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Jogy 10-23-2008 01:33 PM

Possible deep insider on another forum right now.
 
Hiya, I don't like to spam another site but i think this could be of assistance to the people here.

Look at the topic Here And specifically the OP and the follow up on posts of Hidden_hand

He has interesting things to say and will stay untill friday. It may be a hoaxer, but to be honest i do not think so and the reason he stated why he is doing this 'session' does make sense on some levels (retaining balans and free will can only be done with the availability of information) It sheds a whole new light on the 'evil doers' behind the scenes. I will collect and package the topic when he is done to keep it safe 'just in case'. He has some disturbing and uplifting things to share with us, look for yourselves and let me know if it rings true with any of you.

Antaletriangle 10-23-2008 01:43 PM

Re: Possible deep insider on another forum right now.
 
This is hidden hand's opening sequence:
I am a generational member of a Ruling Bloodline Family.

Every so often, as per the directives of the Law of our Creator, a brief window of opportunity opens, whereby a select handful of our Family are required to make communication with our subjects, and offer you the chance to ask us any questions you would like answered.

I am double-bound in this duty. It is required of me by The Law of our Creator to offer this opportunity to you at this time, though I am also bound by the Law of (planetary) Free Will and by Family Oaths, that there is only so much I am able to say.

Rules define life in games.

If you wish to participate, here they are:

1). I will afford you courtesy and respect in the manner I address you, and I expect the same from you in reciprocation.

2). I will decide whether or not I am either willing or permitted to answer your question. If your question is not answered, it is either because I cannot disclose it, or because I considered your question was lacking in one or more of the following: respect, courtesy, intelligence, decency, or that it was otherwise unworthy of being dignified with a response.

3). That you agree to treat this potential dialogue with an aspect of "provisional faith". In practice, this means that rather than impeding the flow of information with crass comments of disbelief or petty name calling, my participation here requires of you that you discourse with me under "suspended judgment". In other words, wait until the process is complete, before deciding for yourself as to the content of truth and knowledge imparted herein.

4). That you formulate your questions intelligently. My time is limited. I do not want to waste it by having to trawl through pointless, futile, insensible or disrespectful questions, therefore I will answer the questions I feel are most deserving of a response, during the time that I have available. Use the time we have wisely.

If any of the above conditions are breached, I reserve the right to terminate our discourse forthwith, if I so choose.


That being said, I will attempt to answer your questions as honestly and openly as is permissible for me. I will check back and respond as time allows.



He replies here saying that rivers spring from oceans!?I may be too pedantic-but should be more accurate if the person concerned was of 'bloodline'.
Hidden hand:
Yes, as I say, knowing the line is of no practical use to you. It is the belonging to the Family that is important.
There are 13 'base' or 'core' original bloodlines. Yet there are many many other lines that spring from these, as do rivers from the oceans. If you imagine the 13 Original lines as Primary colour, that can be mixed to create a vast array of other colours, then you will have some comprehension. Again, no competition, just Family.
No competition in the sense of House against House, though it is a 'dog eat dog' world. So there is interpersonal competition in that sense of the word. Everyone wants to move up. Our whole Familial society is geared that way, toward upward progression.

Thanks for these links JOGY-interesting.

arcora 10-23-2008 01:51 PM

Re: Possible deep insider on another forum right now.
 
A reptilian speaks on ATS. How droll.

Antaletriangle 10-23-2008 02:01 PM

Re: Possible deep insider on another forum right now.
 
I'd give it a read either way arcora,however i understand exactly what you mean.Hidden hand talks about ATS being the most 'intelligent' forum and we are now in the time of 'the great harvest' and they need the world to be negatively polarised when this happens;goes on to say we're doing a great job of this and truly thanks all of humanity for our evils on each other!etc.etc.

arcora 10-23-2008 02:05 PM

Re: Possible deep insider on another forum right now.
 
I read it. Lies mixed with truth designed to deceive. Reptillianspeak.

Antaletriangle 10-23-2008 02:12 PM

Re: Possible deep insider on another forum right now.
 
In agreement mate-i love how they try their best;it's nowhere near good enough to turn me from the light but i also understand that on a spiritual level what we perceive as evil can sometimes be for the benefit of humanity-like when your mother told you as a kid-have to be cruel to be kind,slapping the wrists when messing with matches-at the time in your youth it's perceived as an hostile act from your parents but it's their way of stopping it happening again for your own survival..I find the posting by hidden hand quite interesting-we do have to see everything from different viewpoints otherwise there'd be no use in us being here.Be good to each other and love is the main objective.
Hidden hand:
Another excellent (and very insightful) question. Thank you.
The higher the quality of the question, the more depth I can give to my answer. It all has to do with the Laws of Confusion and Free Will.


Yes, the noonday Winter Solstice Sun of December 21st, 2012 is the time when the Lord of The Harvest shall return. You might know him as "Nibiru".

seekur3 10-23-2008 02:12 PM

Re: Possible deep insider on another forum right now.
 
"Rules define life in games." says it all. We do have FREE WILL to choose to play their game or not.
It's time for thinking humans to walk the walk, past the talk.

Seth Haniel 10-23-2008 02:27 PM

Re: Possible deep insider on another forum right now.
 
listening to John Lear and I think that ATS should be given a wide berth by people who want the facts

Tuza 10-23-2008 02:31 PM

Re: Possible deep insider on another forum right now.
 
He really is pushing my buttons this guy (well I presume its a guy)

quote:
I will decide whether or not I am either willing or permitted to answer your question. If your question is not answered, it is either because I cannot disclose it, or because I considered your question was lacking in one or more of the following: respect, courtesy, intelligence, decency, or that it was otherwise unworthy of being dignified with a response.

His kidding isn't he, please tell me his kidding. :nono:

Jogy 10-23-2008 03:09 PM

Re: Possible deep insider on another forum right now.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Seth Haniel (Post 59570)
listening to John Lear and I think that ATS should be given a wide berth by people who want the facts


That is nonsense, the board is as good as the USERS on it. The admins and mods can, on some low level steer a discussion but when there is a major cover up people will notice. Remember it is a Conspiracy board, people on there tend to be naturally on guard. So not knowing or caring the Lear fight that caught fire there it is a USER GENERATED board.

And dismissing a whole board on the word of ONE angry person is bizarre, throwing out the baby with the bathwater. You can say what you want but it COULD be a truthfull poster. Take the information and look for the parts that make sense. Never ever follow someone elses opinion, make your own.

That guy could be a total doushbag or the real thing. Do you really want to pass up a chance to get good information on the presumption that the whole site is corrupt? I visit the site almost daily, does that make me a infiltrator? Guilty by association? Is that not a dogma of the current paradigm and not the one we want to bring into existence?

Sorry about popping the lid, carry on :thumb_yello:

Antaletriangle 10-23-2008 03:17 PM

Re: Possible deep insider on another forum right now.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tuza (Post 59576)
He really is pushing my buttons this guy (well I presume its a guy)

quote:
I will decide whether or not I am either willing or permitted to answer your question. If your question is not answered, it is either because I cannot disclose it, or because I considered your question was lacking in one or more of the following: respect, courtesy, intelligence, decency, or that it was otherwise unworthy of being dignified with a response.

His kidding isn't he, please tell me his kidding. :nono:

After reading this, well,last page now i find it very informative and rings a true bell in many areas.It's all about positive service to each other,thanks for the post again JOGY

Hidden hand quote:
"Thank you. We are aware of Project Camelot. They are doing some remarkable work. Though I was not aware they also have a forum, if that's what you are suggesting? Not really my area usually, dealing with the internet. In fact I rarely have time to even venture onto it. I have quite enjoyed this time of relating to others over "cyber-space".


Well, if you're game for an "assignment", or maybe someone else if you haven't the time, I would be happy for someone to collate this topic (minus the "interruptions") so that the message appears with just the actual flow of questions and answers, and post it there in one piece, if you so desire. As I mentioned before, I chose ATS as I was reliably informed that it is one of the forums with a higher rate of intelligence and reasoning amongst it's members. On the whole, from my experience here, I would tend to agree.
Though if you think it would be of value to Camelot, by all means you are most welcome to spread this message. The more people it can reach, the better."

371 10-23-2008 03:18 PM

Re: Possible deep insider on another forum right now.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Antaletriangle (Post 59549)
Hidden hand talks about ATS being the most 'intelligent' forum

:roftl: That's a good one.

arcora 10-23-2008 03:54 PM

Re: Possible deep insider on another forum right now.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Antaletriangle (Post 59613)
After reading this, well,last page now i find it very informative and rings a true bell in many areas.It's all about positive service to each other,thanks for the post again JOGY

Hidden hand quote:
"Thank you. We are aware of Project Camelot. They are doing some remarkable work. Though I was not aware they also have a forum, if that's what you are suggesting? Not really my area usually, dealing with the internet. In fact I rarely have time to even venture onto it. I have quite enjoyed this time of relating to others over "cyber-space".


Well, if you're game for an "assignment", or maybe someone else if you haven't the time, I would be happy for someone to collate this topic (minus the "interruptions") so that the message appears with just the actual flow of questions and answers, and post it there in one piece, if you so desire. As I mentioned before, I chose ATS as I was reliably informed that it is one of the forums with a higher rate of intelligence and reasoning amongst it's members. On the whole, from my experience here, I would tend to agree.
Though if you think it would be of value to Camelot, by all means you are most welcome to spread this message. The more people it can reach, the better."

So a little flattery and some go running to take advice from reptilians?

samncheese 10-23-2008 04:08 PM

Re: Possible deep insider on another forum right now.
 
In the end these will scream howls of agony, for thier work will turn to rust and they will be force to eat thier own for want of food. The enlightened will move on and the wolf will be alone and morn the loss of sheep as if they died and know not where they went. Into the past they shall search and still think the angels are dead....sorry I was moved to write this, I don't know where it came from.....

Peace Be With You.

arcora 10-23-2008 04:28 PM

Re: Possible deep insider on another forum right now.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by samncheese (Post 59651)
In the end these will scream howls of agony, for thier work will turn to rust and they will be force to eat thier own for want of food. The enlightened will move on and the wolf will be alone and morn the loss of sheep as if they died and know not where they went. Into the past they shall search and still think the angels are dead....sorry I was moved to write this, I don't know where it came from.....

Peace Be With You.

And I was reminded of this...

“Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing? The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the Lord, and against his anointed, saying, Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us. He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision. Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure.”

Psalm 2:1-5

THE eXchanger 10-23-2008 04:59 PM

Re: Possible deep insider on another forum right now.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tuza (Post 59576)
He really is pushing my buttons this guy (well I presume its a guy)

quote:
I will decide whether or not I am either willing or permitted to answer your question. If your question is not answered, it is either because I cannot disclose it, or because I considered your question was lacking in one or more of the following: respect, courtesy, intelligence, decency, or that it was otherwise unworthy of being dignified with a response.

His kidding isn't he, please tell me his kidding. :nono:

NO, he/or she is NOT kidding

they are very clear in how they intent to eXchange

actually, that is quite a blessing they are up front

there are somethings
that some people are NOT allowed to reveal,
or, it goes against "inner circle" agreements/or traditions,
and, they are being quite clear about that
in how they make their statement

respect/courtesy/intelligence/decency are all necessary
aspects of "good eXchange"
otherwise, if at least three of them are lacking
courtesy/decency/and, respect,
it is necessary to NOT dignify those questions
with a response
(why waste good energy, on people who are NOT worthy of your eXchange)

on intelligence, i differ, in my own opinion,
as, i have never encountered, a question,
that was NOT intelligent ;)

brightest blessings
susan
the eXchanger

THE eXchanger 10-23-2008 05:03 PM

Re: Possible deep insider on another forum right now.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by arcora (Post 59638)
So a little flattery and some go running to take advice from reptilians?

you might be shocked one day to find out,
you have "one" dna strand, and, it is "reptilian" ;)

how you play that "one" strand,
makes all the difference in the world ;)

as long, as you, have "charge" or "issue" with something
you will never transcend it ;)

love
susan
the eXchanger

dayzero 10-23-2008 05:06 PM

Re: Possible deep insider on another forum right now.
 
A must read.

Be over 51%, that's all.

But _in_ "ALL". Always.

So why not aim for 100%?


All the Love

371 10-23-2008 05:12 PM

Re: Possible deep insider on another forum right now.
 
Quote:

Every so often, as per the directives of the Law of our Creator, a brief window of opportunity opens, whereby a select handful of our Family are required to make communication with our subjects, and offer you the chance to ask us any questions you would like answered.

I am double-bound in this duty. It is required of me by The Law of our Creator to offer this opportunity to you at this time, though I am also bound by the Law of (planetary) Free Will and by Family Oaths, that there is only so much I am able to say."

This doesn't make sense to me- if we're just sheep in their eyes why do they give a hoot about making communication with us and answering questions? If they think little of us, why patronize us like this?? I don't know about this...

whitecrow 10-23-2008 05:28 PM

Re: Possible deep insider on another forum right now.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jogy (Post 59531)
Look at the topic Here And specifically the OP and the follow up on posts of Hidden_hand

Interesting stuff. I don't necessarily have an opinion if this guy is for real, but most of what he says dovetails exactly with what I think is going on - especially the process for achieving freedom. It may not even matter if he is "for real." Very often the most profound truths are found in works of fiction. And every politician knows that facts can be made to lie.

samncheese 10-23-2008 05:35 PM

Re: Possible deep insider on another forum right now.
 
It doesn't matter what DNA anyone has, that is elitism. It is what is in your heart that matters. Not all reptiles are bad, not all humans are good.

peace be with you

Jogy 10-23-2008 05:39 PM

Re: Possible deep insider on another forum right now.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 371 (Post 59698)
This doesn't make sense to me- if we're just sheep in their eyes why do they give a hoot about making communication with us and answering questions? If they think little of us, why patronize us like this?? I don't know about this...

In the books that led most of us here, namely the paradigm series this issue has been touched upon in a similar way. Even the 'evil' ones are bound to the same rules as everyone else, they cannot break the rules but can bend them to the extreme. What that person said connects with what is said in those books. Especially when, as he claims he his, they are only evil in our 3th dimension perspective and they do it because in realities like this souls have te greatest opportunity to do good. Treat the information with detached interest and you will see the gems inside of em, even if the person is making an elaborate hoax he has to base it on truths so people stay interested. Don't follow blindly but use your own discrenment in these, heck ALL information given from whatever source that is not from your own wisdom. People tend to stick to their beliefs and dismissing anything that does not fit them, creating their own dogma and that is a terrible trap to fall into.

Sarahmay 10-23-2008 05:45 PM

Re: Possible deep insider on another forum right now.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jogy (Post 59531)
Hiya, I don't like to spam another site but i think this could be of assistance to the people here.

Look at the topic Here And specifically the OP and the follow up on posts of Hidden_hand

He has interesting things to say and will stay untill friday. It may be a hoaxer, but to be honest i do not think so and the reason he stated why he is doing this 'session' does make sense on some levels (retaining balans and free will can only be done with the availability of information) It sheds a whole new light on the 'evil doers' behind the scenes. I will collect and package the topic when he is done to keep it safe 'just in case'. He has some disturbing and uplifting things to share with us, look for yourselves and let me know if it rings true with any of you.

Hoaxer or not, it smells like truth to me. I've made my choice of positive polarity service to others...umm, most of the time...

swatch 10-23-2008 06:05 PM

Re: Possible deep insider on another forum right now.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jogy (Post 59531)
Hiya, I don't like to spam another site but i think this could be of assistance to the people here.

Look at the topic Here And specifically the OP and the follow up on posts of Hidden_hand

This is a brilliant enlightening read. Absolutely thought provoking.
Don't lose this opportunity to ask YOUR question.
Someone is on the internet that should not be missed.

arcora 10-23-2008 06:28 PM

Re: Possible deep insider on another forum right now.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by eXchanger (Post 59690)
you might be shocked one day to find out,
you have "one" dna strand, and, it is "reptilian" ;)

how you play that "one" strand,
makes all the difference in the world ;)

as long, as you, have "charge" or "issue" with something
you will never transcend it ;)

love
susan
the eXchanger

And you may be shocked one day to find out that it isn't only humans who lie, and captors have no interest in teaching captives how to escape.

Rocky_Shorz 10-23-2008 07:01 PM

Re: Possible deep insider on another forum right now.
 
hmmmmm sounds like someone got bored after Oct 14th didn't happen...

I read quite a few and can't remember who it sounds like...

wwolf67 10-23-2008 07:05 PM

Re: Possible deep insider on another forum right now.
 
Can someone do me favor and post a link to the thread where arcora states that man is the only one with 2 strands of DNA and all other animals hane one strand. I need a good laugh today
Thanks
Balance to ALL

Giusmar 10-23-2008 07:13 PM

Re: Possible deep insider on another forum right now.
 
"I am a generational member of a Ruling Bloodline Family."

This same thread went on for months on Godlikeproduction forum. :sad:

arcora 10-23-2008 07:15 PM

Re: Possible deep insider on another forum right now.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wwolf67 (Post 59765)
Can someone do me favor and post a link to the thread where arcora states that man is the only one with 2 strands of DNA and all other animals hane one strand. I need a good laugh today
Thanks
Balance to ALL

I think you have me confused with someone else.

Lotus 10-23-2008 07:20 PM

Re: Possible deep insider on another forum right now.
 
So a member of the insider elite pulling the strings wants us to peak behind the curtain and ask questions? Fascinating. It's good for a laugh.:mfr_omg:

Jogy 10-23-2008 07:27 PM

Re: Possible deep insider on another forum right now.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Giusmar (Post 59769)
"I am a generational member of a Ruling Bloodline Family."

This same thread went on for months on Godlikeproduction forum. :sad:

Do you mean the one that is being spread in pdf format now? From 2005?

efields 10-23-2008 07:34 PM

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seems 'Spot On' to me. Having read a bit of the Law of One he seems to be right on the money. Whether real or imaginary he speaks much truth. Don't concern yourself the Where of which it comes. Only the content. I think most will not be able to comprehend the truth he speaks. But there is beauty in his words and vision and Love. Fear not of the epoch to come. See the glass half full as opposed to half empty. That is what were born here to do, and to learn.

Blessings to us all

michaelg 10-23-2008 07:38 PM

Re: Possible deep insider on another forum right now.
 
Hi, all.

It goes along the same lines as in the David Wilcock book in "Shift of the Ages" (includes also references to the "Law of One" series). BUT his book is on the positive side, very well explained scientifically, worth reading.

Positive and negative souls have to exist on this planet at this time on 3D density, that is one the "law of creation", folks.

Till the great harvest you still have plenty of time to join one side. I chose mine, like John Lear said quote:

"With integrity.
And without envy, hate or greed."

Peace

Giusmar 10-23-2008 07:38 PM

Re: Possible deep insider on another forum right now.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jogy (Post 59782)
Do you mean the one that is being spread in pdf format now? From 2005?

Yes, Jogy.

Magii 10-23-2008 07:45 PM

Re: Possible deep insider on another forum right now.
 
U guys want a Real Deep Insider?

Here is a Real Deal one .. not that ATS / GLP Garbage

ATS + GLP - FOR PROFIT AD Sites ..

They will do Everything possible to get as much people they can to make more $$$$$$

~~~
Anyways

Here is REAL DEAL Insider

Story
http://youfo.blogspot.com/2008/06/in...baldin-in.html

Forum
http://sleeperlou.proboards55.com/in...splay&thread=1

Forum that clipped many of his threads to one large thingy
http://lucianarchy.proboards21.com/i...ay&thread=4234


Have Fun Reading .. this is the good stuff
:wub2:

seekur3 10-23-2008 07:50 PM

Re: Possible deep insider on another forum right now.
 
Can't believe I actually read thru 7 pages of the hidden hand post. Nothing new that I hadn't read or heard before except for the justification of the Negative Harvest. That concept & the quote, "The less you know about the Game, and the less you remember that you're a player, the more "senseless" living becomes." strike me as disinfo-info. There's alot of ambiguity in those 2 ideas.

Hypnotize 10-23-2008 07:53 PM

Re: Possible deep insider on another forum right now.
 
it's obvious that ATS is a gov't run site so im not suprized to see a supposed "insider" spill a bunch of info that already been around for a while. the only dinference between his info and most others is that he says that these "elite families" are doing all this horrable stuff slavery, murder, war, ect for the good of mankind. sounds to me that the ptb are trying to get people to think that these families are for eveyones own good. he says that they are negative but by being negative their really being posative. in that case hitler must be a saint!

ctophil 10-23-2008 07:58 PM

Re: Possible deep insider on another forum right now.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Magii (Post 59795)
They will do Everything possible to get as much people they can to make more $$$$$$

Have you guys ever noticed that the U.S. Dollar symbol ($) looks like a snake on a pole, kinda like the medical symbol? Hmmm....the snake, the old serpent. I wonder if there is any correlation to these "reptilians" and following the old serpent...uhh I mean Satan. Ok, don't give me that Moses story about people seeing a snake on a pole and getting healed. This whole situation about the snake on a pole is a lot deeper than an old tradition passed down the ages from Moses' time. It's all about Satanic (ok, ok Luciferian too all the same thing in my opinion. Don't tell me it's different.) worship.

My advice, don't listen to this "insider." There are some false information in it, designed to deceive you. Just a warning.

-Phillip

Jogy 10-23-2008 07:59 PM

Re: Possible deep insider on another forum right now.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Magii (Post 59795)
U guys want a Real Deep Insider?

Here is a Real Deal one .. not that ATS / GLP Garbage

ATS + GLP - FOR PROFIT AD Sites ..

They will do Everything possible to get as much people they can to make more $$$$$$

~~~
Anyways

Here is REAL DEAL Insider

Story
http://youfo.blogspot.com/2008/06/in...baldin-in.html

Forum
http://sleeperlou.proboards55.com/in...splay&thread=1

Forum that clipped many of his threads to one large thingy
http://lucianarchy.proboards21.com/i...ay&thread=4234


Have Fun Reading .. this is the good stuff
:wub2:

Oh yeah, that sleeper thread started on, guess where?

ATS.

But thanks for the links i will read up on it, never had the courage reading up the 300+ pages on the original site.

Jogy 10-23-2008 08:07 PM

Re: Possible deep insider on another forum right now.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ctophil (Post 59815)
My advice, don't listen to this "insider." There are some false information in it, designed to deceive you. Just a warning.

-Phillip

Can you point to some of the false pieces of information please? Are you 100% sure that you are not holding on to your own deceptions that are being thaught to you now or have been teached in the past? Did it come from within you or has it been told to you by someone else? The mind is indeed a easy thing to decieve so please take a minute to make sure that you are not the one being decieved by pre-programmed dogma's. Not saying you are but i'm asking it myself pretty much every day and hope i am the wiser for it.


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