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Who is Now Building Radiant Zones?
Aloha everyone,
We know the ground crew has been networking together and we would like to start identifying Radiant Zones where people are committed to working together as a COOPERATIVE. Our research team is in the process of setting up our library and have been gathering all types of data that needs to be downloard by the various Cooperatives to have if and when the net goes down. Many of the team are quite brilliant when it comes to practical problem solving and we are currently working in multiple areas to provide as much practical data as possible. No one knows for sure that the grid is going down next year, but what we do know is that the governments of the world are preparing and the rest of us are literally left out in the cold. Subsequetly, we have to be both smart and practical when it comes to forming Radiant Zones for out various ground crews. We would like to invite folks to identify which radiant zones they are aware of.. meaning location... NE California.. or Four Corners.. places that have already been identified by the ground crew and where people are already forming their plan of action. I'm aware of some places in the US from awhile back where they actually had all of the underground facilities in... but that was several years ago. Our focus for you is to work together on the practical problem solving needed to make this work so there is as little disruption in ones life as possible. Planning ahead allows for smooth transitions. As many of us are working with limited budgets, pooling resources does work if there is a level of trust among the Cooperative members. Lists need to be developed as to what is needed and what can be purchased while this is still possible. Then others can scout for the best prices. Storage is also an issue and some things would need to be held back for later. Some type of underground structure is important if we are dealing with CMEs and high winds. We have already been tossing around a number of ideas on underground structures, heating, passive refridgerators, greenhouses, aquaponic gardens, free energy and so on. Everything that we have learned and are learning will be in the library. We already know we cannot depend on our governments to help us so this is why the need for our Radiant Zones. Please share with us what you have done or intend to do so we can all learn how to do this together. Please list the things you feel are vital and list the things that give you feelings of resistance when you think of living in a setting like this. Just write out a numbered list of essentials and one for things that makes you resist the idea and we can iron them all out. I would also like to add that I've been in a variety of Buddhist monestary settings where they all live together in harmony so I do know this type of Radiant Zone cooperative living is possible. For myself, the number one issue is privacy and the need to have alone time. This is just one small example of an inner need. Please feel free to share. Mahalo nui loa Just a little something extra for your viewing. This is the medias programing for first contact http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_bNDv0-ZrU |
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Great post looking forward to hearing from people about this. I feel we can work thru whatever obstacles that are in the way if we come together as a group :wub2:
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Great post Carol, suprised it hasnt gotten more replies than this.
I'm just back from the Netherlands, and spent the last two days of my trip in Amsterdam. I was amazed to see that it was very much business as usual in every city I dropped into. And after talking to quite a few people ive noticed just how few are actually aware of how seriously messed up our future could become. Another day another dollar. Thats pretty much it, noone thinks anything of 2012 other then rumours and conspiracies, and there are certainly very few who are taking it with any more then a pinch of salt. So my concern lies primarily with the people living in these cities. A city can dengenerate very quickly as very few of them grow their own food, and without an effectively working infrastructure these will be the first to face extreme difficulties. I wouldnt even dare drink from the taps on a normal day, let alone know where to look for clean water if anything bad were to happen. I dont normally like giving unsolicited advice especially when there is no sure fire way of proving to people that things are going to get difficult but the first step to ensure survival in any of the situations we've talked about here at avalon is to get out of the city. You can grow food in the country, and you can find water. But in the city, your more likely to spend your time evading gangs of hungry people and dodging disease. Well, it sure is good to get back home. I wasnt feeling too comfortable about walking around five metres below sea level. But im starting to think that it might be best if i move soon. Noones preparing around here, ive lost more friends who now think im crazy by speaking the truth then ive gained by talking **** 'fitting in'. We have our farm set up to grow potatoes, onions, cabbage, lettuce, tomatoes, leaks, and all sorts of other nutritious veggies, and we have a running stream from which we can get water and a filter to purify it. But were dangerously near the coast (25 miles) and it could be paranoia speaking but i just dont feel comfortable living that near the ocean. I'll be interested to see how many others have their safe place set up, and if its a community on a mountain nice and far from the oceans and cities, i might just pop round for a cup of tea. |
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Hola Carole,
PM me privately, if you would please. I am a grad student in library science and would be happy to help with the library in anyway I can. Thanks! Marian |
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Literally, being out in the middle of nowhere we have to depend upon each other here and we too are having difficulties just coordinating 100 farmers in our Cooperative. The number one reason is that people are stretched just trying to make ends meet. My secretary has two jobs (she is also an accupuncter practioner, her husband has two jobs and he is going to school. Believe it or not, that is typical for many families here on the islands.
The economy enslaves the people. Sad but true. For example, if one leaves in a cheaper area here on the islands they have to drive 1 to 2 hours one way to work in the hotels on the other side of the island. So 3-4 hours in a car every work day and all that gas to get back and forth. The electric company also gets their pint of blood. So between electric, car and gas one is easily paying $1,000 a month or more (and this is a place where most have no heat or airconditioner as the trade winds help cool off and the weather is generally warm. I point this out to illustrate how difficult it is to move forward toward building radiant zones given how financially, emotionally and time stretched many folks are. Think "entrapped within the matrix." So the issue becomes.. where does one even start to make a change? Most who are here at Avalon have a broader knowledge base then most folks. However, even when I share my plans with others here on the islands some shake their heads. I guess one could just pass on the Horizon Project YouTube links as a Christmas gift to family and friends in hopes they will watch and wake up.. however, having had to coordinate large groups of people from a grass roots level there are a number of ways to organize this type of project. One begins with building coalitions of like-minded people. This starts with a one-on-one exchange of information to see what the other person knows and to check out if they are interested. It can also start with a potluck dinner inviting family and friends over to watch the Horizon Projects DVD or Youtube links and then discuss what their impression is about the information they just viewed. I will say when building coalitions with strangers I would meet the person for lunch and take 1 to 2 hours getting to know them personally. This is called building the emotional bond and makes any future contact a lot easier. Grassroots starts small and builds. One can also build a growning informational base off of existing groups and clubs where educational presentations are given. Perhaps a focus could be on disaster preparedness. I just received a free packet on this information and DVD off the net. Only in a short presentation include that short clip from the Horizon Project at the end of the presentation and then ask.. If this information is true.. then what would one need to do weather these earth transitions? It is then that the concept of Radiant Zones is presented along with a plan of action and an infomational sheet with links on the net as to where information can be obtained. One can also easily access halls or provide these types of presentation in various educational settings. One could start with doing a presentation with the teachers and ask for their feedback. A small notice can be put in the free local shopping advertisement paper that goes out to the entire communitywith a community calender in it. Perhaps a good title would be "Disaster Preparedness and Creating Radiant Zones." It helps to build on structures which are already in place. Most of the radiant zones are being created by family and friends who already share a similar mindset. However, even in my own family my two adult children are just flatly in denial and there really isn't too much one can do for those who don't what to know other then provide a link or two suggesting it may be of interest; and that you would be interested in knowing their opinion if they do choose to view the links. Meanwhile, the other work starts at home. Gather info, download data and purchase what supplies you can that you think might be of use disaster or no. For example this is from eFoods Direct.com 800-810-4441: Amounts are listed per person per year. Store 30 lbs. of SUGAR or HONEY for each adult. Sugar is heavy and shipping costs are more than it's worth. Buy sugar at any local grocery store. Sugar is self-storing and generally does not spoil. Store about 100-200 lbs. of whole WHEAT in buckets per adult. Hard white or red winter wheat makes the best flour for bread. Avoid storing flour due to rancidity and infestation. Wheat, like sugar, is heavy to ship; but if you can't find it locally, please call us before your order ships. Shipping costs when shipped with a food supply order are minimal. Store 2 gallons of COOKING OIL- the same brand and the same size bottles that you are accustomed to using. Unopened cooking oil has about a 2 year shelf life. Store 10 lbs. of SALT and SEASONINGS in accord with your personal preferences. These are also self-storing. Store 6 lbs. of RAISING INGREDIENTS-baking powder 2 lbs., baking soda 2 lbs., and dry yeast 2 lbs. Replace these according to expiration dates. Year supply of food: Freedom $1682.00 Wheat Pkg 174.00 Garden Seeds 35.00 Berkey Light Water Purifier 100.00 E Grain Mill 259.00 Emerg Masks 39.95 bucket wrench to open 5 gallon pails Sub Total: $2290.90 We are also building our own Family Aquaponic systems to grow fish (Talapia and prawns), fresh fruit and vetetables: www.friendlyaquaponics.com http://www.friendlyaquaponics.com/We...lantsMar08.gif Meanwhile we have met with the Governor's Advisory Committee and various legislators to move the Aquaponic's project along sooner as compared to later. Building radiant zones begins within and expands outward. Finding others who share a similar vision is what a grassroots movement is about.. start with yourself, build from there and the others will come. |
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"We know the ground crew has been networking together and we would like to start identifying Radiant Zones where people are committed to working together as a COOPERATIVE."
Nice idea but I cannot even find one person to get together for the basics. All talk on the internet yet no one seems to want to take the step into real life. Getting whole communities to act together in their self interest seems to be an impossible task at least here in the Northeast part of the US. |
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celtic man-it could be due to the location, that you live in
i am in a big city too, near toronto i am taking big steps; starting next monday; to get out of here and, create something in canada cheers/susan |
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The guys can always start with a poker game and some chips and beer.. then put on the youtube short clip of the Horizon Project and get their take on it. Just start with what you enjoy and talking with those people. The Morman church has dozens of their own radiant zones as they have been preparing for years. So different church affiliations may also offer a means to pass on this info and the support for preparing little pockets of radiant zones.
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Hello Carol, thank you for starting this thread!!
Please feel free to edit any part of this post as you feel necessary. I have been designing a system for 4 years and am involved in setting up the logisitics for physical locations coupled with community communications for distribution of informational resources for each community center. I have imagined at least 200 centers over the US and where ever from there. I have figured out how to 'set up' a city and system virtually within days of finding a location in that city. I am looking for strong, knowledgable, and balanced individuals who want to help with organizing the logistics and then acting on moving forward with implementation in activating the project. It does cover the areas we are all concerned with however I am only an entreprenuer and am not specialized in the virtually infinite areas of resources that are needed for everyone. Some of these areas will not be publicly disclosed nor will they be obvious as to there helpful intentions right away. Both worlds, existing and new, are blended in for synchronizing the logistics, and in part include form of exchange of effort for form of exchange for effort, meaning some money is needed and in other ways no money is needed, but establishing a 'trade' system is part of this orchestration. Another aspect is co-ordinating with many other groups and similar arenas that people have innately desired to do themselves and want to contribute but most are limited in their resources. So feel free to post and contact your desire to participate. My site is just getting started www.justoneblackpearl.com though i am not intending to self promote this is a 'whole community' operation and you have started the ball rolling... Thank you:wub2: |
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I suppose yourself moving into a more rural area of Ontario or Quebec might be better for you. Nova Scotia might be good as they are away from the mainland if you have the money to relocate. Or even one of the middle provinces such as Alberta, Saskatchewan or Manitoba away from the capital cites but relatively close to the US border where the climate is still good for growing crops. Anyway, this according to some of the survivalist buffs I've read over the years state these are one of the "safe" places in the world. |
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Hello, Glad to see this thread.
The Angelite Center, north of Spokane Washington is where we held the first Pacific North West Ground Crew Gathering, and this spring there is intention to have another one. This Gathering is open to ALL. We feel this is in a fairly safe zone geographically, and the property is open to settlement by like minded people. There are a great many smaller communities being built as well in British Columbia: Nelson, Gabriola Island, Vancouver, Seattle, and Vancouver Island are starting to form social groups. I have been organizing these social gatherings for months. Anyone who is interested in attending meetings should contact me ASAP. I am also available to aid in social government structure which is based on nonviolent communication and consensus. I am happy to travel anywhere to do this. Peace of Mind, Wormhole |
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i have some friends experimenting
with growing lettuce indoors, and, it is working quite well ... and, tomatoes; indoors/or, in green houses to the outside of buildings--and; i could NOT believe, how they can actually extend the growing season in some places in the usa, you can definitely grow year round so, that is good not sure; what i think of south america and, africa, wish i knew more about africa |
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What would it take for a person to decide it's time to pack up and bug out?
What were conditions like in Europe pre Columbus, to persuade people to hop into ships and head off for the unknown? To risk certain hardships and unknown dangers? The illusion of normalcy must have quite a lulling effect. |
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Hi Myplanet2,
What drives people forward is the `unknown`. I left the UK years ago to find something new, to find and discover something different. The people who run from danger are moving backwards, in retreat. Those people are waiting for the situation to be unsupportable before they move to somewhere else to another supportable situation. So answering your question, the conditions in pre Columbus Europe are not important in the case of people hopping on a ship looking for the unknown. It`s the same as why do we try and discover more about space? Is the Earth in such a bad state that we need to escape, or do we want to be adventurous to find out more about what we don`t know? Best regards, Steve Quote:
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i am russling with the "you are safe where you are"
and, also having the credit and, the equity to create a learning/retreat/safe centre north of toronto - towards the areas that lie north/east of here & perhaps, as, far into pq ??? if anyone is in the toronto area/and, considering the ability to earn part ownership of a centre ? or, is willing to exchange reno work / for dollars ? or, is looking for a safe place to stay over the winter -- WHILE DOING THE WORK (note, this is NOT a friends with benefits posting!!!) just to be clear on that - but, rather a serious proposition that is work related ONLY as, it is a huge job for me to get out of here alone i would be interested in talking to them cheers/susan the eXchanger |
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I am interested in starting conversations with those in the So Cal (orange county and such) area thinking of preparations and somewhere to "go".
Your welcome to PM me putting it out there :thumb_yello: |
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People will do what they need to do in the moment.
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I agree people are so strapped for time and money living in the matrix that even if the spirit knows the need to prepare, the body is weak to respond to the impending changes. I started preparing about 7 years ago by buying 100 acre land in the Laurentian mountains of Quebec, Canada, and will finish a steel re-enforced concrete house soon (that's what I've been doing on weekends). I found it through a synchronicity after looking for over 6 months and almost giving up. My focus next year is to build a steel re-enforced underground concrete bunker with an above ground geodesic dome for common activities with some people I have known for a few years working full time. Some people here have expressed interest, and with time, some will make commitments, but I feel time is short, and I need to get going with people that I know.
I eventually like to form a community of spiritually like mind people, and a main concern is choosing people that will contribute and get along; it'll happen if it's meant to be. From all the information I've read (Dolores Cannon's Convoluted Universe has a lot of details), I feel both the new 5th dimensional earth and pole shift scenario are likely. The way world events are unfolding, I think it will be a challenge just to be organised and to be prepared enough to get to that transformational point. I know learning to grow food takes a couple of seasons, so would be interested to hear from anyone with those skills, and learning to adapt aquaponics for colder climates would be really useful. Susan, if you want to investigate or are guided to the Laurentians as a possible location, let me know if I can help. |
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susan is working to pack up things...
at least, all the things, that are destined for a healing retreat !!! (got an amasing array of awesome crystals/rocks/stones- native drums / rattles; etc.,etc.etc.,) (all the office records/hopefully to be housed in storeage, at my parents cottage-or, fit into a 5 drawer lateral filing cabinet) <grin> i am going to simplify my process call in 3 agents - and, ask them, as is, how much ...then, sell it privately j'parle une petit francias -- and, everyone smiles in the same langauge, so, i will be all set -- maybe, i should head to the belle province -- what is your nearest town ? cheers/susan |
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Here's the link to Ste-Agathe. You can shop by walking and sking is within 10 minutes.
http://www.ste-agathe.com/homeanglais.html |
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Hi Steven,you have a nice group there, and I don't doubt that your's is a radiant zone. It would be good to meet and share knowledge at some point. One reason for me to quit work would be to have more time; I'm a bit tire of the system and look forward to a new way of living. I also don't doubt that your timeline will be a smooth shift to the higher vibration.
I've heard and read many different scenarios before, but what is most interesting about Dolores information is that she is able to tap into the personal soul experiences of people. I'm finally came to a comfortable understanding of multiple timelines, so spiritual preparation will allow the body to raise it's vibration to evolve with the new earth. The geophysical changes are the birth pangs of a new earth, and is analogous to a cell splitting to form 2 cells. The people vibrating at the higher level will "go" with the new earth and will not experience a pole shift. The people staying on the old earth will not be so fortunate. It is a natural process of separation of vibrations; totally without external judgement and a consequence of ones thoughts/actions. Here's a link to a video that provides more info: http://www.maya12-21-2012.com/2012fo...p?topic=1303.0 Namaste, Wayne |
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Interesting that you mention Delores Cannon as I first came across her work in the early 90s and had a very nice long conversation with her due to my interest in the hypnosis technique she used to gather her information from different people during different periods in time (Nostradomus for one).
I do agree with what you wrote here "I'm finally came to a comfortable understanding of multiple timelines, so spiritual preparation will allow the body to raise it's vibration to evolve with the new earth. The geophysical changes are the birth pangs of a new earth, and is analogous to a cell splitting to form 2 cells. The people vibrating at the higher level will "go" with the new earth and will not experience a pole shift. The people staying on the old earth will not be so fortunate. It is a natural process of separation of vibrations; totally without external judgement and a consequence of ones thoughts/actions." as this fits with my innder sense of things to come. However, I've also had some other thoughts and interesting conversations with others that leads me to believe that perhaps following the last pole shift this earth was repopulated by ETs bringing to this planets other humans from other planetary systems. Hence the different races. I was also led to believe by a contactee that many missing children and people are already in other relocation areas off planet and will be brought back to this planet after the world has undergone its cyclic transition. Meanwhile, the Myan text referring to the harvestion of souls as the four corners of the planet rest on the galactic plane rift leaves pause as one is also subject to an interdimensional physical shift during the event. There are several well know books out there from remote viewers and those skilled in the practice of hypnosis who progressed a few thousand voluteers to the year 2012. The information extrapolated from these interviews is very interesting. All the remote viewers wanted to stay in the 2012 energy zone as it was a wonderful experience. However, those progressed had very different stories as some did not see themselves here after that day. So it makes one wonder as to the validity of Delores' information. She truly is a remarkable hypnotherapist. Meaning she may be more on the mark then most would suspect. |
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Sorry but I think it would be crazy to list all your zones. I large list of all the people trying to make a new life? Well, least the gov would find you a bit quicker eh ?
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My understanding is that many prophecies, predictions, including the Mayan's and the apocalypse describe well the timeline two. Which is not our timeline at this moment, but it's the one some Extratemporal ETs are trying to make us believe (in doing so, we attract it) knowing these ETs are coming here corrupting truth since thousand of years. Since these ETs are from the timeline two future, they want to intervene in our destiny to justify their own reality. Timeline one brings a future of understanding, cooperation, union, with major transformation in all life for the best good for all concerned. Timeline two is catastrophes whether amplified by the "artificial artifacts devices" Dan Burisch mentioned or/and the result of the Universal Laws drawing the current mass consciousness of humanity. The fact Hollywood is coming out with a doom and gloom movie entitled "2012" is telling much about this manipulation. The ones behind Hollywood are the ones following timeline two like a script. They are desperate to make it happen even if it is not our natural course. They want to hook their claws into the mind of the highest number of humans they can. To pull them in their fall into timeline two. Timeline two looks artificial to me. I do not feel it true. From my personal inner perspective. But it is just my personal view. Next time I go to Montreal, I'll pm you so we could meet if you want? Namaste, Steven |
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Are you fear based and live your life from a deeper sense of paranoia or are you free and live your life from joy, excitement and compassion?
We live in a world of infinite choices and experiences. The same can be said of emotions. If one chooses to live a life that is fear-based both experiences and choices are limited. For example, a few years back I had an ET encounter. Given the nature of the encounter and what occured I realized that there is "absolutely nothing" that can be hidden from their telepathic probing. The experience was both a surprise and a delight as there was no fear.. however, the experience was very revealing as to the nature of how limited we are as humans when it comes to our own ego sturcture and how we are manipulated by our own emotions if we choose to allow this to happen. Fear or freedom of fear? What would one choose for the type of life one would like to live in? What would you choose? I'm well aware that if one lives a life as an open book with no fear ones path is simplified. The reality is that if the government, or a person, or even ETs wanted to find something out about a particular person they most likely can or will. Personally, given what is coming down the road with earth changes I seriously doubt the government cares about radiant zones as they are so busy covering their own as*es they won't have the time, money or resources to track down individuals or groups while in the midst of earth changes, or even after-the-fact. Take for example, Katrina. Katrina was a huge wake-up call. When disaster strikes our own goverment couldn't even mobilize itself to deal with a known area of trouble. Now imagine that trouble in multiple places... What I see is that those government employees in secure places will head to their own underground bunkers (as the elder Prez Bush personally converyed to me) and let those on the surface fend for themselves. Basically, they really do not care about us in general unless we refuse to pay our taxes. Subsequently, I really don't care what they know or what they are up to as I have my own life to live and will continue to move forward doing what I think will be of benefit to my family and others. In truth, there is no such thing as a safe place in or on the planet given something like a pole shift.. or something like the Yellowstone Caldara going off and covering the earth in volcanic ash... or an astroid impact. All of this events have happened in the past and will likely happen again. Each of us can only do what we can do and join together building radiant zones so we can meet whatever challenges life has to present together in a state of mutual cooperation and harmony. I know this is possible because I've had the opportuity to stay at different spiritual centers, Buddhist Monestaries and been at various Sant Sangs (spiritual gatherings of thousands) at spiritual retreats. The energy of these settings is delightful. These people have made a commitment to a spiritual non-violent path. Being in these types of radiant zone settings is a joy as is watching how these people transcend ego and fear to join together in mutual partnership to coordinate these massive events of spiritual learning and enlightenment. Radiant zones already exist all over the planet. What makes many here at Avalon different is that they may be learning about radiant zones for the first time and are learning about how to build a radiant zone community that is preparing to with stand weather earth-changes. We at Avalon are looking at how to be self-sustainable without the grid. We are building our library to provide massive amouts of info to help survive should the grid go down and we end up being cut off from one another. Now think about this realistically. If the grid goes down.. really down, what is left electronically to track people? Does anyone here honestly think the government is going to care where folks are if they can't even take care of themselves... and let's not forget who many in the government are? These workers have their own families and when the sh** hits the fan, where do you think they will really be and/or head towards? Now let's take this the next step.. because the other element to take into account is the military. How mobile will they be if the grid were to go down? What about satillites? Would they even exist or be functional if an earth change event were to happen? If anything I think the military would be more prepared as there are many underground facilities already in existance. However, do you really think they would have the means to do much if an earthwide EMP were to happen? Furthermore, I can envision the possibility of many of them also deserting and heading to where their families are located as well. Personally, I think the lesson of Katrina is that it is every man or woman for his or herself. Meaning it is up to us, the individual(s), to determine the course of our own life and how we wish to plan out what we can, given what resources we have available to us during this window of time to prepare. The bottom line is that Avalon is about networking and providing information for those who already have accepted that we have a job to do here. That job is move forward with a plan of action to build small pockets of radiant zones to weather whatever comes down the road. Avalon is for those people who have taken the time to research possible future events and are now ready to implement their plan of action (witout fear) by building these radiant zones while there is time to purchase and/or gather what information is needed should the planet go off-grid. As I live on a tiny island in the middle of the Pacific, on top of the motherlode of all volcanos, does anyone here honestly think that the other people living here invests much time or emotional energy being afraid, or living their lives from fear? The answer is no, we don't. We have families and lives here. We look out for each other and help each other. This is our radiant zone. And we are now working toward building an infrasturctue that can exist if we are cut off from imports. Our first line of defense if making sure there is food. And it is because of just getting down to the basics of how to create sustainable aquaponic gardens that I've got no time to invest any energy in being afraid that the government knows what I'm up to, because as recently as last week I sat at the Governor's Advisory Committee and told them.. helped sell them on how we can make our tiny State self-sustainable food-wise. This is going to work and we will continue to move forward taking our baby steps to continue to build our radiant zone here in our own sulfer spewing volcanic backyard. So, I would recommend that those who want to go around spreading their paranoia, please leave. We have other things to do here other then read how afraid you are to let anyone on the planet know that you exist. |
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It's not about being afraid it's pure sense and self deffence. I went through town the other night and I saw a man hit another man in the face and knock him down. He was a small man and didnt have the power to win this fight. He wasnt fearful, he still got smacked and ended up in a mess. Lack of fear and all this peace and love isnt going to stop a freaked out pop drinker from hurting you.
I do understand your points but they arnt for everyone!! You are on a small island but many of us are not and need to be very carefull about the people we let the information to. This is not a nice world !! did you hear about the death and victims in that american wallmart? They where still shopping while a man was dead on the floor. Peace and love eh? Look don't get me wrong, I do love and I am peacefull but i'm not going to be stupid and risk my comunity with strangers that could very well invade due to thier poor skill at survival. p.s. we don't know for sure that planet x is coming!! what we do know for sure is that a massive depression is upon us and that most of the rich and city folk arnt going to have a clue how to survive!!!! So, we must protect ourselfs so our suplies dont get stolen. Or is it peace and love "stranger and take all I have saved for years?" pm networking and meeting via small groups is excellent but handing out your location and giving love is an invitation for abuse. peace Bobcat |
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"I do agree with what you wrote here.."
I was aware of Dolores with her "Conversations with Nostradamus" a long time ago too, and never really looked into her work. I came across her latest books in an unusual way, from my daughter (she lend me the first 2 of the 3 Convoluted Universe) who got them by herself, partly due to my efforts to get her to look into spiritually. She had an experience at a Tai-Chi demonstration by a master that I study under, where she saw parts of his body get fuzzy, as he went into a higher vibration. The information that came through Dolores' clients evolved with the times. She sees herself as a reporter and has an unbiased curiosity stronger than the fear of the unknown. The information evolved to ETs and she is getting more information on the New Earth because we are approaching closer to the time. She is told that she has proven herself to be trustworthy ( she followed their request that certain information was to be withheld until later). Her technique bypasses the conscious level, to the level associated with the "higher self"/ soul level. I know from experience that the conscious level colours the received information (too influenced by the personality); that's why channelled information is not so reliable. Apparently this shift of a whole planet has never been done before, so is quite a cosmic show. I don't doubt that this is associated with the 2012 galactic alignment which is creating a high vibration environment for this to happen. Some of Dolores' information you may find interesting: 1. Atlantis was an advanced civilisation helped by ETs to get started. They were mentally very evolved but not technologically. They abused their power and degenerated to a rather cruel society. The fable of the "magic carpet" as a way to travel with luggage came from their culture (they were able to levitate by mental power alone). They communicated through telepathy. They experimented with animal/human genetics to create mermaids, centaur, etc. and were able by group mental focus change animal faces to human faces before they were pitted against each other to fight in an arena for entertainment. 2. Your ET scenarios are told in her book. The important message from ETs is that the human race must not perish; They have invested too much time and energy to allow us to destroy ourselves. Scientifically, we ourselves have genes that don't exist on any other living thing on this earth; meaning that it could only have been inserted artificially. Its happened before where ETs have evaculated people off of the planet and waited for the earth to recover. Due to relative time difference, the short wait on the ships translates to thousands of years on earth. 3. With the dimensional shift, the body's higher vibration will cause it to glow as a light body; no death, younger and no aging (that should make a lot of woman happy). This transformation corresponds to the New heaven, new earth in the Bible. There's really a lot of interesting information in the books. Each is over 500 pages. As far as what a person's mind is capable of, here's a link to a video of a healer friend of the Tai-Chi master that I study with and he confirms everything in the video is real. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aos0hnwiHt8 |
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Bobcat, I agree that one is not to be stupid about survival. I was around in Oakland California gas war shortage back in the 70s when strangers were slashing tires of the fancy gas guzzlers and had to deal with criminals face-to-face and defend myself. Having grown up with an older brother was a huge advantage. However, having lived in the San Francisco Bay area for 30 years and then in rural areas where people pull out their guns and start shooting for driving up a dirt road has also been part of my life experience. Being smart is important when dealing with an infrastructure in revolt and/or breaking down. I can't even begin to tell you the number of times I've had to call the police to come and contain a situation and if I saw the situation you describe I would have had the cops on the phone within minutes of sighting what was happening.
Today we purchased 8 garbage cans on sale for 9 bucks each. These will be used to store food in and bury. We also bought some of our supplies for building our aquaponics system. The aquaponic food will be used for trade and barter. We also keep our passports handy and stay in contact with family and friends who live in other parts of the world. When making plans it helps to have several back-up plans in place in case Plan A falls through. The main issue is to do ones best, plan ahead, stay out of high risk areas and network. You may think I'm all love and light but guns and roses is what I grew up on. |
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Thank you for the link Northern Santuary. I'm listening now. Mahalo nui loa. :)
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Hi Carol, i'm sorry you have had to see it for yourself but i'm glad you undersand it.
cya later Bobcat |
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Next time I go to Montreal, I'll pm you so we could meet if you want?
Hi Steven, Sure.. I sometimes travel on business, but if I'm in town, it would be good to meet. I don't know if you're aware that there is an annual spiritual conference in Montreal, 9 days long. Dolores has been there for the past number of years. That would also be a good time to meet if you find the conference interesting. Here's the website for last year: http://www.iiihs.org/conf08/conferen...troduction.htm Namaste, Wayne |
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Hi Carol,
Please have Plan B ready and in place by end of March 2009. And contingencies ready by end of December. By contingencies I mean have two other people/families that each can depend upon to move in with should someone's location not be usable. That means getting to know two other people very closely very soon. In my county they just recently rounded someone with expired permits for their weapons. It was a permit for a hunting rifle that had expired. Law enforcement searched the house for the weapon to see if it was still there after tracking expiration dates on the permits. They now sit in jail with a $50,000 bond and are still in jail. For those of you not in the US this is violating the second amendment (right to bear arms), and several other sections that are now being ignored, including the US Constitution, Bill of Rights, etc.... This is not the only one I know of that has been searched, but the only one found with a weapon that had an expired permit. We all know why they expire and we know it has nothing to do with making the world safe. Lately, I was asked by Lakota leadership to help with a problem facing the Lakota which has serious ramifications. It makes me think, IF we have till late spring I will be delightfully surprised. Carol, folks will prepare directly proportional to their belief of the need to get ready. So, move on to the next person asap if you encounter resistance. AND be prepared to physically relocate a long distance. So for example New Jersey might have to move, etc... Pray, Prepare, and Meet .... the core purpose of this forum. |
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http://video.google.ca/videosearch?h...um=4&ct=title# Hope our path will cross sometimes in a near future, even if it is hard to me to leave my wife, two youngs boys and work, hehe. But synchronicity provides what is needed. Nmaste, Steven |
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Unfortuately, I only know one other person who checks out camelot and avalon and they don't seem to be prepared either for anything. I don't know what I'm going do as I am deaf and I am concerned primarily about my family. It's just not a good time. If we could just loot everything that we needed, it would be easier. The economy truly does enslave people and when it crashes, what do you think people are going to do? They're going to take what they can, while they can. It's a scary though.
I commend those who are able to set up radiant zones and ground crews. I will check out the vt ground crew thread but again, I do not know how widespread this information is within my state. |
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Aloha HumbleJanitor,
The Morman Church has always taught preparedness to their members. There must be something like this located near-by you. When one is isolated and does not have the means to set everything up my just oneself, joining an existing organization/spiritual group can often work out to one's benefit as there is an instant community already there and established over the years. Church members enjoy helping new members and are often very welcoming. Although I'm not a Morman myself, my brother is and I've always been very impressed with how organized and family oriented they are. I've visited some Buddhist monestaries which are also self-sufficient and a Francician Monestary which was self-sufficient. Get out your telephone directory and look under organizations, churches and community groups to see what may be available in your area. That is a good place to start. Please keep us posted with your progress. |
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Your martial art is interesting; it's only fairly recent that they teach that type of skill in the open. Because Atlantis was destroyed by misuse of the mental skills, there was a mental block that was created in the human psyche for their mental skills. It is only now that it is being rediscovered. Historically in the Chinese culture, people could acquire "flying skills", (actually any skill can be learned is the belief). I'll send you my personnel contact info for future reference. /Wayne |
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come on people. any northern calif people out there. its wouldn't take much to start a meeting place in the evenings. I for one am available. I live in the somona area.
I agree. to many people not awake. cant find any in my area. there are a few on the fence. but content with the idea obama has there back. I say we meet at a coffee house and start talking about all this. so far Im just donating my time at the community garden. its winter and I think I wont see anybody there till spring. hoping to meet people who are concerned with the state of the world. even if its to protest. :protest: its going to take a smoking gun to get people off there couches and away from there tvs. to busy with the matrix. Im so hoping it all does stop. Im tired of killing the planet. and each other. all the shady deals. the lies, we don't deserve to be here. A part of me doesn't want people to wake up. just let it burn. and another part of me said, we got to take the power back. but Im just not seeing it.. there are a lot of brainwashed americans here. :hypo: I think its to deep. you will never get threw to most folks in the states. beer in one hand and the remote in the other. what better way to keep control of the masses.. think about our schools and all the american propaganda that was drilled into our heads. and most of it was lies. but you cant tell people that. but its true. the bell rings. pledge the allegiance to the flag. most all that was tought was american history. I could go on and on and On and on and on. it will be a revolution of newagers and the christian fundamentalists. LOL!:lmao: Im starting to wonder if this isnt just a defecters page. making it easier to round us up. :shocked: |
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Sorry Carol that just struck me as such a powerful statement. :original: The Tempered Defiance that elicits change! |
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