Interview transcript - Part 2
Dr Bill Deagle - Prognosis for Planet Earth - Part 2
Vista, California, September 2008
know, like one of the things they’ll often
do is, they’ll say: Well, Deagle, if all
the stuff you’re telling is true, you’re either
crazy, or why are you walking around alive?
I say it’s because I’m being protected on the
supernatural level, on the cosmic level, and on the spiritual
level, and also on the physical. I mean, there’s a lot
on the physical level, too.
And there’s a number of people even within the organizations
you might call the Illuminati, the CFR [Council on Foreign
Relations] and so on that actually see what’s going on
and see the insanity of it.
(BR): They’re not all evil.
Cassidy (KC): Let’s go from exactly where
you are... because you’re before the Council. They’re
making a decision.
KC: And are they conscious that you’re
there? Did they invite you in?
BD: Oh, they bring you right in. It’s
like a courtroom, you know, so that we will understand it,
of course. But what they do is they give you a surrounding
that you can identify with. So for me, I was in a physical
BD: And there’s
all these other human beings that are actually like in the
witness box, 24 of us. And they were being brought forward
one at a time, and then our consciousness would be uploaded
for all of those beings to actually see all our life experiences
and the information on the world and so on. And you see all
these images. And actually, because we were in the box, we
could actually see what was being witnessed by the others.
KC: OK. But you’re
also being given a message to take back.
BD: Right. The message to bring back is, if you want
to call it, it’s almost like a Biblical message, because
my calling is virtually identical to the calling of Moses,
who is my ancestor, and to Elijah and Jeremiah.
It’s basically: Repent. Get back connected with the
creator God. Don’t set up a set of rules, i.e., stone
commandments. Get people so their heart is so they don’t
do things wrong because it’s written on their heart.
It’s the message of “The Kingdom,” which
is, in other words, for mankind to be an advanced civilization
with advanced technology that doesn’t get absorbed by
the technology like Ray Kurzweil and many “Luciferians” talk
about, is to transcend it spiritually so that technology is
our servant and not our master.
BD: And that’s what’s happening, is whether
it’s genetic technology that could relieve illness, and
stop many of the pains of fragility as people get older, and
we want to lengthen human lifespan. I belong to the Academy
of Anti-Aging Medicine.
But I don’t
want them to do things like create cybernetic chimeric super-soldiers,
that then become a plague upon the planet, or super-weapons
that are used to kill or destroy others so they can get control.
And so it could be used for good or incredible evil, and
our problem is right now that most of the funding is toward
BR: What’s the outcome of this meeting that you’ve
just been describing?
BD: The outcome of the meeting was a somberness, a seriousness
that, if we didn’t get the message through to the people,
that the planet of Earth would be annihilated, would be allowed
to be annihilated.
A lot of
people think, for example, a lot of the space-based weapons
platforms we have around the Earth -- Right? Because I worked
with U.S. Space Command -- are weapons to knock out spacecraft,
to knock out asteroids or meteors, to, you know, basically
shield Earth against geomagnetic super-storms that may occur
from Solar Mass Ejections and other things, and to control
the climate. In other words, they’re trying to
create a kind of, like a terrarium, of Earth so as we pass
through the galactic plane...
Except that some of those weapons are located on the Moon
and aimed at Earth.
And in fact, most of the weapons there could be aimed at
Earth very easily and have been, and have
been used for great evil -- just like the geotectonic weapon
that triggered off the Sichuan earthquake, or the earthquake
that was struck on Nagata, Japan, and broke the reactor core
of the largest reactor in Japan. And it was told three days
before to Ben Fulford that his finance minister, of course,
had been warned that he had to pass over authority to the Rothschilds,
or their banking system, or they were going to hit Nagata.
And they did.
mean, it just shows you that the abuse of this power is not
just under circumspection of human beings. If you want to
invoke the Biblical terms, if you want to call the word... angel just means, in Greek it means messenger.
It means these messengers are always watching everything in
the higher planes of existence. Right? And they’re here
here in this room right now. Right?
was going to say...
BD: Right. They’re
here in this room right now.
what do they want you to tell people, you know, that has
to happen now?
BD: Well, it’s wrapped up in one word, and it
sounds kind of trite but it’s true. It’s called Repent.
it says in the Book of Malachi, which is one of the last
books of the Old Testament, it says: Repent
before the great and terrible day.
it’s really saying is: Reconnect with the
Creator God, become a Child of God, take your scepter.
And we have authority.
You’re no longer just
a little bug down here, a worm on the planet Earth and a small
dwarf, yellow dwarf star. You are the Voice in this plane of
existence of the Creator God. The spirit in you is not a separate
spirit. It is the I AM. OK?
the authority to create your own future. You have the authority
to destroy disease and poverty, and not have pollution, and
have limitless energy and information and to spread peacefully
and interact with other civilizations throughout the cosmos
without disrupting or destroying them, but maybe being almost
like, if you want to call it, midwives to other civilizations...
BD: ...that will then advance to the level where
they’ll understand and come out of the Petri dish
and the crib of civilization and become another advanced culture
BR: I’d like to add an anecdote to this, which
you may have heard, and I’ve also said before on another
interview but it’s worth repeating. Bill Birnes, the
editor of UFO Magazine was privileged to talk with
Admiral George Hoover of the office of Naval Intelligence before
he asked Admiral George Hoover: What’s
all this big secrecy about? What’s the real deal? What’s
really going on here?
BR: Because, what’s the big deal about Roswell
and little guys from wherever they’re from or whenever
they’re from? Why can’t we tell the people this?
And the long story is that, according to George Hoover, the
biggest secret that the people must not realize, it’s
not this data about the technology or the visitors, or the
existence of the visitors. It’s our own power. This is
the biggest secret.
our own power. Exactly.
BR: It’s our own power that we must not realize,
because the greatest secret is who we are, what we can do,
what we can be, and they’ve got to keep us in our box.
Otherwise, their game is over.
In other words, the comment made by Yeshua Ha'Mashiach Jesus
is: Surely you know you are gods. And
they misinterpret the word. In other words, you don’t replace the
Creator God of the universe; it means you’re an extension of
BD: And you’re
only an extension of it when you hear.
The Hebrew word is shemah, hear and do.
words, the problem I see right now is that we have a society
that thinks, by external rules and controls, we can create
this Luciferian world of order in chaos, so they can create
a world of “peace” which is totally an ordered world
that is completely under, if you want it call it, you know,
scientific control. It’s a scientifically-controlled
society, not ruled by spirit.
The very nature of what we are, though, is a spirit being
passing through a matrix of energy that creates worlds. We
are literally creating our own timeline in our name.
BD: And the thing is, corporately we are creating our
own timeline in our name. That’s why, for example, I
tell people on the show repeatedly: Don’t drink the
Kool-aid of fear.
fear itself creates, if you want to call it, a backburner
or an atmosphere that allows them to create the web of destruction
that occurs next.
other words, they can think themselves into
bombs going off in cities. They can think themselves into a
release of plague. They can think themselves into a grand depression,
where thousands of people starve to death and start cannibalizing.
They can think themselves into. . .
the things they try to do, is that want to have this fear
worship. They want to elevate you so then you become almost
like another avatar, rather than, no different than, that.
I’m not any different than my little daughter, or the
pert little, what they call them in the military when they’re
shooting ’em, “rag-heads,” over in Iraq.
I am the same. I’m just another incarnation of the I
BD: And the point has to be this: That if we don’t
start getting back to that connectedness, we’ll think
it’s OK to have this thermonuclear / scalar
/ biological warfare; it’s OK to kill most of
the population of Earth; it’s OK to create a
new cybernetic super-army, and replace the military, and destroy
them in fact when we release these damn things.
As I say, one person said to me: If
half of what you say is true, or even 10 percent, we’re
in a lot of trouble.
BR: Oh, we’re
in big trouble!
BD: I have a very special calling, not because I’m
special, but because I hear and do the will. And people
need to understand that. One of the things they try to do is,
they’ll say, you know, ten years or a century or a thousand
years from now, they’ll try to say: That guy was
so special. No one can ever be like him.
And what I want to tell them is I have had many opportunities
to go to the dark side, and I could have been one of the greatest
evil-doers that ever lived on this planet.
you were approached a couple of time, is that right?
of the most serious was 16 years ago, where I was sleeping
in my home. I was actually back from working in Georgia at
a burn unit and trauma unit, and having a practice there,
and I had come back for family reasons to Infield, Nova Scotia.
And I was sleeping in a different part of the house because
I was snoring.
So I woke
up in the middle of the night, bolt upright, and I sat up.
And I had all the lights on because I’d have
to periodically go to the restroom or whatever. I had all the
lights on. And this guy was standing in front of me with what
I call a $5,000 tuxedo, not a gray hair in his head, mid-50s,
slim and trim.
I said: How did you get in here?
wonderful to see you, my son.
I said: You’re
not my father.
And I looked at this guy, and he looked like French nobility.
Right? And I said: Who are you?
He says: I
am the Baron Guy de Rothschild, the
And I had this really kind of, what I call a check or
a kind of a cringe in my spirit. And I knew right
away, because I have this gift. Right? Without getting into
a big long discussion, I knew right away.
I said: I
know who you are. You’re the representative
of the Luciferic power that controls Earth.
He says: Yes,
I am the CEO of Earth, Inc., and I am the man that sits
in the 13th chair of the Druidic Council.
I want you to be my understudy, and when I transcend I want
you to take over my job.
And I said: No,
I’m not going to.
He said: We
know your bloodlines; we know your genetics; we know everything
about you and you’re a perfect replacement
And I said: No!
And after I rejected it, he said: I’m
going to kill you for writing these two books, which I received supernaturally
facedown on the concrete, you know, about six years before,
which no one knew about because it was in my study.
KC: What do you mean, you “received supernaturally
facedown on the concrete”? What do you mean by that?
BD: Basically I was “out,” if
you want to call it, and I was told to write these books,
and I wrote them down, which I released back in 1999 with
a group called The Prophecy Club.
And he said: And I’m going to touch your
baby daughter’s heart.
I said: I
don’t have a daughter, and my wife’s
not pregnant. And he started laughing. And I thought
he rebuked me because I serve the God of the Universe, the
God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
could see his countenance change. He got really nasty looking.
And then all of a sudden, literally – four feet
-- as far as you’re away from me, in broad daylight,
he just “poof” and disappeared, like in a vortex.
And I went upstairs shaking, and I could hardly talk, you
know. I told my wife what happened. So the next morning I went
to my office to do a pregnancy test, and of course she was
six weeks later we’re sitting in the ultrasound
room. During medical school I had worked with Dr. McMillan
and I actually did some of the background research on ultrasound
before any of the doctors in North America actually had it
for analysis, so I could read ultrasounds.
So I’m sitting in the ultrasound room and the tech’s
moving over my wife’s abdomen. And as she scans over
the abdomen, the technician, you could tell... Her lips
dried right up, and she had this kind of stark look on her
face. And I knew right away. I could see nuchal thickening
and the center of my daughter’s heart was stopped.
this the young girl we just met?
BD: Right. Now you’ve got to understand that some
of the things that’ve happened to me are so remarkable
that they just, you know...
born through C-section. I was told supernaturally, I had
visitations that told me that she wasn’t going
to die, even though the surgeons said: We don’t know
why she’s even born alive. Because her heart was... Literally
the center of her heart was gone. She had almost a single chamber
heart. Right? Which is a miracle.
did the first surgery at six and a half months. By the way,
we’re pro-life. We knew that she was going to
be born with Downs Syndrome, and of course we hoped that it
was going to be somehow miraculously healed.
But I was
told, basically, don’t be fearful, that she’s
going to survive, and she’s going to have this surgery.
She had her first surgery. She had already lost four ounces
from her birth weight by the time she had her first surgery.
And then at two and a half years, her heart started to enlarge
again. It was now the size of an adult heart and she was about
to die. So we had oxygen tanks, you know, oxygen pumps concentrating
oxygenated air and it had a 60-foot long tube going to her
bedroom with a little mask before her surgery.
I had a... because I have visitations all
the time. They told me: This is the words the surgeon will
say to you, that I don’t know what I did, but I put in
only four sutures, and her heart was miraculously healed.
There’s not even just a grade-one mitral valve defect.
They didn’t have to replace the heart valves. But literally,
with the Dacron grafts that he had done earlier, and with just
a few sutures, she’s healed. She never even had to be
on a heart drug, never been in a hospital, hasn’t even
ever had a cold, which is amazing for Downs Syndrome. Right?
key issue to me... And I think that I was permitted
to go through these experiences - this is one of the many ones
- is to understand the issue of the sacredness of all human
life, whether it’s the disabled, the elderly, people
of different faiths, skin colors, intellectual powers, whatever,
that we’re all in a sense the continuous incarnation
of the Creator God, which is the message of The Kingdom that
Yeshua Jesus was trying to give.
experience I want to share is back in... October
10th of 1993, I was face-down praying and I was brought supernaturally
by, if you want to call it, the term, archangel, which
is one of the senior messengers.
I was brought by this archangel, and he announced his name.
He said he name was Gabriel. Right? And the word Gabriel means
one who has a message from the voice of the Most High God. Gabriel means
one who can speak for God. Right? That’s what it means.
brought me to an underground facility. He brought me to some
satellite facility. And we didn’t just walk around
and he kind of said: This is that, and this is what’s
been happening. He actually explained the technology to
me in great detail. We spent, if you want to call it in the
spirit realm, I spent hours and hours and hours with him.
And I said: Well, where am I?
wouldn’t tell me. He said: You’re gonna
know because you’re gonna go to the place where this
And I thought it was Dallas. Right? So I called up. No,
no he’s already left here. He’s gone to Colorado
Springs. It was a pastor by the name of Pastor Doug
So my wife called, and she checked with a placement agency.
She said: Well, there’s no jobs available in Colorado
So three weeks later, she got prompted to go and start calling
around. And the second hospital she called, she talked to a
lady by the name of Joyce Wolf, who is the head of CCom. Oh,
we need an Op-Med doctor. Your husband does occupational
and environmental medicine? He has a background in...? And,
you know, I was a charter member of Greenpeace, and had a background
in toxicology and chemistry and biochemistry. Oh good,
we’ll fly you up this weekend. And four days later
I had the job.
10th of the next summer, which was July 10th of 1994, I walked
through the same facilities underground and the same satellite-based
engineering stations and classified projects as I had with
BD: OK? That’s
just one of hundreds of
experiences. OK? So people need to know that we are being watched.
The reason why the Earth is not an engulfed mass of biological
weapons release, even though we had 347 accidents just last
year in Class Four installations. That’s not even Fed-Ex
Couriers. We have no idea how many times we’ve been saved
have no idea. The number of interventions
is just... I say making angels gray-haired. [laughs]
BD: And if you want to call ’em ETs, angels or
whatever you want to do, but we are being watched and we’re
being watched over very, very diligently because it’s
such a desperately late time.
BR: But these guys... Are you saying that they’re
not going to step in forever, or there’s certain things
they can’t do?
BD: No, they can step in only if there’s a transformation
of the heart. You see, it’s not going to be space-based
technology to knock out, you know, to shield the Earth from
the collapse of the magnetosphere. It’s not going to
be space-based particle weapons that can hit an incoming meteor.
Or a solar storm.
It’s going to be a change in the heart of mankind that
we will not harm any other race. We’ll not invade a country,
like what we’ve done in Iraq and kill 1.5 million Iraqis.
We will not put poison in vaccines and call it fine.
We will not go to third-world countries like Poland two months
ago and do tests on Polish vagrants and kill them. There were
300 tests and 23 died within minutes, and 200 more were very
now imported to America 500 million doses of the Sanofi Pasteur
Vaccine made on contract for Homeland Security.
Now it’s not to scare people. It’s
to make them understand that the reality that I try to present
on the show is both the technical, scientific, public information,
you know, in the public domain, as well as classified. But
you’ll see an overall picture. But then on this other
side there’s the spiritual dimension to that.
have to understand that, whether there’s...
I get people all the time: Should I leave North America?
Should I leave America?
I say: No,
now is the time for us to confront this because you can’t
go far enough away.
And they say: Well, what do you mean? How far?
And I say: Well,
Mars isn’t far enough away for
say: You have to understand...
one of the talks that I had back in July of 1994 was, of
course... The Senior Commander of the US Space
Command comes up, and he’s a very sharp, this-is-the-way-it-is kind
He says: Docs,
I come to Jesus-talk for you.
And I thought: Oh-oh,
what’s he going to say to
And he has this real serious look. He says: You’re
one of our guys now. So you’re gonna hear stuff, because
you’re working with these guys who are working on all
these weird projects. These guys are the brightest guys in
engineering, cybernetics, physics, space-based weapons, everything.
And you’re going to get exposed to things.
so you won’t hear it from somebody else, so
I’m going to tell you right now. We control every cubic
centimeter of space between here and Mars.
And I said: What? I said: You mean between here
and the Moon.
He said: No.
Mars. We’ve had a colony on Mars since
the early 1980s, and we found evidence of previous civilizations
of human life on there going back a long time.
had an entire city on the Moon for mining operations for
We have entire fleets of space-based vehicles, and we
have more advanced sub- and above-light vehicles that are
need to know that. Even though we have entire rings of
space-based platforms around Earth, we have collaboration
with advanced civilizations. And if you don’t know
this stuff, you might as well know it now. And if you have
questions about anything, ask me, because otherwise, if you’re
not in the loop, you’re gonna freak out.
When was this? What year?
10th, 1994. OK?
All of this corroborates... all of this is. . .
Let me start that sentence again. Nothing we know contradicts
anything that you have just said. The information that we’ve
got from other sources completely supports everything you say.
is just testimony for the people watching this.
BD: Right. I know, and I’m
saying this straight out.
is the way it is.
BD: Yeah. Now you’ve got to understand that the
number of convergences... When I traveled around to The
Prophecy Club, to 42 cities in Israel, and I tell my story,
people said 100 individuals couldn’t have been in all
those places, but I was supernaturally told, just like I was
told to call you guys.
BD: I was the exit examining doctor for the Special-Op
forensic team that came back from the Murrah Building in ’95,
and my boss, Major George Schwinder, was not available because
he was getting extra air time at Fort Hood, Texas. So all five
Special-Op agents, I had to examine ’em.
One of the five broke down and told me in great detail how
they removed two unexploded fourth-generation U.S. Army Corp
Engineer micro-nukes, thermate, RDX, and high explosive cores,
and the buildings were brought down by the FBI and ATF.
I kept that information hidden. And as I was driving down
the street in Littleton, Colorado -- because I had my practice
in downtown Denver, and I was living in Littleton and down
on the Highlands Ranch.
this was after...
BD: This was after. This was back in 2003. I’m
driving down the road, and because I do have this gift, literally
I hear the voice of God, just like Moses.
BD: You know, what it talks about in the Bible? I’m
the bloodline descendent. OK?
God said: Turn on the radio. And I turn it on.
And he said: Turn to this channel.
And I do,
and I’m hearing this guy talk about financial
things. I say: Oh, that’s boring. Why am I listening
all of a sudden... Don’t turn
a guy comes on and it’s Alex Jones. And Alex
comes on and he starts talking about this New World Order stuff,
and I got this real kind of pinge in my spirit because
I’d kept this information hidden since ’95 to 2003.
I said: I’m going to release this information. So
I called into the show a couple of times and I told them I
have information about Oklahoma City.
And the guy who asked me to do a really extensive interview
was a Pastor Butch Paugh on Genesis Network. Well, after that,
the network called me back and said: We want you to do
the show. So in February of 2004 I started doing a radio
show on Genesis.
Now, before that, I had done a kind of, like an entertainment
show, called Laughter is the Best Medicine on Clear
Channel. So I’d go there on Wednesday nights with Mark
Alan Curry. We used to have a fun time going down to the Clear
Channel studios in Denver and just crack jokes back and forth
and talk about wellness and toxicology and environmental medicine,
and anti-aging and things like that.
that time... You really need to understand... I’ve
been in so many places... at the wrong place at the wrong
I was the doctor for the Englewood Fire Department and the
ladder truck that was actually there on the scene, including
a number of the other people there, so I know exactly what
happened. It was a complete government op at Columbine.
I was the doctor for the first kid shot in Columbine. And
I had one pediatric patient, and he had only started working
there, going to school, because he had a special-ed need --
Mark Taylor -- three weeks before. Right?
he came out of hospital after two 14-hour procedures and
57 units of blood, his mother asked me to put my hands on
him and pray for him. And I have an intuitive gift of discernment
that’s very unique. So I put my hands on him.
And I knew right away. I said: You
have an abscess in your chest that they missed, and I’m going to put you
on a specific antibiotic and in three days to the hour you’re
going to call me in pain and I’m going to put you in
hospital and drain it.
And to the hour he called me. OK?I put him in the hospital
and I told the radiologist, I said: Now, when you go and
do the CT scan, put this catheter into the abscess.
He said: Well how do you know that?
I said: Well,
when you do the CT you’re going to
see the abscess. Put the catheter in, drain it, and call
a thoracic surgeon. OK?
So he did and he said: How did you know that?
And I said: It’s
a long story. OK? So don’t
get... [Bill laughs]
later he’s walking around with a PCA pump
getting fentanyl. So he can press the pump every so many minutes
and the pump will then remember so he can’t press it
too many times, and he gets a little burst of fentanyl. And
he’s in agony.
abscess is about the size of a fist, and the thoracic surgeon’s
itching. He says: OK, well, we’re
going to have to cut this out, because if we don’t the
abscess will expand or it’ll go septic and he’ll
So I told
Mark. He’s sixteen-and-a-half; he’s not really
bright; his mother is kind of emotionally a basket case, and
he said: Well. I want... They were, you know,
they were “believers,” you know, Christians.
They don’t believe in miracles. They don’t believe
that we have the authority to take authority over reality,
whether it’s our physical bodies or whatever.
So I said: Look
Mark, I’m going to pray for you. I
said: And tomorrow morning instead of you going in for
surgery, you’re going to walk out of here.
And at first he looked at me like: Whoa,
a pretty bold thing to say.
So I stayed
up all night and I prayed for him. Next morning I came in
about 7.15 and I just put my hand on him and said: God,
you saved this kid from seven bullets to the chest. Right? And
one to the arm and leg. And the bullets actually went
behind his heart and in front of the aorta. One hit the T-9
vertebra and knocked a fragment off.
is the way I talked to God, I said: You’re
going to heal him immediately and you’re going to transform
his body so he’ll be a witness, because if you didn’t
allow him to survive this without being able to tell the
truth of what happened in Columbine.
So I put
my hand on him. It was like holding a high-tension power
line. All of a sudden it just felt like this energy [makes
sizzling noise] coming right through me. And I could see literally
with the mind’s eye, if you want to call it, The Creator.
I could see right down to his cells, and everything, and it
I said: Mark,
get your clothes ready. We’re walking
out of here.
I walked up to the front desk to the nurse and I said: He’s not going to surgery for a 7-hour procedure
to cut out four ribs and take out this abscess. He’s
She looked at me like: Oh-oh,
this guy’s a nut case.
How can we get psychiatry down here? Right?
I said: No.
Repeat the CT scan. It’s gone. So
they repeated the CT scan and an hour-and-a-half later, he
was hopping and skipping out of the hospital.
KC: Now isn’t
info about this on the web, about this boy and his mother
in regard to you?
BD: Oh, what happened is they get involved with... The
mother has a problem; she’s a manic depressive. And they
offered all kinds of big movie scripts and money and everything
and Mark actually...
I just got a contact from her doctor just last week because
I’m trying to help the doctor. He called me all
the way from Iowa, saying: Please, you’re one of
the few people that care for Mark. And I still do, and
I care for his mom, too.
But they said a lot of nasty things because they got involved
with some pastors, and they got a big possibility of a movie
was happening is I was working and my wife was working on
collecting a ton of information, because we were going to
private showings of videotape that the public didn’t
see. I got a chance to interview and talk to almost every other
child that survived the Columbine shooting.
So there were many of the kids that actually died of SWAT
Team bullets. There were at least, probably, we think up to
4 kids that may have died from SWAT Team bullets, from the
literally stayed and lived with us for almost a year-and-a-half.
He went to vacation with us, even to Las Vegas. Right? Even
when they asked me to go up in January of 2000 to speak at
the Full Gospel Fellowship, I paid my own ticket. We didn’t
ask for anything.
happened is, the mother had been contacted by a big movie
company, wanting to turn this into a Columbine movie, and
they got real angry that we wouldn’t just hand everything
over or do things their way.
I said: No,
no, we’re not going to turn this into
a sideshow here. This is real serious; we had this kid survive;
we had this miraculous thing happen; we don’t
want this to turn into a sideshow. And that’s
where the negativity started.
BD: But it’s really unfortunate that happened,
because Mark is still, you know, he’s very sick right
now. He’s been in and out of a psychiatric facility.
doctor, one of his doctors, in Iowa contacted me: What can we do to try to help him?
I said: Well, you know he needs serious help. But
a lot of the time they give these young people drugs that I
think are patently toxic.
BD: We know for example, when you give somebody that’s
manic depressive, SS or I drugs like Luvoc, Prozac, etc., they
go over the deep end. Unfortunately, his doctors gave him the
These drugs came out of Hoffmann-LaRoche. They came out of
mind control projects in the Soviet Union and Germany going
right back to I.G. Farben. They get right back to G proteins.
And he had a real bad reaction from whatever they gave him.
Now if I can steer this back now...
that was a beautiful story, and it’s
great to have that on record, but how you were in the right
place at the right time so many times that most people would
never believe it. But backed up from that you’ve been
in the right place at the right time for a reason here and
that is to give what you would probably call your testimony.
BD: Well, I’m a witness. I’m almost like
Daniel in the lion’s den. I’ve been in places that
most people can’t even imagine.
Like in 1977 I was supposed to do research on MS [multiple
sclerosis] at the Santa Monica VA Hospital, part of UCLA. And
one of the projects was to work on a Ph.D. neurology residency
under Dr. Wallace Tourtellotte.
And the other four projects were all classified. Four of them
were actually cybernetic projects. One was actually a helmet
that would convert thoughts directly to on-flight commands
directly to a supercomputer that they already had with command,
or symbols, that would be projected onto the canopy of the
jet so you could fly the jet by thoughts, fire off ordnances.
And the other three projects were to take prisoners from West
Orange and Irvine State Penitentiaries and wet-wire their brains
with platinum and palladium micro-wires.
Tourtellotte had a custom-made CT implanter that was used
with a CT scan that could implant micro-wires in specific
nuclei in the brain to actually use supercomputers -- that
were classified -- to convert neural-net stochastic firing
sequences so they’d get particular images. So you could
control their behavior, see what they see, hear what they hear.
And I turned it down. I said: No. You people are crazy!
to turn them into Manchurian Candidates.
BD: Yeah, they actually had a thing called the “Rambo-chip,” that
they had back in the ’60s and this is part of Delgado’s
research at Yale. They had a thing called the Rambo-chip and
what the Rambo-chip was, was a rage-control chip that was in
the subthalamic nucleus that could actually control rage. You
flip the switch and they would kill, and you would turn it
off and they’d stop.
So this was one of the things the residents would laugh at: Ha,
ha, ha. We can do this stuff. But I think that’s
don’t understand that a lot of the people
that they give these projects have 180-plus IQs, but they’re
twisted. OK? Or if they’re not, they’re compromised.
And if they eventually discover it and they try to pull back,
they do things like “patch” them. You ever heard
of what a patch is?
BD: OK. A patch is where they give you an intravenous
patch. The patch lasts three days. OK? Or a transdermal patch.
And if you don’t get the next patch in three days you
die a horrific death.
BD: OK? So they’ve
got you on a short string.
OK. Now, some of this is on record on the Granada Forum Lecture
and a lot of people watching this will already be familiar
with that material.
nearly two years further on from there. Where are we now?
What does this mean for the human race and for the individuals
watching this now?
the timeline to watch for is actually the nation of Israel.
OK? And the timeline to watch is...
And that’s why my calling is particularly important,
because I’m going to re-release my book, Clay and
Iron, here sometime in the not too distant future. Right?
BD: Yeah. So if you look at the nation of Israel, there’s
so much contradiction. All the stuff with Iran is all over
BD: Even American foreign policy. The reason why they
went into Iraq was Israel. A trillion dollars spent, the collapse
of the economy -- it’s all tied back to Israel. OK?
And people say: Well, why
is Israel so important? Why was there a first holocaust?
Why is there planning to be a second?”
really pretty simple. Think of it this way: If the Creator
of the universe made a people, or a group of people, you
could call it a mixed group of people, the ancient tribes
of Israel, as an object-lesson to the world, a scapegoat
in a sense, a way of explaining to people: If you try to
follow The Law you get condemned and destroyed. OK?
would happen is that... The original books of
the Bible spoke about a God you could not see that was the
Creator that created you in his image. OK? And, even if they
didn’t understand it, they tried to adhere to it. They
kept every jot and tittle. Right?
the “People of the Book,” which is what
they used to be called -- they weren’t called the Jews
or the Israelites -- they had to be wiped out because they
would tell people. Even if they went off and they went through
a reformation or they learned from other religious groups,
whether it’s Buddhists, or Hopi, or natives, they’d
eventually start getting beyond religion.
As I said
in my talk on The
Granada Forum, 10,000 years from
now will there be anything called “religion”?
Of course not. It won’t exist because we’ll have
a full knowledge of the Creator Gods and what they are. Because
we can’t exist and transcend beyond the technology unless
we do that. We won’t survive.
other words, the two are mutually exclusive.
to get back to what the role is of Israel.
BD: The role of Israel is a timepiece. It’s actually
a detonator. It’s a transformative event. It’s
like the ultimate, if you want to call it, death trap for civilization.
So what’s happened? For example, I’ve had on my
show numerous times, Barry Chamish. A good example is, the
nation of Israel arose, and the holocaust... The greatest
lies in modern history have been about the holocaust. Yes,
they killed almost 7 million Jews. Yes they killed probably,
of others, up to maybe 23 million.
But the real goal was not only a ritual sacrifice to the transdimensional
demonic realm. Right? But the real goal transcends that. It
was to wipe out the idea of a Creator God and that
we’re an incarnation of the Creator.
eventually if the reformation and all these other things
were to continue to proceed... Since the breakup
of the control of the Roman Catholic Church, and all the spinoffs
and everybody trying to get into the New Age, and all the other
religious things, where there’s a return to spirituality...
move right now is not toward religion, it’s
toward spirituality, whether they’re coming from a Christian
viewpoint, a Jewish viewpoint, a Buddhist viewpoint. And they’re
all starting to kind of compare notes and realize that, even
though they use different terms, they’re starting to
understand there’s a commonality there.
still, to steer you back. So the role of Israel at this time...
the role of Israel is primarily to act on the, if you want
to call it, on the Luciferian serpentine side, is to act
as a detonator for the final annihilation of mankind.
in practical terms...
use it as a final focal point.
KC: You mean they’re
going to attack Iran, and in return...
BD: Yeah, or the threat of an attack will set in motion
the peace treaty that’ll partition the State of Israel.
Just think of it this way.Logically, if you’re from another
world and you were to see a nation that’s the size of,
you know, a little tiny strip of land anywhere from 10 to 16
miles long -- the third nuclear power... Probably the most
advanced in terms of biological weapons on the planet is the
State of Israel.
BD: They have their own space-based imaging systems,
ImageSat. They’ve got all kinds of weapons, when they
were kind of on the outs, that they developed with the South
Africans. They even, a lot of the time, buy their own jets
and just stack ’em right up. They have the number one
air force on the planet in terms of rapid response, and killing
capacity. Number one, not number two or three.
is, you divide that nation and they have no boundary zone
where they can protect themselves. And the only thing they
can do is to pull a “Samson Option” and hit
a button. They have space-base platforms. Because Israel has
them. Israel has space-based weapons platforms, imaging systems,
terrible stuff. They could wipe out every city within 10,000
miles of them. They can just “bam.” They’re
BR: But they. . .
is the plan?
BD: The plan is. . . It’s all being
set up because, you see, the leaders of Israel are Satanic
Luciferian. The entire State of Israel was set up, as Barry
Chamish has said, so they could cleanse themselves of any who
is a “Torah Jew,” anyone who understands the nature
of the Creator God.
they didn’t understand the depths of it, they
didn’t want anybody to understand that they were created
in the image of a God and they’re a spirit having a physical
existence on this plane of existence.
They wanted to then replace them with a Luciferic idea, an
agnostic idea, a communist idea. So the State of Israel was
originally sponsored with the Soviet, the actual Communist
the idea was to create an agnostic Luciferian society where
they follow the highest tenants of Babylonian Kabbalah, which
means that they themselves are Gods. OK?
words, they replaced God
because therefore they are the energetic intelligent force
to use good or evil, following this Shabbatai Tzvi, you know
the false anti-Messiah, 1666, and Jacob Frank, to actually
create a world order where “these Luciferic cabalists
would control the world.”
what happening now. You can see it with the financial system.
You can see it with the political system. You can see it
with everything, that these Luciferic Satanists...
groups at the very top are Teutonic Knights, who think they’re bloodline descendants through Yeshua Ha'Mashiach
Jesus and King David. That’s one group, which are all
the Royals of Europe. And the other group are the Sabbatian
Luciferic Satanists -- Satanic Jews.
people run the world.
by the Pope. Right?
BD: Led by the Pope and the Black Pope and the Knights
of Malta, and they’re totally controlling it. And they’re
interacting at such a level that they literally have physical
presence of these demonic reptilian beings right even in the
in, you know, and people need to understand.
get these deepest underground bases... I had
one Canadian engineer who actually controls and engineers and
takes care of the Aurora Space Fleet, that fly out of our underground
bases in central Germany and the Black Forest and fly to our
Moon bases and on to Mars.
And he’s terrified to come on the show. And I’ve
been talking to him for the last couple of years. But he’s
showed me enough technical information and facts and sent me
stuff that I know that his story is real. Right? So I’m
going to repeat it.
After 10 months of psychological testing, they finally said: Well,
now you’re in the deepest of the D.U.M.B One Bases
and we’re going to bring you down to the final level. And
he gets down there and all of these beings are right there
in the flesh. OK?
like out of Star Wars. OK? It’s
really crazy, but he says it’s real.
And I said: Why
won’t you come on and tell us?
Because, he said, I
don’t want to shatter
people’s religious beliefs.
And I said: Well,
I do want to shatter them, because it’s
a sacred cow, and in fact their religion, whether they’re
this group of Christians, or this group of Jews, or this
group of Buddhists, they’re all wrong. They’re
words, I call it [religion] “real lies going
on.” It doesn’t mean you throw out the baby with
the bathwater, like Bill Marr in his movie that’s coming
out this week called Religious, you know, when he
says anybody who’s religious is a fool; they’re
BD: ...because of all the foolishness that religions
are doing – like, I call them the “Armageddonites” --
that are supposedly Christians that believe that they have
to bathe the world in blood and fire.
the Sabbatians who think: Well, we’ll
just pull the Samson Option and go down to our underground
bases. Because they have a ton of ’em down there.
the Illuminists who think: Well, who cares
if we blow up the world? We’ll just go to our underground
bases and we’ll survive and then we’ll come back
up in a decade or century. Like the Morlocks, you know,
of H.G. Wells’ Time Machine.
And it’s insanity. Because they’re not going to
survive what’s going to come. They’re not going
to survive it. OK?
need to grasp that what we’re heading for here
is, unless they take up the scepter of what they are and the
power that they have to decide for life -- just like
Moses when he took the six tribes in Mount Ibal and Mount Garizin
and put between [them] an amount of cursings and an amount
of blessings and he said: Today, choose life.
words, you’re not taking away their choice.
You’re saying: You need to grow up and you need to
stop talking about easy-be-livism, prosperity gospel, all this
other foolishness, and you need to start talking about relating
to other humans.
fund a country on a credit note to go and kill a million
and a half Iraqis. You cannot decide to invade Iran, when
we know that they hit the Bashear reactor and 450 targets.
got my military contacts inside there, and experts have told
me in the last 4 to 6 weeks, that it’ll kill
between 1.5 to 15 million in the first two weeks, and it
could be as high as 32 billion plus. And the radiation cloud
will go downwind and will move directly through Yemen, all
the way through to Saudi Arabia, and heading down toward China
BR: And that’s
after an Israeli strike? Or the Americans?
Well, what happens is, if they start it, the Americans are
already pre-positioned there. So the thing is, what this
how can this be prevented?
BD: It can be prevented... Well the first thing
that they’re going to do is, they’re gonna try
to bring us to the brink of destruction, and then set up their
peace treaty to divide the land. And what happens is...
has already promised that he’s going to let this
go through within twelve months of him leaving, before they
could have a transition to the next Prime Minister, which means
we’ve a time window, probably 11 months now, where they’re
going to actually put in the final treaty to divide the
city of Jerusalem and divide the State of Israel.
That’s setting the detonator. You can’t do that.
If you do that, you guarantee a thermonuclear war or a chemical
/ biological / scalar war that’s going to end civilization
on this planet.
divide the land of the State of Israel. You have to have
an inclusive government that can include Arabs, and Christians,
and Jews, and people from Baha’i or whatever.
BD: And Palestinians. And you have to not make them
feel like third-world citizens or that if they intermarry,
or if they evangelize they’re going to end up in jail
or whatever. In other words, you have to have dialogue between
people and not have apartheid, which is what they have there.
BR: I haven’t understood you there, personally. If you’re
saying that the State of Israel becomes divided, what’s
the connection between that and the inevitability of a huge
Israel will be pushed to the point, when the conflict reaches
its culmination, that it will start the trigger for a thermonuclear
all of these great nations.
a bipolar world. We have right now the western alliance of
the Illuminati with, you know, Britain and America and all
of their allies.
the other side we have the Shanghai Cooperation nucleus:
Russia and China and all their sphere of influence. So it’s
not a unipolar world; it’s a bipolar world.
BD: OK? And people need to know this. One of the things
that happened back in the spring of 1999, I was taken supernaturally,
actually through the ground, and saw the geological formations
and the oil at the southwest end of the Dead Sea. And there’s
a lot of oil there -- 27.2 trillion barrels -- and it’s
BD: And it’s from the fault line that runs all
the way from Turkey right through Kenya to Lake Victoria. OK?
And the Dead Sea itself was created when the oil came up. The
magma... Actually from the oil field, it mainly hit along
that fault line when the Earth shifted back at the time of
Abraham. It actually hit that fault line and caused an explosion
equal to 500,000 Nagasakis.
guy who told me that was the head of the Israeli Oil Company
- okay? - who discovered all the oil fields in Zohar, all
the oil fields down in the Sinai Peninsula.
actually not using that oil. Right?
I was asked to go over there when I gave some of my presentations
on that radio show with Stan Johnson, by Hayseed Stevens,
and the Israeli Oil Company, and Ariel Sharon. I was actually
asked to go over to Israel and say a prayer at the southwest
end of the Dead Sea, at the bottom of Masada, which I did
on Rosh Hashanah right at sundown, and blow the shofar, and actually say this Hebrew prayer.
And I did that. And I warned them. I said: Now,
a prophet and I’m telling you, if you try to expose
to the world that this oil is here, you’re going to
precipitate an immediate war. You’re going to have
millions of people coming in here. Because there’s
more oil there than the whole world put together. Right?
KC: OK, but you’re
exposing that right now.
exposing that now because it has to be exposed.
BD: It’s the time now to expose it. Because what’s
going on now is... Basically there’s a number of
things in motion now that... Probably in less than a year
they’re going to sign the final treaty. If they sign
And it’s also tied to other events happening around
2012. Because as we pass through the center-point of the galactic
plane, there’s a great danger that we’re going
to have geomagnetic collapse of the magnetic field around the
Earth. We’re also going to have very, very high risk
in the next several years of major Solar Mass Ejections that
trigger off super-earthquakes and super-tsunamis.
very, very high risk of that. OK?
been told this independently.
So people need to know that, you know, things that happen
on the spiritual level also descend and have effects on the
energetic and the physical level. And as we get into wrong
timelines and make wrong decisions corporately, we move along
those timelines toward things that can be very destructive.
I tell people right now is, it’s not the time
to flee, but there’s going to be incredible pain because
they’re moving toward the Amero. I have already talked
to people who are very reliable they have already seen the
Amero notes in Mexico City.
KC: So you’re
here in Oceanside, California. Right?
I was told to be here.
why? Could you...
know partially why. The way it happened was back in February
my wife, who is very intuitive too, she told me, she says: Bill,
we’re supposed to move.
I said: Well
I don’t want to move. I’m comfortable. See,
I didn’t really want to move from Denver to go back home
but I was with my mom before she died in October a year ago.
And so I went to sleep that night and I said: God, tell
And he did. He sent me an angel who told me: You’re
going to go to Oceanside-Vista.
I said: I
don’t want to go there. I don’t
even know anybody there. There’s not even any jobs
there or anything that I want to do there. Right? And
he started laughing at me. Right? And cracking jokes, because...
need to know that they’re watching us and they
know the future that we don’t know. Right? And a lot
of times we probably wouldn’t do things we have to do,
because some of the stuff we have to do is pretty painful and
BR: So what’s
going down that brings you here?
part of it is being here now so you could even do this taping.
BD: Because there’s people here that have to wake
up. They’re going to have to hear this message to know
that I’m called, what’s actually called, “The
Sons and Daughters of the Most High God.” I’m one
called “The Witnesses.”
Now, I’m going to back this up a bit so you’ll
get an understanding of just how important this meeting is
first century, my family were in this 24-family cycle of
the Cohanim (also spelled Kohanim) that actually served in
the temple at the time of Yeshua. And a prophecy was given
directly by Emmanuel, directly to my ancestor, that was written
down in the first century and passed on all the way through
to my Great-uncle Michael, who died in the ’70s.
supposed to be given to me ,because I was the eldest of the
eldest. His brother thought he was the one called to give
this word, which is to blow the trumpet of Elijah and actually
tell people about the coming of the new age, the new world
that was going to come, a world of peace, where there wouldn’t
be lack or all these things.
And that was passed down for almost 19 centuries. Right? That
person is me. OK?
reason why I know that is because at [age] eight and a half
when I had my tonsil surgery done... I had a French surgeon
who was operating on me in Colchester County Hospital. They
cut an artery in my neck and I bled to death. OK? There’s
a little guillotine-style thing, and they pull the tonsils
through with tongs, cut it off. And I had an aberrant artery
and I bled to death.
And I went
down the tunnel of light. And of course, the way it happened
is, all of a sudden I’m floating over the
operating room table, I’m looking down, I can see this
little boy, and I see blood spurting everywhere. I say: Gee,
that looks like me. I didn’t feel any pain.
of a sudden I’m standing there and I’m
walking around, trying to talk to the nurses and doctors and
nobody would pay attention to me. So I’m getting very
frustrated. So I walk toward the door and I just went right
So I turned right and I walked down the hall, and I saw the
nursery, and I saw these babies all bound up tight on their
side, and the nurses were trying to keep them, you know, because
if one starts, they all start to cry. And they all had little
different colored blankets on them. So one baby started to
cry and they all started to cry.
And all of a sudden everything started to fade into an inky
black, a black so black you could feel it, and I felt like
I was being squenched through a pinhole. Right? And then all
of a sudden I cried out, you know: God, where am I? Something
terrible’s happening. Right?
And I saw
a pinpoint of light and all of a sudden there was these intersecting
crimson lines, and I’m going down
this tunnel, and I say: It’s too fast, God! It’s
all of a sudden I’m in this place of light,
and across in the other side of this space there’s a
man standing there, you know, almost glowing light. And he
had a broad golden sash with a double-corded belt, and what
I call brass-like sandals.
forehead almost looked like there were puncture marks, and
it was still swollen, and you could see where his beard was
plucked out. He had reddish hair just like a... The best
way to describe him would be a Norwegian, only he had olive-colored
skin. He looked like a big, you know, rock-hard kinda 3-percent
body mass, kind of a carpenter with big hands and big knuckles.
And he looked like a guy that could, you know, make anything.
Right? Only there was a... they fell to the middle part
of his arm and leg.
And as he appeared, there was a big chasm that appeared in
these clouds. There was all light all around. And I saw this
little wooden bridge.
And he said: Don’t
cross the wooden bridge or the silver cord will break.
And I said: What’s
And he says: I will bring it into your remembrance. Because,
in other words, you know everything, you just have to remember
going down the tunnel of light. I can remember this cord
that seemed to come out from the base of my brain and my
throat and it went down. It was like a cord of water. He
called it “the cord of living waters.” It looked
like a neon cord that kind of scintillated with light. Right?
And he said: If
you go, you won’t be able to return.
I said: Where am I?
And he said: You’re
at the gates of paradise or heaven, the eternal NOW where
there is no past, no present or future but everything that
you think immediately is. Right?
So I said: Well, can you show me?
of a sudden he’s holding me by his right hand,
and I’m flying over the Golden City and I can see everything.
And I would say, because there’s no time and space, he
showed me worlds, beings, planets, civilizations, that I’m
going to talk about a little bit today.
the amount of things he showed me about the universe... The universe is an elemental particle in a
larger universe. He told me about time-space. He told me about
quantum physics. He told me everything. That’s why I
was about to go into nuclear physics at MIT. OK?
BD: He showed me beings that later on in life I’d
say: Oh, I saw that in Star Wars. OK? Because these
things did exist. I saw them, and I was there, to their worlds.
I can’t tell you how long it was, but in lineal time
it had to be many centuries that I spent there. It wasn’t
a matter of a few minutes, like some people who have these
near death experiences. I was there for an indeterminate period
of time. It was so long, you know, and the amount of... and
I only talk about a very tiny portion of what I know because
it’s so beyond the pale of human understanding, of civilizations
and worlds and things that people cannot even grasp, so I don’t
talk about it. So all of a sudden...
so you went to this place...
after... I’m back. And all of a sudden he’s
back on his side and now I’m back on my side and I’m
thinking: OK. After this indeterminate time I’m
back on my side and I say: Look...
he spoke to me telepathically; he didn’t have
to speak. And he said: Well, what is your decision?
And I said: I want to do the right thing. And I said: Well,
if I’m going to go back, what am I to do?
of a sudden he’s holding me with his hand again,
and I’m giddy. We must be 400 miles above the Earth and
I look down.
he had on a thing, a tallit, and I didn’t
know what a tallit was because I was raised a little Roman
Catholic boy. Right? So I saw this tallit and it was splattered
with blood on it, this tallit, which is a prayer shawl. And
I looked down over the Earth and I could see the edge of the
horizon shimmering out across the dark of space.
And he said: Behold my blue jewel, the Earth. Right?
And I said: It’s
He said: Yes! You know. Right?In other words, the
Earth is a living thing. Right?
And I heard
a voice behind me that sounded like a deep voice, one of
the... what we could call “the angelic.” And
he said: Behold the Voice of the Seven Thunders.
So the first time he said Behold he
held his hand like this [gestures] -- and I don’t know
what that symbol means -- but he held his index and middle
finger and pointed down toward the Earth and he said Behold.
And all of a sudden I saw fireballs rising off the Earth everywhere,
but particularly across continental America, a lot of
them.And I thought: Oh, this is a light show.
this is great, I’m a little kid here, and I’m
still in my little hospital gown from having my surgery and
I’m free-floating up in space and I’m looking down
over, and I see all these fireballs.
And then he looked back at me sternly, like: You
it is, our civilization has been conceived almost like in
a spiritual womb -- Earth -- and the timeline that we are
selecting corporately will decide whether or not we’re
stillborn or aborted or whether our civilization will move
on to join the Ben Elohim, the Council of the Eschaton, the
advanced civilizations that are literally the incarnation of
the Creator of the Universe, in whatever form, whether they’re
human, nonhuman, or other civilizations...
at some point we’re going to “have contact.” Well,
how do we have contact?
What I’ve presenting is that this is the transition
point from “the past, which is religion,” which
is based on ignorance. You know, like the Buddhists try to
say -- a lot of people say I’m a Buddhist, but I’m
not -- is that all pain and suffering is due to ignorance.
problem is that, in a future where we have a total understanding
of ourselves and the nature of the universe, there’s not even room for religion because religion is
like recipe cards. It’s irrelevant. It’s like: This
is my past history; these are my recipe cards. It’s
dogma. It’s replacing the ever-present knowledge of what is right
or wrong. Because you don’t need to be told. Right?
KC: Right. But let’s
So the key to why Israel is so important is because Israel
is an object-lesson for the whole planet. Israel is, if you
want to call it, purposely set up to be the nexus decision
point of civilization.
how that is handled determines whether or not our civilization
moves forward. If you look at America right now, the trillion
dollar debt of these wars, in the last years since 9/11.
The people who put the bombs in the building were under orders
from Project Omega, which is, you know, the overseeing agency
of all the secret agencies on the planet.
by the Vatican.
ones who put the bombs in the buildings were contract. They
could have been any secret agency but they happened to be
very experienced Israeli Mossad nuclear agents who put the
nuclear bombs in the World Trade Center. OK?
do that because they want to have a hatred of Jewish people.
And I’m not an anti-Semite -- I have Jewish blood,
Iranian blood, Armenian blood, etcetera, so I have...
would the Mossad want hatred of Jewish people?
part of their dialectic of control.
BD: Just like the death of millions of Jews in the Second
World War was actually at the hands of not only the Sabbatians
who want to cleanse the whole, if you want to call it, the
whole people of Israel of anyone who “had any religious
Torah belief in a Creator God.” So they had an anti-messiah,
an anti-God, a we-are-God.
purpose of the Kabbalah, if you want -- the highest level,
which is the highest level of all Masonry, is Kabbalah. Right?
-- is that we are... The revelation is: You are
the Luciferic-Satanic power. You don’t need to go to
a higher God; you are god.
is very different, right?
this all about Israel being an example, right in center stage
for everyone to look at and everyone to learn from, with
all kinds of things at stake, what can the ordinary person
do to influence these choreographed events?
watching this, who are even very aware, very well informed,
some of them the most aware, most informed people around,
they’ll be saying: Well what can I do? This
is already set in train.
BD: Well, the real issue... It
comes down to one real simple thing. It comes down to: What
are they going to do personally to come out of religion? OK? Religion
is the toxic poison of the modern world. And people say: Well,
you’re talking in terms of spirituality like a prophet,
like Israel. But people, understand, Yeshua himself, Jesus
was not religious.
hm. Of course.
was a spiritual leader. OK?
was leading people away from religion
to relationship. OK?
BR: OK. And any of the great leaders, even if they only
had a tiny portion of that, tried to teach similar pieces of
it, you know, whether you’re talking about the prophets
or people who are spiritual leaders of the native peoples,
or in China or elsewhere, they’re talking about... They
all basically had a portion of that truth.
The greatest portion that was ever released was the fullness
of the Father in the Flesh, Yeshua Ha'Mashiach Jesus, which
is why the whole of the Old Testament and New all point back
toward him, because he was a great teacher.
happening in our world right now, is that everything happening
in our world -- financial collapse, control matrix, technologies
-- everything is all centered around Israel. Everything.
In fact, the two great empires of the Shanghai Cooperation
Organization and the Western Empire are all meeting there,
and the goal of the Teutonic Knights, which are the Knights
of Malta, is to have a great temple there where they can set
up their world government from their temple. Weird, hey?
But it’s happening because it’s happening in the
spiritual realm above, and as above/below, and it’s also
descending and happening on the physical realm.
we have to answer this question correctly, which is: To transcend
technology, we need to transcend religion to a spiritual
relationship. And we need to understand that when God is
speaking, whether it’s through the ancient peoples
of Israel, or the Hopi Indians or whatever, he’s speaking
to them, and they only have their portion.
to understand God is speaking in a language of history, a
language to their spirits, a language of knowing things.
Or, if they do not transcend spiritually, they’re going
to die together.
what these people can do that are listening to this is basically
reconnect with the Creator.
BD: And also stop buying into the Armageddon Night idea;
we’re going to have a rapture; we have to be bathed with
fire; the Luciferic idea, somehow that I can decide what is
good or evil.
the foolishness of the “super-scientist,” the
technician, the Illuminati, the people in these Black-Op projects
that think that they can decide for the rest of the planet.
we’re deciding as we’re building underground
bases so we’ll survive as we go into the galactic plane.
They’re not going to survive, because I can guarantee
you that the Council will not allow them to survive, no matter
what they do, if there’s not a transition of their heart.
the exact same message that Yeshua Ha'Mashiach Jesus gave
which is: Unless your hearts are changed, your
world will die. OK?
BR: And that’s what’s
at stake right now.
BD: That’s what’s at stake. We’re
talking about not just the death of the person that they call “omnicide,” not
just the death of the family, not just the death of the nation,
not just the death of mankind or every living thing, but the
death of the spiritual entities that are incarnated into the
beings here on this world.
It’s literally a spiritual abortion that’s
being done on the planet, and if you see the transdimensionals,
the Satanic/Luciferic transdimensionals, they have harassed,
and intervened, and abducted.
And people say: Well, why does the abductions phenomenon
seem so malicious? It’s because they’re demonic.
I mean, you might not use the term demonic from the Bible,
but in every culture you’ll find these things going
And they’re intensifying, including you know... Not
only are our vehicles up there, like the TR3 which are these
giant triangles, and the Aurora and other ones, but there’s
a ton of these other vehicles because they’re here watching,
for the show. They’re here for the show.
They’re here in the birthing room waiting to see if
there’s going to be a delivery or an abortion of the
planet. OK? That’s what’s going on. OK?
BD: And they need to grasp that it’s not going
to happen by a change in politics, or a president, or monetary
policy. It’s going to happen with a change of the heart.
For example, let me give you one example of solution. Why
do we have a world that can allow usury, which is interest?
Why do we allow derivatives? Why do we allow a group of people
who can control and manipulate money that
causes starvation, where 60% of the cost of food is due to
manipulation? And then they make bad policies suppressing energy
technology, so that people literally can’t truck the
food in third-world countries, so they can’t make themselves
independent, and they starve to death?
Or in places
like North Korea, we demonize people so that they then literally
exhume their own dead and eat them, which is what they’ve
had to do. OK?
do not know the depths of how far this is going to go unless
there’s a transformation of the heart. It
has to happen immediately.
And I’m called as a Witness of Ephraim, and I’m
called up today to be a Witness of Yehuda. OK?
now... and the Jewish people are by and large
mostly agnostic, or what I call... They belong to synagogues
that are basically either spiritually dead because they don’t
connect with the true reality of this.
There’s a very tiny fraction of real Torah Jews who
understand what’s going on, and there are some there
who are Rabbis who know what’s going on and are fearful
because they see the coming second holocaust. And I went through
And it’s not just the holocaust of the death of the
last of the Jews. It’s the death of all humanity that’s
they’re conspiring this through their transdimensionals,
the serpentine, these civilizations out there that are hell-bent
on destroying mankind.
conspiring with these world leaders, who are literally their
minions -- George Bush Sr., and George Soros, and the Blackstone
Group, and all those other organizations are just their minions.
And many of them think: Oh,
I’m going to get life
extension technology. I’m going to survive whatever’s
coming. I’m going to get a 50,000-acre farm in Paraguay. Lies!
going to survive in these underground places.
When they’re hit with a force 11 or 12 earthquake that
will shatter all their tunnels, no they’re not. They’re
going to be entombed into those places.
a good message to give the guys from the Black-Ops who will
be watching this.
They need to understand that I walk.
They can’t stop me. I can instantly walk into spirit,
into any of their places without any way of stopping me. OK?
BD: We are The Sons of the Most High God. It’s
not just me -- it’s all of us -- and Daughters of the
Most High God. We need to start taking our authority back,
because agnosticism, atheism is just another form of Luciferianism.
It is “I am God; I can decide what’s good or evil.”
And we need to get away from all religions, and enter
back into spirituality with the Creator. We need to fall down
on our face and say: Yes, I am here because I signed up
BR: Now, here’s
a question. This will probably be watched by a few tens of
thousands of people.
few tens of thousands of wonderful people, and every single
one of those people is critically important here.
BR: Is that enough? It’s
a tiny fraction
BD: Yeah. The real issue, and it’s almost exactly
like the message that was given by Yeshua, Jesus. His message... He
had a message that was given to the general...
Just like when I do my regular radio show, I talk about: Hey!
Don’t vaccinate your child, because these vaccines
have been determined by globalists that want to poison your
children with vaccines, and I show them the technical
harder for them to accept the fact that the vaccines, like
in sub-Saharan Africa, have plasmids to destroy and cause
infertility. Or the Guardisil vaccine now.
I got contacted by Desiree Rover just Friday night. She has
a radio show in the Netherlands. She used my material and many
others to kind of reference in her radio show to tell people: Hey,
this is a policy by globalists to sterilize little girls and
destroy their health. Right?
And they’re testing vaccines on populations that have
no idea of what they’re signing up for. And some of them
get multiple vaccines and they’re malnourished and it
destroys their health and kills them. Many of them die.
very hard for them to conceive that and then to go to the
next stage. If they listen to all my shows and they listen
to this message...
three chapters of the scroll, and there’s
twelve chapters altogether. The first chapter I released in
1999, which was a warning against America, which I delivered
to 42 cities in Israel.
chapter of the scroll I released in 2005 at Pastor Butch
Paugh’s Conference. And the third chapter of the
scroll, which was tied to my talk at Conspiracy-Con 2008, I
released this May.
I didn’t get a chance to read the scroll but if you
go to ClayandIron.com you can pull up those PowerPoints and
those scrolls. And I’m going to have that, as well as
what’s called the “Prayer of the Twelve Stones.”
need to grasp this in their spirit. It needs to ring the
bell, just like when you go to a Buddhist temple and you
can feel the vibration of the truth. It’s something
What we’re speaking tonight is not just wisdom and not
just knowledge. It’s what I call spirit words. It’s
words that need to ring their spirit no matter what religious
background or lack of it, to know how desperately bad the times
We’re not just looking at a depression here. We’re
looking at the prelude to a financial collapse that’s
a prelude to a false peace treaty that is the startup of a
guaranteed thermonuclear, biological, chemical and scalar war
that will destroy all life on this planet.
BR: And what’s
the time scale? What would the time scale be for this?
BD: I don’t
have all the answers at this point in time.
Give your best guess.
BD: But I can give you some of the signs. The first thing. . .
The signs basically are this: When they divide the city of
Jerusalem, they -- Jewish Rabbis, and this is Rabbinical Law
-- have to have all the elements, the Kalal, the Ashes of the
They have to have the Cohanim, and all the instruments. They
can set up a tabernacle overnight. They have everything, Sea
Cows, and curtains and everything. They can put it on the
Temple Mount in one evening. OK?
But once they start that sacrifice, which has to happen on
the Feast of David, that starts the final clock ticking. That
clock will start on that day. And exactly 1230 days later is
the Feast of Purim, which goes back to hamen.
And people say: Well, why would these things be encoded? Like
the Bible coded in the Bible? It’s because you’re
hearing Voice and Intentions from the highest Creator of the
universe that’s speaking down through the higher dimensional
planes to our world that imprints on a supernatural book that
transcends time and space, which is in the Bible.
That’s why the Bible code’s
there. People say: Well,
why are those things there? It’s there because
it transcends the dimensional planes of time-space because
it’s beyond time-space.
BR: Yes. But the Illuminati know all this. They’ve
already got this.
BD: Well, they’re trying to steer the timeline
away from its intention. Because the future is not solid --
have a role to play here. And when I was brought to the Council,
they were saying, you know, you need to take this seriously.
It’s not written. It’s
not determined at this point in existence, or revelation
of the spirit, what will be that pathway, whether we will
go into a birthing room and have a wonderful delivery of
mankind, or whether we will have an annihilation of the human
race. Or something in between, where a great deal of destruction
occurs and a tiny remnant survives.
why are you here in Oceanside, for example?
completely know. I know one of the purposes is to be here.