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wes_whitewolf 10-05-2008 09:30 PM

Re: Zeitgeist Addendum**must see**
 
It was once again an excellent piece and very well done. Glad they brought to light the Venus Project and their vision. Just wish we could get the rest of the world to watch it so they can pull their heads out of their asses and do away with this monitary system and the criminals behind it.
Can you imagine what the rest of the Universe thinks of us?:tears:
I can see my star brothers and sisters shaking their heads in disgust.:lmfao:

Chris Parson 10-05-2008 09:30 PM

Re: New Zeitgeist film out today.
 
he even said he thought panspermia was likely in cosmos. that comets could very likely be seeding life all over the universe.

he seems too informed to be as naive as he pretended to be.

Colin 10-05-2008 09:30 PM

Re: Zeitgeist addendum!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Parson (Post 39639)
rather than moving all the zeitgeist threads into one that doesn't even say zeitgeist in the thread title, why not at least change that thread title to say zeitgeist so we don't get a new thread every hour that gets moved

Ummmm..the title does say Zeitgeist Addendum

Chris Parson 10-05-2008 09:32 PM

Re: Zeitgeist addendum!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Colin L Falcon (Post 39697)
Ummmm..the title does say Zeitgeist Addendum

didn't say that when i wrote that.

Zelphael 10-05-2008 09:33 PM

Re: New Zeitgeist film out today.
 
Guys, please keep this on topic, about the film directly.

My opinion:
No other film has made me cry so many times, and I can't remember the last time I cried.

This is the answer. This is the way forward. The way that we can live abundantly and in harmony, and practically. This isn't airy fairy new age nonense - this is the plan, the things we can start doing individually to make the change.

Chris Parson 10-05-2008 09:34 PM

Re: New Zeitgeist film out today.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Parson (Post 38613)

listen to the smug arrogance in his tone

he sounds like reverend lovejoy

EYES WIDE OPEN 10-05-2008 09:34 PM

Re: New Zeitgeist film out today.
 
Apologies for going off topic. I said what I wanted. :)

wes_whitewolf 10-05-2008 09:37 PM

Re: Zeitgeist Addendum**must see**
 
Of course its always a wonderful thing when someone uses Bill Hicks' comedy to drive home a point.
Really miss Bill...along with George Carlin:lmfao:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSH6ofHbeUw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J10w3FuCwfQ

EYES WIDE OPEN 10-05-2008 09:37 PM

Re: New Zeitgeist film out today.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Parson (Post 39702)
listen to the smug arrogance in his tone

he sounds like reverend lovejoy


Quoting yourself? Change the record. Its getting repetative & boring. We both said our peice. No need to repeat yourself.
Stop being so negative. OK, I will say no more.

sunnyrap 10-05-2008 09:39 PM

Re: New Zeitgeist film out today.
 
Thought I might interject before anyone starts duking it out that Mercury is retrograde and Mars and Pluto are in aspects that make miscommunication and hasty words almost irresistable. Something to keep in mind if it seems someone is 'coming at you'. Energies and emotions are really overamped right now with all the events of the hour anyway. I've seen people over-reacting on just about every thread (and have been snapped at several times myself over comments I thought had zero reactivation value).

Chris Parson 10-05-2008 09:43 PM

Re: New Zeitgeist film out today.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zelphael (Post 39699)
Guys, please keep this on topic, about the film directly.

My opinion:
No other film has made me cry so many times, and I can't remember the last time I cried.

This is the answer. This is the way forward. The way that we can live abundantly and in harmony, and practically. This isn't airy fairy new age nonense - this is the plan, the things we can start doing individually to make the change.

great film no doubt. i have been aggressively promoting it all over my side of the internets

bennycog 10-05-2008 10:13 PM

Re: Zeitgeist Addendum**must see**
 
hey guys,

can we have a chat about how they were able to get this to the public. and how fantasticly it was made. without intervention by the shadows.

Sol 10-05-2008 11:14 PM

Re: New Zeitgeist film out today.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Luigis Mushroom (Post 38055)
I honestly felt like the first zeitgeist was government conspiracy for 12 year olds.

That was the idea. And i tell you, by my own experience, it's way hard to achieve.
Look at the all buzz that the film got from mainstream around the world. And how many millions views on google?! How many "awakenings" is it responsable for?

Innacuracies? Shure has! Like we all have, say or write.

peace

EpiphaMe 10-05-2008 11:50 PM

Re: New Zeitgeist film out today.
 
I, for one, will admit that I was ignorant of the fractional reserve banking system and had to backtrack a few times to take notes for later review & comprehension.
Through the yrs I ran across bits & pcs but never had it portrayed in such a manner that is so easily understood.

And I've not yet read one critical word on this thread that negates the portrayal of the system ! To me, this film was revolutionary in its presentation and we simply must be the ones to endure the transition, however ugly it may be!

In the light of the present global economic crisis, it doesn't matter to me who put it out, nor what agenda might be behind it because the system has to GO... is responsible for the pain & suffering of the entire world. But I will say that it took a long time for this to be revealed, considering the pervasive use of the internet these days.

Thank you Chris Parson for letting your take on Sagan fall to the wayside, as 1) your opinion of someone is none of my business 2) it's not required in life to like everyone 3) ad hominems do tell of intention.

The 2nd half of the film gave the entire presentation its true value. Solution, vision, for without this, it's just another venting without direction.

Here we stand, quite possibly facing a very ugly revolution... but it has to be.

lotusflower 10-06-2008 01:20 AM

Highly Recommended--Watch Zeitgeist Addendum
 
Hello all,
I just finished watching Zeitgeist Addendum and feel a renewed sense of hope for our futures here on Earth. There can be NWO but not in the negative, slavery driven way intended by the Elite to control us but a global awakening of conciousness that all will benefit from. It is possile if we all stand together. The movie suggests ways of how to begin this positvie transformation. Please to all, watch the movie..It is a bit long but definitly worth it.


"Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery, none but ourselves can free our minds." Bob Marley


IT STARTS NOW

Reveling John 10-06-2008 01:28 AM

Re: Highly Recommended--Watch Zeitgeist Addendum
 
With a much lighter heart than I had a couple days ago, I concur.

This work (not really a documentary, more of an art piece) is one of the most awesome new media creations I've ever watched. It's about SOLUTIONS.

This can work. We can do this!

:thumb_yello:

Reveling John 10-06-2008 01:30 AM

Re: Highly Recommended--Watch Zeitgeist Addendum
 
Just in case, here's the link,
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...05277695921912

Great Love,
John

Reveling John 10-06-2008 01:33 AM

Re: Highly Recommended--Watch Zeitgeist Addendum
 
Here I have yet another post :naughty:

The film introduces this project, which I had never heard of. Now I want to work on the front lines, in whatever way possible.

The Venus Project

Peace of Mine 10-06-2008 03:16 AM

My Grandchildren were "Blown Away" with Jacques and Roxanne's Venus Project
 
Jacques Fresco, and Roxanne Meadows, who are featured in ZII, wrote the book: The Best That Money Can't Buy. They built a Model of their vision in Venus, Florida, near Okeechobee. [URL="www.thevenusproject.com"]

We took our grandchildren, 8 and 12 at the time, for a visit. Jacques sat us down in front of a model of his perfect world. He talked about organizing society to meet the needs of the people, for shelter and food and transportation, for education and recreation, time for family and community and travel. As he talked, Jacques illustrated by manipulating the robots and digging out the canals or showing a family sitting in front of a computer choosing and furnishing their home. Even the 8-year old was so enthralled he sat still and hung onto every word.

Roxanne then escorted us around the 25 acres where the domes they built themselves replicated the IA homes envisioned. It was easy to imagine everyday life with survival taken care of, with music, drama, art, or time to check out a kayak or a skateboard or a computer. It seemed so simple, why weren't we living this way now?

Our grandkids could discuss the ideas with depth and intelligence after spending two hours with Jacques and Roxanne. All the way home, we talked about how we could live in a world without the need for jobs and money and business and profits.

Now, my Granddaughter struggles to pay for insurance and fuel for her vehicle by working after school at Winn-Dixie. Tired to her toes, working for peanuts, does she dream radical dreams of a fair and sane future? Is she the generation that will Just Say No to Wage-Slavery?

Zeitgeist II makes it easy for me to stir the pot so that her discontent builds. Isn't it fun, creating this new world with delicious anticipation? This chaos signals that our time is at hand.

Operator 10-06-2008 03:49 AM

Re: Highly Recommended--Watch Zeitgeist Addendum
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Reveling John (Post 40062)
Here I have yet another post :naughty:

The film introduces this project, which I had never heard of. Now I want to work on the front lines, in whatever way possible.

The Venus Project

Yeah, me too ... would start there right tomorrow morning ...
Sadly, there is no contact page on the website ...

Maybe we should get inspired about starting something like this ourselves scattered all over the world.

Boy have I failed so far ... that's why I originally moved to this place almost 5 years ago. I started a few things
but not close to something like this. The feeling is there though and the inspiration too ...

man did this film awake me ! (on this front) :trumpet:

raulduke 10-06-2008 07:10 AM

Re: Zeitgeist Addendum**must see**
 
Just watched it last night. Useful information and suggestions indeed.

Did anyone see the trailer:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...eitgeist&hl=en

George Carlin: "...and eveyone's got a cell phone that makes pancakes, so they don't want to rock the boat"


Spot on.

George nails it again:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...it&vt=lf&hl=en

UsAndThem 10-06-2008 08:38 AM

Re: Zeitgeist Addendum**must see**
 
I love how everyone bashes the first zeitgeist for the start? Why is it false? What makes any religion factual, where are any facts indeed that are not stories or beliefs that disprove his findings which mind you are based on Jordan Maxwell and Acharya S research? What he says is very true, that it is one gigantic story. And in the newest one he solidifies this. His work is based on the research of Jordan Maxwell. I challenge anyone out there to research as much as this man has done. Everyone is very quick to write off things that are outside of there belief systems and ideas of what is reality, this movie is asking you to look outside of these pathetic illusions we believe to be true and WAKE UP!! Religion is the biggest tool of divide and conquer and prays on the weak minded. What Joseph presents on religion, and what Maxwell's research has shown is no more nonfactual than all religious belief structures and what they preach to be right! Religion is a massive tool in what they plan to achieve, and if you cannot get your head around that...........well then you have a long way to go. He may not be right in all aspects of the religious story, but who the hell is??? Not even religious scholars can agree on anything!!!! Hence all of the wars and bloodshed!

bennycog 10-06-2008 08:56 AM

Re: Zeitgeist Addendum**must see**
 
i am just trying to get my head around how this movie can actually be one of the most perfect i have seen that really would wake, well, everyone up who watches it.
now dont you think that these elite would have prior knoweledge of such a tool to wake up the masses. they did not interesect and still have not.
does this show that they are now dead in the water or they were never there at all?

swordsmith 10-06-2008 10:17 AM

Re: Zeitgeist Addendum**must see**
 
Just want to say I briefly met Peter Joseph ( Zeitgeist 1&2 creator) in London and found him to be a very sincere and even humble person. He took the time to talk with me and my daughter , we spoke about mind control, chemtrails etc, and what he was going to do next. He was a good listener , too.
I am thrilled with how he has worked out how to reach people where they live in his latest film, ie MONEY and the big lie behind it all.This could just work. And how incredibly timely, too!

It's a fantastic job and I think Zeitgeist 1 is a wonderful introduction for people who know nothing of the conspiracy against us, but are willing to take a peak behind the curtain at the string pullers.

I'm going to send this to all the people who thought I was talking bollocks.
I am grateful TPTB are taking the **** with this orchestrated money collapse, finally we may get some sheeps turning into peeps.

BTW, I also love Peter Joseph's voice as well as Carl's, kind of like a mental massage.Whats wrong with that?

elirien 10-06-2008 10:56 AM

Re: Zeitgeist Addendum**must see**
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by UsAndThem (Post 40368)
I love how everyone bashes the first zeitgeist for the start? Why is it false? What makes any religion factual, where are any facts indeed that are not stories or beliefs that disprove his findings which mind you are based on Jordan Maxwell and Acharya S research? What he says is very true, that it is one gigantic story. And in the newest one he solidifies this. His work is based on the research of Jordan Maxwell. I challenge anyone out there to research as much as this man has done. Everyone is very quick to write off things that are outside of there belief systems and ideas of what is reality, this movie is asking you to look outside of these pathetic illusions we believe to be true and WAKE UP!! Religion is the biggest tool of divide and conquer and prays on the weak minded. What Joseph presents on religion, and what Maxwell's research has shown is no more nonfactual than all religious belief structures and what they preach to be right! Religion is a massive tool in what they plan to achieve, and if you cannot get your head around that...........well then you have a long way to go. He may not be right in all aspects of the religious story, but who the hell is??? Not even religious scholars can agree on anything!!!! Hence all of the wars and bloodshed!

lumping religion all together into one cult is quite wrong factually. jordan maxwell has many deliberate errors which he refuses to correct (like the other persons who use his research like tsarion and icke). I'm not pro religion but pro fact.

I could direct you to some sites that have checked their evidence if you'd like and feel that you are ready.

Tuza 10-06-2008 10:58 AM

Re: Zeitgeist Addendum**must see**
 
I would appreciate your links elirien please. Thank you in advance.

swordsmith 10-06-2008 11:23 AM

Re: Zeitgeist Addendum**must see**
 
oh, and just wanted to say, the mode of highspeed travel mentioned by the venus project is apparently already in existence/use in the deep underground military bases according to Phil Schneider and others.
What would jet lag be like from 4000 mph travel ?

UsAndThem 10-06-2008 01:29 PM

Re: Zeitgeist Addendum**must see**
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by elirien (Post 40462)
lumping religion all together into one cult is quite wrong factually. jordan maxwell has many deliberate errors which he refuses to correct (like the other persons who use his research like tsarion and icke). I'm not pro religion but pro fact.

I could direct you to some sites that have checked their evidence if you'd like and feel that you are ready.

Yeh but what is fact to you? Like i say, what is fact or fiction? They are all just beliefs. See beyond the mistakes Maxwell makes, and the belief structures and holy books in all religious structures, it just confuses everyone. Maxwell may be wrong about some "facts", but that's not the point, the point is that religion has been used to brainwash society dude, not help.

Got to see the big picture, not these pathetic little factual games. This is what divides people!! Hence my original post. I never said it was a cult, i said it was a tool, a system to control, much like the monetary system we live in. Just another tool! Money divides people into classes, and religion divides people "spiritually" not that it is spiritual at all. I don't need to see the evidence, what is their evidence based on? The bible? What they were told in school? Geee sounds like everyone else. I have seen the Jordan Maxwell debunked links, I've seen them all. No need for the links thanks.

EYES WIDE OPEN 10-06-2008 01:46 PM

Re: Zeitgeist Addendum**must see**
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by UsAndThem (Post 40555)
Yeh but what is fact to you? Like i say, what is fact or fiction? They are all just beliefs. See beyond the mistakes Maxwell makes, and the belief structures and holy books in all religious structures, it just confuses everyone. Maxwell may be wrong about some "facts", but that's not the point, the point is that religion has been used to brainwash society dude, not help.

Got to see the big picture, not these pathetic little factual games. This is what divides people!! Hence my original post. I never said it was a cult, i said it was a tool, a system to control, much like the monetary system we live in. Just another tool! Money divides people into classes, and religion divides people "spiritually" not that it is spiritual at all. I don't need to see the evidence, what is their evidence based on? The bible? What they were told in school? Geee sounds like everyone else. I have seen the Jordan Maxwell debunked links, I've seen them all. No need for the links thanks.

YOU COULD HAVE SAID ALL THAT BY JUST POSTING :

"CANT HEAR YOU, FINGERS IN EARS"

Curse those pesky FACTS, always getting in the way of reality.

The burden of proof lays with the producer of Zeitgeist. If he wants to convince skeptics & change peoples minds, he is going to have to be accurate.
And before you get stuck into me, I LOVE both films but am not so blinkered as to ignore the errors in the first one.

Stephen 10-06-2008 03:40 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EYES WIDE OPEN (Post 39687)
carl had his faults, I am not disagreeing with you but I think you need to reconsider your view of him. It is terribly one sided.

And yes, he was inspiring & profound :

For small creatures such as we the vastness is bearable only through love.

Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were. But without it we go nowhere.

In order to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first create the universe.

Personally, I would be delighted if there were a life after death, especially if it permitted me to continue to learn about this world and others, if it gave me a chance to discover how history turns out.

Where we have strong emotions, we're liable to fool ourselves.

I agree pretty much...good post!
Yes, he had faults. We all do.
He also was a skeptic which in my opinion is healthy.
I 'believe' he saw the light later in life though on the fact of ETs and such.

BUT, What do *I* know? hehe! I am no expert. I am just Dood!

Sir-Chi 10-06-2008 05:36 PM

Zeitgeist 2 now online to watch
 
The first was excellent now the very timely "Zeitgeist 2" which happens to deeply go over the economic system along with much more.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...05277695921912

Hope my galactic brothers and sisters at this amazing forum get as much out of this as i did.

To a Rise in Consciousness
with much,
love, light and laughter
Sir-Chi:wink2:

Jenny 10-06-2008 05:39 PM

Re: Zeitgeist Addendum**must see**
 
,

Jenny

nestingwave 10-06-2008 07:14 PM

Re: Zeitgeist Addendum**must see**
 
I carefully watched both movies twice.

How timely!

As this huge fraud collapses people will really start to wake up fast. Some will manifest their me me my my mine selfishness and others will cooperate to help others. Eventually, the New Paradigm which is a growing vision in so many will become manifest. Meanwhile the old must die because it simply is not sustainable any longer.

It has been a zombification of total insanity and all of us have bought into that meme. We are now seeing the expected outcome of such selfish illusion.

I know many are panicing as they loose everything they cling to and have assumed was the meaning of their life. However, the old way is FINISHED FOREVER. The age of "for sale" is over permenantly.

This econimic melt down was suppose to be controlled and go down according to schedule but that was a miscalculation. The illuminati controllers are now fully EXPOSED and can no longer dupe the world.

They will be dismayed to see that do many people will cooperate and use teamwork to overcome the deprivation. You see, these selfish despots just assumed that eveyone was a greedhead like them. A tremendous miscalculation due to their tunnelvision and arrogance.
Yes, we are facing some years of chaos and turmoil but what we saw in at the end of Zeitgeiss II will no longer be hindered to rise up.

I think David Wilcock was right. The controllers are very scared and upset because THEY HAVE LOST and inwardly know it. Hoisted upon their own petard because in their assumptions did not take the human heart into consideration. Nor its valor, apprecaition and compassion. These are things which they simply cannot relate to and they are the undoing of those tyrants.

I also think David is correct that there will be no "nuclear war" because ETI has shown us several times that they will NOT allow that because they are the caregivers of Mother Earth and want us to wake up to the fact that we are too. When it comes to raping Mother Earth by splitting the atom to murder millions, this simply cannot be allowed because what happens here EFFECTS the entire Universe and other realms beyond our frequency. Such insanity is cedrtainly not the will of the peoples of this planet and the hand full of despots that would trash this planet in thier suicidal self destruction as their hatred lashes out in their dying moments, will not be allowed.

Many think ETI is just an onlooker. Contactees know better. ETI is VERY interested in our transformation out of this total insanity.

I thought it was interesting in Zeitgeiss II how clean energy alternatives were shown that didn't even include the biggest one of all, which is already waiting in the wings --- energy from the vacuum (Dr. Tom Bearden, John Bidini and many others.) FREE energy forever. ALL the free energy we could ever need.

The fact is, we ALREADY have the technology to accomplish what was shown and much more.

NO MORE MONEY. PERIOD. No need for it. When people are free to follow their biss for the good of all, there will be NO lack of motivation as the mind control programming has enculcated us to believe.

So, in the long run, this economic melt down is necessary and positive. No more banks? So what. Good riddance. No more politics? Excellent. No more "for sale?" No more STATE? Some simply cannot conceive of that because they are so brain washed. All these things are ... transformative.

This is the greatest leap in consciousness that can be imagined and is beyond imagination.

Peace be unto all,

nestingwave

md3inaustin 10-06-2008 08:53 PM

Re: New Zeitgeist film out today.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarahmay (Post 37971)
Hope they have fixed the inaccuracies, because mostly it was a powerful film except for the first part. (I have no problem being down on religion, but it just wasn't factual). Thanks for posting this!

Hi Sarahmay: What in whole or part was not factual? I'm looking for info.

Thanx,
~ md3inaustin

STicKY_EyEs 10-06-2008 08:59 PM

Re: Zeitgeist Addendum**must see**
 
WOW!!!!!:yikes: I JUST WATCH IT AND I AM TRULEY SPEECHLESS!!!!!!!
This movie is a true eye opener. I TRULEY DONT FEEL THE SAME.....:rm_robot:
People please pass the word about this movie please!!!!!


Peace and Love to ALL!!!!!

Sir-Chi 10-06-2008 09:09 PM

Re: Zeitgeist Addendum**must see**
 
I'm very happy this film finally came out. The first was awesome and i must have handed out at least a 100 copies.

Peter Joseph does an excellent job of giving everyone a spherical look at our reality from a micro to a macrocosmic view.

Zeitgeist films & the amazing interviews of Project Camelot are excellent examples of how easy it can be to effect the consciousness of many and uplift life.

Chris Everards films though on the darker side .... really gives a close look at who the secret societies really are but i feel the real key is to focus on a global ascension.

TO A Rise In Consciousness
with much,
love, light and laughter
Sir-Chi

Stephen 10-06-2008 11:11 PM

Re: Zeitgeist Addendum**must see**
 
Now watch this by Naomi Wolf:

YouTube Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XgkeTanCGI

This was a recent inteview on October 3rd.

I believe she has a good grasp on what is going on directly under our noses....

undetected 10-07-2008 02:04 AM

Re: Zeitgeist Addendum**must see**
 
Just watched it. The movie is brilliant. The mere fact that somebody put this together and managed to spread it among thousands of people in a few days is a great sign of the transformation already in progress.
[I wonder, do we have some hackers who could hijack some satellites and broadcast the movie on some mainstream TV channel? That would be fun, heh. Well, wishful thinking but anyway.]
I want to express thanks and respect to the makers of this movie. The timing is perfect too. Great job!

DJModer 10-07-2008 03:54 AM

Re: Zeitgeist Addendum**must see**
 
Does anybody know the people who made the Zeitgeist movies? They spend time to do research and to make these wonderful movies yet to give them away for free. I appreciate the work they do and would like to know how they are able to compile the latest financial information into movie and release it at the right time.

The project venus is very interesting and is very futuristic, but it seem to be difficult to implement without reeducating people to learn how to take care of each other. The new system will never operate properly using people from the current monetary system that are full of greed and laziness. I also want to know where do they get this idea from since it is very similar to what Alex Collier indirectly described.

To make this project a reality, people need to see a real example of a city. They will probably need to convince the oil companies and the corporate bankers to step down from their power and how could this be possible?

To make this possible, we need to make the money useless, most of the earth population will be wiped out and start over from the people with the new education system and philosophy. In addition, the zero-point energy technology needs to be revealed and introduced to make to VTOL aircraft a reality. This can be as evil as the NWO or is this a result of the NWO?.

RaKaR 10-07-2008 04:43 PM

Re: Zeitgeist Addendum**must see**
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by able (Post 37793)

Dear Able,

Thanks for the links.

I just watched 'Zeitgeist: Addendum', it is one of the most revealing experiences i have ever had.
I have the feeling - i would actually better say, i am convinced - it is The Line i have always been looking for in this physical Incarnation.

I have therefore taken the Decision, from now on, to invest all my Will and Strength to bring the Ideal of Zeitgeist as close to my daily Reality as possible.

No matter what happens further, i will not go back to the System i am now leaving behind. Definitely.

I would like to share this Choice with all the Comrades on this Forum.

Behold The Future, it is within You!

RaKaR
www.futureofmankind.co.uk


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