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The trolls I'm referring to the ones that come here for the sole reason to cause trouble. As for everything else, that's up to the people involved. If they can't come to a resolution then maybe a mod should step in. We're adults who agreed to the forum rules. We may not agree to the rules, but by clicking that submit button we have agreed to follow the rules.
I'll know more if and when I get into a dispute here. |
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Yah. I'm always nice during disputes. It's the Canadian curse. |
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TtC published a private message from BROOK on a thread, did he not? What happened there?
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Seashore - I remember that. Brook actually made some comment about it at the time.
The issue was not pressed. The forum's treatment of Ttc - another dark episode of our history. Within two or three posts he was accused outright of trying to start a cult. A.. |
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What about the fact that TtC posted a private message on a thread - which is grounds for banning - not banning him - but banning francie? What's the rationale? |
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Seashore,
the moderators are not consistent. You can work hard at prooving that but you dont need to, I will admit it right up front. What we do, is try our best. What's the rationale? Probably context and what was disclosed and what else was happening at the time. A.. |
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What was disclosed was the Truth. It's really time to let this rest and allow Francie back.
Please :wub2: |
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In order for a forum to progress in a particular direction ie positive or forward, there must be a mechanism in place to stop it slipping in the wrong direction. |
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Mods....I am coming from a users position here even though I am a systems admin in the real world.
I don't like second guessing anyone and I understand in the admin world we do things that we are told to do and asked not to question. I read back over the last posts of Francie....Was she banned for what is here or something that was removed??? Thanks for any response. |
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My response was in reply to your first post in this thread about members running the forum themselves. I am a new member here so can't comment on any past actions by members or mods without searching for and reading up on the case history. My leniency quote was directed at thread i read yesterday concerning a member who suggested all homosexual people are pedophiles. The thread ended with a 7 day ban. Sorry for any confusion. |
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I am sure there are lots of private messages that contain "truth". I get told the truth a lot in private messages. I just had quite a lot of that today - unpleasant truths. I won't be making any of this truth public just because its the truth. The system we operate in deserves us to respect that PRIVATE MESSAGES are private unless permission is given to make it public. A.. |
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The subject matter contained in the email posted by the banned member in question was alluded to by Bill Ryan as justification for his position taken in a debate on a thread. Debates have two sides and do not get resolved if only one side is fully presented. Shutting out the other side is not going to end this debate. |
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Interesting debate... I haven't read anything posted by Francie, so I can't comment on those issues. However, being an unfortunate (or maybe not) participant in the Tokyo Rose paedophilia thread, I would like to commend the quick action taken by Karen and Anchor.
This being said, I'm quite dubious the 7 day ban is sufficient. My point being someone like Tokyo Rose who so openly condemns/judges others living by different rules will most probably strike back in one form or another once he/she returns. The debate on so called trolls is important for the future of this forum. Do we want to allow hatred of others and preconceived ideas to pollute our conversations here? I.e. do we really want to talk about separation? Wasn't the creation of this area initially motivated by the concept of togetherness? Everyone is entitled to their own ideas, however no one wants/deserves to be slapped and kicked in the face because of who they are, how they live, or what they believe. The moderators are a primordial part of this forum. It's not acceptable to me to ignore blatant hatred and disrespect. I like to stand up for myself, for who I am. Don’t you like doing the same for yourself? Should we not stand up for what this forum is all about? Well, that's my 2 cents worth. ;-) |
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- forum membership becomes invite only - it is still free to join - it is still read-only to non members - if the invitee fails to comply with forum guide-lines 2 people get banned = the invitee and the inviter Implementing this might help...but it will reduce the "diversity" |
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It seems that people on the forum are using the word "troll" to refer to anyone who is difficult. And again, I think all of us members (including me of course) need to work on how we respond to posts and not look to moderators to ban unpleasant people from the forum. |
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In my opinion, Project Camelot and Project Avalon are a part of alternative journalism. Therefore, I feel that those who are in decision-making functions at Project Camelot and Project Avalon have a responsibility to protect free speech.
In my opinion, the banning of franciejones is a free speech issue because the sequence of events leading up to the action taken against her involved a very public issue of importance: is Dr Bill Deagle a paid disinfo agent? This post on my part is to register my protest for what I feel is improper stifling of healthy debate about an important public affairs issue. |
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Sometimes this technique is used to disrupt, but mostly it is by someone playing head games with others, or attempting to attract attention to themselves or to validate their positions by bullying. "Paid parallel government agents" are much in the minority of trollers on net. The PC mods are not trying to suppress anyone's free speech other that attempting to keep the discussions here civil and somewhat on focus. |
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This issue has not gone away – despite the deafening silence. |
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