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Originally Posted by milk and honey
Thankyou for your reasonable words Josefine and for your change of mind dayzero.
I suppose there is nothing sweeter to the human ear than the sounds of agreement.
Sorry if it seems troubling or intrusive but like Guatama, i'm also trying to define the middle way - which is the high vibration at the center of Being - and acknowledge also the blocks or the low vibrations of anti-Being.
The reason i find this kind of discourse attractive is because most of us read infornation from various metaphysical teachers and rarely ever stand them side by side to see how they compare and contrast. I find there are so many inconsistencies between them that they need to be talked about. Some are resolved when language is made clearer and some are not because they're simply not true.
Comparisons are valuable right 'here' and 'now' (whenever and wherever assertions of truth are made) because alternatively comparisons can only be made by perusing divergent web sources at different times. Consequently, our understanding of the differences are duller than they might otherwise be. This archipelago of sources allows some teachers to take truth into a tangent that can only stand on the foundation of it's own internal 'logic'. But when a light is shone apon it from outside the box it's limitations become clear. If it's limitations are constistent and carefully pre-concieved then motive may even be deduced.
In the interest of spiritual enquiry i hope we can continue the way we are.
Love and thanks to all for the opportunity to talk.
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You sound off like a true Besserweisser! On your High Horse. Where is the humility of Guatama?
To state that some of Krishnamurti and Parsons statements do not reflect reality, but are personal beliefs is illogical: If some thought represent their reality and their belief, it is a reality for them. Faith, on the other hand, is the deep trusting that is beyond beliefs and beyond words. If their beliefs lead to Faith, that is all they need for the journey. There is NO police authority that demand to know: How did you arrive to a state of Faith?
For your information: My basis has matured over a lifetime. I have not left one stone unturned in order to get to what constitutes truth for me. The flaky corners of New Age and the Internet have not contributed to my integration. I have some deep direct sources and some of it is not yet in written form.
Buddhism is at least as fractured as Christianity, so you most likely have plenty of these kinds of discussions among fellow Buddhists. You have more in common with certain narrow Christian sects than you might know, who think that God and En-Lightenment is only accessible if you follow OUR recipe. That is what happens when teachings freeze into dogma. This is in fact, the dividing line between Spiirituality and Religion. Remember our first disussion on that theme?
The term Anti-being is a sheer construct. In the All-Oneness there is only Being in all its myriad forms. There is NOTHING that is not of God! How could it be? The ONE comprises the Light and the Void and EVERYTHING in-Between. You may bless it or you may curse it, those are your choices.
Guatama was all about walking the path, beyond defining it. The defining started when he had left and the followers started squabbling. This is the typical problem with all religion, after the inspirator leaves, it decays into staleness.
At some point you just have to let go and allow that maybe your little corner of heaven is not all of Heaven.