Interview transcript - Part 3
Dr. Bill Deagle - Prognosis for Planet Earth - Part 3
Vista, California, September 2008
Bill Deagle (BD): The key idea is this: You need to
have a doing in the spirit before you have a knowing.
In other words, you need to contact the Higher Self to say
why... I’m a human-being not a human-doing.
In other words, you need to be where
supposed to be. You need to be in the position where you’re
supposed to be, and then the things just unfold.
Bill Ryan (BR): Yes.
BD: And this is why all these things have happened to
me. And people say it’s impossible that all these things
could happen to one person. I say: Well, it happens because
I hear and do. Literally.
As you know, the sister of Moses went before the council of
the people back in the ancient times and said, you know: Are
we an ear, and not only prophets?
And the voice of god spoke through the pillar of fire and
said: There is not a man on Earth, hand to hand, eye to
eye, mouth to mouth, who does not speak as another man speaks
to his brother.
the kind of relationship I have with God. I literally can
talk and hear him instantly, [snaps fingers] like that.
Kerry Cassidy (KC): Mm hm.
BD: But people need to know I’m not any better
than anyone else, but I am... If you knew my whole history,
you’d say: Why is this man called to do this?
I’m called to do this because I’ve seen the face
of evil. I’ve seen it not only in myself, I’ve
seen it in others. I have chosen light, not to be
a follower of darkness.
I’ve had numerous opportunities. I’ve had an opportunity
to become a Breve Brother, a Knight of Malta, as early as this
year, earlier this year. I’ve had all kinds of threats.
I’ve had the Pindar come directly to me to say, you know,
to be his replacement as the CEO of Earth, Inc. and the Druidic
a lot of high-level Masons say: Well,
I haven’t even heard of that. Because they think
they’re the ascended ones. They have no idea what they’re
have no idea. They need to repent right now. And, as I say,
if we can pray -- and this is something we have to do. And
the most powerful thing we have is, I call it fore-give. The
word foregive means to create.
means we need to pray for George Soros, who is behind the
Blackstone Group and 9/11, and the current derivatives crises
that’s bringing the world down to a world and
regional banks, and trade zones that are going to cause the
death of millions and set the groundwork afoot for a pandemic.
when starvation occurs, the population gets weakened, and
it’s the perfect groundwork, or cover, for a pandemic
which they’ve already weaponized.
that already been released? Or not released?
BD: There are several avenues by which it can happen.
Back in... How long ago is it now? Gee... back in
about 1995 I was praying and I was told by the angel that I
was supposed to go to Europe. And I said: Well, where? And
the Lord said: You’re going to go to Zurich.
And I said: Well,
I don’t know anybody in Zurich. So
I had some friends that were Canadians, that actually were
in Halifax, Nova Scotia, at the time and they had gone back
to Austria, to Lake Constance.
And I said: Well,
I’ll contact them... the
Santoses. I said, you know: You guys know Zurich? [They
said]: Oh, yeah. We lived there are awhile and we love
So I started going through and googling, you know, checking
out things, trying to find out which organization. The Lord
said: You’re supposed to contact these people here
at Human Life International. So I speak to God, literally,
and he tells me.
So I contact them. I call this guy and he calls me back from
Zurich. And in a very German accent he says: Wonderful!
We’d love to have you come over and speak to our board.
So we arranged tickets. We go and visit our friends in Austria,
and we go over to Zurich. And I told them what I was told,
you know -- literally told -- to tell them about was
the cybernetic super-soldier program, human genetic engineering,
and the chimeric monstrosities they’re making in underground
facilities. And to speak against abortion and euthanasia, and
selective abortions which are... 93% of the abortions on Earth
And so, after two and a half hours of me speaking to a board
of scientists -- giant boardroom, you know, 24 doctors and
scientists, whatever, the International Board of HLI -- they
you sit down, doctor. We give you things.
And they went into another room and brought this stack, about
a foot of documents. I said: Well, what is this? They
said: You stay here. And they gave me some more water
and whatever, and they lectured to me for two hours.
And they had documents there of the weaponization of the avian
flu, smuggled out of the World Health Organization in Basel.
Actual documents. OK? That they had got gene bioengines, and
they had actually resurrected the corpses of people that died
of the H1N1 back in 1918, that they were paid for by the Rothschilds... All
I’m totally in shock! I mean, these guys are telling
me this stuff. I’m thinking: Why am I in Zurich?
And after they finished that, which was about 6 inches, then
they gave me documents, that they had these plasmid vaccines
that were injected every month. And they were drawing blood
from women in sub-Saharan Africa, testing to see if they create
antibodies against human chorionic gonadotropin to sterilize
And I had another 4 inches of documents that showed that AIDS
was completely weaponized by cross-genetically engineering
the Visna virus with other viruses. They gave me the actual
sitting there kind of freaked out, you know, wondering...
And of course we went to dinner afterward with these doctors.
And they said: Now you bring all this – I
brought it all back with me, of course -- to North America.
thing is, back in... You see how God puts me
in all these positions. Back in 1974 I had finished a year
of medical school and someone tried to recruit me from a U.S.
government agency to take a year off medical school and go
to Uganda for a special virus project. Because I had worked...
I went into medicine, I was working on my honors degree and
I finished my Ph.D. research project in 5 months, although
I didn’t write the thesis, for Dr. Robert Brown, who
was one of the doctors working on the T-virus project in Bethesda.
So I was already a bio-weaponeer. OK?
you turned that down?
BD: I turned it down. I told them there was no way I
was going to do it. But I had recalled this from ’74
to 1997 when they gave me all those documents, and here it
I was also
the whistle-blower that blew the whistle that the Factor-8
that was used for hemophiliacs... I was the main whistle-blower
for the Canadian government and those lawsuits that got all
those doctors, that they were getting it and combining all
Because I had a pile of hemophiliacs when I was practicing
in Calgary that were dying of AIDS, specifically because
they gave them purposely-contaminated Factor-8.
And all these things, all my experiences from my life, were
laid out so that I would be what I am now, a beaten piece
of steel like a Samurai sword...
enough for the truth and willing to tell the people the truth,
to tell people that you need to make the right decisions.
You cannot believe your pastor, your rabbi, your Buddhist
master, your ascended masters, your ET contactees. You need
to contact your Self, the
spirit of the Most High God.
to analyze what’s going on in foreign policy
and money. For example, money, as Socrates says, only means
exchange. Why are we willing to do spending cuts that will
starve people? Why are we going to bail out 700 billion dollars
to banksters that are gambling on the future, that’re
going to guarantee that we’re going to have a crash and
the death of civilization?
BD: Why? And they know that starvation leads to war,
pestilence, and the crash of civilization. And it’s very
fragile. And they’re purposely bringing this
the start... This phase right now, with the collapse of the
banks, this is the start toward world government, world bank,
regional currencies, chipping the population. And they’re
ready, probably by next year.
I’ve already calculated, and have been told by my sources,
both natural and classified, as well as supernatural, there’s
about a 30% chance of an avian pandemic this year, and a 70%
chance next year, and 100% chance the year after.
you say this year, you mean in the next 12 months?
between now and the end of December .
BD: That’s very disturbing. OK? But we’re
talking about going up to 70%, which means next year we have
a very grave possibility of a thermonuclear attack at least
on the Bashear reactor and 450 targets. And a counter-response
which is going to release a radiation cloud and cut off the
world to the Strait of Hormuz.
And I was taken in 1988 -- one of my very first visions --
I was taken up high above Saudi Arabia, in the spirit, and
I actually looked down. And I looked and I could see the carrier
groups all assembling.
And this was 1988, twenty years ago. And I looked down, and
the angel told me, he says: Watch this place. Because this
is where it will all start -- the Strait of Hormuz.
how close are we to that now?
BD: We are so close we can feel the breath of the dragon.
People need to pull back... And none of these people that
call themselves candidates for president that are in the two
leading parties are safe. Neither one.
Obama is backed by Zbigniew Brzezinski, that wrote The
Grand Chessboard, that was the head of the Security
Council, that was one of the CFR members in Georgetown University.
He is personally determined to directly confront,
with thermonuclear and other weapons, Russia. OK?
BD: We have Joe Biden, who released this information
just in the last two weeks. This guy is very clever but very
evil. And he’s directly involved with the cover-up of
the Israeli Purdue OxyContin scam, where there’s a Purdue
Pharma plant in Israel distributing billions of dollars of
illegal OxyContin in America. And we have the proof of it.
OK? This is not conjecture.
got McCain, who spent five and a half years under the control
of a Russian mind-control scientist, the top Russian mind-control
scientist. And I heard him on the debate. And actually I
think he won the debate against Obama, because Obama, if
reading a teleprompter, is not that smart.
was sharper and he showed more presidential... But
McCain is determined that he’s going to invade -- as
well as Obama -- he’s going to invade Pakistan and get
to the Waziristani nukes. He’s going to expand NATO directly
on the back doorstep of the Russians. It’s going to piss
off the Russians. And the Russians have got some very, very
BR: Yes, and they’re
pissed off already.
BD: They’re very pissed off, and they personally
don’t want to do this. They’d much rather
negotiate and get richer. Right?
BD: The Russians are not interested in this. But the
people behind the American government, the Satanic Luciferian
Reptilians, they’re absolutely determined to bring this
agenda toward a final culmination, a thermonuclear war. OK?
They’re determined to do it.
BD: And they’re pulling Russia... As
it says in Ezekiel 38 and 39: I shall pull you with hooks in your
jaw. Oh Rosh, chief prince Gog of Meshech, Tubal and Rosh.
And you know what that is? Gog is the name of a Hebrew
man. Rosh: Russia. Meshech: Moscow. Tubal:
Tublosk. This is Russia. They’ve armed to the teeth all
got the S-300 anti-aircraft system; they’ve
got the Yakontz hypersonic cruise missile; they’ve
got EMP weapons; and they’ve armed to the teeth Syria
and Iran; and they are building the largest outside-of-Russia
naval base right now in Syria.
BR: Yes. And they’re
poking the Bear with a sharp stick.
BD: They’re poking the Bear with a sharp stick.
So, what we’ve got to do is, people need to get in a
panic here. It’s not a matter of voting for Palin and
McCain, or voting for Obama. Either alternative guarantees
a thermonuclear war.
Is this election going to happen to schedule, or could something
happen to it?
BD: It really doesn’t matter. It doesn’t
matter. Even if it’s delayed 6 months, you know, it doesn’t
matter if McCain gets in there and Palin.
that I’m particularly concerned about is... Someone
like McCain, if he lives long enough, which I’m very
concerned about, because he’s had a third recurrence
of a melanoma. He’s had a lymphatic spread. And I know
a lot of... I do consulting, helping people integrate
with treatments for cancer all around the world.
he’s getting some of the new classified anti-cancer
therapies with some of the people that I know in Europe or
elsewhere -- like Dr. Tulio Simoncini and
Dr. Munoz in Tijuana, and other places, where you get IPT and
so on -- he’s a dead man.
or another cancer is going to come back and kill him, and
he’ll probably die in his term. And we’re
not talking about a 30% chance. We’re probably talking
80% chance in the first two years of his term, if he does become
president, that President Palin will take over.
President Palin doesn’t, I don’t
think, have the... To me she’s pro-life which is positive
for a lot of Christian rights. [Ed. Note: the political
right] She’s going to drag a lot
of votes that way. But in terms of her ability to have a rational
judgment, with the extreme religious background that she has,
is going to be very disturbing.
Now, I’m for the pro-life issue and I’m for the
fact she’s got spirituality. But when you have religion
and it’s clouded that Israel can do no wrong? That’s
BR: Yes. She says that Iraq is God’s
BD: Right. And that’s really dangerous. And you
can’t say Israel can do no wrong when the whole nation
of Israel is Sabbatian Luciferian Satanist Jews. OK? Who do
not worship the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, and have nothing
to do with she thinks...
And they laugh at her and think that this Christian fool is
going to back us no matter what, and allow us to attack Iran.
BR: Yeah. And she’s
playing straight into their hands.
BD: Right. She’s playing right into their hands.
And, of course, they’re using her as a card to manipulate.
And on the other hand, we’ve got Obama and there’s
a trail of strange things going on behind him.
you know this because...
BD: I’ve got so many contacts you would not believe
it. I can’t... I’ve spent a lot of time on the...
Obama is a, if you want to call it, messianic figure.
is a very dangerous man. In fact, of all of the options we
have, Obama is the most dangerous of all of them.
BR: OK. So that’s
the most-worst version.
BD: He’s the most-worst version. Even Biden would
be better. Biden might actually have a clue, even though he’s
a bit of a criminal.
KC: But our understanding is that Biden probably won’t
make it to the...
it possible that Hillary could be back on the ticket?
BD: It’s possible. It’s
you heard that?
BD: The thing is that Hillary, other than Obama, is
the most scary individual I’ve ever met. She is very
brilliant, incredibly evil, and her family, the Rodhams, have
been Luciferian Satanists for hundreds, if not thousands, of
years. She has a lot of stuff attached to her.
BR: So what’s
the way out of all that crap?
way out of it is to just get the population woke up, to pray
for the leaders, to get the people woke up. If we just get
a tiny minority of the body of mankind to wake up to the
truth of this...
they think they’re atheists or agnostics or
Jews or Christians, they’ve got to stop being Armageddonites.
They’ve got to stop being Sabbatian Jews. They’ve
got to stop being “religious”, thinking: Oh
well, it’s just karma being worked out, in their
got to stop all that foolishness and pick up their septre
and say: We craft the future. We’re
going to determine whether or not mankind is going to survive
what’s coming. And they’ve got to start making
got to start saying: Hey, we’re not
going to participate with a country that’s going to
have a thermonuclear war with Iran. We’re not
You know, as Carlin said: If
you vote for one of these blankey-blank guys or this blankey-blank
guy, you can’t
complain when either one of them starts a thermonuclear war.
But actually people are left with that choice.
BD: They aren’t. They can actually... The
thing is that I think we need to transcend politics. We need
to transcend religion.
to stop thinking that if we make the right decision on the
right leader we’ve solved the problem. The transformation
is not at the leadership level of the White House.
BD: It’s not even at the capitol building of the
state. It’s not even at the town council. It’s
in us. We have to decide that we’re no longer
going to participate in these things. We’re not going
to participate in churches or pastors or politicians doing
these things. We’re not going to participate in a financial
collapse that’s going to starve millions, and start a
pandemic. We’re not going to participate in doing those
Well, but nuts and bolts and on a spiritual level, their
choice is clear, I would say.
BD: Yeah. But they have to make hard decisions. See,
those decisions are so hard that most people don’t want
to swallow that. So they want to either attack me or any other
messenger giving this message.
BD: They don’t
want to make the tough choices to say: Hey, I’m not going to participate with what
they’re planning on doing. I’m going to make certain
that I’m not going to vote.
give you an example. What happens if nobody went out to vote?
What if everybody said: Hey, we know both
these guys, either party, is going to support the 700-billion
you know, in the next two weeks, long before the election,
they’re going to sign this damn thing. And
if they sign it, they guarantee the -- you could call it the
controlled demolition of the economy of the world, and the
de-evolution to the “mark of the beast,” which
is coming. You know?
I’ve walked personally through the array, and either
party is going to guarantee that. Now, whether it’s Obama
and his messianic vision, or it’s McCain and Sarah Palin
with her Armageddonite vision, it doesn’t matter. The
devil will move forward like a snake pushing itself on its
KC: OK. We’ve also gotten information about October
. And I’m sure you’ve heard Half
I can tell you what... Yeah.
have thirteen different, actually fourteen now, different
data-points, lined up in October...
BD: Yeah. Well, you’re
correct. Somewhere between the 7th and 15th of October. And
I get the same feeling.
BD: A lot of the time I don’t know... Like I’ll
go to bed at night, wake up in cold sweats, get visions...
BD: ...see, you know, people crying. I see starvation.
I see privation. I see darkness, a lot of very bad visions,
very jumbled up, and I can’t tell you what it is specifically.
But I can tell you what makes sense to me if I just take my
BD: I think we’re
going to have a financial crash.
BD: I think the financial crash is going to be so severe
and so painful that the grocery store shelves are going to
be completely empty in the very, very near future. I mean,
it could only last for maybe a few weeks, but it’s going
to frighten people so badly, that no matter what the government
presents to them -- in terms of world government, regional
currency, the Amero, whatever -- they’re going to take
when they can go back to buying their latte, and go to the
movie theater, and put gas in their car at a reasonable price,
they’re going to say: Thank God we’ve
I can tell you right now, what I see is empty shelves.
BD: And martial law. Remember now, martial law will
be almost like a theater. It’ll be on... They brought
back an entire division. I posted up the article on Clay and
Iron, and the dates. So if you go to ClayandIron.com, I posted
up that article.
an entire division back to America to be permanently stationed
for civil defense inside the United States. That’s
650,000 battle-hardened troops, with heavy artillery and weapons,
that’ll control the civilian population. They don’t
need to be in their home country.
that’s on that screen there [television],
I call Satan-vision. OK? In that box. What they need to do
is they need to frighten people into accepting whatever the
BD: So they need a thing like the Katrina thing in one
or another city or two or three cities. Maybe they need an
event like... They’ve been working on this idea
of blowing up dirty bombs or nukes in two or three cities.
got the long and short list.
both the long and the short list -- and I happen to be living
very near to one of those. The very top of both lists is
BD: They’re number one.
think so, too.
Detroit, all those three cities are on both long and short
feels to us that there is a violent event coming up.
there is a very violent event coming up. And I see a financial
collapse, and I see, at the very latest by next year, a thermonuclear
explosion in a U.S. city, one or more cities, and civil war
in America. OK?
And then a period of false peace after that. And a period
of, you know, them setting up this temple thing and kind of
scaring the crap out of the population of the planet.
BD: And then I see this time period of 1230, literally
marked off. Because, remember now, this is a religious ceremony.
You see, the Bible isn’t just a thing for the Jews or
for the Christians. It’s a Luciferic ceremony.
BD: And they’re
marching through this as a clock, as an anti-type to what
they see happening. So that the globalists and the Illuminati
use this almost as a religious ceremony to kind of snub the
face of the Creator of the universe. And say: No, we’re
God. So that’s why this
timepiece is being marched on in Israel.
BD: OK? And when people grasp that... The reason
why I’m going calling you up today is because I don’t
know who he’s, but there is another witness. OK? He’s
the Witness of Yehudah, the witness of Judah. He’s a
Torah Jew who does know this.
greatest prophecy that was ever given by Yeshua Ha’Masaich
was The Prodigal Son, that the Ephraim, which is the
10 tribes, would be hauled away, scattered over the Earth by
the Assyrians, and that they would return, and they would bring
on their shoulders, literally the ability to know how to protect
the Jews on Earth.
the holocaust is coming, Jews. You’ve got to
know that there is a holocaust coming to kill every Jew on
Earth, Sabbatian or not.
reason is they have to expunge the Earth of any knowledge
of a Creator God. It doesn’t matter if you’re a
Buddhist, or you’re a native Hopi or whatever. They’ve
got to get rid of them because there’s a portion of truth
that was given specifically by the Creator to the Jews that
other peoples did not receive in fullness.
there’s a Bible code in the Bible. Why is
that code in the Bible? Why is it not in some Hopi things,
or some tablets from some other civilization? It was there
because it was set up as an object-lesson to ask of the entirety
of mankind: How will you deal with Israel?
How do you deal with it? As it says in Jeremiah, you know: There
will be a firepot burning all the nations around it. They’re
literally setting a detonator to blow up the Earth.
BD: And they have weapons that can. They’ve
got anti-matter weapons that can turn the Earth into shards,
like, you know, like one of these planets that died in the
ancient conflicts that they talk about, that was destroyed
and created the asteroid belt between Mars and Earth.
BD: They have those weapons now. They have things that
you just can’t imagine that can be done that could blow
the Earth, literally, into tiny fragments.
BD: OK? But whether we’ll survive is not a geopolitical
thing of who we vote for or whether or not we’re going
to kind of will our minds. Like, you know, some of
the people figure if we just will it, it’s all going
going to require some painful decisions on our part to say: Hey,
we’re going to march in every city
capital of every city. We’re going to march in every
church to throw down their dogma -- which is their “am-god”.
They’re not God.
to hear the Voice of the Creator, whatever religion they
are, whatever spirituality, whatever agnosticism. If they
don’t, they’re not going to survive, because this
Earth is marked for judgment. It’s the end of the road.
And if they don’t turn back now...
And that means all those ones who are called as prophets,
of every race and tongue and people, you need to come out with
a grand chorus and sing the song, as it says in the Bible,
the Song of Moses. You need to sing the song of humanity that
is a spiritual body that knows these things. We intuitively
talked to John Boncore, whose name is Splitting the Sky, who’s a Mohawk prophecy-giver -- and he said this
on air just this week.
He said there was a prophecy given, you know, untold centuries
ago, that a great, a young Mohawk would come and give a prophetic
warning to the peoples of Earth.
has, better than any other person, better than Phil Berg,
or anyone else that I’ve heard, put the financial
trail of blood-money behind 9/11 together.
need to grasp this, that if we don’t get back
in touch with spirit instead of religion, we’re going
to all die, killing each other for religion.
BD: And for different financial agendas. Or we’re
going to save the planet because of carbon dioxide, which is
a lie. You know, we’re polluting ourselves to death,
so we won’t even be able to reproduce two generations
And it’s all by design. It’s designed that even
if we didn’t have a pestilence or nuclear war, or whatever,
that life on this planet is soon going to die. We are a dying
If you’re visiting here as an archeologist from another
distant time and another space to visit Earth, you’d
say: These people are suicidal. They kill their prophets,
just like it says in the Bible, you know, between the brazen
laborer and the holy of holies.
I’m called to speak as Moses and as Elijah, to blow
the trumpet, which I’ve done on my show. And God has
given me a voice to speak to them and warn them. We are at
the time of The End. And that’s why my other website’s
called clay and iron.
They need to know: Come out of Babylon, which means come out
of confusion. Come out of religion. Come back in relationship.
lies. And the first lie is what you are. You’re
not a biological machine. You’re not an advanced piece
of slime that’s evolved. You’re an infinite being
that has the right to choose to have life and to live
it abundantly for thousands of years, literally, you know,
and have contact with advanced civilizations, and to survive,
and to thrive.
you don’t choose life today... Just like
Moses, when he set the peoples between Mount Ebal and Mount
Gerizim, we as a civilization will die.
BR: Now, stepping back into the Black-Ops world, you
will know that we’ve been contacted by time-traveling
future humans with a message.
BR: And it’d
be interesting to hear your take on this. But our understanding
is that there are alternative
timelines. Not all of them are catastrophic.
do have choices.
not a done deal.
BR: And what do you know of those contacts, those messages,
and what opportunities we have, and how those messages have
been acted upon by the people who’ve received them?
BD: Firstly, the way I would answer that is that the
universe is stranger than even they can imagine. In other words,
when you’re dealing with people... Let’s say
that we have posited that there are alternative timelines,
and these people have traveled back from multiple timelines.
If we think
of the -- I call it the universe as a One-“I”-Voice,
in other words, there is a unification of All-That-Is because
what the universe is, is not energy portrayed through advanced
equations in a cybernetic world. It is literally the passage
of spirit through a montage of images.
And when you start to understand that, there is only one.
In other words, there is not... There are maybe multiple possible futures. . .
there is only ONE real future.
BD: But we do have a choice because... I
say we foregive. We
actually are creating whichever timeline we are going get,
whichever rail we are going to get on.
BD: Otherwise, it would be purposeless to even have
human beings because we’d just be automatons because
the future is already set in stone and whatever is going to
happen will happen.
BR: And we aren’t.
We are actually in the image of the Creator. We are actually
the, if you want to call it, the incarnation of the I AM
that said: Let there be light
in the universe, as human beings in this world.
And there’s other beings of other types that are across
the cosmos that are incarnations of the same I AM. And they’ve
come to the knowledge that they are and have that
responsibility to be, in a sense, midwives to Earth in the
birthing-room of this civilization.
literally in the birthing-room now.
BR: Yes. But, what do you know, and what have you heard,
of those messages from future humans who presumably are altruistically
trying to help in some way? Because they’re looking back
through their own history saying, you know: Don’t
do that stuff because this happened to us. Or some other
message. What do you know about this?
have to use a great deal of discernment. Because one of the
things about alternative timelines, in terms of an actual
being coming back from a timeline, is you have to think: Is this inserted ideas?
Because the very nature of the universe is that there is one timeline
that you follow. There may be alternatives that you have a
choice of. But you have to use discernment.
got to remember that, in a sense, we live in a matrix. We
live in a cybernetic world that, to a great extent, is the
manifestation of a higher dimensional reality of being that
transcends our physical body.
I try to tell people this repeatedly, is that your mind,
i.e., which is equal to your soul, is not physical. It doesn’t
exist on this plane. So when people talk about psychic phenomena
and doppelgangers and other things,
what they’re really referring to is something that’s
just the very nature of what we are.
mind doesn’t exist on this level. OK? The
physical mind is just a chemical computer. It’s a bunch
of neurons connected; that you’re connected to nuclei,
and our eyes and our physical senses.
physical brain is not what we are. It’s connected
through “the cord of the living waters” to our
physical brain. And so, if we don’t understand what kind
of a being we are, we won’t make correct decisions.
of this idea of timelines, or even incarnation... For example
if you talk to people about incarnation, they’ll
say: Well, 40% of the incarnations are supposedly from
even non-human beings. OK?
the way I tell the people is, I say: Maybe
you’re just kind of picking up, almost like a radio
tuned into a certain frequency, certain object-lessons or
spiritual things so that you can understand something you’re
supposed to learn or remember in this lifetime.
words, you’re not becoming... Does
that make sense?
BD: So that’s why I see this as being a misinterpretation
of it. OK? So this idea that there is alternative timelines,
I think is a deception, a very, very significant deception.
Because it says that the world is a mechanistic Cartesian world
that’s created by energetics and we’re just kind
of like leaves that are pushed along by energy, space, and
time, and we really don’t have any choices to our future.
we actually ARE the Gods of this world. But I’m
not talking about replacement of the Creator God.
I mean hearing the voice and doing the will. And that’s
a very different thing. So, in other words, reality is created
on this energetic plane by spirit. It’s not the other
BD: And that’s the problem we’re in. So,
when you hear people saying that they’ve had physical
contact, the deception is very, very powerful.
right here now with mankind, as is said in the Eschaton that
transcends time and space, to make a decision for life,
whether this civilization is going to survive what’s coming or it’s
going to be annihilated.
very close to that, and we can see the object-lesson of Israel
as the final crux. Just look at the foreign policy and look
at the financial policy. Look at all of these things.
The two groups that are running the world right now, that
are running -- literally driving it into the ground -- are
the Teutonic Knights; the Hansiatic League.
Right? That believes that their bloodline is descended from
the kings and queens of Europe and all the czars of Russia,
the Caesars, believe their bloodline is descended from Jesus
Christ and King David. Why? That’s bizarre! Why?
But it’s the truth.
talk to Jordan Maxwell and others and find it out, Michael
Tsarion and others. Why? Why? Why would that be?
the other group are the Sabbatians. Right? The Sabbatians
are basically Satanists. These are, you know... Even though,
you know, they’ll say: Well, we’re communists --
the Israelis -- because they had the Russians there at the
inception of the Israeli state. They’re not. They believe
they’re God. There is no God.
trying to say, just like Bill Maher and his movie Religulous. You
know, obviously he’s a Kabbalist. He believes in the
Kabbalah. And the highest level of the Kabbalah... If
you go deep into Masonry, or entirely, you go right back to
the Temple of Solomon. They’re completely... They all look Jewish,
but they’re not. They’re Satanic. They go right
back to Atlantis and before.
BD: These were adopted into it and invaded into it at
the time of Solomon. That’s why they’ll say they’ll
elevate Solomon, and that Solomon was a great leader. No. He
allowed the body of the truth of ancient Israel to be infected
by this monstrosity.
BR: Mm hm. Getting back to what you were saying about
the reality, or otherwise, of these alternative timelines,
what I hear you saying is, it’s almost like an intellectual
trick, because it doesn’t really count.
BR: What’s in front of us is what’s in front
of us, and that’s our real responsibility.
BR: And anything else... It’s almost like it’s
not relevant whether it’s “real” or not,
because it depends on what you mean by real.
the really, real situation is here and now.
BR: And that’s
the only thing that matters.
and also it might give you a false decision-tree to base
your ideas on and therefore steer you in a direction of wasted
BD: That’s the first thing. Wasting action. And
wasted effort. For example, people think there’s going
to be a difference if we elect McCain/Palin or Obama/Biden.
I don’t think it makes a difference. It might make a
difference if you had somebody like Cynthia McKinney or Chuck
Baldwin. But how likely is it they’d be elected president?
BR: Yeah. It’s
not going to happen.
not going to happen. The problem is, Cynthia McKinney is
a black woman. She’s brilliant; she’s
tough. She’s calling for a 9/11 investigation. This woman
would make an absolutely amazing president. OK? But how likely
is it for her to get in there?
problem is they may also come with baggage, what we call
environmental baggage, which is, we’ve got to reduce
the world’s oxygen/carbon dioxide. That’s crazy!
It’s not science. OK?
I was an oceanographer. I did work with Greenpeace. Carbon
dioxide is what makes the plants, including the phytoplankton
in the upper 10 metres of the benthic layer of the oceans produce
all the oxygen. And our oxygen level now is down from what
it was in ancient Mesozoic era, from 30%, down to what it is
know, I think what it is, we have to stop looking for an
external messiah where all these so-called great religions...
Like for example, Mr. Ahmadinejad thinks he’s going to
see the Imam-Mahdi, or the Christians think they’re going
to see a messiah...
BD: ...come in the clouds, you know whether... Which
there are a bunch of people who think the ETs will save us.
BD: Right. They think the ETs... You see, this “ET
save us” stuff is crazy stuff, too.
BD: The fact is, what’s
going to save us is us.
You know, it’s like the inverse of Pogo’s statement
there, you know: I’ve seen the enemy and the enemy
is us. I’ve seen the messiah and the messiah is
BD: I hope this kind of gets people to kind of drop
their old paradigms and I hope I get them to, you know, like
Marshall McKluen, “tune in and drop out.” In other
words, drop out of false lies, whether it’s politics
or religion or thinking these other things are solutions. Become
personally responsible. Become public and interact with other
Don’t think that, by default, if you don’t say
anything about it you’re not responsible for the death
of 15- to 32-million Iranians and a radiation cloud that circulates
the planet and destroys your own health.
sins of omission are greater than the
sins of commission. And the sins of silence are greater
than the sins of action.
I second that. And this is where we ask for everyone to take
BR: And it’s
all got something to do with you.
BD: Right. Absolutely. I hope it transforms some hearts.
As Yeshua Ha’Masaich Jesus said: The message
of the kingdom is now, which means, it’s now, as
soon as you attend to shemah, to hear and do the will
of the Creator God of the universe and not to think that you
can set external commandments and create peace on Earth. What
you’ll do is you’ll create pieces of Earth.
BR: Is there any final sound-byte that you... Is there
anything that you haven’t said that you want to leave
these people with right now? Because this is the chance.
what I would say is, firstly, prepare for a series of spasms
BR: When you say “prepare,” you
mean physically and logistically prepare?
BD: Spiritually prepare first. But physically prepare.
Have your food and water, have your civil defense. We have
a whole series of civil defense things. I’m actually
working with Gordon Peterson in Homeland Security to stop aircraft
bringing in pandemic viruses.
Prepare to have things to protect yourself from pandemic avian
flu, which we have on our website, nutrimedical.com. Prepare
yourself to be home-quarantined for anywhere from six weeks
to two months or more.
in the world? Or here in America?
BD: Anywhere. Anywhere on the planet. Be prepared for
food shortages on a massive scale, starting as early as this
fall. Be prepared to know how to have... in other words, I
don’t tell people to join the militia. I tell people
to start shooting clubs.
I believe that we need to exert our Second Amendment right,
not so that we can go out and start shooting fellow Americans,
but we can protect ourselves if things get out of hand.
I worked with federal agents at the Federal Center in Denver
and they did simulations and actually were stockpiling pallets
of gold bullion, gold coins, and bales of heroine
to interact with gangs; so that between 4 and 12 days after
a state of national civil emergency, like nuclear war, they
could trade with the gangs that would control every city.
was that, Bill, that you encountered that?
was in 1997.
BR: But that’s
all still in force.
yes, all those things. Their COG [Continuity of Government]
which was set up by George Bush, Sr., made it even more serious.
So that COG plan, and all those things, have been done going
back, like over grades, going back since Eisenhower.
BD: They’ve been doing this for a long time. And
it’s not just in America. You have to understand, these
plans are replicated in one form or another in Canada, in Britain,
in Australia, in African nations, in China. They have policies.
over 4,000 underground facilities around the world alone.
And in America, two giant facilities besides the little ones,
that are a mile-and-a-half to four miles down.
they’ve been going crazy. And most of the illegal
money is drug money coming from the illegal sale of heroine
and cocaine, OxyContin, Ecstasy, etc., three-quarters of a
trillion dollars into weird projects.
BD: And again, they’re addicted to this. They’re
addicted to money that isn’t under the scrutiny of the
Congress or Senate. And I don’t think, if either party
is elected, they’re going to steer us away from this.
to get away from thinking the political system is going to
solve this. It’s not. Or the religious, you
know. A lot of people think if they just go pray a whole lot
in church, whatever church they belong to? They’re crazy.
need to start taking action. We mean action to the street,
to their neighbors and they need to say: Hey,
I don’t want to participate in the winding down of civilization.
BD: Because they need to see that this is the first
stage here. This is the devolution of the economy. And the
next stage after the devolution of the economy and a release
of a pandemic or martial law -- and it won’t just be
in America -- is the hard-chipping of the population, forced
vaccination, pandemic, and the hard kill’s going to start.
BD: And I’m
talking about hard kill, where
they’re going to try to kill 90% of human beings on the
planet with either pandemics, injected viruses, lethal weapons
systems or whatever, or starvation just because of economic
chaos. And people say: Oh no. They wouldn’t do that.
I have contacts inside the Canadian and U.S. government that
have said, if there is a total breakdown of society for 30
days, half the population in Canada and the same in the States
would be dead.
from a pandemic. From violence.
Yep. People will do it themselves. Yeah.
BD: The violence will be... Just take a city, like,
let’s say you had a city like Los Angeles and you took
out 20 blocks with a 10-kiloton nuclear weapon, with a population
kill of let’s say 200,000. And California devolved into
a state where there’s no trucks going anywhere with any
food. And this is a place where it’s a breadbasket.
This state would be a seething caldron of death, and half
the population would probably be dead within 30 days. Just
because of the roving gangs shooting each other up, and trying
to grab food that was left and getting trucks and whatever.
would be insane. It would make Road Warrior look
like a party. And people say: Oh no, it couldn’t
get that bad. I said: The guys who told me were special
forces that worked at the Federal Center that told me this. And
they shocked me back in ’97 when they told me this stuff.
And all of this is being modeled as well.
BD: Yeah. So I tell people they’ve got to start
preparing for disaster. And then we’ll come back out
of that. Because when they bring it out, the next thing is: Oh,
that wasn’t too bad. It was only two weeks of martial
law. Or six weeks.
BR: Yes. That’s
just to get people acclimatized to the idea.
like Katrina, you know. We let the people in Katrina now
live in trailers that would ruin their health or they have
homes that are still loaded with mold that are killing them.
let them federalize parts of the country. That’s
totally against the Constitution. Right? They’re still
federalizing. The city of Detroit’s federalized, the
city of New Orleans. This is a violation of Federal and State
law. What are they doing?
They’re eventually going to federalize the whole country
because they’ve been, grade by grade, running martial
law and admiralty law parallel with the Constitution.
they’re just going to get rid of that,
in George Bush, Jr.’s terms: That GD piece of paper.
just going to throw it away and say: Guess
what guys. We’ve got enough executive orders; we’ve
got enough Blackwater Security worldwide -- which are
the Rothschilds private army. Right? -- And we’re
going to take you on.
BD: OK? So people need to grasp that. And they need
to be prepared for things. And they need to be able to stand
up. And if they don’t stand up, well...
BR: Is it possible that some of the “white hats” in
Intel and the military will stand up themselves?
BD: They are already. I’ve already got contacts
who’ve told me. Like William Fallon, you know, was public.
He said: Not on my watch will you start a war against Iran. They
put two people of Jewish descent in there that are willing
to take orders, that are willing to attack Iran.
in the last year-and-a-half, these Israelis tried to go downtown.
The last time was around June 24th when the American government
allowed 100 Israeli jets to do air maneuvers, and a war game
over Iraqi airspace.
Russians detected it with their satellite-based imaging,
and started to scramble, transfer codes -- for the launch
codes -- for their submarine-launched nuclear missiles, and
their Bear bombers heading toward North America. People don’t
know. We were moments away from a thermonuclear war in June.
heard about that.
mean, most people say: Oh, that doesn’t
happen. You people are crazy. I say: Well, I’ve
got contacts. I went back weeks later and verified it
from my sources.
so people say: Oh, that can’t happen.
You’ve just got a really good imagination. I said: I
wish. I mean, this is a damned nightmare.
BD: And it’s really happening. But I’m brave
enough to say it because I know there’s no alternative.
If I don’t speak out against this...
You can’t move far enough away. You can’t move
to the south island of New Zealand and think you’re going
to be safe. Or Paraguay. There is nowhere on this planet you
can move away from this without it eventually taking you if
you don’t stand up to this evil.
So if I
have any messages: Prepare for disaster. Speak out now because
you’re going to be silenced very shortly.
me, they won’t be able to silence your blood-curdling
screams as you’re hauled away in a Black-Op truck in
the middle of the night, or a railcar with the shackles grinding
into your ankles and your wrists, as you’re screaming
because you know you’re going away to the death chambers.
is getting prepared. They’re getting prepared.
They’ve shipped in the plastic coffins. They’ve
got the railcars. They’ve got the incineration stations
all ready. They’ve got everything ready.
People say: Oh,
it doesn’t exist. I say: Well,
my condolences to you because if you want to attack me and
say that I’m a crackerjack because I give all these
spiritual and other things, you’re going to suffer
and then you’re going to die. And you’re not
just going to die a physical death, you’re going to
die a spiritual death.
And one of the reasons why you die a spiritual death is because
you never stood up when you could have done.
The greatest sins are the sins of silence in the face of
We second that.
We absolutely second that. Thank you very much.
thank you so much.
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