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Olam 09-20-2008 02:04 PM

CERN problems....thank our ET friends!!
 
So CERN is down, they experienced a dramatic temperature increase that seems to have melted some key magnets. They mention that they don't know how this happened....
You would think that these smart people and all the money involved here would at least know what happened!
So Im thinking this could of been done by our benevolent star friends that do not want this event to happen...they won't let us play God.
Anyways, thats great news as far as Im concerned.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7626944.stm

Nik 09-20-2008 02:06 PM

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I found the news quite funny... After so much controversy, it does not even start up properly! :lmao:

Perhaps the combined intent of so many people also had its effect, hmm? ;)

arcora 09-20-2008 02:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Nik (Post 21848)
I found the news quite funny... After so much controversy, it does not even start up properly! :lmao:

Perhaps the combined intent of so many people also had its effect, hmm? ;)

It started up fine.

They experienced something that they didn't anticipate. They don't understand the forces that they're trying to learn about.

Again, it's like a 3 year old learning about electricity by sticking a fork in a light socket.

rhythm 09-20-2008 02:58 PM

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its a bit of a concern at cern , sorry am i just seeinr it in the negative , bring on the unieied field love you all rhythm x:wub2::wub2::wub2:

motov 09-20-2008 03:29 PM

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there could be some big "Power" staling this project, if true this leads me to an troubling thought... this machine must be as dangerous as the protesters think it is...:shocked:

Shellie 09-20-2008 04:11 PM

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New technology rarely works the first time around. I am surprised that the initial tests actually worked. The fact that it heated up two degrees more than they wanted isn't a very big deal.

arcora 09-20-2008 06:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 99Boogies (Post 22001)
New technology rarely works the first time around. I am surprised that the initial tests actually worked. The fact that it heated up two degrees more than they wanted isn't a very big deal.

It was tested for years before becoming operational. The start date was delayed years because of problems with the initial tests. All systems were supposed to be go.

The way I read it is that 100 magnets overheated by 100 degrees celsius. Two of the magnets melted and tons of liquid helium were released.

mntruthseeker 09-20-2008 06:43 PM

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I love it when this happens :lmao:


blows their minds worse then what ever else they choose to sniff up it

2infinityandbeyond 09-20-2008 06:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by arcora (Post 22162)
It was tested for years before becoming operational. The start date was delayed years because of problems with the initial tests. All systems were supposed to be go.

The way I read it is that 100 magnets overheated by 100 degrees celsius. Two of the magnets melted and tons of liquid helium were released.

hahaha! i could just imagine all the scientists running around pulling their hair out screaming in high pitched squeeky voices

scanner 09-20-2008 06:53 PM

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GOOD ONLY COST 1/2BILLION OF UK TAX PAYER MONEY.WORTH EVERY PENNY:mfr_lol:

lemsip 09-20-2008 07:40 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mntruthseeker (Post 22165)
I love it when this happens :lmao:


blows their minds worse then what ever else they choose to sniff up it

has anyone checked the fuse ?
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lemsip 09-20-2008 07:42 PM

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has any one checked the fuse ?

lemsip 09-20-2008 07:47 PM

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good luck cern everyone at avalon salutes you

iainl140285 09-20-2008 08:54 PM

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Reset button?? lol

Tech. school - Protocol 1. Swith it off/switch it on.

Never fails :):roll1:

arcora 09-20-2008 09:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lemsip (Post 22230)
good luck cern everyone at avalon salutes you

Please count me out of that salute.

Scientists driven by hubris and putting the planet in jeopardy don't get my support.

Free-UFO-Videos 09-20-2008 09:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Olam (Post 21843)
done by our benevolent star friends that do not want this event to happen...they won't let us play God.


Good, because I dislike the recent project from CERN.

A few rich secret humans keep health secrets from everyone.
A few rich oil barons ruin the planet keeping basic vehicle propulsion technology from everyone.
A few rich company owners manufacture products to wear out quickly so we have to keep manufacturing shoes or car tires, etc, far sooner than normal.
The same mafia types are involved in rampant drug, sex, and weapons trade.

And I personaly know several corporation types that are just idiots.

If I was an advanced benevolent star being ...
I'd shut down CERN, disable ICBMs, and disable Nuke Power Plants, etc.
And keep waiting to see if peoples level of love and care evolves.

Besides, it may not even be "benevolent star friends",
it could even be the owners of black triangles
doing the re-abduction of abductees.
Taking proper care of this planet
with their technological and intellectual achievements.

A good olde upgraded scalar weapon would do miracles to a CERN Large Hadron Collider magnet.
:naughty:



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Orion11 09-20-2008 10:24 PM

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well, since they tell us the Truth about everything else.. we should just go ahead and believe that its not working... right?

My first thoughts when I heard it were " maybe someone else is keeping it from working" .. like some of your thoughts.... maybe its our mates from space.... lol
then i thought...

shouldnt everyone should take into account, that these people know about the controversy around this project.... and are going ahead and playing god anyway... and telling us they are not, for anything that it causes.. wont be blamed on them because "its not even working".

I realize we shouldnt always look at the negative side.. and thats not what Im doing...

but we should all know by now not to just take their words and run with them.

I thought it was usually..
"whatever they tell you, theres a good chance you can expect the opposite". lol

we shouldnt all just right away say.. "Ohh yay, its not working, maybe our friends are helping!!"

hopefully they are, but i thought we were getting away from blindly listening to everything we are told by these people.

anyone else feel me?
or no? , either way is cool. jus sayin. lol
maybe im whacky i dunno. :bleh:

Peace (/|\)

arcora 09-20-2008 10:32 PM

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My first thoughts upon hearing this were "What did they create/do that they didn't expect?".

What are they not saying??

Nyssa 09-20-2008 10:40 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Olam (Post 21843)
So Im thinking this could of been done by our benevolent star friends that do not want this event to happen...they won't let us play God.
Anyways, thats great news as far as Im concerned.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7626944.stm

I dont get all the negativity around CERN. It's great, it's learning. It's just expanding our awareness. "they won't let us play God".... everyone is god, you play it anyway...

There's nothing you can discover that can harm you. Discovery frees you. In my opinion they should try find out as much as possible, and they will even if people disagree.... when you stop looking you stop growing. Even if it was like 3 year olds trying to find out about electricity by sticking a fork in the socket, they'll learn quick :naughty: Then they'll learn more.

I find it exciting.

Better than sitting around doing nothing, they are actively persuing expansion to the limits of their knowledge. It's GREAT!

I think as social consciousness we have had a lot of conditioning to not look and expand ourselves. Stay in your little box and judge everything around you, stay seperate, never learn, never progress, never change... but this is the cause of so much of the suffering inherent in society. The little box is f***ing miserable. I'd rather blow up than not change :naughty:

Closing comment.. don't just inherently judge this as being 'bad' and cut off any possible growth, open your mind to the possibility that this can uncover grand new wisdom, exciting knowledge, which can lead to even grander realities and discoveries.

We should be supporting this!

Nyssa 09-20-2008 10:44 PM

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It's like people want to protect their ignorance to the death.

Orion11 09-20-2008 10:48 PM

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and you know their intentions?

this could cause alot of bad stuff.... and , what if they discover secrets of the universe.. You really think they are going to share them with the world? doubt it.

we dont know their intentions, thats the thing.

and these things arent usually done with everyone else in mind.. its usually for themselves.

let them benefit from it, while whatever happens to everyone else due to it,
happens.
oh well. they got what they were in it for.
Now its up to everyone else to deal with, and clean up whatever mess they make.

Hopefully thats not the case..
but c'mon, thats how 'they' work.
why would this be any different?

shouldnt support something your only given very little info on and dont know much about.
especially when it could cause the HUGE problems that this possibly could.

Orion11 09-20-2008 10:51 PM

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Quote:

Closing comment.. don't just inherently judge this as being 'bad' and cut off any possible growth, open your mind to the possibility that this can uncover grand new wisdom, exciting knowledge, which can lead to even grander realities and discoveries.
i agree. dont just judge it as being Great, either.
be aware at least.

and again.. chances are whatever Earth shattering (no pun intended) discoveries they make...

most of us will not be told about them....

gotta be real man..

Nik 09-20-2008 10:57 PM

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Right, so this is what you said:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nyssa (Post 22459)
There's nothing you can discover that can harm you. Discovery frees you. In my opinion they should try find out as much as possible, and they will even if people disagree.... when you stop looking you stop growing.

Meaning, you do not find the following a contradiction:


http://www.vw.vccs.edu/vwhansd/HIS12.../Hiroshima.jpg

http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2004/...b__430x323.jpg



Right?


Care to rephrase your text?

Angelo 09-20-2008 11:05 PM

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people @ cern:

already tried: Ctrl+Alt+Del ?:lmao:

Nik 09-20-2008 11:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Angelo (Post 22493)
people @ cern:

already tried: Ctrl+Alt+Del ?:lmao:

Maybe they have a case of lolcats?

http://icanhascheezburger.files.word...r-computer.jpg
:mfr_lol:

Orion11 09-20-2008 11:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by arcora (Post 22444)
My first thoughts upon hearing this were "What did they create/do that they didn't expect?".

What are they not saying??

:wink2:
:wub2:

prem 09-20-2008 11:43 PM

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This is complete rubbish.
It is a scientific experiment. Just the human understanding of science put to test. What is the link of this experiments temporary failure and ET? You people are really sick. Hope you all see a good Doc before posting anything further. I see this like kids talking about something and relating something. Grow Up. Humans made a mistake in building a machine. That is a human nature. There is nothing for an ET to anything. Hope you all believe what you hear/read. Read some science books. Learn about absolute zero and super conductivity. Also know the difficulty. Its not a easy task. Any one will make a mistake there. And so it happened. Stop the crap of posting your own thoughts. Lot of posts are like this. I need to go through and comment them when i have time.

hmm.

Orion11 09-20-2008 11:48 PM

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must have come over from ATS or something hmm?

yea you go and comment on every thread you disagree with..

wow.

who needs to seek help?

dont get so bent.

its not healthy. lol

Nik 09-20-2008 11:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by prem (Post 22532)
Stop the crap of posting your own thoughts.

Ahahahahahahahahahahhahaha!!!!!! :D :D :D

I might include that quote in my forum signature..

:welcomeani:

Orion11 09-20-2008 11:54 PM

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Quote:

Stop the crap of posting your own thoughts.
lol, i agree in some ways... your ppl skills could use some work though.

but, you should learn the meaning and uses of a "forum" lol

broken_sword 09-20-2008 11:56 PM

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it could have something to do with the 10 trillion degree plasma cloud surrounding the collision site of two atoms............. maybe, maybe not..:sneaky2:

FrostyMcunicron 09-21-2008 03:29 AM

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Clearly these are the type of people that earn your trust & confidence.. I'd be a little surprised if ET's had to intervene on this one, mankind seems to be perfectly capable of shooting itself in the foot on a daily basis if need be.

strayslack 09-21-2008 03:37 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lemsip (Post 22230)
good luck cern everyone at avalon salutes you

Count me out as well. I think it's abominable that billions were sunk into this crap. Take a 5 hour flight south of that place and you'll see kids who haven't eaten in days.
I believe that very soon our world will change drastically, and our level of knowledge will increase exponentially, so this is a gigantic waste in my opinion.

arcora 09-21-2008 03:43 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by prem (Post 22532)
This is complete rubbish.
It is a scientific experiment. Just the human understanding of science put to test. What is the link of this experiments temporary failure and ET? You people are really sick. Hope you all see a good Doc before posting anything further. I see this like kids talking about something and relating something. Grow Up. Humans made a mistake in building a machine. That is a human nature. There is nothing for an ET to anything. Hope you all believe what you hear/read. Read some science books. Learn about absolute zero and super conductivity. Also know the difficulty. Its not a easy task. Any one will make a mistake there. And so it happened. Stop the crap of posting your own thoughts. Lot of posts are like this. I need to go through and comment them when i have time.

hmm.

Do you know what a strangelet is?

Nobody knows because nobody - including the scientists at cern - has ever seen one or interacted with one. Nobody there knows exactly what they'll do when created here on earth.

But they do agree that they'll be created.

Theories from physicists around the world abound on what will happen when one appears at cern. Some believe that a strangelet may gravitate to the center of the earth and change gravity. Others believe that they'll make the earth a barren wasteland.

These aren't crackpots. These are Nobel prize winning Physicists theorizing this.

The guys at cern admit that they'll probably be created and that they don't know what will happen when they do. They have computed the probability of global disaster as "within an acceptable range".

What is the acceptable probability of destroying the planet or even the solar system?

These guys do not know what they're tinkering with - and they admit it. This isn't some simple scientific experiment and it isn't about egotistical physicists playing God. It is about egotistical physicists putting our entire planet in jeopardy so that they can see what happens when they mess with forces that they don't understand.

They're doing all of this to settle decades long arguments about whose theories are right and whose are wrong.

It's also entirely possible that they'll discover quantum matter or phenomenom that they've never even imagined yet. Quantum Physics is a relatively new science. Theories and knowledge have increased dramatically since this was even first planned - already forcing them to recalculate and retheorize what will happen when the particles start smashing.

It's really important to understand that this isn't a bunch of superstitious villagers with pitchforks in hand demanding that they shut it down. The guys who are arguing about the effects of this thing know more about particle and quantum physics than anyone here. They can't agree on the level of danger - but they do all agree that there is danger.

Unfortunately they don't tell you that on the cern press releases.

Slim 09-21-2008 06:47 AM

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Sorry to everyone else here... but.....
Nyssa, sorry that you are an Aussie like me, you are very short sighted.
Hope the black hole gets you first.
Prem, you are a clown, and i hate clowns.
If you are so close minded, what the hell are you on this site for??????
Actually, that goes for both of you.
Be careful what you wish for, it might come back and bite ya on the bum.

For once,
No cheers from here,:mad3:
Slim.

Uwe 09-21-2008 07:46 AM

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this experiment is financed by taxpayers money and as long as people are homeless and dying of starvation the priority is wrong!

No one can change the past but you can change now and make a brandnew ending!

Sorry for my broken english. :wink2:

Uwe

Mr X 09-21-2008 07:48 AM

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I'm just glad this thing didn't get on line at full strength! Better cautious than being devoured by a little baby teeny tiny black hole.....:thumb_yello:

Chinderland 09-21-2008 04:12 PM

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I am not sure if the problem has anything to do with ET's. However, I do have a few questions about the CERN and this experiment:

1) What kind of benenfits will this experiments bring to human beings, if compared to the risks and costs of it? There are some scientists arguing that the security of the experiment have not been well thought out. I know the probability of a growing black hole is very small based on our current understanding of physics. But what if human understanding is very limited or even wrong on the black holes?

2) Who invested in the experiment? I mean, CERN got the funds to do so, but from where came the money originally? Trace the money and we may find out those ppl or groups who want the (supposed) findings the most. Anyone got some clue on the sources of money?

3) Who will benefit from the findings of the experiment? To believe that it will bring well-being to human kind as a whole, one must assume that human society is equal enough to distribute the benefits to the majority of the species. But are we that equal now??

And finally, 4) Why this experiment now? Why in such a hurry to bring it on now?? Considering all the pressing problems (social and economic) we face on this planet, what will this experiment bring about to solve those problems?

It's a bit like a bunch of ppl want to light a camp fire on the wooden ship in which we are all sailing. They tell us: "Don't worry. The likelihood for the ship to be burnt out is extremely small, despite that the possibility is there and the consequence could be dire."

I would say to them: "Why not wait for a bit longer until we build a small boat for you guys, so that you could carry out the firing experiment on that boat a few hundred yards away from the ship? The likelihood for your boat to be destroyed by the experiment is very small, anyway...".

Peace to earth.

crowbird 09-21-2008 04:36 PM

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Greetings :original:
It is quite possible that it could be our Broters and Sisters (good spacebeeings) from higher dimension at work here. They have made it crystal clear that they will not tolerate destruction of this planet to.... thou this regarding nuclear weapons
The destruction of planet Mallona (Maldek), now the asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter, was far more than enough. At that time, the good space beeings warned the people on Mallona many times that if they continued to fight eachother, it would lead to the destruction of their planet. They (spacebeeings) did not stop this beacuse of the law did not allow them to stop it. This law is changed, no they can and will stop those who try to destroy planets. They (Mallona) were testing some very powerful weapon that destroyed Mallona.

I don`t have much info about Mallona, so if someone has info about Mallona, i`m intersted in it.
Thank You :original:

Free-UFO-Videos 09-21-2008 09:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Nik (Post 22482)
Right, so this is what you said:

Meaning, you do not find the following a contradiction:

http://www.vw.vccs.edu/vwhansd/HIS12.../Hiroshima.jpg

http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2004/...b__430x323.jpg

Right?
Care to rephrase your text?


Nice post, and remember the 62 school children in Zimbabwe/Africa some years ago (before the enhanced government problems) saw Extraterrestrials, and the ETs said we humans are getting too technological too quickly before becoming wise and caring and loving.

And it reminds me of the recent QUOTE :
"What in your history seemed ridiculous or improbable has often become possible, then realised, in particular in the last fifty years. Be aware that the future will be even more surprising. You will discover the worst as well as the best. "

"Until recently, mankind lived a satisfying control of its decisions. But it is losing more and more the control of its own fate because of the growing use of advanced technologies, which lethal consequences on the earthly and human ecosystems become irreversible."

And most all people think the ET matters are not important !!!?




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