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Okay, enlighten me.

Why is New Age "bad" to sooo many people?
Why is it such a cause of division?

Why is trusting your intuition, caring about what you put in your body, being positive, spiritual healing and knowing your potential as a human considered by so many in this forum to be less than any other "belief" structure, including belief in ETs?

Isn't it like ALL beliefs...before KNOWING settles in? Isn't it a stepping stone? And if that's the case, why make people who are on that stone feel LESS than by mocking their beliefs?

Who are the teachers of New Age philosophy that we shouldn't be listening to lest our brains turn to "fluff"?

I am VERY capable of googling, and looking up the definitions, what I want here is your opinion.

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Many people who use the term "new age" use it as a generalisation because they do not know or have a clear definition of the whole subject.

Its silliness really, akin to calling all substances "drugs" thereby robbing the topic of its complexity and the topic of its vastness.

If people use this term with you then back away very slowly whilst maintaing eye contact, they are obviously new to the topic and dont know enough to refer to it with anything other then silly little generalisations.

I enjoy partaking in the consumption of magic mushrooms from time to time, therefore i must be a druggy :yikes:

Same thing different scenario, dont mind those people. they are there to annoy you :wink2:


And a quick definition ;

New Age (New Age Movement and New Age Spirituality) is a social collective phenomenon and a spiritual nature movement that seeks Universal Truth through the Oneness of Humanity. It combines aspects of spirituality, cosmology, esotericism, complementary and alternative medicine, various religious practices, and environmentalism. It is characterized by an eclectic and individual approach to spirituality with a general rejection of mainstream dogma and religion.

New Age refers to the coming Astrological Age of Aquarius. The New Age Movement first appeared in the late 19th and early 20th Centuries, gained momentum in the 1960s and 1970s, strengthened in the 1980s, and organized with the Harmonic Convergence in 1987. New Age practices and philosophies are found among many diverse individuals from around the world and range from atheism and monotheism to classical pantheism, including naturalistic pantheism or panentheism.[citation needed].

The New Age Movement includes elements of older spiritual and religious traditions combined with science, particularly Ecology, Environmentalism, Gaia Theory, and Psychology. New Age practices and philosophies sometimes draw inspiration from major world religions: Buddhism, Chinese Folk Religion, Christianity, Hinduism, Judaism, and Sufi Islam; with particularly strong influences from East Asian religions, Gnosticism, Indian religions, Neopaganism, New Thought, Universalism, and Western Esotericism.[1]

New Age Spirituality has led to a wide array of literature on the subject and an active niche market: books, New Age music, crafts, and services in alternative medicine are available at New Age stores, fairs, and festivals.[2][3][4][5]


Im proud to be a new ager if thats what it means.

[edit] Ive a very bad habit of missing the last line of every post :mfr_lol:

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I second that :thumb_yello:

peace
bananaman

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ill repost what i said when someone slgged off what i was saying as "new age"

Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnWdoe
To quote Kyle'

"your conscioussness (consciousness) is more important than your 3D vehicle.

Now this is honestly nothing more then new age conformity which is scary... Your body is in exact equal measurement to that of the mind, the mind cannot exist without your body and i think you need to understand that.

Your body is more then a vehicle or a god awful "container" (which i might add is used to teach disconnection from Synaptical thought leaving you feeling not alive and at the mercy of suicide or no fear of death) It is an absolutely scary thought when Astral projection and oneness can disconnect man from reality and make him believe his mind is more worthy then his body as you so stated above... How many Black magicians have used this concept of Reincarnation to manipulate people into dying and never fighting back? because in the end your not willing to strike the swine where he stands.

Philosophy i urge, as always.
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i responded
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i think you misunderstand, i never said "mind" i said "consciousness", which exists separately from your mind, the mind doesnt "create" consciousness its "biological computer" in order for consciousness to interact in the holgraphic 3 dimesional reality. this is physics and science, not "new age conformity"

look into some books about quantum mechanics and the nature of reality.
clearly your body is important, and if blackwater para military people come to round people up, ill certainly avoid them.
your here to experience whatever you experience and evolve from your experience. if there were no challenges to physical existence we wouldnt evolve both physically and spiritually.

what im saying is try and understand the nature of YOU and YOUR reality and what lessons you can learn while your here. not fearing death just means your not easily controlled by fear, it doesnt mean you jump off a building. free will means you have choice even if you think you dont- you do.
you can be negative or positve both have value- personally i want to be in harmony with others and the environament, thats my choice. unfortunatley the people who choose negativity have great power because of our very fear of death and only living in survival.

wars would stop instantly if everyone were to realize this and realize each of us has the power to do EXACTLY what we choose. no one can make you kill another person, its your belief that "they" can, so in fact "they" do because you give them the power to do so- its just as easily the other way around.

if someone said you have to join the army or youll be shot, then i would say "too bad im not joining" then whoever was supposed to shoot me has to make a choice to do so, and most likely he would only do so for fear of harm or death himself- its not that he wants to.

everyone is taking orders all the way up the line.
it stops when YOU dont follow orders. this is the big secret the few have ruled the many since we stopped being small tribes and became "civilized"

no one is going to make me kill another, thats why i think "aware" people who talk about heading to the hills and buying guns arent "aware" of anything, theyre just a little ahead of the curve on current events.

this isnt new age pseudo science mumbo jumbo, this is common sense and i dont need a benevolent alien or a new age guru to figure this out.

-kyle

within what gets labeled "new age" is a lot of truth just as there is truth in some religions and in science, you have to put it together for yourself.

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I am SO in love with you right now!

The most baffling thing about all this "new age" labeling of ideas such as yours and mine is that I've not seen ONE post that bemoaned any of the major religions for being "fluffy". Why the unequal treatment?

Is it because the truth of being PERSONALLY responsible for EVERYTHING in one's life is too much to handle, so then rather than confront it or try to understand it they make fun of it?

I for one relish the empowerment I got from my new age years. Brought me to here. Brought me to knowing who and what I am.

Thanks, Kyle!

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Ditto!

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Conjured,

Do you want confirmaton from your peers that you're A-OK? Or do you honestly want a different viewpoint so that you can truly question where you are going?

If you want a fair but honest treatise on the pitfalls of the New Age movement I will be happy to write one. However, it will take some time and effort. This is why I ask in advance.

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I know I am EXACTLY where I am supposed to be.
And really, who knows where they are going?

I want to understand why so many detest all things so loosely labeled "new age"? Why does it drive people so batty? Why don't the other major belief structures get hammered as much?

What am I missing?

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Heya, conjured! I like your new pic!

I've been known to deride the new age movement... but, you're right about it helping to make you 'grow'.. it did me too. If it wasn't for the new age movement...alot of the spiritual stuff that we take for granted as 'real' wouldn't have evolved as quickly..

I was a flower child back in the late 60, early 70s when it was all about love and piece. There was an innocence to all the sex drugs and rock and roll back then. We were naive. We thought that we could change the word with love ins and healthy eating and LSD. Much like the new age movement of today.

But, I'm older and no longer innocent. And sometimes, I don't have the patience for people who wear their rose colored glasses and speak of love all the time.. I know I need to step outside of myself sometimes and see life thru other peoples rose colored glasses. I have this feeling that time is short. It's time to stop being naive about our very real situation.

Oh, my... I'm sorry for prattling on and on... all of this is just my opinion. And .. you know what they say about opinions!

Love ... Cookie

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To study and learn all kinds of philosophical views and other religious teachings from the globe even when we do not agree with them helps us to understand the true heart of God, the creator or whatever you wish to call him. After 4 yrs of theological studies I walked away, why ?
We have a confession session where we invited several Reverends to talk honestly about their life in the pulpit. Ooooh not one was able to unite the teachings of the bible with the reality of their life, thus living a double life.
They where good hearted people , some of them are my friends but they honestly speaking where in pure hell. A case where words and deeds did not match. So Rev. Frank Samuel ran from the pulpit to find himself as he related
to God and the world. I will not live a double life. So if you term that to be New Age so be it. I still love you the same, I am nobody to judge the awakening process of each individual. How can somebody say that Ghandi was not a man of God or that God only speaks through the Bible. In my journeys I met many Holy man who where closer to God than my friends in the pulpit. 50 yrs. on a spiritual journey, not perfect by any means but at least I can live with myself.:thumb_yello:

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One aspect of the concept of "New Age" that produce aversion is the corruption that has been seeded in it.

Take religion as example. All began with a teacher, a guide. They didn't create religion with their guidance. The initial Knowledge brought was genuine. But after years, the controllers detected the danger. Or they covered it with fear and violence, or they corrupted it and used it to their interest.

Jehoshua came as a guide and one thing he taught was the Universal Laws. Just like many others after and before him. Today, the presence of the Universal Laws in the Gospel is covered by smoke and camouflage. It doesn't mean the message is bad or wrong. It means the Truth is there, but covered with corruption.

Now, forget about religion, new age, spirituality, philosophy, science, history, etc... We label things to better manipulate them, but when it's time to take away the corruption to uncover the truth, just imagine you with the Universe that surround you.

The Knowledge gained by observation/experience is genuine. And this observation/experience is present in all religion, new age movement, science, history, etc... The corruption creates the confusion.

This is why we argue so often. Now, arguing is important, but more importantly is not trying to convince. Stay calm and respect. Sometimes, unfortunately dialogue isn't the way. Example is better.

My two cents, Namaste sister, Steven

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Thank you for sharing your story.

I am my own "religion" for lack of a better term.
There are no books, or doctrines.
Just my internal guide that I trust to feel my way around this vast and expanding existence. I just KNOW.

Perfection is in the eye.... :-)

Love and light to you,
C

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labels divide, period.
Ego is addicted to labeling.
When one shows disdain for, or defense of a label, they are exercising their ego.
Identifying with a label, is the ego's need for attachment.
Cursing a label, is the ego protecting their contrasting "Non-Conformist" label.

I prefer to Be here now, experience all of this unconditionally, and honor my truth while experiencing yours from a neutral position.
No one makes me feel, besides me.

Circles,
CW

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By the definition posted above, I would gladly accept the title and drive on....but what's the purpose of a title? I have no use for it. Does anyone? Other than a source of division, it serves no purpose.

When I was a kid, and all the way into my late teens, I was in a church family. Sundays, Wednesdays, all that. There was always a stigma that surrounded the term New Age. "Oh, when you meditate you're opening yourself up to demonic possession, those crystals they use are all about witchcraft - it's best just to keep that evil at a distance." Are you kidding me?! But that is what was taught. When I finally decided to start looking - I ended up with probably the same reaction many of you did - a combination of relief and outrage. Relief that all of your suspicions were right on the money. And outrage for having been lied to for so long. But back to the point, Christianity has always been the religion of choice for the great U S of A. So even though many people have used the vessel of Christianity to arrive at this point (this point being the recognition of a much bigger picture), the programming that went along with it is still present. Granted, we're all going to be at various stages of the deprogramming process, but that one is a doozie - one that carried a lot of ill-placed emotions. Fear being the dominant one. Evil is a spooky word, people.

So, if I carry the title of New Ager - does that automatically imply that I'm not storing up on food? That's just silly. That's like saying that everyone born under the sign of Gemini all have the same personality, or hair color even! It's a broad, sweeping title that lumps a bunch of people into a group that's separate from another. It's just another label whose time has come to get lost in antiquity. If the label doesn't imply an inherent connectedness, it doesn't serve us and ought to be summarily dropped. What if another label that meant the exact same thing (definition above) was used as the new descriptor of everyone intending and manifesting all of those ideals? What inclusive title implies all connection, all love, all knowing, and truth? When you come up with it, I'll take it.
WE need to move in a direction TOGETHER. How are we going to do it? How much more effective will it be as a collective drive?
Separating is so last age.:biggrin2:

Peace and light.

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haha thanks!

and for the guy asking if your looking for validation i would say your not, what has been labeled "new age' needs clarification. it did for me too because some of it can be "bubble gum spirituality" and a lot of truths get distorted and "ascended masters" etc etc.

ive read new age books that talk about meeting jesus the "asended christ master" or whatever, that should set off red flags as they are taking what has been told to them is historical fact, when it isnt (jesus is combined mythological character -if you look into it its actually astrologically based and many figures pre dating jesus have the same 'died on the cross, then rose 3 days later etc etc, he wasnt the first religious character with this story)

anyhow the fact that this new age book contained a meeting with "jesus the light being" should set off common sense warnings. eventhough her book was filled with positive messages and meditative techniques, i couldnt take her whole pleaidian/dolphin/healing etc at face value.

ancient peoples have been practicing elements of what "new age" supposedly is. all religions have elements of truth with monumental amounts of rubbish. bhuddism,hinduism,muslim,christian etc. deciding what makes sense out of that is what works.

as well as science, the wisest scientist will tell you "we know this much, but itll probably get disproven" as that is historically what happens, so again elements of science have profound truths but using discernment again is best and not putting all your eggs in one basket.

i think "new age" is a box people think youll be wearing crystals and white robes and be very mellow and speak of love as the only thing, the only truth is love.

while I personally, agree love is a powerful force, and i choose to be positive loving and in balance with nature as best i can, its naive to believe LOVE is the end all be all answer, love is the yin and negativity/destruction is the yang.

i dont like negativity or "evil" but i realize there is a point in it existence. life is both positive and negative and you cant have one without the other, if negativity served no purpose it wouldnt exist. the fact is we GROW and evolve when we have something to struggle against, the irony is once we discover "that"-- we dont have to struggle as much, we can simply "exist" and choose to serve one path or the other.

anyhow, im babbling, what ive gained from all this spiritual/scientific inquiry is that i should enjoy life, its not a curse and if something bad happens to you or me its only "bad" from this human 3D experience, in the larger scheme of things nothing is good or bad it just "IS" and we should enjoy this slice of reality, ESPECIALLY if you consider how many bilions of people probably have it "worse" than you. its all a matter of perspective.

thanks fer listening!

EDIT--ps and YES!! personal responsibility is one of the best things to be gleaned from "new age" it is an absolute truth , you have free will therefore YOU and only you are responsible for your actions and their outcomes.

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Hey all, Feel inclined to get involved, so here is my opinion.
Why is New Age “bad” to soooo many people?
I don’t think New Age is bad to so many, it’s the idea that you can ignore your current reality, for a new paradigm that we are trying to bring in, to manifest, which is love based, instead of greed based. It is very obvious that our world has a lot of beings who have, it seems, no love in them. And that perhaps there are other forces involved that are not so loving. Ultimately, many of us desire the new age ideas & want to live in unconditional love & are. Many are not. There will have to be great shifts in consciousness to change the whole world. To ignore this transition period, will not help bring about the conscious change needed. So maybe that helps answer why you feel division, instead of love in oneness!

Why is trusting your intuition, caring about what you put in your body, being positive, spiritual healing and knowing your potential as a human considered by so many in this forum to be less than any other "belief" structure, including belief in ETs?

I think trusting your intuition, following your heart, is the most important thing, PERIOD, especially in times like these. The other things are a no brainer.

Isn't it like ALL beliefs...before KNOWING settles in? Isn't it a stepping stone? And if that's the case, why make people who are on that stone feel LESS than by mocking their beliefs?


Yes. Before knowing settles in. Are you already walking around in your KA (light body). Are you manifesting apples in your hand? If not, you’re still standing on the stone. You can be IN LOVE, there are three plumes to the flame in your heart, Love, Power & Wisdom. Balance is the key.Just because we arrive into a state of knowing ,one love, does not mean we R done, we got a big universe in here to discover!!!
If people are mocking anyone, for anything, then they’re not in unconditional love. Unconditional love comes from understanding, not everyone is at the same level of understanding, and darkness reveals the light. At a higher level, one could say, all is good. While someone in TX right now, who recently lost their home, doesn’t feel all is good right now, but ultimately, it is all good because everything is unfolding to bring the change we need, but not everybody can see this. Also, a parent, out of love, could harshly discipline a child. It doesn’t seem like love at the time, but it is out of love.

Who are the teachers of New Age philosophy that we shouldn't be listening to lest our brains turn to "fluff"?

We are at a time now, when you need to listen to your heart. All of life is your teacher, LOVE is the goal and LOVE wins, we have to finish the game, the game of LIFE, and tag your it!!!

Fluff good ,sticky good to, find the balance!

Peace to all in these changing times. tOM

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i agree you should use your intuition and feelings also meditating has been around a lot longer than the term "new age" and i recommend that too!

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Fundamentalist Christians get hammered - as do Christians in general (and rightly so).

Muslims get hammered hard - (and rightly so).

Hindus get hammered - (and rightly so).

Even Buddhists get hammered - (and rightly so).

Why shouldn't New Agers get hammered?

There is no single body of knowledge that contains all Truth and no lie. Each major religion or belief system contains some level of danger. I never said New Age was 'Bad'. I said there are pitfalls and I stand by that statement.

However, from your post, it is evident to me that you really don't want to discuss what they may be.

Best of luck to you in the future.

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(Bear with me...I haven't had the time to read all the posts here. Mrs Dood is distracting me. hehe! :naughty:)

What annoys me about the term New Age is how it gets a 'Bad Rap'.

People will simply throw EVERYthing into that catagory and call it New Age.
ANYthing that is not Religious or follows some Organized Christian Religion/Dogma/Doctrine.
Or lable people 'New Agers'.
I have been labled that many times. I am NOT a New Ager!
I even been told what I share is simply Propaganda and not truth.
Mostly by very religious people.
Very closed minded religious people I might add....

It is used in a derogitory fashion no different then how the term Liberal is used.
As IF all people that have liberal leanings are BAD, or stoopid!

I personally get real tired of lables like this.
When I tell people I am NOT religious they will then ask me why I do not believe in GOD. [groan]

I never SAID that.

I do not believe in a Zeus type God. I believe there is a Source of ALL Things.
I do not believe in a 'God' that is an old white man when a long beard sitting on a throne with a book in his hand that says if I am Naughty or Nice.
If I am Naughty then I get a zap from a lightening bolt and sent to some form of Hell.
If I am Nice then I am deemed 'special' and I get a Special Place to go.

I do not believe in that. I think that is silly!
To me to put 'God' or as I just stated The Source of ALL Things in a box like that actually limits any being of that sort.
AND..Of course *I* am still 'LEARNING' about this. I never will say I have ALL the answers.
I am still forming the questions.

The Source of ALL Things is NOT HUMAN...nor has a Human Face or Human like Emotions.
Nor can The Source of ALL Things have ANY HATE within.
It is a Being of absolute pure love.

The Source of ALL Things just IS! The true/pure form of BE-ING!

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I've not seen any one group more bashed on this forum than the "new agers". Even the witnesses do it. And the mods.

I've yet to come across a post that decries any of the big 3 religions. And that's not from lack of trying.

Well, I am all for discussing anything, but thanks anyway.

Luck back at you.
:-)

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If there was a group of ....say 50 Fundamentalist Christians here who cherry picked Bible verses to backup their own beliefs and attempt to convert non believers do you think they would get bashed?

To oblivion methinks. But aren't here and they aren't doing that, are they?

Look at it from the other side for a moment.

There are a lot of members who don't buy into the complete new age hulabaloo here. What gives you Spiritual or Intellectual superiority over them that they can't question your beliefs?

One pitfall of EVERY belief system is a sense of "I have the Truth. Don't question me. Just believe me."

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Hey Arcora I am glad you stay, no matter what we are here to help each other, and that's all that matters to me.
God bless you always, by the way my 1 1/2 yr.ol kid sends you a kiss and a hug.He's the little clown that makes everybody laugh.
Please take care and be safe :thumb_yello:

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That sir, would be an impossibility as I have no beliefs.
I just KNOW.

Thank you for your time and energy.

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Just like the Christians, Muslims and Jews.

Congratulations on being so enlightened that everythiing you know is True and for knowing everything there is to know.

You are free to close your mind.

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You are not missing much. My guess is that you pretty much know the answer instictively but cannot believe how simple it is.

Peoples reactions, thinking and judgements are informed by thier social conditioning and programming. For many people that means the usual gamut of illuminati inspired dogma. It is as simple as that.

Whenever you encounter such prejudice you are simply encountering a situation wherein, should you so choose or be guided to do so, you can help.

Complex knots require patience and care to unravel effectively - and in such a manner as not to make the entanglement worse.

A..

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QUOTE arcora;

Look at it from the other side for a moment.

There are a lot of members who don't buy into the complete new age hulabaloo here. What gives you Spiritual or Intellectual superiority over them when they question your beliefs?

One pitfall of EVERY belief system is a sense of "I have the Truth. Don't question me. Just believe me."[/QUOTE]

Questioning is one thing, insulting is another.
No one prefers to be insulted.
Thing is, I didn't get that Conjured is aiming for "superiority", or hierarchy.
She stated that she knows she is where she is supposed to be, not where you are supposed to be, or where everyone should be.

And the pitfall you mentioned? Isn't the result of a belief structure, it is the result of a programmed attitude about a belief.
And I agree, it is unbecoming.

Peace,
CW

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:thumb_yello:

Love that statement; it is dancing joyfully around in my mind even still.

I used to be a Christian

I used to be a New Ager, too

Both titles never sat well with me and both experiences left me frustrated, yet also with tools to take with me into the unknown.

Now, I have made very good friends with the unknown. I understand there is a "presence" with me, yet I have no name for this other than what I give to it myself. This presence is how I am able to be friendly with the unknown and the uncertain.

Others will be on the path meant for them, and their beliefs have little to do with me for the most part, it seems. I give them room. (I know I appreciate the same.)

I certainly do not think I know everything. As an Inuit shaman once said ~ all I will ever admit to knowing is "ikoze" (... a little bit)

:tongue2:

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:lmfao:Greeting's to all,
Wow! Lots of diverse talk. I try and keep it simple. Whats new is really old and vice-versa. There probably isn't an idea or concept that hasn't been thought of before and forgotten or pushed aside? Through the ages, there has been a lot of effort spent on keeping enlightened individuals or societes from advancement, though. Remember, this is the Prison Planet. An enslavement of mankind is the endgame! I believe, New Age music is fairly new, though? ha! giovonni

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I can Speak in Tongues and I can have an OBE....

So what does that make me? hehe!

Simply an Old Dood that is learning new things...

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I gotta agree with Isa. This is a perfect line for my NOW.

Thank you.
Love and light,
C

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This could shine some light on the whole New Age thing..

http://www.geocities.com/kankerboek/new_aids.html

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And, that is truly a fouled anchor in your picture there Anchor. :winksmiley02:

The discussion about any "religion" based on "feelings" I stay away from. :thumbdown:

But this was an interesting read. Right on Old Dood :thumb_yello:

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Armand please elaborate. What is this article about KKK or extremist views. Please explain, no pum intended ! Pretty harsh ! Just as well welcome to project avalon home of the loonie toons !!! :roll1: :welcomeani:
"Just when I thought I know something I have to go back and relearn everything again".

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A lesson I shall take away from this, if you don't mind, sir.
Thank you.

Lovingly,
C

... New Age ... The core.
 

In the New Age movement we find a lot of topics to discuss. (woo :yikes: haha )

Fist, lets go to the man who the new agers says he is the "father of the movement", that's Teilhard de Chardin.

Teilhard de Chardin was a Jesuit. For the Jesuits we must have a new thread (really are one in the conspirancy research's project camelot part of the forum). So, I didn't give a lot of credit and a lot of credibility about the movement's "father".
Look what Alberto has to say about the jesuits. (in google video you can see talking about that).

Now there's a extremely good explanatory vid about the Jesuits called The Secret Behind Secret Societies. I encourage you to see it.

There's a lot of information about the movement, I found This: http://www.amazingdiscoveries.org/th...-maitreya.html.

Ok, there are two mayor topics to discuss about that movement.

Leo Zagami says that the Jesuits are searching for a new (controled) "messaiah" because they want to control spiritually the next world (in earth), a Spiritual new world.

The first topic is that We are increasing our consiousnees in spiritual fields.

Just see some of David Wilcock's investigations. And Many-many Others.

My Theory is that the evolution of counsiousness are coming yes or yes but the Jesuit/illuminaty are trying to Infect all what we search with they "luciferian" techings, an that's what the following topic is al about: the conspirancy against G O D.

"No one will enter the New World Order he or she will make a pledge to worship lucifer. No one will enter the New Age unless will take a luciferian initiation"
-David Spangler. Director of Planetary Initiative, United Nations.

Just look at Dr. Deagle's lectures, Alberto Rivera (see before), Bill Cooper and a lot more like Henry Markow, etc.

The idiot-men in earth are luciferians and the core of that teaching are that Jehoshua isn't what we think he Is and the people must be Distracted from him because he is the gate to G O D.

So, That's sounds extremely religious (and from one branch in particular), but, actually isn't. The religions are something old fashioned that the humanity (and every person individualy) must pass in the spiritual career. but is the first step that usually is used.

The next step for the spiritual person is the Personal Religion, your own nameless experience, (if you want invent a name for it!) . And that's what the Jesuits/illuminati want to control flooding the book stores with false teachings. But, of course there's a lot of Good Sources, but they are infiltrated, like Alberto Rivera says.

I was reading Deepak Chopra by example and what he says make me sense and isn't nothing evil, in fact, a secret: What Deepak says are the SAME what many ancient South American cultures say, in fact, both discovers the Same spiritual path and that's spiritually all about, a lot of differents laws to discover about cosmology, self behavior, social behavior, etc.


(Q: Why the Vatican wants to hide Jehoshua? Because that institution never was a Christian one, It's the last Mystery Religion with a Christian Makeup. -Constantine, who was a Mythraic and Solar Invictus follower, both mysteries religions, like the babylonian with Nimrod, Semiramis and Baal and the later Egiptian one with their equals Horus, Isis and Seth, can not kill the cristians so he managed to Mold Both Religions. Because that the life of Jesus have something similar to those Solar religions, like the birth in 25 december or the death an resurreccion 3 days later, all of these dates are sun travel trough the Sky-. The Roman Catholic church persecuted the real cristians for 1000 years! That's why they put Mary in front of Him and have him hanged dead in a croos, an ancient pagan simbol).


Other idiot thing about the NAM is all the ascended masters stuff. They are really interdimensinal non positive beings who scam us (as well several cases of contact with outer space beings, you know, the luciferians says they workship the "extraplutonian beings" that equal of "being from beyond than Pluto") and with their prescence disminish Jehoshua, making we look in their way not Him's and that is pure luciferian teaching.

Look, before Jesuit Teilhard de Chardin say to us that Jehoshua are just another human, ascended master, something like that (pure luciferianism), we used to believe that Jehoshua are What some christians say he was throught history. Remember what a lot of Good and really informed people says about him, Dr. Deagle, J J Benítez, Bill Coper, Bill Schnoebelen, what The Urantia Book (another topic just for it) shows.

Really I believe more in those men and a Lot of really good people than what the Jesuit/illuminati/luciferian controled New Age Movement (remember that's a spiritual awakening so there ere a lot of good books out there) and Jesuit Teilhard de Chardin Says about HIM.

Cheers!

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Is it possible to just be....

I believe we as people have an awful habbit of having to define and label things whether they be beliefs, cultures, personalities, skin colour or whatever. Understandably if they were not named and defined there wud be obvious confusion but with defining what's what and who's who you are also automatically segregating and dividing. This leads to many other unwanted routes in itself with 'my dad is better than ur dad' scenarios...:smoke:
Ofcourse it is fun to have ur allegiances..for example - different sports teams fans...but even these are also known to have turned into horrific scenes of violence and hatred at such a deep rooted level.
This is also replicated at a much bigger level with regards to religions and beliefs.
Your either a this or that...or u believe in this set of life guidelines or these, i believe we have been drilled and/or forced over the years to think in this way...regretably.

If you truly follow what you believe to be right in your heart, without harming or any bad intention towards any other conscious being then surely that is all you need.
This means being you and letting others be themselves and to know...to really know that if you follow what you believe to be right...not what wikipedia deems as right or what any text/person describes as right, then you are being true to yourself and ultimately doing the right thing. Letting others do the same is part of this and possibly the hardest for some.
Ofcourse our lives have been pulled and pushed in all areas with regards to what and what not to believe...sadly some more than others and to me this is the struggle. The struggle to realise and understand that i am not right or wrong in what i believe, and you are not right or wrong in what you believe. Rather i am me...and you are you and together we are, and we must base our decisions we make on what is right and true in ourselves at that time.

Personally i believe that the most precious thing here and why we are here is love. To love and to experience...

You dont have to be a lovey-dovey, auber-romantic flower child conservationalist to understand this.

The only thing i know to be true is love

peace
bananaman

apologies for the length of this :original:

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No offense but isnt that the same statement all followers say about their belief? The fact that you say what you follow is not a belief but knowledge can be a dangerous statement and again one echo'd by every follower of faith.

I have my beliefs, I have my faith but one question I regularly ask is, "what if I'm wrong?"

I think one issue with New Age philosophy is people seem to follow without question because it fullfills their need to reject conventional religion and it is all warm and fluffy, puppies and flowers. I don't mean that to be condescending but I've yet to find any faction of NA philosophy which acknowledges the darker side of things, in other words, that there are dark forces at work. Everybody on this board obviously recognises this otherwise they wouldnt be here!

In establishing my belief, I take what resonates AND I apply the acid test, does it work? Does it stand up to scrutiny. I pick it apart. You must question EVERYTHING!

I agree completely with Arcora.

NO ONE KNOWS WHAT IS REAL, NO ONE KNOWS WHAT IS RIGHT. And those who say they do are fools and should be avoided :biggrin2:

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Thank you all for sharing your opinions with me in this matter.
I wasn't looking for a challenge or personal attacks.
Not one of us is right, except for ourselves.
I accept that we are all different and on separate paths.
None better or brighter than another.
I drop my sword.
Division is useless. Especially now.

Love and light to you all.