[Script Info] ; Written by VisualSubSync 0.9.22.1129 Title: Original Script: ScriptType: v4.00 PlayResX: 640 PlayResY: 480 PlayDepth: 0 Timer: 100.0 [v4 Styles] Format: Name, Fontname, Fontsize, PrimaryColour, SecondaryColour, TertiaryColour, BackColour, Bold, Italic, BorderStyle, Outline, Shadow, Alignment, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, AlphaLevel, Encoding Style: Default,Arial,26,65535,0,0,0,1,0,3,1,0,6,15,15,15,0,0 [Events] Format: Marked, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: Marked=0,0:01:15.37,0:01:22.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,1990, I was speaking at a UFO conference over in Dialogue: Marked=0,0:01:22.65,0:01:27.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Palm Springs, Palm Springs, California. I was speaking at a conference there Dialogue: Marked=0,0:01:28.90,0:01:33.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and this guy I noticed was dressed typical, like a hippie. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:01:34.06,0:01:39.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He had the psychedelic shirt on and thongs. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:01:40.23,0:01:44.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But he had long hair, all the way down his back, long hair, blonde, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:01:44.90,0:01:51.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and was very soft-spoken, and he presented himself as just a hippie. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:01:52.12,0:01:59.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I knew instinctively he was not because his mannerisms spoke of culture, money. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:02:00.04,0:02:04.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,His whole mannerism; he is not who he is portraying himself to be. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:02:05.41,0:02:08.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so, he came over to me and he said, "Jordan, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:02:08.80,0:02:12.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'd like to invite you, take you to dinner across the street. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:02:12.88,0:02:16.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want to talk with you." And I thought this is interesting, whoever this guy is. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:02:16.68,0:02:22.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He looked to be about maybe 30, 35, and he said, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:02:22.25,0:02:24.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"I want to talk with you. I have something to tell you. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:02:25.30,0:02:27.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, would you go to dinner with me?" I said, "Sure". Dialogue: Marked=0,0:02:27.22,0:02:30.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we go across the street. It was in Palm Springs during the summer. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:02:30.70,0:02:35.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was very warm at night. We went to a Mexican restaurant, sat outside. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:02:35.80,0:02:38.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was a beautiful night. And he said: Dialogue: Marked=0,0:02:39.55,0:02:43.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"I have something to tell you. It's not going to happen Dialogue: Marked=0,0:02:43.67,0:02:47.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,right now. It's going to happen later on in your life so you don't have to worry about it now. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:02:47.91,0:02:51.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But one day you're going to have two men come to you Dialogue: Marked=0,0:02:51.65,0:02:56.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they're going to ask you to go with them to a very important city Dialogue: Marked=0,0:02:56.62,0:03:00.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the East Coast. And they will not threaten you. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:03:00.96,0:03:04.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There will not be any threats but they're going to ask you to come with them Dialogue: Marked=0,0:03:05.06,0:03:08.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they are going to bring you Dialogue: Marked=0,0:03:09.08,0:03:15.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to a very important place back East, where very powerful people are. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:03:15.74,0:03:19.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the reason why they're coming for you Dialogue: Marked=0,0:03:20.32,0:03:24.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is they have a business proposition they want to make with you. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:03:24.51,0:03:29.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They got a business proposition and they want to talk with you about it." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:03:30.22,0:03:33.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said, "You can agree to go with them because they will not harm you." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:03:33.83,0:03:35.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said, "They're just businessmen." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:03:36.60,0:03:41.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said, "But when you go, the building you will go into has..." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:03:42.19,0:03:50.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I can't remember if he said 12 or 13, I think he said 13 steps. Maybe it was 12. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:03:50.59,0:03:56.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Anyway, he said, "But, there will be beautiful marble steps and there will be 12 of them. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:03:57.79,0:04:02.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When you're walking up those marble steps, you'll remember I told you that this was going to happen. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:04:03.59,0:04:07.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the two guys will be bringing you to meet a very important man." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:04:08.55,0:04:16.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said, "The proposition is going to be simply this; that if you can do your work Dialogue: Marked=0,0:04:16.62,0:04:21.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and leave certain subjects alone, do whatever you want, talk about anything you want Dialogue: Marked=0,0:04:21.51,0:04:27.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on all of this, the religion, and philosophies and all this stuff, do whatever you want here, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:04:27.22,0:04:31.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but leave these subjects alone. Forget them. Don't even talk about them. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:04:33.39,0:04:40.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then, if you can agree to that, they will then... he said to me, "They will make you their golden boy. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:04:41.79,0:04:47.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You will be on magazine covers, you will be in newspapers, they will promote you in movies Dialogue: Marked=0,0:04:48.06,0:04:55.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you will be living very good. And they will protect you and promote you Dialogue: Marked=0,0:04:55.53,0:04:58.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you'll have a very good life." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:04:59.48,0:05:04.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so I said, "Suppose I decide I don't want the deal?" Dialogue: Marked=0,0:05:04.06,0:05:07.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He said, "They're not going to threaten you, it's just a business deal. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:05:07.97,0:05:14.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what they will say to you, what this man will say to you, {\i1}Well, if you cannot agree to this,{\i0} Dialogue: Marked=0,0:05:15.89,0:05:21.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}then we will have to consider you to be our enemy and we will have to act accordingly.{\i0}" Dialogue: Marked=0,0:05:22.86,0:05:27.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said, then, and they made a very big point of this, he said, "They will tell you Dialogue: Marked=0,0:05:28.74,0:05:31.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you don't need to make a decision now. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:05:32.61,0:05:37.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You tell them how long you want before giving them a decision. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:05:37.87,0:05:43.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If it's six days, six weeks, six months, it doesn't matter to them. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:05:43.36,0:05:48.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They don't care. You tell them how long you want to think about it. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:05:48.55,0:05:51.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Whatever you tell them, they will accept. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:05:52.30,0:05:57.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But when the day comes that you set, you have to give them an answer. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:05:57.25,0:05:59.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}Are you with us or against us?{\i0}" Dialogue: Marked=0,0:06:00.50,0:06:05.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said, "That day you have to give them an answer Dialogue: Marked=0,0:06:05.37,0:06:08.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they are very serious. They can make you or break you." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:06:09.19,0:06:15.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I asked him, "Why are you telling me this?" Dialogue: Marked=0,0:06:15.57,0:06:20.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said, "Because it's going to happen. It will happen. Not for a long time Dialogue: Marked=0,0:06:21.01,0:06:27.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but one day it will happen, so I think it is better that you start thinking about this, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:06:28.08,0:06:32.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it's going to be serious. You're going to be facing some very powerful people Dialogue: Marked=0,0:06:33.77,0:06:37.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they're not playing games. So you better start thinking about it." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:06:39.13,0:06:41.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I said to him, "Well, what should my answer be?" Dialogue: Marked=0,0:06:41.56,0:06:47.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He said, "Oh, no, no, I can't do that. That's up to you. That's your call." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:06:48.27,0:06:53.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said, "All I will tell you is this, that whatever your decision you will make, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:06:53.56,0:06:58.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will affect you when you die. That I will tell you. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:06:59.99,0:07:05.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you make the wrong decision, when you die you're going to pay for it on the other side. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:07:05.66,0:07:07.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're going to be waiting for you." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:07:08.25,0:07:15.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, the implication was, I got from it, if you want to live good now, go with the flow. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:07:16.15,0:07:21.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But when you die, you've got a spiritual price you have to pay Dialogue: Marked=0,0:07:21.30,0:07:23.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because you, you know, you sold out, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:07:24.36,0:07:27.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,kind of thing. He didn't say that but that's what I gathered. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:07:28.25,0:07:34.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That whoever your spiritual companions are in the universe sent you here not to sell out. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:07:35.25,0:07:40.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so, he said, "So, just think about it. It'll come one day. That's it." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:07:41.45,0:07:45.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so he used to show up every now and then he would show up at lectures of mine Dialogue: Marked=0,0:07:45.79,0:07:49.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I would see him. He called himself Cosmos. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:07:50.01,0:07:53.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I said, "What is your real name?" He said, "It's not important, just call me Cosmos." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:07:54.08,0:07:58.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He was always very, very kind, very courteous, very generous with me. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:07:58.82,0:08:04.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he would pop up all the time, any time I would speak in San Francisco he'd pop up. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:08:05.53,0:08:12.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And one day, quite a few years ago, I was in San Francisco giving a lecture, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:08:12.99,0:08:19.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and a lady was buying a tape or book from me at my table, and the book fell on the floor. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:08:20.66,0:08:25.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I couldn't go around the table and pick it up for her but Cosmos was standing next to her. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:08:26.47,0:08:34.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So he leaned down to pick it up for her, and when he did, a medallion fell out of his hippie shirt Dialogue: Marked=0,0:08:35.28,0:08:37.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the moment I saw it I knew what it was. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:08:38.07,0:08:44.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was a brilliantly designed double-headed eagle, Masonic double-headed eagle, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:08:45.52,0:08:48.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with a triangle of a red, probably a ruby. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:08:50.03,0:08:54.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was about that size. It had a triangle ruby Dialogue: Marked=0,0:08:54.63,0:09:00.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with "33" embedded on it, cut on the ruby Dialogue: Marked=0,0:09:00.55,0:09:03.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it was sitting on top of the double-headed eagle of Free Masonry. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:09:05.47,0:09:08.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And when I saw that, for the first time I reached out Dialogue: Marked=0,0:09:08.61,0:09:10.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and grabbed it because it was on a long chain, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:09:11.53,0:09:16.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I said, "Thirty-third degree Mason?" And he said, "No. Council of 33." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:09:17.55,0:09:22.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Meaning he's not just a 33rd degree Mason, he's on the {\i1}Council{\i0} of 33. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:09:22.93,0:09:27.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And Washington, D.C., there are 33 men that run world Masonry. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:09:28.73,0:09:35.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And... It's called The Council of 33 and he's on it. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:09:35.95,0:09:42.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I said to him, "Cosmos, were you a 33rd degree when you talked with me Dialogue: Marked=0,0:09:43.12,0:09:46.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a few years ago in Palm Springs?" He said, "Yes." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:09:47.93,0:09:52.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I said, "I don't understand what's going on here." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:09:52.52,0:09:58.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said to me, "Jordan, you go all around the world talking about political leaders, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:09:58.48,0:10:03.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,talking about the Queen of England, you bad mouth the Pope, you bad mouth people, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:10:04.26,0:10:08.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, you're jumping on everybody and doing what you're doing. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:10:08.40,0:10:11.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Has anyone ever harmed you?" I said, "No." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:10:11.72,0:10:17.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Has anybody tried to arrest you, or to frighten you, or do anything to you?" I said, "No." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:10:18.14,0:10:20.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said, "Have you ever wondered why?" Dialogue: Marked=0,0:10:20.78,0:10:22.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I said, "I've never thought about it." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:10:22.52,0:10:27.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He said, "No one has harmed you because of us. We are protecting you. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:10:28.13,0:10:31.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We follow you everywhere you go. We know what you're doing Dialogue: Marked=0,0:10:31.64,0:10:33.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we're protecting you. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:10:35.13,0:10:37.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Council of 33 is protecting you." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:10:38.95,0:10:41.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I said, "I really don't understand this." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:10:41.29,0:10:46.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said, "You don't need to. All you need to know is that we are protecting you. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:10:46.68,0:10:49.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We know exactly who you are and what you're doing, and where you go. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:10:50.36,0:10:52.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And no one's going to harm you. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:10:52.66,0:10:55.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is the task we have been given, to protect you." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:10:56.95,0:11:04.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I thought, {\i1}Wow{\i0}. And then Dr. Sheyers... it's my Masonic papers later on. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:11:04.76,0:11:09.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That hasn't happened, what he said, hasn't happened, yet. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:11:12.25,0:11:17.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I wouldn't be a bit surprised if it does maybe in the future, if things really start to get big, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:11:17.91,0:11:22.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, and more people hearing and it gets to be big, somewhere along the line. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:11:23.14,0:11:25.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because I had an FBI agent Dialogue: Marked=0,0:11:26.02,0:11:30.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,back in the late 1990s, and FBI agent called me from San Diego. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:11:30.42,0:11:37.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was in Los Angeles, and this guy called me from San Diego and he gave me his name, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:11:37.72,0:11:41.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Special Agent Somebody from San Diego. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:11:41.62,0:11:46.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I said, "Just hold on, I'll call you back," and I hung up. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:11:47.17,0:11:51.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I called Information in San Diego and I got the FBI's phone number. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:11:52.03,0:11:57.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I called that number and I asked for him, and he comes on the phone. So now I know, he is FBI. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:11:58.84,0:12:00.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I said, "Okay, now talk to me." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:12:00.98,0:12:06.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said, "I'm calling you as a social call. It's not business. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:12:06.78,0:12:12.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I just want you to know that the people who work in the FBI, the working class people, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:12:12.41,0:12:15.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we know who you are and what you're doing, and we like what you're doing. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:12:15.76,0:12:17.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We don't have any problem with what you're doing. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:12:18.21,0:12:21.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Many of the people in the FBI like what you're saying. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:12:22.87,0:12:28.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And right now, I just want to let you know your government does not see you as a threat. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:12:29.11,0:12:32.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They don't care what you're talking about: the Pope, and religion. They don't care about that. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:12:33.17,0:12:36.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they don't really see you as a threat because you're not Dialogue: Marked=0,0:12:36.88,0:12:41.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,talking about arms and overthrowing the government. So they don't see you as a threat at all. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:12:41.76,0:12:48.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But," he said, "The reason why they don't see you as a threat is because they know people Dialogue: Marked=0,0:12:48.57,0:12:52.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are hearing you, but nobody is listening. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:12:53.38,0:12:56.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But when people begin to listen to you, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:12:57.10,0:13:02.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,now we're going to have to look at you again, because now you could be politically dangerous. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:13:03.33,0:13:07.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So as long as we see people are just hearing you like they hear everybody else, it's fine. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:13:09.31,0:13:14.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But if we see people starting to listen to you, then we'll have to take another look at you." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:13:14.57,0:13:17.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then he said, "But right now I want to tell you one thing for sure: Dialogue: Marked=0,0:13:18.10,0:13:22.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we in the FBI and your government does not see you as a threat. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:13:23.80,0:13:26.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But if ever you're going to seriously be in trouble, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:13:27.29,0:13:30.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,let me tell you who your enemy will be. It's going to be the church. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:13:31.68,0:13:35.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's most likely going to be the Catholic church. But it's going to be the church. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:13:35.76,0:13:38.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Christian church will be your enemy, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:13:38.40,0:13:42.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because the Christian church is the biggest organized criminal Dialogue: Marked=0,0:13:42.94,0:13:45.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,syndicate in the world, and we know it. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:13:47.15,0:13:50.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The people who are actually running Christianity, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:13:50.10,0:13:53.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,both Protestant and Catholic, behind the scenes, {\i1}are{\i0} Dialogue: Marked=0,0:13:54.01,0:13:56.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the world's best criminals, and we know that." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:13:57.75,0:14:00.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"So," he says, "When you're messing with the church, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:14:00.95,0:14:04.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're messing with underworld criminal syndicates. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:14:05.24,0:14:10.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Money, politics, sex, drugs, the whole thing; they're running it and we know that. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:14:11.80,0:14:16.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So your government doesn't see you as a threat but Dialogue: Marked=0,0:14:16.71,0:14:20.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you keep messing around with the church and the Pope, they're going to see you as a threat." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:14:25.99,0:14:32.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have a young friend who was double-dating with another guy and he called me Dialogue: Marked=0,0:14:33.18,0:14:35.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,after, a couple days later. He said, "Yeah, I went out Dialogue: Marked=0,0:14:36.01,0:14:39.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a couple nights ago with my girlfriend and we double-dated with another couple." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:14:39.87,0:14:43.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said this other guy was a Mossad agent. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:14:44.70,0:14:49.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said, "So at dinner I asked him if he knew anything about you. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:14:50.00,0:14:56.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said: {\i1}Yeah, Israel knows all about Jordan Maxwell. We're painfully well aware of him. Yes.{\i0} Dialogue: Marked=0,0:14:57.09,0:15:00.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}However, there is nothing we can do about him{\i0} Dialogue: Marked=0,0:15:01.49,0:15:06.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}because he doesn't suggest taking up arms, guns, nothing.{\i0} Dialogue: Marked=0,0:15:06.80,0:15:09.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}He's only talking so there's not much you can do about him.{\i0} Dialogue: Marked=0,0:15:11.87,0:15:16.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}But Israel feels that he could{\i0} Dialogue: Marked=0,0:15:16.81,0:15:20.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}be a very serious threat to Israel{\i0} Dialogue: Marked=0,0:15:21.02,0:15:23.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}if he undermines our religion.{\i0} Dialogue: Marked=0,0:15:24.51,0:15:27.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}If he undermines the Jewish religion,{\i0} Dialogue: Marked=0,0:15:27.62,0:15:30.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}that will reflect on Israel politically,{\i0} Dialogue: Marked=0,0:15:31.58,0:15:35.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}and the Middle East. And that would be very dangerous, so we're watching him{\i0} Dialogue: Marked=0,0:15:35.60,0:15:39.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}but there's not much we can do about him right now because he's not{\i0} Dialogue: Marked=0,0:15:39.62,0:15:43.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}suggesting overthrow of governments or anything.{\i0}" So, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:15:43.71,0:15:46.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I just think all those incidents are interesting. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:15:47.50,0:15:53.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was speaking in a conference in Pasadena, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:15:55.18,0:16:04.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mid '90s, and there was like 600 people in the audience; it was a very big conference at a big hotel, in Pasadena. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:16:05.04,0:16:09.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I was a keynote speaker on Saturday morning and I spoke for two hours. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:16:12.57,0:16:17.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,About a week before the conference, Norio Hayakawa, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:16:17.73,0:16:21.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who Bill probably knows, Norio Hayakawa Dialogue: Marked=0,0:16:22.07,0:16:28.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Gary Schultz were putting it on. And the name of it was called {\i1}Need to Know{\i0} seminar. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:16:28.23,0:16:34.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And Norio Hayakawa and Gary Schultz put on the best Dialogue: Marked=0,0:16:34.52,0:16:37.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,shows, I mean, it was sensational. It was really Dialogue: Marked=0,0:16:38.44,0:16:42.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an interesting event. They had great speakers and it was a great event. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:16:43.21,0:16:46.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But Norio and Gary called me about a week before the event Dialogue: Marked=0,0:16:47.00,0:16:51.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and said, "We're going to go over to the hotel just to look around. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:16:52.38,0:16:54.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You want to go with us?" I said, "Yeah, sure." So Dialogue: Marked=0,0:16:55.03,0:16:56.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we go over to the hotel and... Dialogue: Marked=0,0:16:58.25,0:17:02.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So Norio says to me, "Well, what kind of a presentation Dialogue: Marked=0,0:17:02.87,0:17:07.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are you going to do and what do you need? Do you need a chalk board or Dialogue: Marked=0,0:17:07.88,0:17:12.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a slide projector, or what?" And I said, "No, I'm not doing any of that." I said, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:17:12.51,0:17:18.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Just get me a table. I want a long table Dialogue: Marked=0,0:17:18.36,0:17:22.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so I can lay all the paperwork out, and I want to be like a teacher, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:17:22.62,0:17:28.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just the chair and the table on the stage and I just want to talk to the audience." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:17:29.06,0:17:32.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so Norio said, "Well, I'll tell you what we'll do: we'll put a Dialogue: Marked=0,0:17:33.34,0:17:41.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,video camera behind you, we'll have a guy on a bar stool sit behind you, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:17:41.32,0:17:45.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and right here, so that when you pick up a document, they can zoom in on it Dialogue: Marked=0,0:17:45.53,0:17:51.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and everyone can see it in the ballroom. Because it will be closed-circuit television." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:17:52.09,0:18:00.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it worked out good. I did two hours that morning, had a great time and it worked perfect. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:18:00.33,0:18:03.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so the guy was sitting right behind me with the camera right here. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:18:05.03,0:18:09.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And afterwards, toward the end of the evening when we were getting ready to leave, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:18:09.87,0:18:12.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the guy, the cameraman said, "Jordan, would... Dialogue: Marked=0,0:18:12.62,0:18:15.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My wife and I would like to have you come over and have dinner with us tonight. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:18:15.55,0:18:18.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We live right here in Pasadena." I said, "Sure." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:18:19.77,0:18:25.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so, he and I are sitting in the front room, his wife's in the kitchen fixing dinner, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:18:26.88,0:18:30.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we're just sitting and talking about stuff and, after a little while, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:18:31.26,0:18:34.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,she comes out from the kitchen and says to him, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:18:35.24,0:18:39.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,she said, "Have you told him yet?" And he said, "No, I didn't tell him yet. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:18:39.85,0:18:42.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wasn't going to tell him until after dinner." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:18:42.73,0:18:44.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I said, "Tell me what?" Dialogue: Marked=0,0:18:45.21,0:18:49.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said, "Well, I might as well tell you now." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:18:49.73,0:18:51.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He said, "I've told this story to so many people Dialogue: Marked=0,0:18:51.96,0:18:55.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My wife has heard it so many times, but now I'll tell you." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:18:56.06,0:19:02.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He said, "When I was like 15 years old, I was back East, on the East Coast," Dialogue: Marked=0,0:19:03.25,0:19:08.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he said, "I was thumbing my way north to go stay with my cousin for the summer vacation. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:19:09.40,0:19:12.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I was out on the road, thumbing my way and an old man in a Dialogue: Marked=0,0:19:12.69,0:19:17.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pick-up truck, and he was very old, and", he said, "that pick-up truck was as old as he was, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:19:18.13,0:19:23.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it smelled terrible because he had been smoking cigarettes, cigars, pipes, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:19:23.40,0:19:25.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,anything that would burn, he had been smoking." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:19:25.84,0:19:30.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said, "It was an old man, a dirty pick-up truck and it smelled terrible." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:19:31.32,0:19:36.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said, "But the moment I got in the truck that old man started telling me every Dialogue: Marked=0,0:19:36.37,0:19:38.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,single thing about my life. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:19:38.95,0:19:42.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He knew all about my life, my mother's life, my father. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:19:43.42,0:19:49.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He knew, there was nothing about my life and my family he did not know, and he was right, exactly on. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:19:50.55,0:19:54.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He told me about my girlfriend, about my dad's business, about my mother Dialogue: Marked=0,0:19:55.10,0:19:58.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and who she was before she got married." He said, "There was nothing he didn't know." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:20:02.22,0:20:06.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said, "I was just amazed listening to this old man." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:20:06.93,0:20:13.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said, "Then when he let me out, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:20:14.30,0:20:19.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he said: {\i1}Everything I have been telling you was to get your attention and entertain you.{\i0} Dialogue: Marked=0,0:20:19.51,0:20:21.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}Now I'm going to tell you something important.{\i0} Dialogue: Marked=0,0:20:22.42,0:20:28.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}After you're 50 years old, you're going to be on the West Coast of this country,{\i0} Dialogue: Marked=0,0:20:28.22,0:20:34.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}after 50, and one morning you're going to be on a stage with a man sitting at a table{\i0} Dialogue: Marked=0,0:20:35.02,0:20:39.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}with a bunch of papers, and he's going to be speaking to a very large audience.{\i0} Dialogue: Marked=0,0:20:39.93,0:20:45.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}And you're going to be sitting behind him with a camera, but that camera doesn't exist now,{\i0} Dialogue: Marked=0,0:20:46.05,0:20:49.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}but it will then. And you're going to have a special kind of camera,{\i0} Dialogue: Marked=0,0:20:50.61,0:20:53.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}and that camera will allow him to...{\i0} Dialogue: Marked=0,0:20:53.33,0:20:56.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}you will have the camera right on his shoulder,{\i0} Dialogue: Marked=0,0:20:56.40,0:20:59.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}and when he picks the paper up, that camera will allow people{\i0} Dialogue: Marked=0,0:20:59.28,0:21:01.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}in the audience to see what he's talking about.{\i0} Dialogue: Marked=0,0:21:01.53,0:21:04.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}But that kind of camera doesn't exist now, but it will then.{\i0} Dialogue: Marked=0,0:21:05.84,0:21:10.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}And when you find yourself on the stage with that man sitting at the table talking to the audience,{\i0} Dialogue: Marked=0,0:21:11.32,0:21:13.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}you tell him I put him there.{\i0} Dialogue: Marked=0,0:21:15.49,0:21:18.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}He's not there by chance, {\i0}I{\i1} put him there.{\i0} Dialogue: Marked=0,0:21:20.42,0:21:25.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}So that he doesn't think it was his idea. You tell him that I told you,{\i0} Dialogue: Marked=0,0:21:25.29,0:21:30.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}that you would be behind him with a camera and he's going to be sitting at a table with papers{\i0} Dialogue: Marked=0,0:21:31.40,0:21:33.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}and that {\i0}I{\i1} put him there,{\i0} Dialogue: Marked=0,0:21:34.50,0:21:39.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}so that he will know nothing he does is by chance. {\i0}I{\i1} put him there.{\i0} Dialogue: Marked=0,0:21:40.02,0:21:41.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}He does what {\i0}I{\i1} tell him to do."{\i0} Dialogue: Marked=0,0:21:43.54,0:21:49.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he says, "I've told everybody I've heard this story for years, people I've told, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:21:49.98,0:21:55.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it wasn't until this morning when I'm sitting there on the damned stage with you and the camera," Dialogue: Marked=0,0:21:56.13,0:22:00.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he said, "and I was so busy getting things set up I wasn't thinking about it until Dialogue: Marked=0,0:22:00.64,0:22:02.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you started talking, and it hit me." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:22:03.98,0:22:06.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said, "I looked in the audience at my wife, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:22:07.15,0:22:10.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and she nodded her head, {\i1}Yup, this is him.{\i0}" Dialogue: Marked=0,0:22:10.85,0:22:16.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said, "I was shocked. I've just turned 50 years old. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:22:17.01,0:22:20.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm sitting on the stage with a camera behind you. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:22:20.93,0:22:26.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he {\i1}said{\i0} you would be sitting at a table with the papers on a table, talking to the audience." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:22:26.75,0:22:33.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said, "So I have to tell you, that I was told like 35 years ago or whatever it was, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:22:34.04,0:22:36.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I would be sitting with you this morning and that Dialogue: Marked=0,0:22:36.20,0:22:38.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you would be sitting at that table doing what you're doing. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:22:39.10,0:22:41.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he told me to tell you that that wasn't your idea. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:22:43.93,0:22:47.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, you can think that was your idea but he told me a long Dialogue: Marked=0,0:22:47.25,0:22:49.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,time ago what you were going to be doing this morning." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:22:51.52,0:22:55.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I thought, {\i1}Wow man{\i0}. So I was visibly shaken, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:22:56.59,0:23:01.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,emotionally shaken, and tears came to my eyes. I got up and left. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:23:01.66,0:23:06.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I walked out. He was upstairs. I remember, walking down at night Dialogue: Marked=0,0:23:06.55,0:23:09.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I took a long walk. And he came out to walk with me. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:23:11.04,0:23:14.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there were tears in my eyes because I was scared. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:23:14.40,0:23:16.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That was frightening to me. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:23:17.45,0:23:21.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I said, "I don't understand." And he said, "I don't either. I'm just telling you what the old man said. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:23:22.61,0:23:24.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't know how to explain it either. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:23:26.90,0:23:29.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But he told me that you were going to be doing what you were doing Dialogue: Marked=0,0:23:29.50,0:23:31.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I would be sitting behind you with a camera. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:23:32.29,0:23:37.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And when that happened, he told me to tell you that it wasn't your idea. He put you there this morning." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:23:38.79,0:23:41.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I thought, {\i1}wow, what a trip{\i0}. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:23:42.36,0:23:47.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And clearly, that old man wasn't just an old man. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:23:47.80,0:23:54.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Clearly.\N- And it fits exactly with the story of the girl's father when you were 19. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:23:54.48,0:23:59.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Exactly.\N- He really wasn't just the girl's father. He was something completely different. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:23:59.51,0:24:04.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Totally.\N- And I'm just guessing here but maybe they were just taking that Dialogue: Marked=0,0:24:04.13,0:24:06.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,form for the purposes of leaving a message. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:24:06.76,0:24:10.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And in both cases that message seemed to be something Dialogue: Marked=0,0:24:10.08,0:24:13.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that indicated that they knew exactly what you would be doing Dialogue: Marked=0,0:24:13.86,0:24:17.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at a particular time or phase in your life in years to come, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:24:17.84,0:24:21.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which was all part of some orchestrated plan. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:24:21.50,0:24:24.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it would seem to be a benevolent orchestrated plan... Dialogue: Marked=0,0:24:24.75,0:24:29.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, yes. Yeah, because I don't feel fearful and I don't feel frightened, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:24:30.37,0:24:34.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but my gut feeling is, and I totally feel this for sure, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:24:35.22,0:24:44.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that there is a very powerful unseen force of good, of protection, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:24:45.58,0:24:50.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that has the oversight and the ultimate power, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:24:50.70,0:24:59.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's watching all of this chaos, etcetera, going on on the earth, but it is above it. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:25:00.07,0:25:07.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it can call the shots and at any moment, step in and intervene in mankind's affairs. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:25:08.30,0:25:12.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, it's as if, like a father watching the kids play. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:25:12.33,0:25:16.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, the kids are doing things wrong, and this kid's doing something wrong, too, and they're... Dialogue: Marked=0,0:25:16.29,0:25:20.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they're all doing bad things, but he's watching. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:25:20.89,0:25:24.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And when he decides to step in, he'll step in. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:25:24.95,0:25:26.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And everybody's going to know it. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:25:26.71,0:25:29.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But right now he's letting you go and play your games, do whatever you're doing. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:25:29.98,0:25:31.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}But I'm watching you, I know what you're doing.{\i0} Dialogue: Marked=0,0:25:32.03,0:25:36.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- And so, I get the same...\N- My interpretation would be a little different, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:25:36.88,0:25:41.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I just inject this here, just this, as Dialogue: Marked=0,0:25:41.85,0:25:45.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an interesting suggestion, is that it's more like Dialogue: Marked=0,0:25:47.23,0:25:51.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a referee or an umpire in a ball game who's keeping things {\i1}fair{\i0}, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:25:52.06,0:25:56.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that the key participants have got a good chance in the game Dialogue: Marked=0,0:25:56.78,0:25:59.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,without being overwhelmed in such a way that... Dialogue: Marked=0,0:25:59.59,0:26:05.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I like that, yeah, I like that. I think you're right. That kind of sounds right. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:26:06.34,0:26:09.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Making sure that the thing is balanced. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:26:09.89,0:26:13.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because I don't believe that the outcome is certain, or fixed, at all, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:26:14.00,0:26:16.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I like to think, as you know, we've talked about this privately... Dialogue: Marked=0,0:26:16.82,0:26:18.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yeah.\N- ...that you and I, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:26:18.35,0:26:20.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and tens of thousands of others Dialogue: Marked=0,0:26:21.19,0:26:24.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are here, and we wouldn't have showed up here in this lifetime Dialogue: Marked=0,0:26:24.63,0:26:26.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if this game was fixed and the whole thing was going to be Dialogue: Marked=0,0:26:26.88,0:26:28.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,predetermined to some sorry ending. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:26:29.03,0:26:31.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't believe that at all, I think that we are in with a chance in this game, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:26:31.86,0:26:34.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think that's why we are here, because it is fun. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:26:34.70,0:26:39.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And every now and then what intervention there is is something that keeps that game balanced Dialogue: Marked=0,0:26:39.00,0:26:42.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in such a way that we get a chance to exercise our own responsibility Dialogue: Marked=0,0:26:42.66,0:26:45.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for a good outcome if we're smart enough. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:26:45.26,0:26:48.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that's my personal take on that, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:26:49.03,0:26:51.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- {\i1}what's your responsibility{\i0}?\N- And you and I Dialogue: Marked=0,0:26:51.47,0:26:55.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have discussed this back and forth, but I totally agree with you. Yeah, I think you're right. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:26:56.00,0:27:00.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That there's some higher force... Well, I know there's a higher force, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:27:00.73,0:27:04.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I know that there's a higher matrix of power, that I know. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:27:05.07,0:27:07.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I know it's protecting me and others. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:27:08.46,0:27:12.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I know it has its own agenda. These things I already know for sure. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:27:12.36,0:27:18.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tell the story -- it's a long story but it's an absolutely wonderful, staggering story -- Dialogue: Marked=0,0:27:19.19,0:27:22.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about the experience that you had with... Dialogue: Marked=0,0:27:24.30,0:27:27.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Oh, Paul Tice and...\N- With Paul... Dialogue: Marked=0,0:27:27.07,0:27:29.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yeah, and Ivy.\N- ...and Ivy... Dialogue: Marked=0,0:27:29.26,0:27:31.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yeah.\N- ...out in the Nevada desert... Dialogue: Marked=0,0:27:32.00,0:27:34.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Right.\N- ...near area 51... Dialogue: Marked=0,0:27:34.18,0:27:36.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yeah.\N- ...Rachel, Nevada, the Little A'Le'Inn... Dialogue: Marked=0,0:27:36.38,0:27:38.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Right.\N- ...in the desert. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:27:38.41,0:27:42.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Do tell that story so that we ...\N- I had a friend, a Mexican friend Dialogue: Marked=0,0:27:43.25,0:27:45.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who worked at General Motors. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:27:45.81,0:27:49.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He was upper management at General Motors in Los Angeles, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:27:49.81,0:27:52.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he was getting married and he lived about... Dialogue: Marked=0,0:27:52.27,0:27:56.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He lived in Palmdale which is about 50 miles north of Los Angeles. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:27:57.23,0:28:03.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so he was getting married and so he wanted me to be the best man at his wedding. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:28:04.42,0:28:07.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the idea was that Saturday morning Dialogue: Marked=0,0:28:07.06,0:28:11.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-- he would get married that night -- Saturday morning I was driving up to stay with him Dialogue: Marked=0,0:28:12.00,0:28:15.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,while they were getting ready for the wedding that night. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:28:15.60,0:28:17.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I went out to stay with my friend and Dialogue: Marked=0,0:28:17.76,0:28:22.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,while the girl and her mother and the girlfriends were out shopping and whatever. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:28:22.71,0:28:25.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And... So the girls went out to the market. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:28:26.50,0:28:29.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they came back from the market and there was a... Dialogue: Marked=0,0:28:29.29,0:28:32.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there was an old guy in an old beat-up car following them. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:28:33.53,0:28:37.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And when they got out of the car, he gets out of the car and follows them up to the house. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:28:38.32,0:28:42.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And Carlos and I are sitting now looking out at this old guy coming and he says, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:28:42.13,0:28:44.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Who is this?"\N"I don't know." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:28:44.43,0:28:47.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so when she comes in, she said, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:28:48.35,0:28:54.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"This man met us in the market and he said: Dialogue: Marked=0,0:28:54.33,0:28:59.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}I know that you're getting married tonight and the best man at your wedding{\i0} Dialogue: Marked=0,0:28:59.62,0:29:02.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}is at your home and I need to talk to him.{\i0}" Dialogue: Marked=0,0:29:03.16,0:29:04.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And she said, "How do you know I'm getting married?" Dialogue: Marked=0,0:29:04.74,0:29:09.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said, "I already know who you are. I know you're getting married, but the best Dialogue: Marked=0,0:29:09.26,0:29:12.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,man at your wedding is at your home and I need to talk to him." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:29:13.38,0:29:17.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So she said, you know, she obviously didn't see him as a threat. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:29:18.22,0:29:21.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so I said to him, "Well, that's me. So talk to me." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:29:21.40,0:29:27.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He says, "I've been told to tell you something, that a year-and-a-half from now, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:29:28.61,0:29:35.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a year-and-a-half from now, you're going to have an extraordinary encounter Dialogue: Marked=0,0:29:36.91,0:29:42.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with your friends from out there, and they sent me to tell you that. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:29:42.96,0:29:47.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the event is going to happen way out in the desert." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:29:48.08,0:29:53.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I said, "Well, sometimes I go out in the desert here, in California and look for UFOs." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:29:53.79,0:29:58.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said, "No, no, no. This is not going to be in California, it's going to be east of here. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:29:58.60,0:30:02.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's going to be way out in the desert. You're going to be {\i1}way {\i0}out in the desert. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:30:04.22,0:30:07.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they will pick the time and the place, not you. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:30:08.60,0:30:10.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it's going to be a year-and-a-half from now. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:30:10.99,0:30:15.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they're telling me to tell you that you're going to be driving the car, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:30:15.64,0:30:19.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that you will have a woman in the front seat and a man in the back seat. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:30:20.38,0:30:24.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they will see to it that you have a woman in the front and a man in the back. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:30:24.58,0:30:27.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the reason why is because they want both a woman Dialogue: Marked=0,0:30:27.20,0:30:29.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and a man to be a witness to what's going to happen. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:30:31.69,0:30:36.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the event is for you, not for them, but they want two witnesses, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:30:37.51,0:30:43.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but they want a woman and a man to be a witness. But it's for you. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:30:45.02,0:30:50.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Your friends are going to show themselves to you. Year-and-a-half." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:30:51.63,0:30:53.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that's it. Then he left. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:30:54.73,0:30:59.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, a year-and-a-half later I was speaking in Mesquite, Nevada, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:30:59.82,0:31:02.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at a big UFO conference for Bob Brown. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:31:04.63,0:31:09.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that was in Mesquite which is like 60 miles northeast of Las Vegas. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:31:10.09,0:31:14.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I had brought with me my lady friend from Hawaii Dialogue: Marked=0,0:31:14.14,0:31:17.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who was a talk-show host from Hawaii, Ivy West. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:31:17.98,0:31:22.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And my publisher friend who was living in San Diego, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:31:22.76,0:31:27.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where I was at the time, too, my publisher friend Paul Tice... Dialogue: Marked=0,0:31:27.66,0:31:31.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so Paul was in the back seat and Ivy was in the front seat. And I'm driving. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:31:32.03,0:31:36.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we're coming back from Mesquite, Sunday morning, early, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:31:36.75,0:31:39.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and just as we're getting into Las Vegas I said, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:31:40.54,0:31:44.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,out of nowhere I said, "Have either one of you ever been to Area 51?" And they said, "No." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:31:44.71,0:31:46.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"You wanna go?" "Yeah, let's do." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:31:47.44,0:31:52.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, I had been given an invitation to go to the Little A'Le'Inn, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:31:53.38,0:31:57.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by Joe and Pat Travis who own the Little A'Le'Inn Dialogue: Marked=0,0:31:57.39,0:32:01.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they used to hear me on my show. I used to do a radio show at night, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:32:01.32,0:32:03.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a late night talk-show in Las Vegas, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:32:04.11,0:32:06.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so they would hear me. So they used to call me and say, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:32:06.60,0:32:08.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Come up as our guest, come up and visit." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:32:09.29,0:32:12.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so I never did. But so we decided, okay, we'll go. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:32:13.07,0:32:16.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I called them and they said, "Yeah, come on up." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:32:16.43,0:32:25.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So on the way up, it's 135 miles north of Las Vegas in the high desert of Nevada. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:32:25.75,0:32:29.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a little Mickey Mouse, and I do mean small, little Dialogue: Marked=0,0:32:29.44,0:32:32.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,establishment out there in the middle of nowhere, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:32:32.78,0:32:39.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's actually just a big bar, restaurant bar, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:32:39.51,0:32:42.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then there's about six or eight mobile homes which are Dialogue: Marked=0,0:32:43.10,0:32:45.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rented out the rooms, like a motel, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:32:45.04,0:32:48.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but they're little mobile homes, they rent them out like a motel. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:32:48.96,0:32:50.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then there's a Mom-and-Pop grocery store Dialogue: Marked=0,0:32:50.91,0:32:53.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and a little service station and that's it. You know. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:32:55.45,0:32:57.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's called Rachel, Nevada. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:32:58.04,0:33:04.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And of course, about a mile or so to the mountain, on the other side of the mountain, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:33:04.44,0:33:08.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's the military base, Nellis Air Force test range. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:33:08.65,0:33:13.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And very highly secret stuff going on out there. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:33:14.84,0:33:19.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, anyway, we're driving up, and so I told Ivy and Paul about the prophecy. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:33:19.68,0:33:22.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I said, "Here it is, at exactly a year-and-a-half later, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:33:23.18,0:33:26.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he said I'd be driving, a woman in the front seat and a man in the back." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:33:26.85,0:33:30.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I said, "Don't be surprised if, you know, something happens to us. I don't know." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:33:31.21,0:33:34.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I'm glad I told them before it happened. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:33:36.39,0:33:41.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we get up there and that night we were sitting around at the bar talking Dialogue: Marked=0,0:33:41.60,0:33:47.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so, when they were getting ready to close, I asked Joe and Pat, the owners, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:33:47.66,0:33:49.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I said, "Where do we go to see UFOs?" Dialogue: Marked=0,0:33:49.60,0:33:53.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because it's a very famous place there, Area 51, for UFOs. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:33:54.41,0:33:59.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So Joe said, Joe with his cold humor, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:33:59.93,0:34:02.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he said, "You don't have to go anywhere. They saw you. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:34:02.14,0:34:05.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He said, Just sit down here in the car. They'll find you if they want you." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:34:06.10,0:34:09.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so Pat said, "Well, if you want to go where all the tourists go, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:34:09.48,0:34:12.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,go back out on the highway." And this is Dialogue: Marked=0,0:34:12.39,0:34:17.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a highway out in the middle of nowhere, this little Mickey Mouse place out there. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:34:18.20,0:34:25.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so she said, "Go back out on the highway and go back toward Vegas exactly 19 miles. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:34:25.86,0:34:28.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Put it on your speedometer, exactly 19 miles. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:34:29.07,0:34:34.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because at the 19-mile marker, you will see a big mailbox Dialogue: Marked=0,0:34:34.46,0:34:38.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and a big parking area and a road. Park at the mailbox. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:34:39.73,0:34:45.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And one of the flight paths is over the mountain right there Dialogue: Marked=0,0:34:45.81,0:34:49.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so anything coming in or going out is going to go over your head. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:34:49.77,0:34:52.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, if you're gonna see something, most likely that's where it will be. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:34:52.84,0:34:54.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, go back to the mailbox." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:34:55.00,0:35:00.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, we get in the car. I'm driving, a woman in the front seat and a man in the back. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:35:00.76,0:35:05.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I get out on the highway and instead of turning right, which she just said, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:35:05.22,0:35:09.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to go south, I turn north, turn left and go north. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:35:10.02,0:35:12.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ivy didn't catch it, and Paul didn't catch it. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:35:12.89,0:35:16.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We're just talking, talking, and we didn't realize we're going the wrong way. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:35:17.34,0:35:22.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we slowed down... now it's about, it was like 11:30, 12 o'clock when we left. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:35:25.16,0:35:29.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When we got out to the 19-mile, we're slowing down Dialogue: Marked=0,0:35:29.99,0:35:34.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then Ivy says, "Wait a minute, we're going north. She said, go south." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:35:35.45,0:35:38.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I said, "Alright well, why don't we just turn around and go back. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:35:38.73,0:35:40.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We got the room for the night. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:35:40.71,0:35:43.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, we'll go back out tomorrow night and do it right. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:35:43.51,0:35:45.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So she said, "Okay, so we'll stop." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:35:45.68,0:35:50.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, now it's like midnight, and it was totally overcast. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:35:50.06,0:35:52.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There was... you couldn't see nothing. Totally overcast. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:35:53.70,0:36:00.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it was like midnight, and it's 20 miles north of Little A'Le'Inn, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:36:00.11,0:36:02.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is 135 miles to start with. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:36:03.28,0:36:07.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now it's 155 miles out in the middle of nowhere. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:36:08.21,0:36:10.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I pulled the car to a stop, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:36:12.04,0:36:15.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and where I stopped there was a wide dirt road Dialogue: Marked=0,0:36:15.56,0:36:18.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,going off into the desert. And it was a well kept dirt road. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:36:20.50,0:36:23.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And Ivy said, "Let's go out in the desert, let's drive out there." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:36:23.85,0:36:25.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I said, "Ivy, you're in the desert. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:36:27.65,0:36:30.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're not going to see anything out there that you wouldn't see here. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:36:30.66,0:36:32.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And tonight you're not going to see nothing anyway Dialogue: Marked=0,0:36:32.78,0:36:35.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it's totally overcast. I don't want to go out in the desert." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:36:36.60,0:36:41.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And Ivy insisted, and Paul, you know, jumped in and said, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:36:41.99,0:36:43.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Let's go out in the desert a little bit." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:36:44.27,0:36:45.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I said, "Why?" Dialogue: Marked=0,0:36:45.62,0:36:47.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Go out in the desert." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:36:48.06,0:36:51.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, I drive out in the desert, I'm driving out, I go out two or three blocks, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:36:52.06,0:36:57.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and all of sudden I got this overwhelming feeling that we had done something wrong and I was Dialogue: Marked=0,0:36:57.75,0:37:01.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,legitimately scared that we had done something wrong. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:37:02.01,0:37:04.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I said, "Ivy, I'm getting out of here. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:37:04.51,0:37:08.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't know what it is." We didn't see any sign that said {\i1}Stay Out{\i0}, no, nothing like that. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:37:09.62,0:37:14.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I just felt something was wrong. I stopped the car. I backed it up, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:37:15.49,0:37:20.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and just before I took off, Ivy and Paul jumped on me and said, "Just stop the car. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:37:21.06,0:37:24.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are no signs, there are no bases or anything. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:37:25.02,0:37:27.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just stop the car and we'll get out for a minute." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:37:27.11,0:37:32.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I said, "Ivy, something is wrong and I'm feeling it. I want to get out of here. I'm serious." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:37:32.37,0:37:36.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She said, "Stop the car. We'll get out for a minute." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:37:37.37,0:37:44.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, I turned the key off. We get out, and when you shut the door and the lights are off, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:37:45.00,0:37:50.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's no stars, no moon, it's totally overcast, it's pitch black. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:37:51.18,0:37:53.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No light. Period. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:37:54.83,0:37:59.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you had to hold onto the car. I can hear voices but you can't {\i1}see{\i0} anything. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:38:00.47,0:38:05.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that's a spooky feeling. I've never had that experience before. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:38:06.37,0:38:10.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And in the total darkness, any light you see immediately. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:38:11.83,0:38:16.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We couldn't have been out of the car 30 seconds, not even 30 seconds, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:38:19.13,0:38:25.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and all of a sudden the cloud opened up, like, a little bit of an oval opened up. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:38:26.54,0:38:27.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you could see stars. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:38:28.01,0:38:31.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, the moment it opened up, we all three saw it because there's no light. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:38:32.04,0:38:33.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Any light you see immediately. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:38:34.09,0:38:36.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And Ivy said, "Look, the clouds are opening." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:38:36.73,0:38:44.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And when she said that, two bluish white discs, disc-shaped things, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:38:45.18,0:38:51.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,glowing bluish white, were absolutely gorgeous, beautiful. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:38:52.27,0:38:54.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They came in when the clouds opened up, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:38:55.21,0:38:59.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but when they came in they didn't fly in, they kind of floated. They just floated in, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:39:00.12,0:39:03.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they floated close to the cloud above them so that the light Dialogue: Marked=0,0:39:03.65,0:39:05.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was reflecting on the cloud above them, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:39:06.18,0:39:09.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bluish white. And they were glowing bluish white. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:39:09.49,0:39:13.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And as they came in, two of them, beautiful saucer-shaped things, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:39:13.74,0:39:18.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very slow, and while we're watching, five more came in behind them. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:39:19.02,0:39:22.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now there's seven bluish white discs Dialogue: Marked=0,0:39:22.44,0:39:25.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they come over us. All of a sudden it stopped. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:39:27.19,0:39:30.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I was absolutely frightened. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:39:31.60,0:39:35.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'd never seen anything as beautiful and awesome Dialogue: Marked=0,0:39:36.15,0:39:45.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and other-worldly than five glowing bluish white disc-shaped things stop over you. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:39:45.80,0:39:52.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And instantly they change, "flicht", in a quarter-of-a-second, boom, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:39:53.33,0:39:55.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they all changed positions, "flicht". Dialogue: Marked=0,0:39:56.28,0:39:58.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I thought, {\i1}God, how'd they do that?{\i0} Dialogue: Marked=0,0:39:59.53,0:40:03.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then all of a sudden: boom, boom, boom, they changed again, and locked. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:40:04.11,0:40:10.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I was shook. I know what the G-force Dialogue: Marked=0,0:40:10.09,0:40:12.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for moving something that quickly... Dialogue: Marked=0,0:40:14.14,0:40:18.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, like "that" and it was locked and stayed in place. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:40:19.32,0:40:23.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I said to Ivy, "Ivy, I'm getting out of here. I don't know what this is. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:40:23.46,0:40:26.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't want to know. I'm scared and I want to get out of here." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:40:26.75,0:40:30.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I got in the car, I cranked it up. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:40:30.45,0:40:32.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And Ivy and Paul loved it. They said, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:40:32.52,0:40:36.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"God, look what they're doing, how beautiful they are. Seven of them." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:40:36.96,0:40:40.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I said, "Get in the car. You're going to walk home. I'm leaving." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:40:40.83,0:40:44.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they got in the car because they knew I was serious. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:40:44.43,0:40:46.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They rolled the window down, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:40:46.61,0:40:49.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and looked out as I flipped on the lights and took off. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:40:51.39,0:40:53.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And when I flipped on the lights and took off, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:40:54.37,0:40:57.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ivy and Paul went totally berserk. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:40:57.28,0:41:02.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now they're both frightened, and Ivy and Paul are screaming and crying and yelling. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:41:02.83,0:41:05.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now she's really frightened. Now, she's scared. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:41:06.10,0:41:07.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Me? I was already scared. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:41:07.95,0:41:12.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But now I've got a woman in the front seat who is going ballistic on me and I'm already frightened. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:41:12.75,0:41:15.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I'm screaming at her to shut up, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:41:15.38,0:41:19.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I'm driving fast, I'm speeding toward the highway. And all I could think of Dialogue: Marked=0,0:41:19.61,0:41:22.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was, {\i1}I don't want to overshoot the highway{\i0}, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:41:22.42,0:41:25.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, and out on the other side and crash the car. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:41:25.62,0:41:28.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But she's yelling and screaming and so were Paul. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:41:28.87,0:41:32.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I stopped the car quickly, and it was very quick. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:41:33.20,0:41:35.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Maybe two seconds. I just stopped the car Dialogue: Marked=0,0:41:35.54,0:41:37.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and opened up to see what they were screaming about, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:41:37.48,0:41:39.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and those things were right down on us, big. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:41:40.01,0:41:43.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Still bluish white, but very big. Moving all around. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:41:45.01,0:41:48.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was frightened to death and I shot Dialogue: Marked=0,0:41:48.51,0:41:52.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the highway, and as soon as I could see the highway coming up, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:41:52.48,0:41:54.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I knew I was going too fast so I hit the brake Dialogue: Marked=0,0:41:55.00,0:41:57.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and skidded all the way up to the highway. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:41:57.51,0:42:01.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And as I came out on the highway, the car skidded sideways. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:42:03.15,0:42:07.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the moment we hit the highway, all three of us Dialogue: Marked=0,0:42:08.94,0:42:12.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,felt totally safe again. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:42:12.54,0:42:16.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All three of us felt it, we're all right now, you know, on the highway. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:42:17.37,0:42:22.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, the saucers, all seven of them, had gone back out into the desert. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:42:24.48,0:42:28.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, I can't remember exactly how they disappeared Dialogue: Marked=0,0:42:29.45,0:42:32.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but something to... I'm trying to remember... Dialogue: Marked=0,0:42:32.38,0:42:35.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It went back out in the desert... Because I was so frightened, and I was Dialogue: Marked=0,0:42:36.67,0:42:39.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, with them, and the car lights were on and we got out of the car, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:42:39.83,0:42:42.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we stood there talking to each other, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:42:42.32,0:42:46.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they had gone back out into the desert and gone "flicht". They're gone. That's it. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:42:48.31,0:42:53.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And my heart was pounding, and I was absolutely frightened. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:42:53.94,0:42:57.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there was tears in my eyes, and I was legitimately frightened. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:42:58.29,0:43:03.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've never seen... They not only Dialogue: Marked=0,0:43:03.48,0:43:09.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were able to do things which I would say is unworldly, is not possible to be done... Dialogue: Marked=0,0:43:10.69,0:43:16.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Humans don't have that kind of technology that I saw, that we saw. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:43:17.67,0:43:22.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that scared me, because, first of all, if it is human technology then we're about Dialogue: Marked=0,0:43:23.20,0:43:27.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a thousand years ahead more than you think we are, if we could do this. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:43:28.28,0:43:31.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if it isn't us, then that means it's somebody else and that's even scarier. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:43:32.46,0:43:34.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Either way, we're in trouble. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:43:34.89,0:43:39.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so, we stood out on the highway that night, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:43:39.44,0:43:42.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the emotions were absolutely incredible. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:43:42.83,0:43:45.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She was crying, she was laughing. Paul... Dialogue: Marked=0,0:43:45.86,0:43:50.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We were frightened. It was beautiful, it was awesome, it was scary, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:43:51.02,0:43:54.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was horrible, it was wonderful. It was just everything. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:43:54.60,0:43:56.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just all... just boiling emotions. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:43:57.62,0:44:00.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we were like children who had been frightened. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:44:01.24,0:44:06.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And when we finally decided to go back, I'm driving back slow, I was shaking. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:44:06.82,0:44:13.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we go back, we had already got a motel, we were staying in one of the mobile homes. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:44:14.12,0:44:18.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And when you go into the mobile home, you go in from the middle of the thing, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:44:19.02,0:44:23.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so you walk directly into the mobile home that we were staying in, into the bathroom. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:44:23.43,0:44:25.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And on both sides of the bathroom are bedrooms. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:44:26.01,0:44:28.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And one bedroom had two beds and the other had one. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:44:29.02,0:44:31.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, I'm not about to sleep by myself after this. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:44:31.77,0:44:36.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And Ivy is a woman who can take care of herself. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:44:36.58,0:44:40.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If ever there was going to be a street fight, I'd like Ivy to be with me. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:44:40.78,0:44:45.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so I said, "Ivy, why don't you and I take this room and Paul can have the other room." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:44:45.81,0:44:50.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Paul said, "Okay." So Paul's by himself and I've got Ivy in my room. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:44:51.22,0:44:55.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so that night, for about a half-hour or 40 minutes, we lay in bed talking. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:44:55.50,0:44:57.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I could hear him in the next room. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:44:57.28,0:45:02.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we're talking about what did we see tonight? What the hell was that all about? Dialogue: Marked=0,0:45:03.44,0:45:08.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Was that our technology or somebody else's? Well, all three of us Dialogue: Marked=0,0:45:08.80,0:45:12.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,knew that that was not human. What we saw tonight was not human. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:45:14.37,0:45:16.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the next morning when I got up, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:45:16.79,0:45:20.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ivy and Paul had already gotten up and gone to the restaurant to have breakfast. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:45:21.91,0:45:24.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And when I went over there, they're sitting at the table Dialogue: Marked=0,0:45:24.87,0:45:27.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with a bunch of people around talking to them, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:45:27.52,0:45:30.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so I'm figuring they're telling them what happened to us last night. No. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:45:31.51,0:45:36.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ivy and Paul were talking about the alien that came in the motel last night. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:45:37.92,0:45:42.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,An alien came in the motel. I was sleeping. I slept through it. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:45:43.41,0:45:48.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it happened to Paul, it was in his room. It came to him, not me. Not to Ivy and me. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:45:49.04,0:45:50.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It came in Paul's room. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:45:51.16,0:45:56.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there's a video out there, that Anthony Hilder video. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:45:56.67,0:46:01.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Anthony was up at Area 51 one time later on, a few years later, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:46:01.65,0:46:04.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Paul and I happened to be up there also, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:46:04.86,0:46:08.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we were telling Anthony about it, so he wanted to videotape the interview. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:46:09.16,0:46:13.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's called {\i1}Alien 51{\i0}. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:46:14.46,0:46:18.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a video put out by Anthony Hilder, called {\i1}Alien 51{\i0}. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:46:18.95,0:46:24.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And in there is Paul Tice and myself at Area 51 Dialogue: Marked=0,0:46:25.11,0:46:29.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,telling the same experience. So you'll hear Paul tell it himself, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:46:30.17,0:46:34.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what happened to him. And Paul did not want to talk about it because it scared him. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:46:35.11,0:46:37.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He was legitimately frightened. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:46:37.19,0:46:40.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This alien came into Paul's bedroom. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:46:40.49,0:46:43.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Paul said he fell asleep, he was sound asleep, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:46:44.70,0:46:48.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and all of a sudden a light came on over his head and woke him up. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:46:49.19,0:46:51.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was a light green light. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:46:53.27,0:46:58.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said very light, it wasn't very bright at all, but just enough to wake him up. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:46:58.59,0:47:00.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was a light green light, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:47:00.92,0:47:04.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he said he looked up and it was an alien's face with the big eyes, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:47:04.56,0:47:07.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, the normal alien-looking face, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:47:08.07,0:47:12.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but you could see through it. It was a hologram. You could see through the face Dialogue: Marked=0,0:47:12.80,0:47:16.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the ceiling. And he said then the hologram went down the ceiling, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:47:16.61,0:47:20.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and hit the wall and came down until it was even with him sitting in bed. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:47:22.02,0:47:25.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the alien was now even with him, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:47:27.11,0:47:32.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,telepathically asked Paul, "What are you doing here? Who are you and what are you doing here?" Dialogue: Marked=0,0:47:33.40,0:47:37.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And Paul says, "I could understand him well. I knew exactly what he had asked. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:47:37.98,0:47:42.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I'm trying to {\i1}think {\i0}the answer rather than speak the answer. I'm thinking the answer." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:47:42.80,0:47:45.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said, "When I started to answer him," Dialogue: Marked=0,0:47:46.50,0:47:50.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he said all of a sudden that thing went through his memory track, it went... Dialogue: Marked=0,0:47:50.99,0:47:55.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he said, "Everything that ever happened to me in my life, I saw in an instant. Everything." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:47:56.28,0:48:01.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He said, "It was able to download my psyche and my brain Dialogue: Marked=0,0:48:01.89,0:48:03.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to see everything I'd ever done." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:48:04.36,0:48:08.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said, "I knew I had no control over it, I was just seeing everything in my life going by." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:48:09.32,0:48:15.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said, "Then this alien told me, telepathically said, "{\i1}You're okay, you're alright.{\i0}" Dialogue: Marked=0,0:48:16.42,0:48:20.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said, "And then it went through the wall." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:48:20.46,0:48:25.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the other thing, he said, while it was talking to him, the room was moving. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:48:25.92,0:48:29.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He said, "I could see the door going past the alien, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:48:29.34,0:48:33.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I could see the window going past the alien, then the door coming back around. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:48:33.47,0:48:37.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said, "But in my mind I was seeing Dialogue: Marked=0,0:48:37.74,0:48:45.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the wall circulating but it was staying where it was and not moving." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:48:46.53,0:48:49.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said, "When the alien told me, {\i1}You're alright, you're okay,{\i0} Dialogue: Marked=0,0:48:49.92,0:48:53.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it backed out. It went backwards and went through the wall." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:48:53.25,0:48:58.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, Ivy said that she was laying on her left side, looking into his room, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:48:59.22,0:49:01.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and she said when she woke up, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:49:02.39,0:49:08.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something woke her up and she saw this glowing green color on his wall. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:49:08.74,0:49:13.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the moment she woke up and saw that, she said a small, tiny pen light, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:49:13.94,0:49:20.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,red little light, came through Paul's room, and zipped in and came right over the top of her. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:49:21.44,0:49:23.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And she was paralyzed. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:49:23.10,0:49:26.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She said, "I couldn't move, I couldn't scream, I couldn't do anything. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:49:27.01,0:49:32.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I couldn't move. This little red thing was sitting over the top of me." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:49:32.64,0:49:36.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And she said, "Then I saw the light go, it went, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:49:37.10,0:49:40.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that little red light shot back out and followed, it was gone. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:49:41.35,0:49:45.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And she said, "So I got up and went in there and sat with Paul." She said, "You were sound asleep." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:49:47.61,0:49:54.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And she said, "And so Paul said that this thing had told him: {\i1}You're okay, you're alright{\i0}, and it left." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:49:54.87,0:49:58.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so I'm listening to this and I said, "I didn't see anything," and Dialogue: Marked=0,0:49:59.26,0:50:06.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when I said that, Pat Travis, the owner of the restaurant -- she's very knowledgeable about UFO stuff -- Dialogue: Marked=0,0:50:06.87,0:50:10.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Pat said to me, she said, "No, no. They know who you are. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:50:10.15,0:50:12.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They were just playing with your friends. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:50:12.67,0:50:15.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're just playing this way. Sometimes they'll do this with people Dialogue: Marked=0,0:50:16.49,0:50:19.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just to scare them. They were playing with your friends. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:50:20.42,0:50:22.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But they know who you are and they're not playing with you." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:50:24.02,0:50:29.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so I thought, {\i1}wow{\i0}, that means... you know, to have her say something like that. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:50:30.06,0:50:35.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so... But that's exactly what, you know, the old man had said. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:50:36.26,0:50:40.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, a couple days later we left Dialogue: Marked=0,0:50:40.48,0:50:45.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I drove Ivy back to the airport in LA, she went back to Hawaii, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:50:45.35,0:50:48.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Paul and I were living in San Diego so we drove back. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:50:49.15,0:50:53.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I was working for a company Dialogue: Marked=0,0:50:53.66,0:50:57.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,called Truth Seeker company in San Diego and Paul was my publisher. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:50:58.27,0:51:09.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This all happened in the first week of December of '94. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:51:09.85,0:51:15.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,December of '94 is when I had this whole experience out there in the desert, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:51:15.75,0:51:21.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with these seven UFOs and the alien coming into Paul's room. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:51:22.34,0:51:26.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so the late spring of '95 Dialogue: Marked=0,0:51:26.37,0:51:28.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was working in San Diego, as I said, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:51:29.23,0:51:31.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rented a Chrysler convertible Dialogue: Marked=0,0:51:32.32,0:51:34.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I told no one where I was going Dialogue: Marked=0,0:51:35.19,0:51:38.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I drove back up to Area 51 by myself. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:51:38.46,0:51:41.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I didn't tell Paul, told nobody, even the people I'm working with. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:51:41.96,0:51:43.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I just took off and went. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:51:43.83,0:51:46.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I rented a Chrysler convertible and I drove up there. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:51:46.54,0:51:49.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I wanted to go back to where I'd had the experience, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:51:50.68,0:51:52.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for some reason, I just wanted to go back. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:51:53.12,0:51:56.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so I got there and that afternoon Dialogue: Marked=0,0:51:56.47,0:52:00.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about four o'clock I drove out, north, 19 miles Dialogue: Marked=0,0:52:00.72,0:52:03.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,down the road, and drove back out on the same road. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:52:03.48,0:52:06.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wasn't going to stay out there when the sun goes down, when it gets dark. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:52:07.59,0:52:12.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I did want to go out there after the sun goes down, but when it gets dark I'm not staying out there. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:52:15.41,0:52:22.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I sat on the back of my car with my feet in the back seat, and I talked with... with them. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:52:22.48,0:52:25.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I said, "Look, I know you're here and I know you can hear me. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:52:26.39,0:52:32.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I also know that you don't wish to harm me. And I know that. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:52:33.05,0:52:37.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you did, I wouldn't be here. So, I know that you don't want to harm me. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:52:38.91,0:52:45.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want you to understand that I'm willing to do whatever it is I'm supposed to do with my life. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:52:45.23,0:52:48.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If this is some kind of a spiritual experience I'm having, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:52:49.06,0:52:52.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want you to know that I'm willing to do whatever I'm supposed to do. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:52:53.04,0:52:55.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I have two favors I wish to ask of you, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:52:56.36,0:52:58.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,two things I would ask you. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:52:58.38,0:53:03.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One, don't take me anywhere. I don't want to be abducted, I don't want to go anywhere. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:53:04.56,0:53:10.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just leave me alone. And two, don't frighten me in my bedroom. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:53:10.74,0:53:14.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't want to wake up and be frightened in my bedroom. I've got a bad heart, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:53:14.25,0:53:17.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,been through too much, just leave me alone and don't take me anywhere. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:53:18.59,0:53:23.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Show me what I'm supposed to do, tell me what I've got to do and I'm happy to do... Dialogue: Marked=0,0:53:24.36,0:53:27.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Don't take me anywhere or frighten me in my bedroom." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:53:28.93,0:53:32.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I said, "Thank you, goodbye and good luck." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:53:32.38,0:53:36.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I got in my car, turned around and went back and spent a couple of nights with Joe and Pat. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:53:36.56,0:53:39.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then I drove back to San Diego, never told anyone. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:53:40.70,0:53:45.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,About three or four weeks later, Paul Tice calls me Dialogue: Marked=0,0:53:45.65,0:53:52.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and says there's a young lady he heard about down on Coronado Island in San Diego Dialogue: Marked=0,0:53:52.49,0:53:57.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-- Coronado, a little island off the coast, take a big bridge going over to it -- Dialogue: Marked=0,0:53:57.96,0:54:02.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he said that she's a past life regressionist and he said, "I heard she's really great. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:54:03.57,0:54:06.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why don't you make an appointment with her and go see if she's that good. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:54:06.57,0:54:07.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if she is, then I'll go." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:54:07.55,0:54:10.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I said, "No. If you want to see her, why don't you make the appointment?" Dialogue: Marked=0,0:54:10.56,0:54:15.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"No, no," he said, "you're much closer to her, you're very close. So you go see her." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:54:16.57,0:54:21.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I said, "Okay." So I made an appointment. Her name was Kirin, K-I-R-I-N. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:54:22.07,0:54:29.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Kirin was a beautiful, young girl, but mystical, about her. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:54:30.19,0:54:33.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so I drove over, I made the appointment, I go in. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:54:33.97,0:54:37.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so she has you take the watch off and your ring off and any metal. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:54:38.36,0:54:41.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I'm laying on a table, like a massage table, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:54:41.91,0:54:46.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and she's lighting candles around me and talking to someone. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:54:47.15,0:54:49.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I thought maybe she was talking to somebody in the kitchen or something. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:54:49.40,0:54:54.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She's talking and lighting candles and I'm just laying there. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:54:54.38,0:54:58.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And after a few minutes of her talking it finally occurred to me Dialogue: Marked=0,0:54:58.90,0:55:00.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's nobody in the house but her and I. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:55:01.99,0:55:04.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so I asked her, I said, "Kirin, who are you talking to?" Dialogue: Marked=0,0:55:04.70,0:55:08.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And she said, "Oh, I'm sorry. I'm talking to your friends who brought you here." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:55:09.89,0:55:12.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I said, "What do you mean, brought me here, brought me to your house?" Dialogue: Marked=0,0:55:12.96,0:55:16.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She said, "No, no, no, no. Who brought you to the Earth. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:55:16.48,0:55:18.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You've been brought here to do something. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:55:18.38,0:55:21.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They brought you, and I'm talking to your friends who brought you here." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:55:22.09,0:55:24.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I said, "Well, since you seem to be on good terms with my friends, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:55:24.93,0:55:28.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,why don't you ask them, what the hell am I doing here? Who are my friends?" Dialogue: Marked=0,0:55:29.09,0:55:33.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And she said, "You don't know who brought you here?" Dialogue: Marked=0,0:55:33.21,0:55:36.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I said, "No. Why would I be asking you? I don't even know what you're talking about." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:55:37.28,0:55:40.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She said, "Well they're saying they're Pleiadians. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:55:40.23,0:55:41.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't know, but that's what they're telling me. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:55:42.46,0:55:46.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they're saying that you're from the Pleiades and they have brought you here to do something, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:55:46.55,0:55:51.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they have something for you to do." And I said, "Wow." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:55:52.70,0:55:54.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I said, "Well, while you're talking to them, ask them, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:55:54.89,0:55:56.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what is it I'm supposed to be doing here." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:55:57.25,0:56:00.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And she said, "They're telling me to tell you first of all, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:56:00.86,0:56:03.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you don't..." -- because she's a past life regressionist -- Dialogue: Marked=0,0:56:04.29,0:56:07.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,she said, "They're telling me to tell you, you don't need a past life regression. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:56:08.26,0:56:11.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You need to get this life straight, don't worry about your past ones. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:56:11.52,0:56:12.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Get this one right." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:56:13.49,0:56:18.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then she said, "And they're telling me that you are brought here Dialogue: Marked=0,0:56:18.90,0:56:24.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be a channel. They're going to channel messages through you, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:56:24.94,0:56:27.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but not for a long time yet. Not now. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:56:27.78,0:56:31.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But ultimately that's what they're going to do, is they're going to use you as a channel. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:56:32.13,0:56:37.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they're going to put you into a position where you will be heard by important people. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:56:38.04,0:56:41.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And when that time comes, they will speak through you. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:56:41.85,0:56:45.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But they're telling me to remind you: Dialogue: Marked=0,0:56:45.74,0:56:49.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you are not an ambassador, you are an emissary. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:56:51.56,0:56:56.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,An ambassador speaks {\i1}for {\i0}the government he represents. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:56:56.97,0:56:59.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You do not speak {\i1}for {\i0}anyone. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:57:00.20,0:57:05.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,An emissary merely delivers a message. You're not speaking {\i1}for {\i0}anyone. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:57:06.42,0:57:09.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they're telling me to tell you to make sure you understand that. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:57:10.73,0:57:13.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So that you're an emissary, not an ambassador. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:57:14.12,0:57:17.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you will be able to just deliver the message, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:57:17.38,0:57:22.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the message will come from them through you. But not now. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:57:22.31,0:57:25.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There will come a time when you will be speaking before important people, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:57:26.22,0:57:30.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the people who are supposed to know, will know who you are. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:57:30.87,0:57:32.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You don't know, but they will know. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:57:33.53,0:57:37.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And when they're listening to you, they will know who you really are. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:57:38.45,0:57:42.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, they're telling me to tell you: just get this one right." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:57:43.57,0:57:46.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then she starts laughing and I said, "What are you laughing about?" Dialogue: Marked=0,0:57:46.68,0:57:48.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And she said, "They just told me something funny about you." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:57:50.28,0:57:51.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She said, "They told me about Dialogue: Marked=0,0:57:52.70,0:57:57.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,four or five weeks ago you rented a Chrysler convertible and you drove up there, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:57:57.27,0:58:00.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and went out on the same road that they saw you on the last time, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:58:00.19,0:58:01.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you didn't want to go out that night Dialogue: Marked=0,0:58:01.66,0:58:05.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because you were scared, but you went out in the afternoon. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:58:05.49,0:58:08.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you sat with your feet in the back seat." And I was thinking, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:58:08.28,0:58:12.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}I never told anyone this{\i0}. She was exactly right. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:58:12.07,0:58:14.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And she said, "And you sat with your feet in the back seat, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:58:14.82,0:58:18.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you said to them that you didn't mind doing what you're supposed to do Dialogue: Marked=0,0:58:18.18,0:58:21.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but you didn't want to be frightened in your bedroom or abducted. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:58:21.50,0:58:25.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they thought that was funny. They got a laugh out of that one." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:58:25.55,0:58:27.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I said, "Why would they think that's funny?" Dialogue: Marked=0,0:58:27.91,0:58:32.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And she said, "Because if you knew where you have come from, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:58:32.79,0:58:35.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and what you look like where you came from Dialogue: Marked=0,0:58:35.56,0:58:38.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as opposed to what you look like now as a human, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:58:38.81,0:58:40.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,do you think you would be scared? Dialogue: Marked=0,0:58:40.78,0:58:44.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Wait until you die and go back to where you come from. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:58:45.07,0:58:47.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's really going to be a shock to you. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:58:47.83,0:58:50.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, they just thought that was humorous. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:58:51.01,0:58:55.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You don't want to be frightened? Wait until you die. You've got a real trip coming Dialogue: Marked=0,0:58:55.56,0:58:59.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when you go back to who you really were and where you've come from." Dialogue: Marked=0,0:58:59.77,0:59:02.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And she said, "But they're telling me to tell you: Dialogue: Marked=0,0:59:02.30,0:59:07.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}No one's gonna harm you. We've given you something to do and we have been watching you from Day 1.{\i0} Dialogue: Marked=0,0:59:08.68,0:59:14.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}And so, just remember we're watching you, and you will do whatever it is we have in mind for you to do.{\i0}" Dialogue: Marked=0,0:59:14.57,0:59:19.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I thought, {\i1}Wow, man, I've never heard such stuff in my life.{\i0} Incredible story. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:59:21.93,0:59:23.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't know. I'm just telling you what happened. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:59:24.41,0:59:26.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it all fits together, right? Dialogue: Marked=0,0:59:26.25,0:59:28.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, it all kind of... Dialogue: Marked=0,0:59:28.40,0:59:30.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These accounts all fit together, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:59:30.52,0:59:35.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a way that suggests... I mean, you've got a number of data points here, and Dialogue: Marked=0,0:59:35.32,0:59:38.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you put it all together, and it says that you're sent here, Dialogue: Marked=0,0:59:38.45,0:59:42.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you're widely respected by everyone up there and down here. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:59:42.60,0:59:46.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That you've got a job to do, that you're being watched, that you're being protected. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:59:46.08,0:59:48.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You don't know what the heck's going on all this time... Dialogue: Marked=0,0:59:48.27,0:59:50.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I have no idea.\N- ...which actually I think is really funny myself. Dialogue: Marked=0,0:59:51.98,0:59:55.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And here you are at the ripe old age of nearly 70 Dialogue: Marked=0,0:59:55.43,0:59:58.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you're still trying to figure it out, and you don't even know whether you've done yet Dialogue: Marked=0,0:59:58.15,1:00:00.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- what you've come here to do!\N- That's exactly right. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:00:01.32,1:00:04.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the reason why is because I'm not even sure what it is I'm supposed to do Dialogue: Marked=0,1:00:04.27,1:00:06.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to start with, so how would I know if I've done it. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:00:07.99,1:00:16.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've always known that I have always had this other-world connection. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:00:16.55,1:00:18.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Even as a child, I went out of body, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:00:19.31,1:00:25.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had spirit entities coming into my bedroom when I was six and seven years old. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:00:25.64,1:00:31.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I saw things and I went out of my body. That's another experience when I was eight years old: Dialogue: Marked=0,1:00:32.10,1:00:36.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I went out to a terrible accident and I was there and saw the accident happen. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:00:37.29,1:00:40.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I came back into my body and told my parents what had happened. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:00:40.63,1:00:45.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The next morning in the newspaper exactly what I said happened exactly as I said, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:00:45.36,1:00:46.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I was there and I saw it, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:00:47.21,1:00:51.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I was there at the accident and saw all the details of what happened. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:00:51.79,1:00:55.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the next morning in the newspaper, exactly what I said happened Dialogue: Marked=0,1:00:55.46,1:00:56.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was in the newspaper. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:00:57.14,1:01:03.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so I've had aliens at my window, at night in Florida. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:01:03.97,1:01:09.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I wake up at night I see this little creature at my window. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:01:09.31,1:01:12.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because as a little kid I pulled my bed up next to the window, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:01:12.89,1:01:14.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and in Florida it's very hot at night, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:01:15.19,1:01:18.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so I pulled my bed right up next to the window. I have a screen Dialogue: Marked=0,1:01:19.39,1:01:25.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I... because I would like to lay in bed at night and look at the stars and talk to the spirits. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:01:27.60,1:01:30.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I would wake up in the middle of the night and there'd be a little head [that] would move. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:01:32.05,1:01:35.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It would not move so quick I didn't see it, but it would move Dialogue: Marked=0,1:01:35.80,1:01:39.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when I woke up and I'd see it. And I immediately opened up the screen Dialogue: Marked=0,1:01:39.71,1:01:43.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the yard was well lit up from a full moon, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:01:44.23,1:01:47.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my dog was out there -- didn't bark at all -- Dialogue: Marked=0,1:01:48.75,1:01:50.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and yet I know I saw something move. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:01:51.04,1:01:54.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I would do it many times. Many times I would wake up in the middle of the night Dialogue: Marked=0,1:01:54.86,1:01:57.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I'd see a little head move quickly. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:01:58.06,1:02:01.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so... but when I'd look out, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:02:01.37,1:02:04.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the dog didn't see anything and there is nothing in the yard. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:02:05.61,1:02:06.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Something was there. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:02:08.36,1:02:12.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I grew up having other-world experiences, seeing aliens, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:02:13.06,1:02:15.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,having demonic spirits come in my bedroom... Dialogue: Marked=0,1:02:16.21,1:02:21.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Some people watching this will already have heard you tell this story Dialogue: Marked=0,1:02:21.20,1:02:24.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the September 2009 Project Camelot interview. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:02:24.91,1:02:28.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is it possible that you could give another abbreviated version of that Dialogue: Marked=0,1:02:28.85,1:02:31.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- encounter with your girlfriend's father?\N- Oh yeah, yeah. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:02:31.38,1:02:34.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because that fits together so perfectly with these stories you've been telling here. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:02:34.56,1:02:37.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- It's kind of nice if it's all in the same bundle... \N- Yeah, yeah. That's fine. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:02:37.60,1:02:45.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In 1959, '59, I was 19 years old, born in 1940, so '59, I was 19, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:02:46.01,1:02:51.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I ended up in Los Angeles. I had to go to Los Angeles for some reason. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:02:52.14,1:02:56.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I ended up there, I have no money, I don't know where I am, I'm in a big city, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:02:57.04,1:03:02.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't know what I'm doing here -- but, you know, I was a kid on the run -- so here I am in L.A. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:03:03.43,1:03:10.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And one morning in North Hollywood, I went in a restaurant, in North Hollywood, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:03:11.92,1:03:17.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,1959, and the place was full so there's no room anywhere Dialogue: Marked=0,1:03:17.97,1:03:20.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,except for one seat at the counter. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:03:20.71,1:03:24.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I took the seat at the counter and there was a girl sitting next to me. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:03:24.44,1:03:29.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She was probably... I was 19, she's probably like 17 or so, a little younger than I. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:03:29.92,1:03:33.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we started talking and come to find out, she only lived a couple blocks from me Dialogue: Marked=0,1:03:33.90,1:03:37.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I only lived about three blocks from town and she lived two blocks from me. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:03:37.82,1:03:41.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She had walked downtown, and I had walked downtown. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:03:42.15,1:03:45.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we hung around town for a while and then we walked home together. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:03:46.58,1:03:49.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then we started meeting on the Saturdays and Sundays; Dialogue: Marked=0,1:03:49.58,1:03:53.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'd meet her downtown and we'd just hang out together and then when we'd walk home, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:03:54.14,1:03:58.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She lived two blocks further than me, so I never walked home with her Dialogue: Marked=0,1:03:58.61,1:04:00.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but she knew where I lived. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:04:01.66,1:04:06.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And one night, it was on a Friday night, it was a very eventful thing that happened. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:04:07.05,1:04:10.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One night on a Friday night, she knocked on my door Dialogue: Marked=0,1:04:11.14,1:04:15.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about 10 o'clock at night and she said, "My dad wants to talk to you." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:04:16.13,1:04:18.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, of course, I don't want to talk to anybody's dad; Dialogue: Marked=0,1:04:18.34,1:04:21.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I said, "I don't want to talk to him. I got nothing to say to him." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:04:21.77,1:04:24.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And she said, "My father's a very important and interesting man, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:04:24.65,1:04:28.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he wants... he's got something to tell you. You need to come with me." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:04:28.89,1:04:30.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I said, "Okay." So I went. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:04:30.88,1:04:32.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And as I was walking with her Dialogue: Marked=0,1:04:33.74,1:04:37.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,up to the house, he happened by chance to be coming out of the house. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:04:38.86,1:04:44.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the moment I saw him, the hair raised up on the back of my neck, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:04:45.40,1:04:49.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because of the {\i1}feeling{\i0}, the involuntary {\i1}feeling {\i0}I got, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:04:50.46,1:04:52.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was so {\i1}overwhelming{\i0}. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:04:53.31,1:04:55.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I was shocked at the feeling I got from him. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:04:56.61,1:05:02.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I guess, with an immediacy, I knew there's something strange about {\i1}this {\i0}man. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:05:02.66,1:05:06.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm {\i1}feeling{\i0} it already. But I {\i1}love {\i0}it! Dialogue: Marked=0,1:05:06.87,1:05:09.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not fearful; it's a trip! Dialogue: Marked=0,1:05:09.70,1:05:13.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't know who this guy is but I can't get enough of this {\i1}feeling{\i0}. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:05:14.39,1:05:19.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so he made the... {\i1}Come on in{\i0}. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:05:19.31,1:05:22.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the thing I noticed about him immediately is that Dialogue: Marked=0,1:05:22.10,1:05:26.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've never seen anyone more in control of themselves than him. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:05:27.07,1:05:30.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He knew precisely what he was doing; the way he moved, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:05:30.51,1:05:34.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,his mannerisms, his whole demeanor was very strange. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:05:34.61,1:05:35.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[He] said, "Come on in." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:05:36.92,1:05:40.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I thought, {\i1}Wow, I don't know who this is but I'm feeling something here{\i0}. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:05:41.37,1:05:44.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I went in and we're sitting on the sofa. He's... Dialogue: Marked=0,1:05:44.93,1:05:47.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm sitting on one end, he's sitting on the other end of the sofa, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:05:48.61,1:05:52.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my girlfriend is sitting on the floor with her Dialogue: Marked=0,1:05:52.88,1:05:55.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,younger sister about ten years old; they're sitting on the floor. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:05:56.06,1:05:59.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The mother's in the kitchen or somewhere in the back room and Dialogue: Marked=0,1:06:01.78,1:06:04.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he's just talking; just small talk, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:06:04.36,1:06:08.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,asking me how do you like your job and how do you like living in California, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:06:08.66,1:06:13.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and my daughter says that you have been very kind to her and I want to thank you for Dialogue: Marked=0,1:06:14.20,1:06:20.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,treating my daughter with respect, and we were talking back an forth, just little stuff. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:06:21.94,1:06:26.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I was beginning to feel a little bit better about him; he's talking normal human things. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:06:27.39,1:06:32.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I'm feeling a little bit better, a little bit more at ease and, he knew that. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:06:33.63,1:06:38.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then he said to me, he said, "Remember back when you were eight years old Dialogue: Marked=0,1:06:39.03,1:06:42.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and back in Florida and your dad built a new back porch? Dialogue: Marked=0,1:06:42.13,1:06:44.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Remember the back porch was falling apart and your dad Dialogue: Marked=0,1:06:45.06,1:06:49.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and your dad's brother; they built a new back porch at the house Dialogue: Marked=0,1:06:49.89,1:06:54.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and your dad used green lumber -- smelled funny because it was green lumber -- and, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:06:54.71,1:06:57.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you remember that when your dad built that back porch?" Dialogue: Marked=0,1:06:58.04,1:07:00.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And... it shocked me, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:07:01.58,1:07:04.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I didn't want to show tears in front of my girlfriend but it was shocking. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:07:06.51,1:07:07.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I said "Yes". Dialogue: Marked=0,1:07:07.85,1:07:10.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said, "Well, did that happen?" I said: "Yes, It did." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:07:11.39,1:07:14.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he says then: "Remember one night, you were in bed Dialogue: Marked=0,1:07:15.08,1:07:17.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you got out of bed and you went out on the back porch, remember? Dialogue: Marked=0,1:07:18.45,1:07:20.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the moon was really bright. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:07:20.89,1:07:24.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And remember how you picked the wood with your finger; you were peeling the wood Dialogue: Marked=0,1:07:24.78,1:07:27.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it smelled funny at night, the green lumber, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:07:27.93,1:07:32.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you picked it and was smelling the wood? You remember doing that?" Dialogue: Marked=0,1:07:33.24,1:07:38.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And again, I was even more frightened, and I said: "Yes." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:07:38.10,1:07:40.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said: "Well did you do that or didn't you?" I said: "Yes, I did." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:07:41.68,1:07:44.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said: "And what else did you do? You talked to God, didn't you?" Dialogue: Marked=0,1:07:46.09,1:07:48.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I said: "Yes." And he said: "What did you say to God? Dialogue: Marked=0,1:07:48.60,1:07:51.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Remember, you looked up at the moon and you talked to God." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:07:52.00,1:07:55.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I was just looking at him. I was scared and he said, "What did you do? Dialogue: Marked=0,1:07:56.12,1:07:59.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You said to God that you would like to do something important with your life. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:08:01.15,1:08:02.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Isn't that what you said?" Dialogue: Marked=0,1:08:02.68,1:08:04.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I said: "Yeah, that's what I said." He said: "Well, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:08:05.40,1:08:09.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's why you're here. We brought you here to let you do something important with your life. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:08:10.01,1:08:11.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,After all, you asked. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:08:12.38,1:08:15.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so, we've decided to give you something important to do." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:08:16.54,1:08:18.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I said: "I don't understand." He says: "It's not important. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:08:19.72,1:08:21.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But you did say that, didn't you?" "Yes." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:08:22.54,1:08:25.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"How would I know that?" He said, "How did I know all of that?" Dialogue: Marked=0,1:08:26.40,1:08:28.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I said: "I don't know how you know that." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:08:28.12,1:08:30.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said: "I know that because we were there. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:08:31.04,1:08:33.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When you were talking to God, we were there. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:08:34.53,1:08:38.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, you wanted an opportunity to do something, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:08:38.06,1:08:40.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so we're going to give you an opportunity to do something." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:08:40.88,1:08:43.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I said, "Who is we? Who are you talking about?" Dialogue: Marked=0,1:08:43.38,1:08:46.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He said: "That's not important right now. You'll learn later." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:08:46.92,1:08:50.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said: "But we also..." He said, "You're very interested in UFOs Dialogue: Marked=0,1:08:50.69,1:08:53.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and aliens and spooky stuff like that, aren't you?" Dialogue: Marked=0,1:08:53.85,1:08:55.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I said: "Yeah, I'm very interested." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:08:55.26,1:08:57.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said: "Yeah I know. We know that." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:08:58.39,1:09:01.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said: "Would you like to see some UFOs tonight?" Dialogue: Marked=0,1:09:02.26,1:09:03.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I said: "Yes I'd like to." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:09:03.46,1:09:05.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He said: "Well I can do that for you. Come on. I'll show you." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:09:06.68,1:09:09.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I got up with him, and the two girls got up, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:09:09.80,1:09:13.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the two girls, myself and the father, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:09:13.74,1:09:22.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the four of us go out in the front lawn, probably about midnight, 1959. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:09:22.89,1:09:26.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he looks up in the sky and he starts inaudibly talking. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:09:26.51,1:09:29.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's moving his mouth, he's talking, but you can't hear him. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:09:30.55,1:09:34.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then he turns to me and he said, "They said they'll be here in a couple minutes. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:09:34.44,1:09:39.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They'll be coming from over here, southeast. They'll be coming here in a couple minutes." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:09:40.13,1:09:42.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I said: "Who?" And he said: "You'll see. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:09:43.60,1:09:46.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You wanted to see UFOs, right?" "Yes." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:09:46.29,1:09:47.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Well, just wait. They'll be here." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:09:48.68,1:09:51.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so I look at my girlfriend and she's looking at me, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:09:51.37,1:09:55.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the look on her face was... it was... she was saying to me, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:09:55.31,1:09:58.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}Yeah, I told you my father was an interesting and important man. I told you.{\i0} Dialogue: Marked=0,1:09:59.96,1:10:04.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I was looking at her trying to imagine,{\i1} Is this a trick or some...{\i0} Dialogue: Marked=0,1:10:04.44,1:10:07.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}but how would he know the things about me that he knew?{\i0} Dialogue: Marked=0,1:10:08.96,1:10:12.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}And who is this man that I'm fascinated with?{\i0} Dialogue: Marked=0,1:10:13.09,1:10:19.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And sure enough, a couple minutes later, three UFOs, disc-shaped Dialogue: Marked=0,1:10:19.38,1:10:23.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,things about the size of the full moon Dialogue: Marked=0,1:10:23.82,1:10:28.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the sky -- that's how big they were, not a little light, full-moon size, three of them -- Dialogue: Marked=0,1:10:29.14,1:10:33.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,come out over in a triangle formation and stop right over the top of me, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:10:33.88,1:10:35.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,right over the top of us. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:10:35.51,1:10:39.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I'm looking up at this, and the bottoms -- they were all three identical -- Dialogue: Marked=0,1:10:40.36,1:10:47.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,making no sound, and they're all three circulating like a pie with six or eight Dialogue: Marked=0,1:10:48.01,1:10:50.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,slices and each slice is a different color, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:10:51.25,1:10:54.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but they were {\i1}vibrant {\i0}colors, like laser color. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:10:54.52,1:10:59.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Very vibrant. Oranges, pinks and greens. And they were circulating, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:10:59.84,1:11:03.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but not so fast as to blend the colors. And... three of them. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:11:04.11,1:11:09.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I'm standing there looking at them thinking, {\i1}My god this is beautiful.{\i0} Dialogue: Marked=0,1:11:09.76,1:11:13.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's such an eerie feeling. It's quiet at night. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:11:14.25,1:11:18.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's late. I'm standing out here with a man that's blowing my mind, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:11:18.58,1:11:20.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I'm looking at three UFOs. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:11:21.06,1:11:24.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then he looks up and starts inaudibly talking to them again. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:11:25.22,1:11:27.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said, "They said that they're leaving now. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:11:28.85,1:11:33.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're going now." And so they did. They started moving. They went north very slow, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:11:33.75,1:11:35.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very slow, until they were out of sight. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:11:36.82,1:11:38.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I said: "What was that?" Dialogue: Marked=0,1:11:39.23,1:11:40.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said: "That's us." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:11:41.63,1:11:45.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said: "Why are you in California? Why did you come here?" Dialogue: Marked=0,1:11:46.31,1:11:48.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I said: "I don't know. I have no idea." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:11:48.11,1:11:50.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He said: "That's right. We brought you here." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:11:51.57,1:11:55.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"You said you wanted to do something for God, didn't you?" "Yes." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:11:55.51,1:11:58.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Well, then we have brought you here so that you can do something for God." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:12:00.00,1:12:03.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I said: "I don't understand what you're talking about." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:12:03.67,1:12:06.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He says: "We have something for you to do, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:12:07.84,1:12:10.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we've been watching you from day one. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:12:11.26,1:12:13.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We've already decided a long time ago, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:12:14.42,1:12:17.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,even before you were eight years old, we've already decided. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:12:18.19,1:12:22.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we brought you here to start you on your journey, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:12:22.60,1:12:24.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to begin your life for you. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:12:25.99,1:12:30.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We're going to guide your life, so that you learn what you're supposed to. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:12:30.15,1:12:34.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You will have all the experiences that we will see to it that you will have, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:12:34.41,1:12:37.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that one day, he said, what you're going to do for us Dialogue: Marked=0,1:12:37.53,1:12:39.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will not happen until the last part of your life. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:12:40.70,1:12:42.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's going to be the very last part of your life, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:12:43.18,1:12:46.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but when that day comes, you will know what it is you will have to do. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:12:47.98,1:12:50.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You will know what it is you will have to do. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:12:50.47,1:12:53.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Right now it's not important. You just go on out and live your life. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:12:53.88,1:12:57.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We will see to it that you meet who you're supposed to, and learn what you're supposed to, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:12:58.30,1:13:00.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and when it's time we'll let you know what you need to do. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:13:01.90,1:13:02.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We'll be there." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:13:04.27,1:13:10.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so, I used to go over to his house. That night, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:13:11.05,1:13:14.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he said, "To start you on your journey, tonight Dialogue: Marked=0,1:13:15.23,1:13:19.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm going to start you on your new journey, where you're going, in your life. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:13:19.80,1:13:21.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm going to give you a book." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:13:21.82,1:13:25.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The book he gave me was called {\i1}The Complete Works of Charles Fort{\i0}, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:13:26.12,1:13:28.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,F-o-r-t. Charles Fort. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:13:28.77,1:13:32.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Charles Fort is very well known for his work. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:13:32.42,1:13:35.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He actually wrote three books, probably a lot more, but Dialogue: Marked=0,1:13:35.91,1:13:37.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the three most important books Dialogue: Marked=0,1:13:37.89,1:13:42.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were put into one big volume, now, and so you can get it as a very thick volume, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:13:42.90,1:13:45.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,called {\i1}The Complete Works of Charles Fort.{\i0} Dialogue: Marked=0,1:13:45.83,1:13:48.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what made his book so interesting, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:13:49.24,1:13:51.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and why the father gave it to me, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:13:52.56,1:13:56.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that Charles Fort has documented, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:13:57.26,1:14:03.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a thick book, on all the strangest things which have happened in the world, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:14:04.52,1:14:09.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which were documented, and which have no explanation at all. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:14:09.78,1:14:14.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No one even ventures to even try and answer them. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:14:14.46,1:14:17.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's just strange stuff that have happened, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:14:17.66,1:14:23.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and no one has any idea how, or what it means, and he documents it. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:14:23.42,1:14:29.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But what makes his book so interesting is that he documents everything with every paragraph. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:14:30.17,1:14:36.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No matter, every paragraph has documentation: where he saw this, where he found this. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:14:37.07,1:14:41.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, where he got this information, where he got that information, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:14:43.50,1:14:48.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and what page it was on, who wrote the article, and everything. So you could find anything. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:14:48.15,1:14:52.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's all right there, documented. Paragraph by paragraph. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:14:54.14,1:15:01.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the kind of things he found were just so extraordinary, mind-blowing stuff, but it's all there. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:15:01.54,1:15:07.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The world is filled with strange things that have happened that nobody has any explanation for. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:15:09.13,1:15:13.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And when he gave me that book, I know he gave it to me because Dialogue: Marked=0,1:15:14.18,1:15:18.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it opened up my mind to the occult world. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:15:19.19,1:15:21.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}Occult {\i0}simply means hidden. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:15:22.02,1:15:26.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so that book opened my mind at 19 years old to... Dialogue: Marked=0,1:15:26.93,1:15:30.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because I had already been well involved in Dialogue: Marked=0,1:15:30.38,1:15:34.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the other-world knowledge and strange stuff in my childhood. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:15:35.57,1:15:38.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But for the first time, I had it documented, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:15:39.03,1:15:44.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,strange stuff, that nobody understands how it happened, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:15:44.37,1:15:46.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's all documented in one book. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:15:47.26,1:15:51.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that, I believe, he gave me that book to Dialogue: Marked=0,1:15:52.04,1:15:59.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,get me started in realizing that the world is far stranger than you imagine. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:16:00.06,1:16:01.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Far, far stranger. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:16:01.99,1:16:06.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I like that one quote of the astronomer, I think it was, who said: Dialogue: Marked=0,1:16:06.45,1:16:09.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}The universe is not stranger than you imagine.{\i0} Dialogue: Marked=0,1:16:09.77,1:16:12.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}The universe is stranger than you {\i0}can {\i1}imagine.{\i0} Dialogue: Marked=0,1:16:12.47,1:16:16.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That was the great British astronomer and physicist Sir Arthur Eddington. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:16:17.30,1:16:20.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Incredible quote. That's exactly right. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:16:21.32,1:16:24.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And when you read Charles Fort's book, you think, {\i1}Wow,{\i0} Dialogue: Marked=0,1:16:24.89,1:16:26.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}this stuff actually happened?{\i0} Dialogue: Marked=0,1:16:27.49,1:16:33.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, and it just defies your imagination as to what all of these incidents.... Dialogue: Marked=0,1:16:33.64,1:16:40.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so, to get me interested, he said, "Let me give you an idea about what's in the book." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:16:41.11,1:16:48.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it was a big thick book, and he just opened it up, just nonchalantly, opened it up to a page. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:16:49.09,1:16:52.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I now know that it was not nonchalant. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:16:52.80,1:16:57.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He knew exactly what he was doing. He knew exactly how to get my attention. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:16:58.86,1:17:05.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's other-worldly how he knew, my psyche and my spirit, to get my attention. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:17:05.82,1:17:07.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he says, "Let me read you something." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:17:08.53,1:17:12.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the first thing he read me was about a city, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:17:12.31,1:17:15.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a little town, a small town in California, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:17:15.86,1:17:20.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mid-California. Back in the 1860's I think, 1870's. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:17:21.48,1:17:25.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's happened to that little town two or three times, in that same town. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:17:26.85,1:17:31.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,On a clear day, a sunny clear day with no clouds in the sky, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:17:32.12,1:17:35.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,enormous boulders, tons and tons Dialogue: Marked=0,1:17:36.22,1:17:41.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of boulders would fall out of the sky, on a clear day. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:17:42.13,1:17:45.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they had newspaper people there reporting it. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:17:45.74,1:17:47.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That town's people saw it, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:17:48.30,1:17:51.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but the thing that made it interesting is that the boulders Dialogue: Marked=0,1:17:51.68,1:17:54.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were like, some of them two and three tons a piece, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:17:55.55,1:17:57.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,falling out of a clear blue sky. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:17:58.21,1:18:01.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But they didn't fall at the normal rate of speed. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:18:01.73,1:18:04.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It took all day for them to come down. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:18:04.11,1:18:06.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All day long, they come down slow. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:18:07.41,1:18:11.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And when they hit the ground, they would bury themselves in the ground Dialogue: Marked=0,1:18:11.65,1:18:14.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where they normally would, at normal speed, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:18:14.40,1:18:18.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the dirt would fly up very slow, all in slow motion. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:18:19.17,1:18:24.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the whole thing was... you could sit and watch it all day long. It was all in slow motion. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:18:24.60,1:18:28.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But when the rock had finally settled, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:18:29.03,1:18:33.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it would be exactly where it would have been, normally, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:18:34.11,1:18:38.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it would be exactly the way, you know, what would have happened normally, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:18:38.42,1:18:43.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it took all day for it to happen. So it was obviously a time warp. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:18:44.25,1:18:48.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But these things were coming from somewhere out there, in a time warp, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:18:49.15,1:18:54.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and hitting this little town. This happened two or three times in the same town. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:18:55.27,1:18:57.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's documented, it really happened. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:18:58.32,1:19:01.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And if a house or a car or something was in the way, it's too bad, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:19:01.93,1:19:05.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because this thing is just coming down and it would just crash right through the house, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:19:05.88,1:19:07.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,crash through the car or whatever, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:19:07.67,1:19:09.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and there's nothing you're going to do to stop them, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:19:10.25,1:19:12.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because they were in another time warp. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:19:13.25,1:19:15.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And how do you explain that? Nobody could. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:19:15.97,1:19:19.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But that's just... and then he looked at me and he said, "That's just one story." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:19:20.26,1:19:21.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said, "Here's another one." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:19:22.13,1:19:26.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he just run through the book and found another page and read another paragraph. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:19:27.56,1:19:31.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the second paragraph was even stranger than the first one. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:19:31.94,1:19:35.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he read me about three or four different paragraphs, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:19:36.55,1:19:39.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he said, "Do you see what I'm talking about?" Dialogue: Marked=0,1:19:40.10,1:19:43.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I said, "Yes, I love this book, I love this stuff." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:19:43.53,1:19:45.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So he said, "Well I'm giving it to you. Go read it." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:19:47.33,1:19:51.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so I started going over to the house. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:19:52.00,1:19:54.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sometimes I'd go over in the evenings after work. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:19:54.13,1:19:58.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'd go over and sit and talk with him and he would tell me all kinds of strange things about Dialogue: Marked=0,1:19:58.62,1:20:02.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what it's like on other worlds out there, and who's here on the Earth Dialogue: Marked=0,1:20:02.74,1:20:06.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and where they've come from, the different alien life forms, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:20:06.35,1:20:08.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where they've come from and why they're here. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:20:08.74,1:20:10.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you remember anything about what he told you? Dialogue: Marked=0,1:20:10.82,1:20:15.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, well he... we used to go up to Palmdale, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:20:16.01,1:20:21.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Two or three times he and the two girls and the wife and myself, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:20:22.11,1:20:24.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and those were incredible precious times. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:20:25.12,1:20:29.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The girl would come over and say, "We're going up this morning. Come with us." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:20:29.42,1:20:34.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I'd go over there and we'd go, I'll go in his car and we go up in the desert Dialogue: Marked=0,1:20:35.06,1:20:39.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about 50 miles north of Los Angeles up in the high desert, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:20:40.11,1:20:41.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it's way out in the desert. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:20:42.14,1:20:46.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the girls would go with their mom and they'd be wandering around the desert. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:20:47.09,1:20:49.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But he and I would go, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:20:50.45,1:20:56.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he would show me mounds and holes, and the mounds and holes in the Earth Dialogue: Marked=0,1:20:57.01,1:20:59.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I'd never seen before, and he says, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:21:00.05,1:21:04.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"These were made by aliens many, many years ago. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:21:05.44,1:21:09.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he says, "I want to show you..." And we went to some mines also. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:21:09.04,1:21:11.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He knew where these different mines were. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:21:11.60,1:21:16.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But he was telling me that there are certain places under the earth Dialogue: Marked=0,1:21:16.62,1:21:21.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that these particular aliens live, where they stay. It's under the earth. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:21:21.98,1:21:25.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said, "I'll show a couple of the places, but you don't want to go in them. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:21:26.31,1:21:28.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's their property and not yours. So... Dialogue: Marked=0,1:21:28.81,1:21:31.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they look at it very jealously as their property. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:21:31.23,1:21:35.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So don't mess with their property. Don't go in. They didn't ask you to come in. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:21:35.92,1:21:39.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he says, "But, you know, as long as I'm with you, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:21:39.17,1:21:41.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you'll be all right, because I'll tell you where not to go." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:21:42.24,1:21:44.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Do you remember where those places were...\N- Yeah. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:21:44.37,1:21:47.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And who those aliens were, and what they...? Dialogue: Marked=0,1:21:47.18,1:21:51.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't remember the names of aliens, or the exact information, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:21:51.86,1:21:54.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I remember where those places are. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:21:54.57,1:21:58.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Where are they? \N- Well, pretty... I would say, I can't take you right to it, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:21:58.55,1:22:02.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I can take you to the area and say: {\i1}Okay. Let's go out here and you'll find them.{\i0} Dialogue: Marked=0,1:22:02.61,1:22:13.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's up in Palmdale, off of, what is it, Pear Blossom Highway? I think it's Pear Blossom Highway. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:22:15.11,1:22:23.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's off of Pear Blossom Highway, but I'd have to get out there and I would know it when I see it. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:22:24.51,1:22:28.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Even though it's changed a lot out there. But I remember Dialogue: Marked=0,1:22:28.45,1:22:32.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about a year or so ago I was driving from Vegas, coming back through. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:22:33.17,1:22:37.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I remember this area and I slowed down and stopped and I remembered this dirt road. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:22:38.25,1:22:43.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it's still there. It still hasn't been built up and built over. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:22:44.12,1:22:50.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what's the story, as best you remember, of what these aliens are doing Dialogue: Marked=0,1:22:50.07,1:22:53.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in that area? Do you remember anything about what he told you? Dialogue: Marked=0,1:22:53.91,1:23:01.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not really. He was... I think, basically, what I got from it and what I remembered from it, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:23:01.54,1:23:06.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was that there were different ones here. And that there are good ones and bad ones, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:23:07.15,1:23:14.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he said that even some of the good ones here.... he said, "But we have enemies. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:23:15.37,1:23:19.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They have come here, and we have other business out there with them. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:23:20.62,1:23:25.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And since we're here, they came here. And so we have enemies here. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:23:26.05,1:23:30.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not human enemies. We got serious enemies here. But we've got a standoff. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:23:31.39,1:23:34.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We're powerful and they are too, but we got kind of like a standoff. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:23:34.89,1:23:38.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But we have enemies. And we are their enemy." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:23:39.79,1:23:46.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so... and he was telling me about the reptile aliens. That was back in 1959. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:23:46.92,1:23:48.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what did he tell you about that? Dialogue: Marked=0,1:23:49.69,1:23:55.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't remember specifically but I just remember him talking about reptile aliens, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:23:55.53,1:24:00.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I really didn't comprehend what he was talking about exactly. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:24:00.98,1:24:05.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was such a strange concept to me. Reptile aliens. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:24:06.53,1:24:11.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At 1959. I don't even know what he was talking about. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:24:12.57,1:24:19.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the one thing that stands out in my mind above everything is that I knew Dialogue: Marked=0,1:24:20.67,1:24:27.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that this man was absolutely of another world, and I connected with it. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:24:28.67,1:24:32.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was as if I was... it wasn't that I Dialogue: Marked=0,1:24:32.62,1:24:36.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,understood it and was into it. No, no. This was part of me. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:24:37.52,1:24:41.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's part of my person, who I am. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:24:42.41,1:24:47.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But he was initiating me into a secret of who I really am. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:24:48.70,1:24:51.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I felt it. I just felt I'm part of him. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:24:51.50,1:24:56.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I know now who I am, and I know that I'm not of this world. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:24:57.84,1:25:02.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that was just an overwhelming feeling I had. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:25:02.69,1:25:05.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I just loved it, I loved being around him, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:25:05.24,1:25:09.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because when I was around him, I was in {\i1}my{\i0} world. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:25:09.10,1:25:11.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was with my people, so to speak. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:25:12.47,1:25:16.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And god that was an incredible experience, being in his company. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:25:17.56,1:25:20.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And one day I went over to -- in the morning, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:25:20.88,1:25:23.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's on a weekend morning -- I went over Dialogue: Marked=0,1:25:23.96,1:25:29.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to see if he was going to go anywhere, and he was gone. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:25:30.77,1:25:35.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They just left. The house was empty, the doors were all open, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:25:35.74,1:25:42.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,windows were all open. They were just gone, never to see them again. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:25:45.66,1:25:48.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And she didn't come and tell me she was leaving. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:25:49.59,1:25:52.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Only two blocks. She could have told me she was going. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:25:53.70,1:25:57.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it was like my family. They left me. They're gone. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:25:58.87,1:26:03.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I walked home so dejected. I couldn't believe my family, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:26:04.67,1:26:09.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this wonderful association, this wonderful man that I know, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:26:09.81,1:26:14.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and this family, and they're all gone, and no one said anything to me. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:26:15.05,1:26:20.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I often wondered, whatever happened to... Why did they leave and never told me? Dialogue: Marked=0,1:26:21.58,1:26:27.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But now I look back on those years and my gut feeling is, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:26:27.89,1:26:30.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he did what he was supposed to do. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:26:31.78,1:26:34.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He did what he was supposed to do. Get me started. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:26:35.23,1:26:40.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Other people will come into my life who is a part of his group, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:26:40.61,1:26:43.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they will continue to move me along. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:26:44.15,1:26:49.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The old man in the truck, he was the next, he was connected too. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:26:53.21,1:26:56.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, all these different people I've met and all these strange things, they were Dialogue: Marked=0,1:26:56.76,1:27:01.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,part of the same group who were just kind of around me; Dialogue: Marked=0,1:27:01.09,1:27:05.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and every time I need a little encouragement, they'll pop in at the right moment Dialogue: Marked=0,1:27:06.63,1:27:10.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and give you another mind-blowing experience and then they'll move on again. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:27:10.94,1:27:14.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it's like they're moving you through life, but watching you. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:27:15.72,1:27:18.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Some people watching this video now, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:27:19.13,1:27:25.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,may have already seen my interview with Freedom Central in November 2009, and Dialogue: Marked=0,1:27:26.34,1:27:29.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't want to steal your thunder here by jumping in with my story, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:27:29.61,1:27:32.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but just as a very brief summary, in that interview, I told Dialogue: Marked=0,1:27:33.11,1:27:44.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how back in 1984 or 1985 -- which was when I was 31, 32 years old -- Dialogue: Marked=0,1:27:45.67,1:27:51.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had a girlfriend who I began to realize after a number of years, wasn't an ordinary human being. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:27:52.72,1:28:00.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And she left me out of the blue, and what triggered this little story here was your Dialogue: Marked=0,1:28:00.86,1:28:05.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,going to their house and being devastated when you'd discovered that they'd gone. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:28:05.38,1:28:09.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I was devastated when my girlfriend left me. And she told me, she said, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:28:10.25,1:28:12.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-- and this not usually how people end a relationship -- Dialogue: Marked=0,1:28:13.04,1:28:18.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,she said, "My purpose in your life is complete." She told me. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:28:19.18,1:28:24.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had no way of handling that. I had absolutely no way of handling that at all. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:28:24.63,1:28:26.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was devastated for quite a long time. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:28:28.15,1:28:31.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, of course, I understand it much more clearly, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:28:31.52,1:28:33.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in exactly the way that you've presented it, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:28:33.72,1:28:39.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which was that there was a coaching and a mentoring and guiding going on. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:28:39.32,1:28:45.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I needed that catalyst, that catalytic experience... Dialogue: Marked=0,1:28:45.96,1:28:49.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- That's right.\N- ...at that stage of my life in order... Dialogue: Marked=0,1:28:50.28,1:28:51.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No, let me start that sentence again: Dialogue: Marked=0,1:28:52.21,1:28:55.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,without which I might not be doing that I'm doing at the moment. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:28:55.36,1:28:58.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- That's precisely right.\N- And it's the same with you.\N- Exactly. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:28:58.09,1:29:02.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And probably like you, I've heard these stories from many people all over the world, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:29:02.28,1:29:05.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and while none of them are identical, many of them have the same theme. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:29:05.63,1:29:08.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Mm-hm.\N- I assume that you get people writing to you about Dialogue: Marked=0,1:29:08.64,1:29:10.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- this stuff as well.\N- Oh yeah. Absolutely. I sure have. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:29:11.83,1:29:17.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So that's why I know that I have a connection with him. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:29:17.66,1:29:21.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And with something greater that's out there. That I know. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:29:21.89,1:29:25.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's what has led me all of my life, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:29:25.48,1:29:30.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in spite of everything that has happened to me, and all the setbacks Dialogue: Marked=0,1:29:30.07,1:29:34.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and all the tragedies and all the horror stories that's happened to me. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:29:37.46,1:29:46.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have always known that there is something out there and it's watching you, you know, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:29:47.22,1:29:52.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you're just merely a part of something other-worldly that's going on. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:29:53.29,1:29:57.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's something else going on here on the Earth and it's not of this world, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:29:58.09,1:30:03.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and whatever it is, it could be aliens... It's probably alien life forms, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:30:04.30,1:30:10.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but somebody else is in charge. That's why I have said, and we've talked about this before, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:30:10.51,1:30:18.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't mind, you know, letting someone else guide my life. I don't mind that at all. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:30:19.96,1:30:25.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And another analogy that I could offer here, not wanting to trivialize it, but Dialogue: Marked=0,1:30:25.40,1:30:28.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's like if you are a football player -- and I know what you think about ball games, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:30:28.20,1:30:31.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but some of the people here watching this video might appreciate the analogy -- Dialogue: Marked=0,1:30:32.00,1:30:35.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's like a tough ball game. And you're out there, on the football field. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:30:35.38,1:30:37.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you're getting slammed into, and you're getting winded, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:30:37.47,1:30:39.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you're getting knocked down, and you're getting bruised, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:30:39.37,1:30:42.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you wish that you weren't there, and you're having a tough time... And you think, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:30:42.18,1:30:45.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}God, this is a, this is a... okay, I'm not really enjoying this game anymore.{\i0} Dialogue: Marked=0,1:30:45.54,1:30:48.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then, during the break in the game, you go and talk to the coach. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:30:49.49,1:30:52.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then the coach reminds you what it is that you're doing, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:30:52.33,1:30:55.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and why you're a valuable team player, and how come you're going to win the next game, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:30:55.41,1:31:00.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because you won the last game, and this one is tough, but you haven't lost it yet. You know? Dialogue: Marked=0,1:31:00.14,1:31:04.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah. Then it kind of gives you a new thing, when this game goes back, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:31:04.78,1:31:06.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're ready to go back in and do it again. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:31:07.45,1:31:08.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah. You're right. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:31:08.58,1:31:11.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I'm not trivializing this by referring to the concept of games, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:31:12.34,1:31:14.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but if we see it all from a higher level, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:31:14.53,1:31:17.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then when we're in the game, it feels like it's life and death. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:31:17.38,1:31:18.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- You're right.\N- At the end of the game, you think, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:31:18.64,1:31:20.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}Hey, that was a good game. Let's go and have a beer.{\i0} Dialogue: Marked=0,1:31:21.05,1:31:23.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yeah.\N- You know?\N- You're right. Yeah. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:31:23.69,1:31:25.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For me, that's a concept that works quite well. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:31:26.01,1:31:29.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, I think you're right. My feeling is you're right. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:31:29.49,1:31:31.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's exactly right. Somebody's watching, and Dialogue: Marked=0,1:31:32.53,1:31:36.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the higher authority, when it sees that you need it, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:31:37.19,1:31:39.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like just kind of slipping now a little bit because you're human, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:31:40.71,1:31:43.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they give you a little picking up Dialogue: Marked=0,1:31:43.59,1:31:46.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to remind you who you are, and what you're here for. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:31:47.51,1:31:50.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Did I ever tell you what happened to me in New Jersey, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:31:50.16,1:31:52.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when I went back to do the ABC network show? Dialogue: Marked=0,1:31:53.87,1:31:55.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I didn't tell you that, did I? Dialogue: Marked=0,1:31:55.98,1:31:58.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- So far it doesn't ring a bell.\N- Okay. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:31:58.09,1:31:59.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tell it anyway. It doesn't matter whether you told me. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:31:59.95,1:32:03.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I did a radio show in Los Angeles. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:32:03.24,1:32:08.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My first radio show I had ever done as a interview, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:32:08.23,1:32:12.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the first time I was ever interviewed on radio, was Tom Leykis. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:32:12.16,1:32:15.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tom Leykis, in LA? Very famous talk show host. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:32:15.81,1:32:20.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And Tom Leykis called and wanted me on his show. Well, it was very famous Dialogue: Marked=0,1:32:20.86,1:32:23.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,talk show host. You get on his show and you've been somewhere. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:32:24.39,1:32:27.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it was on one of the biggest stations in town in LA, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:32:27.92,1:32:30.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he was the biggest talk show host at the time. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:32:30.73,1:32:38.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I went on, and I did a two-hour show with him Dialogue: Marked=0,1:32:38.97,1:32:41.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-- the first time I was ever on a radio doing an interview -- Dialogue: Marked=0,1:32:42.44,1:32:46.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I got such an enormous response from the audience. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:32:47.08,1:32:51.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But one guy called and said, "Jordan, I live in New York, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:32:51.66,1:32:55.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm the producer of the Bob Grant Show, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:32:55.65,1:32:58.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on ABC network in New York City." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:32:58.87,1:33:02.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He said, "Would you come to New York and do what you did on Tom Leykis' show, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:33:02.98,1:33:05.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,come to New York and do it on ABC network?" Dialogue: Marked=0,1:33:05.85,1:33:07.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I said, "Yeah, I would love to." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:33:09.20,1:33:11.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Since I don't know what I'm doing anyway, so... Dialogue: Marked=0,1:33:11.77,1:33:16.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so, I went to New York, and I was... Dialogue: Marked=0,1:33:16.29,1:33:21.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but when I got in, it was on a Sunday morning, I flew into New Jersey. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:33:22.69,1:33:30.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they had me have a hotel room in New Jersey at the airport hotel, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:33:31.14,1:33:34.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the next day they would have a car on Monday. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:33:34.67,1:33:36.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was going to be doing the interview, they were sending a Dialogue: Marked=0,1:33:36.81,1:33:39.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,car to pick me up to bring me into New York. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:33:39.87,1:33:47.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so, I was so tired, because I hadn't slept a day or so before; I was nervous, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:33:47.74,1:33:52.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know. This was only the second time I've ever done a radio interview. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:33:52.52,1:33:55.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it's ABC network, New York City, all right? Dialogue: Marked=0,1:33:55.88,1:33:58.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I'm nervous, and I didn't know what I was doing, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:33:58.98,1:34:02.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I figured this was part of who I am, so just grin and bear it. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:34:03.29,1:34:09.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so, I got in the hotel room, I was so tired I just collapsed on the bed, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:34:10.60,1:34:17.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I said out loud, I said, "Am I here by myself, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:34:17.87,1:34:21.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,doing this, or do I have somebody here that can help me?" Dialogue: Marked=0,1:34:22.45,1:34:26.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And all of the sudden the bed lifted up. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:34:27.10,1:34:30.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And as it began to move around the room, I was {\i1}startled{\i0}. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:34:31.49,1:34:36.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The bed's floating around the room! And it floated over toward the window. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:34:37.01,1:34:40.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I remember thinking, {\i1}If it hits that window, I'm jumping off this bed.{\i0} Dialogue: Marked=0,1:34:41.19,1:34:43.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}I'm not going out the window with this bed.{\i0} Dialogue: Marked=0,1:34:44.11,1:34:48.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And as it comes to the window, it turned around, and the bed turned completely around, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:34:48.96,1:34:51.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I'm on it, and I'm looking at this bed turning around, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:34:52.45,1:34:56.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I'm amazed, but I was startled. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:34:56.97,1:35:00.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I... I don't know what to think of this. And then the bed turned back around again, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:35:00.03,1:35:02.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where it was supposed to, and then sat down. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:35:04.38,1:35:07.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I thought, and I said, "Thank you." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:35:09.45,1:35:15.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And... I guess that's all you {\i1}can{\i0} say. You'd better just go to bed and go to sleep. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:35:15.81,1:35:21.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I just laid down and thought about what in the hell did I just experience? Dialogue: Marked=0,1:35:22.05,1:35:26.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This bed floated around the room, and then floated back into place and sat down, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:35:26.93,1:35:29.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I was so tired I just thought, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:35:30.80,1:35:34.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}Well, they didn't hurt me, so I'm going to go to sleep.{\i0} So... Dialogue: Marked=0,1:35:34.74,1:35:37.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sounds like the coach in your football game has got quite a sense of humor. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:35:37.42,1:35:39.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, exactly. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:35:39.54,1:35:42.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Am I here by myself? No, no, the room is Dialogue: Marked=0,1:35:42.28,1:35:44.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,filled with things you just don't know. You don't see it. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:35:45.67,1:35:49.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So they moved the bed around. I swear, it just scared me... Dialogue: Marked=0,1:35:49.69,1:35:53.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was such an experience having that bed move me around the room. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:35:54.52,1:35:55.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was incredible. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:35:57.53,1:35:59.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The answer to your question. You never... Dialogue: Marked=0,1:35:59.65,1:36:01.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Oh... \N- You never told me that one. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:36:01.67,1:36:05.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I always got... I always get {\i1}a{\i0} answer.\N- Well that's fabulous. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:36:05.70,1:36:09.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The most extraordinary thing, I think, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:36:09.26,1:36:12.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that's {\i1}truly{\i0} off the wall that happened to me, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:36:13.67,1:36:19.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I've had so many things like that, I'll tell you. But this really happened. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:36:19.55,1:36:22.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As crazy as it sounds, this actually happened. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:36:23.70,1:36:30.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was spending a long weekend at a friend's house in Los Angeles, up in the canyons. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:36:30.65,1:36:35.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He had a home, way up in the canyons, in the mountains, overlooking Los Angeles. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:36:35.91,1:36:40.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I had a young friend of mine, from Orange County, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:36:40.58,1:36:43.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that was friends with the owner also, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:36:43.40,1:36:45.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so he said, "Why don't both of you guys come up and hang out Dialogue: Marked=0,1:36:45.85,1:36:49.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for the long weekend, with us, with the family." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:36:49.39,1:36:52.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we did. So he give us the top bedroom; Dialogue: Marked=0,1:36:52.71,1:36:57.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was a three-tier home, up in the canyons, way up in the mountains, overlooking L.A. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:36:58.63,1:37:02.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so we had the top part, which is a big, huge bedroom, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:37:02.99,1:37:07.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and a pool... a pool table, and all kinds of stuff up there, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:37:07.51,1:37:10.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we were staying there for like three or four days. Well, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:37:10.95,1:37:15.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we went out at night, and there was a ladder on the roof at the top part. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:37:16.18,1:37:19.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we took some pillows out and some blankets, and we went up Dialogue: Marked=0,1:37:20.72,1:37:24.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and took a couple beers with us; and we sit up there, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:37:24.03,1:37:28.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and laid out there under the stars at night, just my friend and I, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:37:29.07,1:37:31.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and talking and chatting about stuff, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:37:32.20,1:37:37.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I got to talking about God, and the spirit world. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:37:37.95,1:37:41.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I have no idea why I did it, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:37:41.99,1:37:47.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but we were both sitting up looking at Los Angeles, beautiful lights of the city, and Dialogue: Marked=0,1:37:47.56,1:37:52.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we're sitting up on the roof, and for some reason, I said, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:37:52.86,1:37:58.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"God, if you are hearing me, would you have a meteorite hit this mountain here." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:37:58.99,1:38:03.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And when I said that, a meteor went {\i1}boom{\i0}, and hit the mountain. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:38:04.51,1:38:09.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he was shocked, and I was shocked. And we both looked at each other. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:38:10.81,1:38:15.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And for a moment, we would try to realize what just happened. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:38:16.65,1:38:22.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I said to my friend... Dialogue: Marked=0,1:38:23.78,1:38:28.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I looked at him. And he says, "What did you just do?" Dialogue: Marked=0,1:38:29.95,1:38:35.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I said, "I... I don't know. I just... I don't know why I said that." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:38:37.40,1:38:38.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it happened. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:38:39.39,1:38:43.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I said, "Would you hit the mountain with a meteor?" and that very moment, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:38:43.16,1:38:46.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}Boom,{\i0} it hit. And the whole... Dialogue: Marked=0,1:38:46.53,1:38:51.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all the lights in the Box Canyon, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:38:51.94,1:38:55.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all the lights came on in all the homes, because the ground shook. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:38:57.06,1:39:01.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And people came out with flashlights up in the hills; you could see them, and you could... Dialogue: Marked=0,1:39:01.87,1:39:05.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people were scared. That mountain was shook. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:39:06.00,1:39:10.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I sat there and was {\i1}amazed{\i0}. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:39:10.35,1:39:15.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why did I say that just a few seconds before it happened? Dialogue: Marked=0,1:39:16.93,1:39:19.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is truly amazing to me. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:39:20.78,1:39:24.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have no idea in the world, it's one of those freaky things Dialogue: Marked=0,1:39:25.09,1:39:27.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that there's no explanation for. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:39:28.12,1:39:32.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't know why I said it, and I have no idea why it happened the way it did. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:39:32.93,1:39:35.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was truly extraordinary. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:39:35.59,1:39:38.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The young man that was up there with me, he still lives in Las Vegas, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:39:38.79,1:39:40.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we talk about it from time to time; Dialogue: Marked=0,1:39:42.20,1:39:43.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this is strange stuff. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:39:45.36,1:39:48.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Did I tell you about my friend, Bob Leeds? Dialogue: Marked=0,1:39:49.32,1:39:52.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have a young... I have an older friend named Bob Leeds. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:39:52.18,1:39:55.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's a big shot in the motion picture industry. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:39:56.69,1:39:58.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, that's a long story. But, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:40:00.83,1:40:04.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there's two parts to this story, and it's very long; it's like another long one. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:40:04.74,1:40:07.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, anyway, Bob Leeds... Dialogue: Marked=0,1:40:09.03,1:40:10.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'll tell you the short version. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:40:11.13,1:40:14.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Bob Leeds is a good friend of mine, but he was a very Dialogue: Marked=0,1:40:15.10,1:40:20.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,well-placed Jewish guy in the motion picture business in Hollywood. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:40:21.31,1:40:24.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he and I were dear friends, very close friends. And Dialogue: Marked=0,1:40:24.69,1:40:29.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so, Bob called me one morning, one Saturday morning. He said, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:40:29.32,1:40:32.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"I'm going to take you out to breakfast. Let's go out to breakfast." I said, "Okay." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:40:32.45,1:40:35.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, he said, "I'm going to take you to any of the best... Dialogue: Marked=0,1:40:35.18,1:40:39.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,any place you want to go in San Diego, it's my treat." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:40:39.84,1:40:43.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so I said, "Great." So he said, "Any place you want to go, we'll go." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:40:43.46,1:40:46.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I said, "Okay." So he comes by and picks me up, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:40:47.16,1:40:50.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and... God I love Bob. Bob was great. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:40:51.46,1:40:55.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, so I said, "I want to go to... " Dialogue: Marked=0,1:40:56.47,1:41:00.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Oh, what was the name of the town, just north of San Diego? Dialogue: Marked=0,1:41:00.99,1:41:05.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a little Mexican town, north of San Diego. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:41:06.03,1:41:09.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I can't remember the name right now, I'll remember it in a minute. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:41:10.25,1:41:14.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it's in a little dippy, little nothing town, north of... Dialogue: Marked=0,1:41:14.27,1:41:19.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said, "No, what I had in mind was going into downtown San Diego, to some really nice place." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:41:20.13,1:41:23.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I said to him, I said, "You said I could go wherever I want to go." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:41:24.41,1:41:25.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He said, "That's right." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:41:25.72,1:41:31.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I said, "Well, that's where I want to go, to this little dippy little town, north of here." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:41:31.69,1:41:33.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he says, "There's nothing there." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:41:33.74,1:41:35.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I said, "That's where I want to go." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:41:36.44,1:41:38.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He said, "Okay, so we go there, then." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:41:38.85,1:41:43.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we get on the freeway, it's about a twenty minute drive, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:41:43.72,1:41:47.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so as we're driving, we were talking about stuff. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:41:47.58,1:41:53.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we got on the subject of people that we would love to see again. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:41:53.26,1:41:56.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,People we've known in the past that we'd like to see again. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:41:57.04,1:42:01.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I was telling him some couple people I would love to see in my life again Dialogue: Marked=0,1:42:02.06,1:42:03.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I've lost track of. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:42:05.19,1:42:08.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then he was telling me, he said, "Well, there's two people that fit that for me." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:42:08.77,1:42:18.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He said, "There's an old Native American Indian chief, Native American Indian, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:42:19.65,1:42:23.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I grew up knowing, and he was like my second father." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:42:23.13,1:42:25.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said, "I loved him, and I just . . . Dialogue: Marked=0,1:42:25.65,1:42:31.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would give anything in the world if I could see him again, the family again. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:42:31.20,1:42:34.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't even know if he's alive." And he said, "The people that Dialogue: Marked=0,1:42:34.75,1:42:38.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,knew him and knew me, I've asked them. And they don't even know where he went. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:42:39.26,1:42:40.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's gone, nobody knows." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:42:41.27,1:42:44.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said, "That's the one man I would really like to see, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:42:44.27,1:42:48.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that old Native American Indian and his family." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:42:48.93,1:42:53.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said, "And the other guy was a guy I went to school with and grew up with. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:42:53.41,1:42:55.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He became a Mormon, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:42:55.93,1:43:03.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he became very wealthy, he's a real estate developer, construction." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:43:03.62,1:43:08.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said, "But I've lost track of him, and he was one of my dearest friends in my life. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:43:08.80,1:43:13.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I've lost him, too. I don't know where he went. Nobody that knew him knows, either. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:43:14.09,1:43:15.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So those are two people I'd like to see." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:43:15.98,1:43:18.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so we were talking about other things. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:43:19.16,1:43:24.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we get off the freeway, in this little Mickey Mouse town, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:43:25.10,1:43:29.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we're driving through the city, and there's no place to eat, except IHOP... Dialogue: Marked=0,1:43:30.63,1:43:34.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,International House of Pancakes. Well they're everywhere. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:43:34.61,1:43:37.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so, I said, "Oh, there's an IHOP. Let's go there. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:43:37.72,1:43:39.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's where I want to go." And he says, "Jordan, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:43:40.47,1:43:43.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was going to take you to a nice restaurant in San Diego, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:43:43.18,1:43:47.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you come up to this little town, to go to an IHOP?" Dialogue: Marked=0,1:43:47.89,1:43:49.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I said, "That's where I want to go. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:43:50.03,1:43:52.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Come on, you say I can go, that's where I want to go." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:43:52.88,1:43:54.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He said, "Okay, we'll go to IHOP." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:43:55.02,1:43:58.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we pull in and we park, and we go in, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:43:58.19,1:44:01.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and this place is crowded because it's the only place in town to eat, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:44:01.90,1:44:05.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and finally they seat us, and when we're sitting down, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:44:06.73,1:44:11.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he.. all of the sudden, his whole demeanor changed. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:44:12.07,1:44:15.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I saw something was very, very radically wrong with him. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:44:16.33,1:44:19.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I could tell it in his face, I could tell that something wrong. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:44:20.79,1:44:23.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I said, "What's going on, Bob? What's wrong?" Dialogue: Marked=0,1:44:23.99,1:44:26.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said, "There is the old man, right there, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:44:26.02,1:44:28.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and there's my friend, the contractor, right there. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:44:29.46,1:44:32.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Both of them. That's the old man, and there's my contractor friend." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:44:33.87,1:44:38.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Both of them." And he said to me, "I don't know how you do this, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:44:39.56,1:44:45.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but understand from this day forward, I believe you are somebody. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:44:46.55,1:44:47.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have never seen this. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:44:48.16,1:44:51.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I just got through telling you I wanted to see these two people, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:44:51.47,1:44:54.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and out of nowhere we come up here, and here they are. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:44:56.28,1:44:57.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So you've sold me. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:44:58.02,1:45:01.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't know who you are, or where you've come from, or what you're doing, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:45:01.47,1:45:03.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but there's something strange about you." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:45:04.79,1:45:08.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so {\i1}I{\i0} was amazed. And he, he had like tears in his eyes. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:45:08.31,1:45:11.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He got up, went over and sat with the old man, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:45:11.52,1:45:15.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then his buddy saw him, he goes over there, and Dialogue: Marked=0,1:45:15.14,1:45:17.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they're all sitting around the table talking.... Dialogue: Marked=0,1:45:18.32,1:45:22.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't know what's happening. I didn't know. I just wanted to go to IHOP. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:45:23.93,1:45:26.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- So...\N- That's a lovely story. That's a beautiful story... Dialogue: Marked=0,1:45:26.44,1:45:27.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Incredible.\N- ...beautiful story. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:45:27.93,1:45:30.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he had like tears in his eyes. He came back, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:45:30.45,1:45:33.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and as we were driving home, he said, "I don't know who you are, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:45:33.40,1:45:36.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I don't know how this happened. But as far as I'm concerned, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:45:38.15,1:45:40.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm never questioning anything again." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:45:40.38,1:45:43.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He said, "I've had so many strange experiences around you, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:45:43.76,1:45:48.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,strange stuff, but today, that was a... that took the cake today. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:45:49.25,1:45:53.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am totally... cannot believe what just happened today: Dialogue: Marked=0,1:45:53.98,1:45:56.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The two people in my life I have wanted to see, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:45:57.06,1:45:59.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you brought me up here to this little town, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:45:59.69,1:46:02.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,out of nowhere to an IHOP, and there they both were. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:46:03.87,1:46:04.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So {\i1}Wow{\i0}." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:46:05.51,1:46:08.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is the kind of stuff you wouldn't dare write that into a movie. You know... Dialogue: Marked=0,1:46:08.64,1:46:13.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I know. That's right. \N- You'd be thrown out, you know? You're thrown out as the... Dialogue: Marked=0,1:46:13.64,1:46:15.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yeah, Bob Leeds. \N- ...being unrealistic. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:46:15.58,1:46:17.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Bob Leeds. \N- Wonderful story. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:46:17.47,1:46:20.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- And, ah...\N- Thank you. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:46:21.80,1:46:23.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You said that... Dialogue: Marked=0,1:46:23.95,1:46:26.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There was something else I was going to tell you, but I can't remember. I... Dialogue: Marked=0,1:46:26.53,1:46:28.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's a whole bunch of things you were going to tell us. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:46:28.17,1:46:30.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Oh, yeah. About the reptilian stuff, too.\N- Just for the... Dialogue: Marked=0,1:46:33.31,1:46:35.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just for the benefit of the people Dialogue: Marked=0,1:46:36.63,1:46:39.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,watching this video here, we're all kind of getting a bit giddy, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:46:39.44,1:46:41.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it's past 3 o'clock in the morning here in central Europe. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:46:44.00,1:46:48.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- And, ah...\N- And see, I slept late, so I'm full of life right now. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:46:48.01,1:46:49.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, see, Jordan's doing fine. He's on the west coast so he's fine. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:46:49.63,1:46:51.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, I'm doing fine, I'm on a roll, so... Dialogue: Marked=0,1:46:53.43,1:46:55.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He don't have any time, he's just about ready for lunch. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:46:57.60,1:47:01.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, you said that you wanted to tell us some more reptilian stories, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:47:01.02,1:47:05.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and one of them is a staggering one which you did tell in your September 2009 interview, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:47:06.53,1:47:09.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- and you said you had more, and...\N- Oh, yeah. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:47:09.07,1:47:14.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,...these are significant, in my own opinion, because Dialogue: Marked=0,1:47:14.68,1:47:17.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of what you yourself said in the September interview Dialogue: Marked=0,1:47:17.66,1:47:22.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that it's actually quite important to rescue David Icke from being Dialogue: Marked=0,1:47:22.84,1:47:26.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lampooned as the only person who's, quote, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:47:26.36,1:47:28.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,inventing all these stories about reptilians, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:47:28.47,1:47:30.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you {\i1}know{\i0} that these are not inventions. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:47:30.77,1:47:32.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you have heard many of these stories. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:47:32.94,1:47:37.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've heard these stories as far back as 1959. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:47:37.33,1:47:39.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you even bought some of the stories to his attention. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:47:39.50,1:47:43.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's right. I brought some of these actual stories to his attention, yes. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:47:43.78,1:47:46.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he was very courageous in coming forth very publicly... Dialogue: Marked=0,1:47:46.60,1:47:48.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- - I know.\N- ...to make this into a... Dialogue: Marked=0,1:47:48.98,1:47:51.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think I even said that. I said that on the stage up Dialogue: Marked=0,1:47:51.95,1:47:55.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in San Jose, when David was speaking and I was, too, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:47:55.42,1:47:59.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at a conference, and at the end of the conference there was a Dialogue: Marked=0,1:47:59.23,1:48:03.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,question and answer, in which David was on the stage, and I was, too. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:48:03.96,1:48:06.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I said at that conference, I said, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:48:07.15,1:48:12.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"I have my... I am totally committed to the fact that there are Dialogue: Marked=0,1:48:12.57,1:48:17.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,reptile aliens here on the Earth. Of that there is no doubt in my mind. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:48:18.16,1:48:20.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it's not because David Icke is saying so. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:48:21.08,1:48:25.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've known this long before David Icke ever came into the picture. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:48:25.71,1:48:29.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Many years ago, I have had many different stories told to me, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:48:29.96,1:48:33.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by very powerful people, people who are well grounded, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:48:33.80,1:48:36.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,highly intelligent, well respected people Dialogue: Marked=0,1:48:36.95,1:48:39.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,over the years have told me of their personal, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:48:39.96,1:48:42.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one-on-one encounters with reptile aliens. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:48:43.29,1:48:45.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have to believe when that many people, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:48:46.03,1:48:49.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that well-grounded intelligent people Dialogue: Marked=0,1:48:49.53,1:48:53.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tell me things -- like airline pilots, bankers, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:48:53.48,1:48:56.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,real estate executives -- who are telling me their personal, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:48:57.15,1:49:00.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one-on-one experience with alien, reptile aliens, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:49:00.68,1:49:03.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have to assume there must be something to it." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:49:03.99,1:49:07.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, that's very good of you to publicly take some of the pressure off David, because... Dialogue: Marked=0,1:49:07.41,1:49:11.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yeah. \N- ...David has been ridiculed for this, so Dialogue: Marked=0,1:49:12.06,1:49:13.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,let's {\i1}all{\i0} be ridiculed for this... Dialogue: Marked=0,1:49:13.48,1:49:15.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yeah, yeah. \N- ...and maybe more people will come forward with their stories. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:49:15.88,1:49:17.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Because...\N- There's no doubt in my mind that they are here. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:49:17.48,1:49:20.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because it's one of the most important stories on this planet right now, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:49:20.30,1:49:23.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and people need to know whatever the truth is. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:49:24.13,1:49:28.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,People need to know. And I'd love you to tell some more stories, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:49:28.86,1:49:31.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- which you believe are authentic... \N- Yes. \N- ...that have been Dialogue: Marked=0,1:49:31.67,1:49:34.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,reported to you, to add to the chronicles. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:49:34.76,1:49:38.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was doing a radio show, I was being interviewed Dialogue: Marked=0,1:49:39.01,1:49:43.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the Lou Epton show, in Las Vegas, many years ago; Dialogue: Marked=0,1:49:44.02,1:49:46.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,quite a few years, I'm thinking, maybe '89? Dialogue: Marked=0,1:49:48.32,1:49:51.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think it was '89. Or '88. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:49:52.37,1:49:55.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we're talking quite a few years ago. And Dialogue: Marked=0,1:49:55.35,1:49:59.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lou Epton at that time... dear, dear friend, Lou Epton. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:50:00.04,1:50:03.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I love him dearly, he was a very, very wonderful man. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:50:03.05,1:50:05.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's still with us; he's in Las Vegas, retired. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:50:06.03,1:50:12.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But he had a major talk show in Las Vegas, during the morning, morning talk show. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:50:12.40,1:50:16.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I had one at night, a nighttime talk show. But Dialogue: Marked=0,1:50:16.61,1:50:23.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lou had... but I was in Los Angeles, and Lou called me to do an interview. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:50:23.85,1:50:28.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it was a two-hours show. And... back in '88, I think it was. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:50:28.76,1:50:35.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But anyway, in the process, I brought up the subject of the reptile aliens. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:50:36.78,1:50:41.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And my belief about the reptile aliens and what the ancient peoples of the ancient world, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:50:41.44,1:50:46.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,-- the Babylonians, the Sumerians, the Phoenician Canaanites, the Egyptians, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:50:47.11,1:50:52.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,especially the Sumerians -- all the ancient peoples of the world talked about the reptile aliens. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:50:53.42,1:50:56.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so, I just brought that up in passing, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:50:57.29,1:51:01.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that I think there are reptile aliens here. I've heard to many stories, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:51:01.40,1:51:05.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then I told some of those stories that I had heard. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:51:06.53,1:51:12.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, after the program, I got a phone call from a guy who Dialogue: Marked=0,1:51:13.65,1:51:19.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,later on I had found out is an extremely wealthy businessman in Las Vegas. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:51:20.08,1:51:23.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He buys and sells hotels and commercial properties in Vegas, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:51:23.99,1:51:26.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he was {\i1}the{\i0} biggest there. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:51:26.99,1:51:32.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said to me, he said, "Jordan, we listen to Lou Epton, we love Lou Epton, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:51:32.97,1:51:38.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so in the office in the mornings we listen to Lou Epton on the show." And he says, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:51:39.30,1:51:42.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"But this morning, when you came on, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:51:43.08,1:51:47.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we started... we got so interested in listening to you that Dialogue: Marked=0,1:51:47.54,1:51:50.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everybody just kind of quit work for a little bit and was listening to you." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:51:51.24,1:51:55.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he says, "And when you mentioned the reptile aliens, it shocked us." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:51:56.58,1:52:02.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said, "I'm a Christian, and I have five men who work for me in my office, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:52:02.43,1:52:06.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they're Christians, and they all belong to the same church. We all go to the same church, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:52:07.59,1:52:12.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and all six of us are in the office, and we were hearing you today." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:52:13.63,1:52:18.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said, "When you mentioned reptile aliens, I had to call you and tell you. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:52:19.56,1:52:23.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We're Christians. But every year, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:52:23.57,1:52:26.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we go somewhere in the world on vacation, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:52:26.96,1:52:28.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and my company pays for everything." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:52:29.27,1:52:35.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he says, "So I take all five families, all six families go together on a vacation somewhere. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:52:36.33,1:52:41.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he says then, "Last year..." Now, this was like in '88, so he's talking about '87. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:52:41.68,1:52:46.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said, "Last year, we decided to go camping for a couple of weeks in Colorado." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:52:47.99,1:52:51.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he says, "We were up in the mountains and we broke camp one morning, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:52:52.69,1:52:55.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we walked up to the top of this mountain. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:52:55.58,1:52:59.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We were almost there anyway, at camp, and then the next morning when we broke camp, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:52:59.79,1:53:04.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we walked up to the top of the mountain to look over the lay of the land." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:53:04.76,1:53:09.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he says, "Out in the valley, we could see that there had been a, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:53:09.90,1:53:15.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an area that had been cleared away. It was like a round area that had been cleared away. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:53:16.03,1:53:20.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there was a circle of people out there, and they were all wearing robes, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:53:20.96,1:53:27.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they were all holding hands, and swaying back and forth, singing and chanting. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:53:27.83,1:53:29.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You could barely hear them." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:53:29.70,1:53:31.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But he said, "But it was very quiet where we were. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:53:31.85,1:53:34.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We could see that there was some kind of a ritual, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:53:35.28,1:53:40.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dancing or swaying back and forth in a circle. They were all holding hands. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:53:40.41,1:53:45.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there was obviously somebody in the middle, like a priest or something in the middle." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:53:45.77,1:53:48.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said, "This was out in the middle of nowhere, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:53:49.84,1:53:52.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that these people are out here with this thing that they're doing." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:53:53.24,1:53:56.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said, "We're up here in the mountains looking down on them." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:53:58.30,1:54:01.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said, "While we were standing there looking at them, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:54:02.03,1:54:08.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all of the sudden, a second figure popped up out of nowhere, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:54:08.67,1:54:11.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it was bigger than the man that was in the middle. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:54:11.91,1:54:16.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's in the middle too, but it's much bigger. And it pointed up at us." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:54:17.69,1:54:21.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said, "And all the singing stopped, everybody stopped and pointed." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:54:22.64,1:54:24.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said, "We knew we'd been had." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:54:25.56,1:54:28.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said, "We didn't know what was going on, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:54:28.38,1:54:30.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but whatever it was, it just popped in out of nowhere, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:54:31.05,1:54:34.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pointed up at us, and everybody is now pointing at us." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:54:34.53,1:54:36.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said, "So we figured we'd better just get out of here." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:54:37.50,1:54:41.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said, "When we turned around, it was standing behind us. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:54:41.60,1:54:46.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That thing which was down there, was already behind us. That's how quick it moved." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:54:47.34,1:54:52.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He said, "When we turned around to run, there was a reptile alien standing behind us." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:54:53.37,1:54:58.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He said, "This thing was at least seven to seven-and-a-half foot, to maybe eight-foot tall, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:54:58.42,1:55:03.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,had a reptile male man's head, but it was a reptile head. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:55:04.50,1:55:09.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was very muscular, looked like a human body, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:55:09.61,1:55:14.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the ordinary of a human body, but a reptile body, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:55:15.49,1:55:20.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,extremely muscular." And he said, "And it was looking at us." And he said, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:55:20.63,1:55:25.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"It cast some kind of a spell on us, so that the children Dialogue: Marked=0,1:55:25.27,1:55:30.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the women, no one could move. We were like frozen." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:55:31.06,1:55:35.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said, "And even... nobody could say anything. Nobody could Dialogue: Marked=0,1:55:35.36,1:55:37.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cry, nobody could run, nobody could do anything." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:55:38.01,1:55:43.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said, "We were staring at it, and it was looking at us, but it had control over us. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:55:44.31,1:55:48.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It had locked us so that we couldn't move, we couldn't scream, we couldn't do anything." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:55:49.25,1:55:52.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said, "And this thing was gazing at all of us, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:55:52.28,1:55:54.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,looking at the children, looking at the women." He said, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:55:54.97,1:56:00.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"This reptile alien." And he says, "We are just Christians, in a church. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:56:02.20,1:56:06.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But we saw a reptile alien. This thing was not of this world." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:56:07.58,1:56:11.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said, "This thing was looking at all of us." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:56:11.52,1:56:16.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then he said, "It looked at the men, and the look he gave us, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:56:17.08,1:56:20.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we understood. He didn't say anything, but we knew. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:56:20.70,1:56:23.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He was saying, {\i1}I'm going to leave you alone.{\i0} Dialogue: Marked=0,1:56:24.81,1:56:27.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}But when I leave here, you'd better get out of here.{\i0}" Dialogue: Marked=0,1:56:28.19,1:56:34.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said, "The alien walked over like he was leaving, {\i1}flicht{\i0}, he was gone. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:56:35.80,1:56:39.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just like that, he was gone." And he said, "When he was gone, the moment he was gone, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:56:40.02,1:56:44.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everyone came back to life. And the babies were screaming, the women were yelling, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:56:44.07,1:56:47.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,screaming; everybody came back to life, instantly." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:56:47.63,1:56:52.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he says, "We ran like, like we were totally out of our minds, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:56:52.10,1:56:56.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,running back to the cars, we ran down the hill, got in the cars, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:56:57.25,1:56:59.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the women were screaming, the children were yelling." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:56:59.98,1:57:01.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he says, "And we drove back." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:57:02.02,1:57:05.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he says, "It was the most incredible, horrible experience." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:57:06.91,1:57:12.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he says, "All the guys in my office will tell you: we saw a reptile alien in Colorado. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:57:13.59,1:57:16.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, when you're talking about..." He says, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:57:16.21,1:57:19.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"So, when your'e talking about reptile aliens and the ancient world, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:57:19.78,1:57:25.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I got news for you: there's one we know for sure, in Colorado. We saw him." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:57:26.74,1:57:33.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said, "This thing ran back, and it went so fast, it was just, {\i1}snap{\i0}, gone. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:57:34.34,1:57:36.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But that's how fast it came up behind us. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:57:37.47,1:57:40.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We knew that we'd been spotted, we turned around, and it was too late: Dialogue: Marked=0,1:57:41.05,1:57:42.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's already standing here." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:57:44.55,1:57:49.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he says, "So, when I hear tales now about people who have seen reptile aliens, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:57:49.91,1:57:51.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I got to tell you, there's six families here, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:57:52.15,1:57:55.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we all belong to the same church, and I will guarantee you, we saw one. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:57:56.31,1:57:57.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can bet on it." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:57:58.51,1:58:04.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So... and this is the... and I found out, because I started asking questions Dialogue: Marked=0,1:58:04.57,1:58:06.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when I was in Vegas about this man and his company, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:58:07.17,1:58:09.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and yes, he is a very wealthy man, and a very, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:58:10.61,1:58:14.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very big company, well known in Las Vegas for buying and selling the hotels, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:58:15.45,1:58:17.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and big, you know, big properties. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:58:18.42,1:58:21.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said, "Yeah, I'm just telling you what happened to us." Dialogue: Marked=0,1:58:22.33,1:58:26.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, ah, my suspicion which may well be yours as well... Dialogue: Marked=0,1:58:26.15,1:58:26.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Say it again? Dialogue: Marked=0,1:58:26.86,1:58:30.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My suspicion, and it may well be yours as well, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:58:30.18,1:58:32.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is that for every person who comes forward and reports a story, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:58:32.77,1:58:34.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there are a hundred others who don't. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:58:34.30,1:58:36.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Oh, I... probably right. You're probably right. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:58:37.31,1:58:39.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There may be a thousand others who don't, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:58:39.39,1:58:42.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because who is going to come forward publicly and say a story like that? Dialogue: Marked=0,1:58:43.08,1:58:44.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Not, Not many.\N- Yeah. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:58:44.53,1:58:49.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And one of the reasons, of course, why I want to encourage you to... Dialogue: Marked=0,1:58:49.93,1:58:52.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,why I have been supporting you in coming forward to tell these stories, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:58:52.59,1:58:56.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is not only to support David Icke, but it's to support other people too, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:58:56.57,1:58:58.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who have had these experiences. Because, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:58:58.78,1:59:05.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I suspect that they are fairly wide-spread, and {\i1}nobody{\i0} wants to talk about it. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:59:05.55,1:59:07.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Well, you're right. \N- That's my guess. That's my guess. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:59:09.80,1:59:15.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Did you ever talk to Dr. Roger Leir about his case up in Bakersfield? Dialogue: Marked=0,1:59:17.44,1:59:19.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't believe so. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:59:20.19,1:59:21.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- I know Roger Leir... \N- Yeah. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:59:21.76,1:59:22.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,...and he's a very good man. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:59:22.91,1:59:25.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't think I know about the Bakersfield incident. Tell me about it. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:59:25.84,1:59:29.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, I'm just trying to remember the story basically. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:59:30.53,1:59:33.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If he were here, he would give you the real dope on it, but Dialogue: Marked=0,1:59:33.70,1:59:39.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm just remembering the basic story, is that there was a guy up in, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:59:39.92,1:59:45.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,up in Bakersfield who is a fire investigator. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:59:45.66,1:59:48.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's a fireman investigator for the Fire Department. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:59:49.10,1:59:53.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he has been having reptile aliens coming into his bedroom. Dialogue: Marked=0,1:59:55.24,1:59:59.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Him and his wife have had reptile aliens, he says, Dialogue: Marked=0,1:59:59.75,2:00:02.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were coming into his bedroom. They didn't harm him, Dialogue: Marked=0,2:00:02.54,2:00:06.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but he said, he was telling Dr. Leir... Because he called Roger Leir, Dialogue: Marked=0,2:00:06.62,2:00:12.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because Roger is noted for his work with aliens and, ah... Dialogue: Marked=0,2:00:13.02,2:00:14.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Implants. \N- ...implants. Dialogue: Marked=0,2:00:16.12,2:00:19.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And so Roger went up to see him, and this is... this guy's with the Fire Department, Dialogue: Marked=0,2:00:19.86,2:00:23.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as an investigator, arson investigator, for the Fire Department. Dialogue: Marked=0,2:00:24.43,2:00:26.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said that the guy was saying that Dialogue: Marked=0,2:00:26.71,2:00:29.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at night, him and his wife are in bed, and the wall, Dialogue: Marked=0,2:00:30.40,2:00:34.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,facing them, became like water, and became... looked like water, Dialogue: Marked=0,2:00:35.53,2:00:37.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and reptile aliens walked through. Dialogue: Marked=0,2:00:38.75,2:00:42.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And when they came through, then the wall became back into a wall again. Dialogue: Marked=0,2:00:42.75,2:00:45.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said, then they stood there looking at him Dialogue: Marked=0,2:00:45.18,2:00:47.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and walking around the room, and he said, "We were so Dialogue: Marked=0,2:00:48.16,2:00:52.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,frightened out of our wits, we're just watching these reptile aliens walking Dialogue: Marked=0,2:00:52.42,2:00:53.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,around in the bedroom." Dialogue: Marked=0,2:00:53.89,2:00:56.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said, "Then we feel this strange feeling again, and the Dialogue: Marked=0,2:00:57.00,2:00:59.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wall becomes like a water." Dialogue: Marked=0,2:01:00.08,2:01:03.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think it's interesting that that's the way, you know, what is it, Dialogue: Marked=0,2:01:03.26,2:01:05.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,{\i1}Star Trek{\i0}, or whatever it is, Dialogue: Marked=0,2:01:05.58,2:01:07.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the wall looked like water. Dialogue: Marked=0,2:01:07.45,2:01:10.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well this is long time ago, this guy was talking. This was a long time ago. Dialogue: Marked=0,2:01:13.28,2:01:15.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said, "The aliens will walk back through again." Dialogue: Marked=0,2:01:17.83,2:01:28.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, he said, "So, what they decided to do was they got a towel, large big towels, Dialogue: Marked=0,2:01:28.47,2:01:30.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which were the same color as the carpet. Dialogue: Marked=0,2:01:31.51,2:01:36.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they -- and I'm just trying to remember all of this from the experience -- Dialogue: Marked=0,2:01:36.94,2:01:40.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but they glued on the back, or taped on the back Dialogue: Marked=0,2:01:41.04,2:01:45.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,aluminum foil, about six or eight sheets of aluminum foil, Dialogue: Marked=0,2:01:45.60,2:01:47.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,over and over on top of each other, Dialogue: Marked=0,2:01:47.87,2:01:50.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and taped them on the towel then laid it back over; Dialogue: Marked=0,2:01:51.34,2:01:55.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so the idea was that anything coming through that wall will not Dialogue: Marked=0,2:01:55.13,2:01:57.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,see the towel, because it's the same color as the floor, Dialogue: Marked=0,2:01:58.24,2:02:01.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and will walk, and pressure will be on the aluminum foil, Dialogue: Marked=0,2:02:02.38,2:02:04.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to prove that there was something in that room. Dialogue: Marked=0,2:02:05.31,2:02:07.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said, "And sure enough, these things come back, Dialogue: Marked=0,2:02:07.80,2:02:10.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and a few days later they came back and walked through, Dialogue: Marked=0,2:02:11.34,2:02:15.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and walked around, and then looked at him and her in the bed, Dialogue: Marked=0,2:02:15.55,2:02:18.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then walked back over, and walked back through the wall again." Dialogue: Marked=0,2:02:19.39,2:02:24.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said, "I've got 'em. They stepped on the carpet, on the towel." Dialogue: Marked=0,2:02:24.81,2:02:27.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said, "Yeah." And he'd pick it up, and you could see Dialogue: Marked=0,2:02:27.68,2:02:30.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the imprint of the foot of the three... Dialogue: Marked=0,2:02:31.19,2:02:34.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think he said there was like three fingers on the foot. Dialogue: Marked=0,2:02:35.24,2:02:42.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And yet there was... a piece of the nail was caught in the carpet, Dialogue: Marked=0,2:02:43.72,2:02:46.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they took that piece of nail, and they called Dr. Leir, Dialogue: Marked=0,2:02:47.18,2:02:54.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and showed it to him. And they've had that little piece of a nail sent to, Dialogue: Marked=0,2:02:55.54,2:02:58.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't know, Los Alamos, or some one of those big Dialogue: Marked=0,2:02:58.73,2:03:01.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,research laboratories, government research labs? Dialogue: Marked=0,2:03:01.93,2:03:06.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they said that this was... it was still alive. Dialogue: Marked=0,2:03:08.10,2:03:12.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was still living, it was a living tissue, and it was still alive, Dialogue: Marked=0,2:03:13.20,2:03:15.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that it seemed to be growing. Dialogue: Marked=0,2:03:16.28,2:03:19.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When they got it, as opposed to where it was now, Dialogue: Marked=0,2:03:19.31,2:03:22.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's grown in length, so it seems to be growing, even though it's, Dialogue: Marked=0,2:03:23.40,2:03:26.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's not connected to the body, it's still growing. Dialogue: Marked=0,2:03:26.92,2:03:34.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And... so that's just one more story, about reptile aliens. Dialogue: Marked=0,2:03:35.91,2:03:38.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Did they get any analysis of what this... Dialogue: Marked=0,2:03:39.44,2:03:41.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Was this in the days of DNA tests, when they could... Dialogue: Marked=0,2:03:41.97,2:03:48.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, yeah, you know what? I... He was just telling me this, off the cuff you know, and Dialogue: Marked=0,2:03:48.44,2:03:51.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he didn't go into much, because I guess we were just talking about reptile aliens and he said, Dialogue: Marked=0,2:03:51.84,2:03:55.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Well, you know, I'm just having some Dialogue: Marked=0,2:03:55.91,2:03:59.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,investigation of something that's going on right now up in Bakersfield." Dialogue: Marked=0,2:04:00.13,2:04:05.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But they did get a footprint on the aluminum foil, Dialogue: Marked=0,2:04:05.74,2:04:10.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to show that there was something came through the wall, whatever it was. So... Dialogue: Marked=0,2:04:10.80,2:04:13.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So these are... yeah. You're just confirming that... Dialogue: Marked=0,2:04:13.82,2:04:15.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Yeah.\N- ...these aren't apparitions. Dialogue: Marked=0,2:04:15.10,2:04:17.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah. These apparitions actually have weight. Dialogue: Marked=0,2:04:18.03,2:04:19.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They have rate, yeah. They have weight. Dialogue: Marked=0,2:04:19.62,2:04:21.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- They're very physical.\N- Because they came through the wall, Dialogue: Marked=0,2:04:21.76,2:04:25.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and their imprint is on the aluminum foil. Dialogue: Marked=0,2:04:25.57,2:04:28.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah. And they have some kind of interdimensional capability.\N Dialogue: Marked=0,2:04:28.23,2:04:30.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Exactly. They have interdimensional capability. Dialogue: Marked=0,2:04:30.61,2:04:33.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They come through, and walk back in, too. Dialogue: Marked=0,2:04:33.49,2:04:38.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You may remember in the Project Camelot interview with you in September 2009, Dialogue: Marked=0,2:04:38.73,2:04:42.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I believe I shared the story with you that was told to me by Barbara Lamb, Dialogue: Marked=0,2:04:43.45,2:04:45.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- and Barbara Lamb is...\N- I know Barbara well. Dialogue: Marked=0,2:04:45.92,2:04:47.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- ...is a very lovely lady...\N- Yeah, very. Dialogue: Marked=0,2:04:47.72,2:04:51.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,...who is a counselor and a supporter to Dialogue: Marked=0,2:04:51.88,2:04:55.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,many people who have had very strange ET experiences. Dialogue: Marked=0,2:04:55.38,2:05:00.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And she told me how a reptilian alien had Dialogue: Marked=0,2:05:00.50,2:05:03.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,appeared out of nowhere in her bedroom, Dialogue: Marked=0,2:05:03.11,2:05:07.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and had silently held her hand for two minutes before it disappears again... Dialogue: Marked=0,2:05:07.77,2:05:10.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,disappeared again, looking into her eyes, Dialogue: Marked=0,2:05:10.20,2:05:12.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,communicating with her that it was friendly, Dialogue: Marked=0,2:05:13.39,2:05:17.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it had been specially bred to interact with humans Dialogue: Marked=0,2:05:17.83,2:05:23.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to give them the message that not all reptilians were hostile and meant harm. Dialogue: Marked=0,2:05:23.88,2:05:28.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this was this being's purpose, and it communicated with Barbara in that way. Dialogue: Marked=0,2:05:28.16,2:05:28.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- And so...\N- Wow. Dialogue: Marked=0,2:05:29.38,2:05:31.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,...just to confuse the issue further, Dialogue: Marked=0,2:05:31.37,2:05:34.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I feel honor-bound to report that little story too, because Dialogue: Marked=0,2:05:34.66,2:05:37.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we mustn't let our prejudices get the worst of us. Dialogue: Marked=0,2:05:37.63,2:05:39.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No. You're right. Dialogue: Marked=0,2:05:39.57,2:05:44.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And with that little anecdote of my own -- or of Barbara's, let us say -- Dialogue: Marked=0,2:05:45.61,2:05:49.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm going to very gently close this down, because we're now at the end of our third hour of tape. Dialogue: Marked=0,2:05:50.19,2:05:54.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is quarter-to-four in the morning, even Jordan's getting tired; I'm exhausted. Dialogue: Marked=0,2:05:54.44,2:05:58.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We've, we both came back from the Vatican Dialogue: Marked=0,2:05:58.89,2:06:01.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- just a few days ago...\N- Yeah, we went to the Vatican. Dialogue: Marked=0,2:06:01.20,2:06:02.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,...and that's another story, Dialogue: Marked=0,2:06:02.64,2:06:05.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and poor Jordan doesn't even know if he's going to be able to get home or not, Dialogue: Marked=0,2:06:05.05,2:06:08.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- because we've got a volcano in Iceland that's doing it's thing...\N- That's right. Dialogue: Marked=0,2:06:08.34,2:06:11.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,...because the whole solar system is going into Dialogue: Marked=0,2:06:11.60,2:06:13.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- something or other that's activating the Earth.\N- Convulsions. Dialogue: Marked=0,2:06:13.75,2:06:16.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that's another story, too. So it's all happening around here. Dialogue: Marked=0,2:06:17.06,2:06:21.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And in the closing seconds of this tape, Jordan, I want to thank you Dialogue: Marked=0,2:06:21.17,2:06:23.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so much for putting all of this on record, because Dialogue: Marked=0,2:06:24.33,2:06:27.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we haven't been talking about the Illuminati and the New World Order this time, Dialogue: Marked=0,2:06:27.26,2:06:32.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but we've been talking about a different area which is possibly even more important... Dialogue: Marked=0,2:06:32.82,2:06:34.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Far more important. Dialogue: Marked=0,2:06:34.27,2:06:38.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- ...in terms of sketching out the big picture\N- Hm-mm. Dialogue: Marked=0,2:06:38.37,2:06:43.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- of which we here on planet Earth may be quite a small part.\N- Hm-mm. Dialogue: Marked=0,2:06:43.17,2:06:49.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And my own conviction is that you have certainly Dialogue: Marked=0,2:06:50.16,2:06:55.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,had an important role, here. Not only to reveal Dialogue: Marked=0,2:06:55.60,2:06:57.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,occult knowledge that has been kept secret from us, Dialogue: Marked=0,2:06:58.02,2:07:01.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but actually to be a communicator about all these subjects, because they're all connected. Dialogue: Marked=0,2:07:02.08,2:07:05.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- They're all connected and we have to understand it all.\N- Absolutely all connected. Yeah. Dialogue: Marked=0,2:07:05.40,2:07:08.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, we're at the closing seconds here. Dialogue: Marked=0,2:07:08.46,2:07:11.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I feel like I'm just about to be whisked off the stage, Dialogue: Marked=0,2:07:11.79,2:07:16.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- and I want to thank you again on behalf of the hundreds of thousands of...\N- Thank you. Dialogue: Marked=0,2:07:16.12,2:07:19.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,...people who will be watching this, so thank {\i1}you{\i0}, Jordan Maxwell. Dialogue: Marked=0,2:07:19.27,2:07:23.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you. Been fun. Dialogue: Marked=0,2:07:24.65,2:07:25.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's wild ride. Dialogue: Marked=0,2:07:26.32,2:07:27.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No doubt about that.