[Czymra]

Originally Posted by sun-toon´

I think I've said enough on this subject for now. I don't really have a problem, but I'm irritable, and I can see how something that may seem to promote congeniality and decorum can have far reaching negative implications.
This all started with a comment about the word masking tool, and now leads to this final statement: If the local PTB is first and foremost interested in finding solutions, they'll stay out of the way and encourage the widest and wildest discourse possible. The problems we face are far deeper and more profound than any of us can grok, and most of what's being discussed is tangential at best. Right now much of our planet's evolution is tied to a few people having their non-local memories activated piece by piece, and those pieces can come from anywhere. People who think outside of the box naturally tend to be uncomfortable in a setting of rules and restrictions, and IMO it's from outside of the box that the solutions will arise. The local PTB should be working to attract those types, not drive them away.

Fair enough, I still don't quite understand your concept of local PTB however. Tag some terms on it so I can imagine something concrete please.

Although that doesn't seem to be the case in reality. There is leadership and it's leading no matter what they call themselves.
I have no problem with leaders, but leaders are not necessarily authorities, and authorities rarely have the insight to lead intelligently, otherwise they wouldn't need to be lording over others, enforcing what they've invented as "the rules". We're not in the army, though an army we may be. There are very few real rules, and true leaders only need to help others understand them. The proof of that understanding will manifest and educate as it always does.

Well, it's a funny one. I too think that there will always be some that drive a project on. They may not be permanent or have force beyond their charisma and skill but they exist.

Well, the humility issue is only a part of it, and not the biggest one at that. I'm more interested in how deep so many are into their new age, old age, esoteric and magical studies, yet have skipped the basic lessons of integrity and impeccability. It's amazing how many metaphysical and mystical personalities, some of whom have actually acquired a great deal of far flung and valid information, still haven't learned not to mistreat their wife or cheat their business associates. We are what we do, not what we say.

This just hasn't gone down with me yet. That's when I get irritable... 'spiritually advanced' people abusing their social position. Go figure.

Anyway, rock on. It's good to have you here.