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Agape 02-10-2010 12:01 PM

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There had been quite advanced civilisations on Earth long before our 'up-to-date' recorded history, the records itself point out that something has happened that wiped several flourishing civilisations away .

What do I mean when I say 'advanced civilisations' comparable to ours ?

It is not in the same 'appearance' of the civilisation, human society is very flexible and changes all the time . It is not the same technologies because science in general has too many ways , in fact.
But there were and always will be common logical points , mathematics is surprisingly easy to agree on even between far away civilisations in universe .

Human brain retains wonderful potential for abstracts but we are not able to 'manifest' them all in reality.

What did old Egyptiand believe in ? Similar to other old cultures on Earth, there was someone different in their midst. Was he different ? Probably somewhat yes because as we know, they did not vote for him in parlament.
Where did 'the pharaos' ( can be Inca in Peru, emperors in old China and Japan, great kings of old times tc. etc.) , godlike beings, where did they come from ?

They believed that the temple, the pyramids protect them . They were multipurposed, anyway . But one of the rather agreeable points is that they believed in Life after human life, in heavens so to say,
they believed in Goddess Maat to weight their heart on scale against birds feather , only those with light heart without debts were free to proceed with the journey ..
The point is freedom decision . Realisation and detachement to the earth and of course, not leaving debts behind.

Then , the pyramid was pointing to the Stars, that's where they actually, exactly believed the pharaos came from and the top of the pyramid was meant to be a passage , way out of here, a vortex, power structure, do you understand it better now ?
Using simple tools of maths, advanced physical hypothesis ( they are always present with us one way or another ), astronomy etc. they've actually tried to build ''the passage home'' for the guest, the pharao and his family and I suppose they also believed that if they preserve their bodies, they may be able to come back to them, one day, that was the promise .

You may doubt again how much precision was related to the guest, the pharao , Inca, Emperor, originally , that's too long ago but some of the old cultures still exist today preserving the tradition , even if it has no meaning anymore, the long term facts are passed and preserved .

Obviously, they were dropped here and did not have ship to fly out, else they would not need the pyramidal structures.

Egyptians as well as all of the old cultures were firmly aware of life in far away universe albeit being connected to life on Earth .
Temples, pyramids, were one of the attempts for 'connection', they could 'send signals' to the universe, using other 'technics' than we do right now, sound and light and mind power as well ..

However far away this understanding is from average citizen of 'advanced' society of today , surprisingly or not for some, 'they' had been here and the connection was preserved .

It is not always happening. It is not always possible, for our 'human society' experiences lot of chaos and distress right now, for example , and even if space technoloies enable other cvilisations to travel to here, the journey is still quite long ( compared to the time that passes on the Earth in the meantime ) . So, in earthly time measures, we may expect that once these visitors had been here in more palpable form and established living connection , then left or died out but , left here usually some ;gene pool' as well.
They've also promised to come back but again, how long it may take exactly and even if they are around right now, they do not dare to enter her perhaps, becaue , I repeat , we appear dangerous to them :naughty:

So, they try to find out how and what ways mankind can be guided and helped ..


A

THEWATCHER 02-11-2010 06:17 PM

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Office unable to place anyone here, work commitments dictate this. BUT I shall be data dumping here shortly. Thankyou, Barry

Agape 02-12-2010 08:52 PM

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By word of the truth alone this worlds will be shattered...sais holy scripture..

So hold your hats for whenever word of truth is spoken, the chains of this world are shattered,
but not its ties.

And then, the better world will shine through more vividly , in colors and rainbows ,
the old disputes will be forgotten..
people will sit on grounds with they lanetrns
( and sing kumbhaya) ...


:lol3:

Might be fever ..

A

THEWATCHER 02-13-2010 01:59 PM

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http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s...conference.gif

THEWATCHER 02-13-2010 10:46 PM

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Just received from Miles Johnston, DVD Bases 4. I can copy this and pass to any interested parties, spreading the word disclosure wise. Very interesting re the Irish Radio stuff, and yours truly is on there too, briefly LOL.

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s...BASES4DISC.jpg

Christo888 02-14-2010 01:10 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Agape (Post 236330)
There had been quite advanced civilisations on Earth long before our 'up-to-date' recorded history, the records itself point out that something has happened that wiped several flourishing civilisations away .

What do I mean when I say 'advanced civilisations' comparable to ours ?

It is not in the same 'appearance' of the civilisation, human society is very flexible and changes all the time . It is not the same technologies because science in general has too many ways , in fact.
But there were and always will be common logical points , mathematics is surprisingly easy to agree on even between far away civilisations in universe .

Human brain retains wonderful potential for abstracts but we are not able to 'manifest' them all in reality.

What did old Egyptiand believe in ? Similar to other old cultures on Earth, there was someone different in their midst. Was he different ? Probably somewhat yes because as we know, they did not vote for him in parlament.
Where did 'the pharaos' ( can be Inca in Peru, emperors in old China and Japan, great kings of old times tc. etc.) , godlike beings, where did they come from ?

They believed that the temple, the pyramids protect them . They were multipurposed, anyway . But one of the rather agreeable points is that they believed in Life after human life, in heavens so to say,
they believed in Goddess Maat to weight their heart on scale against birds feather , only those with light heart without debts were free to proceed with the journey ..
The point is freedom decision . Realisation and detachement to the earth and of course, not leaving debts behind.

Then , the pyramid was pointing to the Stars, that's where they actually, exactly believed the pharaos came from and the top of the pyramid was meant to be a passage , way out of here, a vortex, power structure, do you understand it better now ?
Using simple tools of maths, advanced physical hypothesis ( they are always present with us one way or another ), astronomy etc. they've actually tried to build ''the passage home'' for the guest, the pharao and his family and I suppose they also believed that if they preserve their bodies, they may be able to come back to them, one day, that was the promise .

You may doubt again how much precision was related to the guest, the pharao , Inca, Emperor, originally , that's too long ago but some of the old cultures still exist today preserving the tradition , even if it has no meaning anymore, the long term facts are passed and preserved .

Obviously, they were dropped here and did not have ship to fly out, else they would not need the pyramidal structures.

Egyptians as well as all of the old cultures were firmly aware of life in far away universe albeit being connected to life on Earth .
Temples, pyramids, were one of the attempts for 'connection', they could 'send signals' to the universe, using other 'technics' than we do right now, sound and light and mind power as well ..

However far away this understanding is from average citizen of 'advanced' society of today , surprisingly or not for some, 'they' had been here and the connection was preserved .

It is not always happening. It is not always possible, for our 'human society' experiences lot of chaos and distress right now, for example , and even if space technoloies enable other cvilisations to travel to here, the journey is still quite long ( compared to the time that passes on the Earth in the meantime ) . So, in earthly time measures, we may expect that once these visitors had been here in more palpable form and established living connection , then left or died out but , left here usually some ;gene pool' as well.
They've also promised to come back but again, how long it may take exactly and even if they are around right now, they do not dare to enter her perhaps, becaue , I repeat , we appear dangerous to them :naughty:

So, they try to find out how and what ways mankind can be guided and helped ..


A

Well agape I see what you're saying but there is some issues with this... the 'being dropped off and waiting part,' as well as 'once here build your way back' type scenario...

OK, can understand that but, without stargates and worm holes than space travel is going to be very time consuming with our current technology. It would take the space shuttle 37,200 earth years to get to the Sun, and sunlight only takes eight minutes to get here, so for any Space travel to be worthwhile squishing time only makes sense. And actually any local space travel approximately near earth would also be somewhat limiting if there was no stargates or wormholes to use ... once one is stuck in this vicinity then your stuck here until you can build your way out through technology and stargates, or buy some help from a few perceived friendly's.


"...and I suppose they also believed that if they preserve their bodies, they may be able to come back to them, one day, that was the promise..."


This is really interesting... in order to protect their bodies and possessions for a time until someone could come along and reanimate them, they had to create the 'Pharaohs Curse' upon all whom touch, steal, and tamper with their bodies and 'stuff'. So everyone on this planet whom has messed with their bodies and possessions are being effected by this 'Pharaoh's Curse' until such a time that someone can neutralize the curse (which has a time or not) or until such a time as someone can reanimate the mummy's in accordance with true understanding of the 'Rising Sun' for the right purpose.

The twining curse still wreaks havoc even on all those who come here from afar and no relief exists for the elite no matter what they tamper with there, or plan to do in spite of the curse; vibrations have no judgment.

Agape 02-14-2010 09:50 PM

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This is really interesting... in order to protect their bodies and possessions for a time until someone could come along and reanimate them, they had to create the 'Pharaohs Curse' upon all whom touch, steal, and tamper with their bodies and 'stuff'. So everyone on this planet whom has messed with their bodies and possessions are being effected by this 'Pharaoh's Curse' until such a time that someone can neutralize the curse (which has a time or not) or until such a time as someone can reanimate the mummy's in accordance with true understanding of the 'Rising Sun' for the right purpose.

The twining curse still wreaks havoc even on all those who come here from afar and no relief exists for the elite no matter what they tamper with there, or plan to do in spite of the curse; vibrations have no judgment.


As if I've said that myself BUT,

don't forget that the legend has true core but it it isn't exactly about Pharaos. And so and well, the 'curse of pharaos' is a mental construct , basically though very powerful and mind is a tool of power with all its energies and information spreads above and below ..this is unreal.

The legend sais that in times unknown before 'pharaos' beings who came here from stars and rested their wracks and bodies to the ground.

These 'places' were affected by high radiation levels , previously and protected by energy systems .

Those who came after them were barely 'guards of the underground lore'..


More later on, with best wishes


A:king:

Olam 02-14-2010 10:56 PM

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John Anthony West has a different view on the pharaoh mummies.
If you watch this amazing series about Eygpt
http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/magical-egypt/

In episode 5 he mentions how they mummyfied the bodies to make sure that the souls would NOT come back on earth. As if having ascended was the ultimate gift and previledge. By mummyfying the bodies, they made sure that it would be preserved in its final state, which was without a brain and organs, therefore redering the body unusable forever. This granted the pharaoh's a guarantee to never have to come back onto this lower plain.....
I highly recommend this series as it is most amazing.

Agape 02-15-2010 12:54 AM

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In either case, by simple mummification process ( not quite that simple but still occures in many different cultures spread through history around the earth ..besides Egyptian..
you can not preserve anything more or less than memory, also , biological memory , it's proved quite useful right now as they're able to read some of the DNA codes and it gives them certain amount of useful information ,

the movies about awakened mummies are fake of course . Ok, but what about stem cells and cloning ?

THE mummified body is a holistic pattern if you may , a trace . An imprint of Spirit , of the real Life form, to earthly bioshphere.
For the same reasons many other ancient cultures mummified their elders, Tibetan lamas or certain Brazilian tribes living in Amazon are just one example.

Thanks for posting the documentary link Olam, I will have a look and comment back later.


Just do not forget about 'evolution of human hypothesis'. The truth may not be fully known , may remain undisclosed openly in long time periods , it may be suppressed and cultural transposition of legend takes place that attempts to explain things the way they suit to some..
That's what is really happening, not recently, since very long time ago .

There's a lots of real-unreal transposition taking place in evolution of thought historically, in human society ..and it continues..one belief system evolves to another ..with help of your mind even, our mind ,
what is it to become yet no one knows for sure , it concerns not only faith and science , but global search for the big answers about mankind,
and till those are found, it's about believes.
'Egyptian belief system' is something once feeling as real as Christianity today , every belief system, even at its heights contains mystery.

What was not true that time can't be more true today but we try to discern what truth there was .

Sorry if I'm letting my tounge slip over cup of coffee

A:cup:

Olam 02-15-2010 01:48 AM

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Agape, I see you drink tons of coffee, or you are obsessed by it. So about your avatar.....is that how we get with that much coffee?:mfr_omg:

Seriously though, I know about that avatar, I had only seen a black and white version of it though. Did you get it on the back of the book?

Agape 02-15-2010 02:11 AM

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You can't become anything what you are not even with that much coffee ..

Master Yoda ?


A:naughty:

The truth that is within you is also out there ..

Christo888 02-15-2010 03:20 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Agape (Post 238476)
In either case, by simple mummification process ( not quite that simple but still occures in many different cultures spread through history around the earth ..besides Egyptian..
you can not preserve anything more or less than memory, also , biological memory , it's proved quite useful right now as they're able to read some of the DNA codes and it gives them certain amount of useful information ,

the movies about awakened mummies are fake of course . Ok, but what about stem cells and cloning ?

THE mummified body is a holistic pattern if you may , a trace . An imprint of Spirit , of the real Life form, to earthly bioshphere.
For the same reasons many other ancient cultures mummified their elders, Tibetan lamas or certain Brazilian tribes living in Amazon are just one example.

Thanks for posting the documentary link Olam, I will have a look and comment back later.


Just do not forget about 'evolution of human hypothesis'. The truth may not be fully known , may remain undisclosed openly in long time periods , it may be suppressed and cultural transposition of legend takes place that attempts to explain things the way they suit to some..
That's what is really happening, not recently, since very long time ago .

There's a lots of real-unreal transposition taking place in evolution of thought historically, in human society ..and it continues..one belief system evolves to another ..with help of your mind even, our mind ,
what is it to become yet no one knows for sure , it concerns not only faith and science , but global search for the big answers about mankind,
and till those are found, it's about believes.
'Egyptian belief system' is something once feeling as real as Christianity today , every belief system, even at its heights contains mystery.

What was not true that time can't be more true today but we try to discern what truth there was .

Sorry if I'm letting my tounge slip over cup of coffee

A:cup:

Why are you so sure that awakened mummy's are fake????:zip:

If DNA is the instruction manual than an animation sequence can be turned on and the DNA reawakened or re-animated!!! The 'Pharaoh's Curse' can be turned on and turned off, just as the animation of DNA can be turned on or turned off...

… two eyes only see a whole half of reality whereas the awakened mind uses the Whole of creation to manifest a reality only half visible.

An illusion is created by letting you see only half of reality.:wink2:

Teach society, especially the experts, just one side of the veil and the world will still be seen as whole but creation of reality will remain a mystery!:winksmiley02:

The irony is 'Hollywood' really is a magic wand to create illusion, and the magic wand of 'HollyWood' can be used to create reality through illusion.:lol3:

Agape 02-15-2010 06:05 PM

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Imagine there is freedom..Of course there isn't but a part of that freedom is in everything living, the expansion, intelligent design organizing itself to greater and greater complexity ,
how does it do it ?
How do you do :original: what you don't know you will do tomorrow because then you will know better ,
and your future shapes itself to something entirely complicate that now we are not able to grasp..
or for others, like going back home ?

Within that all it is YOUR mind , part of the cosmic intelligence fully responsible for its own life that will decide about future ,
and our 'global future' sustains of millions little futures..

Now lets say..on serious note..many information is to flood in yet , many experiments are yet to be done, lots of wisdom is yet to be learned
and many can be the ways of intelligent civilisation...awful lot and many.

If I'm to decide about my own future, it won't contain awakened mummies.

Or any similar...

A:original:

This world is already unhappy enough.....

Kari Lynn 02-15-2010 06:47 PM

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Will have to take time to read up on some of the theories of the pyramids.

It is known that humans mimic what they see to try and understand better. Such as a tribe in South America built a replica of a plane out of natural grasses and straw. They had never seen one up close, or ever flew in one, but see them fly over.

Perhaps the pyramids are much the same? The people of that time saw something in the air they didn't understand and built a replica of what they thought it was.

Such as a pyramidal shaped extraterrestrial ship that carries people beyond the stars to other galaxies,
So becomes a pyramid of stone on Earth that humans feel will carry them to another life fashioned after something extraterrestrial they saw in the sky?

Agape 02-15-2010 08:04 PM

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People have a memory of earlier earths , earlier Suns, of technologies they are painstakingly struggling to rebuild here and then,
before they destroy them again by their own foolishness .

Memories of magnificient buildings that can house everyone..of cities that can fly in space ..

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/l...o/ciudad-1.jpg


A

Jacqui D 02-16-2010 03:58 PM

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Olam, this makes sense to me i always use to think the opposite so they would have a body to come back to, but the theory you have mentioned here would be why they would remove organs etc; also the reason why a body goes into riga mortis!

In episode 5 he mentions how they mummyfied the bodies to make sure that the souls would NOT come back on earth. As if having ascended was the ultimate gift and previledge. By mummyfying the bodies, they made sure that it would be preserved in its final state, which was without a brain and organs, therefore redering the body unusable forever. This granted the pharaoh's a guarantee to never have to come back onto this lower plain.....
I highly recommend this series as it is most amazing.[/QUOTE]

Agape 02-17-2010 06:01 PM

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Guess you have noticed the breaking news in Egyptology occurring after King's Tutankhamons remains were analyzed :

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100217/...us/us_king_tut

"This is one sick kid," Egyptologist Emily Teeter, assistant curator at the University of Chicago's Oriental Institute, said after learning of the research. It shows that, based on DNA tests and CT scans, Tut had a genetic bone disease and malaria, which combined with a severe broken leg could have been what killed him about 3,300 years ago at age 19.

Poor little ET.

A

THEWATCHER 02-22-2010 04:06 PM

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22 copies of Bases 4 have just been sent, all those that requested, here and overseas, you will receive them shortly, spreading the word

THEWATCHER 02-27-2010 07:05 PM

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Please read this...............



http://alien-disclosure-group-tv.nin...tting-story-of

THEWATCHER 02-28-2010 02:55 AM

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A quote from James's non published book, "Agent buried alive"......



You can read hundreds of pages of proof of angels/watchers being physical ETs
in Andrew Collins book From the Ashes of Angels. Andy and Barry King were
good friends in the past, and before Andy became famous with his
groundbreaking book, they performed a ritual in a certain woodland in the UK
with another man. Their aim was to harness the power of the Watchers, and this
they did very effectively to cause themselves to go down in the pages of history.
Just after this, Andy’s book became a bestseller, and Barry King ended up
working at the AL/499 underground facility in Berkshire and met ETs face to
face.

Kari Lynn 02-28-2010 06:17 AM

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I am very familiar with "The Book of Enoch"
My grandmother and aunts on my dad's side of the family, as well as my dad, taught me alot about our religious beliefs, which probably is a bit different than most people, is why I don't like to talk about my own personal experiences, beliefs, etc... publically.
But much of what is touched on here, is what I have been researching lately.


I am curious as to this "ritual" that was performed in the woods. As I also was taught a ritual, of which I perform in the woods. I'm wondering if they are of the same teachings? Would you care to elaborate on that further?

THEWATCHER 02-28-2010 02:19 PM

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I'm sure I covered this topic some years ago, maybe on Casebooks. The third man was Graham Phillips, a parapsychologist whom joined our research team in early 1978. Graham was into the occult, magic, parapsychology in a big way, the Kabbala and a host of related topics. It was his idea of the ritual after 'speaking' with an old master of the Golden Dawn. The ritual was held in Epping forest late one Saturday into Sunday. cannot say too much but as stated it was most effective and our individual future courses were set.

Kari Lynn 02-28-2010 08:51 PM

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My memory fails me there. I guess will have to read again. I remember the 3 of you doing an interview though, and what happened afterward. ROFL.

May not be same ritual, will PM about that.

THEWATCHER 02-28-2010 08:58 PM

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Both Andy and Graham will not talk much these days about that event, as they are exactly where they wished to be in the future, accomplished authors

Fredkc 02-28-2010 09:00 PM

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Barry;

Since you are here and reading....

Let me take a sec to say I wish you and family better times.

Was saddened when you took leave, for a bit, and hope you can carry on.

But always, do what's best for family first.

With good thoughts,

Fred


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