to be taken seriously. We wake up and we sleep in it and we have our daily interactions in it. Saying it is all an illusion can trip people into not bothering because it is an illusion. Dealing with it means grounding thoroughly into the physical and also grounding in the Source energy and from there putting all that into daily actions of kindness, heart felt actions etc. The children I have come across deal with a situation by energetically changing things. They have incredible grounding and the unconditional love energy of Source. They bring it through and into this reality. That is knowing it is all an illusion of energetic perspective only as well as bringing through something that changes it all into a deep truth in the way it is dealt with. That for me is the way forward. This energy is available to all. The old saying of washing dishes, scrubbing floors, enlightenment, washing dishes , scrubbing floors holds true. Any amount of awakening still leaves us here in the "illusion"..but in a totally new way of dealing with challenges and all that life throws at us.
    Trisher
    Yes but when you get out of mind stuff right action happens spontaneously.
    An illusion is not unreal it just means its not what it appears to be.
    Thats the trouble with me giving a short answer with out the context of in depth spirituality.

    Chris
    Yes Chris I agree that no mind ( and a fully open heart) can make for spontaneous good action. Anyone in that state would know it is a serious illusion, a game to be played. Those that have not come into that state and are curious may need a pointer or two. Those that have found no mind may also require a pointer or two. We are not given a handout on the rules of the game at any stage unfortunately and there are no cheat moves or shortcuts to be found anywhere. It is simplicity itself but appears complicated if the mind is engaged in the search. Once in that state then that is only the beginning. I marvel at what these new children will bring through having started life with full use and knowing of how to deal with things in such a powerful and yet simple energetic way. They are clearly high vibrational and using innate and spontaneous methods to raise all around them to a resounding Wow. They are a gift and a way forward.
    Apart from the ones I have met there is one I found on the internet. Christina Von Dreien. She is on Youtube. Mostly in German but also some things in English. She has written a book on how to's and her mother has written two books in which she speaks of Christina's amazing life. These are available in German, English and French. An amazing young teen living the new energetic way and showing others how to push boundaries. If there is or if there is not a matrix this is still the way forward and beyond whatever our perception of life and reality is...should we make the freewill choice to venture that bit further.
    Trisher

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    The Matrix is in likeness to the finger pointing.




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    Taken awhile to read all the replies. Interesting perspectives and questions.

    To truly know something then you have had to have an experience and it would need to be profound. Then you could say you come from a place of knowing rather than a a place of beliefs.

    I strongly suspect humanity is experiencing, on this dimension of awareness, a reality that is suppressing, distracting and manipulating, to prevent humanity from achieving their full potentials and creating a world that creates, experiences & shares through the heart (or mind in the heart) rather than just the mind (which is easily manipulated). I call this suppressed and manipulated state, the matrix (from the film, as surprisingly, for me. it holds truths).

    Why do I strongly suspect? Well I've (humbly) had experiences to arrive to the aforementioned conclusions.

    So do I describe, my experiences? To describe personal experiences on a site such as this, I feel, needs to come from the right motivation and intent. I share to aid whoever wishes to read the post,clarity on my perspective and why I have it.

    About 10 years ago a very passionate group (and I honour that group), who had been dedicated to clearing their programs (ego) got together to experience source (or you could say an enlightened state) to walk with it every day, here on earth and.....well, source just responded.

    Over about 2 years, the group received what can only be described as downloads of consciousness that seemed to synchnonistically reveal truths about reality. Experiences were; kundalini rising, the human energy field changing, in that the energetic layers of the human energy field started to disappear (which was easy to check if you are used to feeling them), eventually, it felt that you were a black hole, nature felt like bliss, (in fact most things felt like bliss), creativity was at a high and there was a sense of adventure.....what would the next day bring?

    However, in EMF's around WIFI, masts etc, this state became compromised/flattened. The answer to the question why this was so and the solution that resulted to the EMF question ensured that we became persons of interest. It was being persons of interest that we became aware, that in our reality, certain groups (not all human) do not want humanity to raise their vibe, create, feel bliss, solve, experience life as an adventure. They want us following their command in energetic suppression.

    I still am a person of interest but I've managed to deal with it and even grow despite it.

    I now understand the manipulation. It's energetic, through EMF's and our subconscious (via various means) for our enslavement.
    With more growth, I can feel there is a positive, revealing itself, a grace. I feel strong energy in Gaia to support humanity.
    I feel we can ride the crest of this Gaia wave by going within and raising our vibe, opening our hearts. This manipulation/matrix will probably dissolve if enough people did this, revealing a new creative world for humanity.

    This is my truth and it's one I like. Lots of heart, solutions & potentials despite attempts to suppress them.

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    Now you know why I created the name "ExoMatrixTV" long time ago in 2007 on YouTube that channel was banned in 2009 ... Backup channel "EX0MATRIXTV" (O = zero) was banned in 2011 with 27,000+ subscribers & 1000+ videos ... then another back up name "EX0MATRlXTV" (where the I = low caps L) that was banned in 2019 with 37,000+ subs! (1200+ videos gone in a memory black-hole).

    At least I tried

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    exo (like exodus)
    exo (like exoplanets)
    exo = leaving or "outside" the matrix!
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    Quote Posted by Ernie Nemeth (here)
    The day the draft was instigated in Canada for the invasion of Nazi held Europe, groups of friends joined up together and were promised they would fight alongside one another. Many, many young men signed up that first week. That is how I remember the story, anyway.

    That is how a tide of sentiment rushes over a peoples - all of a sudden. That is a grass roots upswell.

    That is what is going to happen this time too.

    No worries.
    Hello Everyone:
    There is more to this story Ernie mentioned about groups of friends signing up to go to war.
    My father was so gun ho to go with all his friends they just couldn't contain themselves.
    It turned out my father was rejected because he was hard of hearing. All his friends got accepted.
    He was literally heart broken!

    None of his friends came back to Canada because they all died in the war. He was the only one left in the group to pass on to his postarity the great wisdom of life and how important each and everyones life is. It doesn't matter who you are because you all have purpose and you are meant to be where you are in the matrix or whatever you want to call it. He just called it life!
    Dad lived to 91 and he never met anyone that wasn't a friend after meeting them in person or by mail.
    Sometimes knowing is worse that not knowing! Can you imagine knowing all your friends are going to die? I can tell you that is was best not knowing for Dad. When he found out life just wasn't the same anymore....
    He did live life to the fullest but it just wasn't the same without all his friends...
    chancy

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