In response to WinterWolf:
Please don't be offended by what I'm posting and I don't mean to pick on you. You just happen to have the most to say at the moment.
I'm not offended, believe me. Usually people determined to do something, get "lots of attention". I will take that just a strengthening factor. There is a saying, when you want do something, DO NOT TELL ANYONE. Because many will be find, telling and assuring you, that what you want to do, is impossible.
Do you think all of those pioneering spirits who trekked out west to make a home for themselves really had any money? They built their homes through the sweat of their labor..cutting down trees, tilling the land with the tools they had...making bricks for their walls from clay.
What you need is land to build on and supposedly Ttc has it.....
If you wish to live free etc then live off of the land. The Native Americans did it.
You seem not anchored in reality WinterWolf. That story, was going on in 1800's, when the pioneers were stealing the land of those that "live off of the land"; just check the history books. The rest with sweat and everything, who says will not come into place? I just said the money are mandatory just to start constructing the RZ. Buying land, materials, etc. Also the
Perhaps looking at how the Amish live and have prospered over the years can be looked at. Here's a handy link.
http://www.800padutch.com/amish.shtml
Good, I much appreciate the Amish society and their survival stamina unaltered for hundreds of years. Much is to be to learn from them and from Native Indians.
The internet has a vast wealth of information for anyone to find anything needed for their survival.
Yes, but will be for no much help if somebody needs something in rush, as we see today bad things happening at fast pace, in the world. The whole point is to collect information from skillful people, information that is granted to be valid by their own expertise; we are not discussing something similar such advertising for survival kits, from internet. This is the whole point WinterWolf, I'm sorry you missed it. I think this is you wanted Mudra, in the first place, right?
Noah and his famous Ark. Why did I feel like this would come up? 
Because you know you discuss with higher IQ people. Anyway this forum will discourage others. You know that, because also you are active here, right?
Noah was following a vision sent from a Divine source. He did what his inner voice guided him to do.
How do you know, that is not the same, also for me? Also, it would have been easier for me leave the things alone, but I feel that I can't. We need to do something, more than pointing links on the internet. We need to do something from our own and for people benefits. This I thought, was all the point for a thread like this. If there are no people benefit from our comments, then our comments would be redundant, wouldn't be so?
Likely his neighbors probably thought he was a bit strange for building a giant boat. They probably asked him what he was doing and I really doubt he'd to raving about like a madman saying, "The end is nigh! Save yourselves or kiss your ass goodbye!" (oh hey..that rhymed! )
Judging after same is happening today, is no use to try wake up them, so hardly, to pressure people, no. Every soul will be waked up at the right moment, proper for him. Maybe Noah such has been instructed by God, or maybe get tired to wake up the mocking flock. Everything are suppositions.
Oh yes. The Creator is the Creator. No source on the Mother could possibly even compare.
Discrediting and mocking? No. Creating dialogue and attempting to punch holes in a given theory or idea is a means to test the merit of that given thing.
If all you have are a ton of people agreeing only, then how do you know where the dangers are?
Good, so to understand that you are here, like a white hat hacker, trying to test the security of it's own server? Nice, though!
People like me like to be kept on edge and not rusting! You can keep going on, no problem! But the issue here, if I understood right, was to gather important and relevant issues/procedures/guides for the people, not testing the shallowness or the deepness of other poster minds. The issue here was not to agree or not, but to contribute or not, but with latest posts, we are furthering most from the last affirmation, that with contribution...
There are quite a few people out there willing to bilk you of your money, trample your dignity, ruin all that you have worked for all for the sake of furthering themselves.
Really I never had that impression you mention, being here for long as observer and short as poster, but never occurred me things you were saying. But maybe your experience is different, I'm sorry you encountered such characters here.
Most of the people posts here, seem to be great folks, very open mind, intelligent, bright, enlightened and of good character, otherwise I wouldn't join in the first place, anyway is the only forum I write, in my entire life (and I'm not young, though). Sorry for you feel so...
I would rather people not blindly leap into something without exhausting all channels of dialogue. Question so that you may know and if the answer is not satisfactory then question more.
Yes, this was the whole point, we said we must do this Radiant Zone informative gathering, by asking one, another, etc. That we were doing up to now, or thought we were doing up to now. Now, I'm not so sure...
The path to Hell was paved with good intentions.
I would rather not hear and read about another Waco or a Jonestown. I would rather not hear and read about another Heaven's Gate type of cult rising.
I think your imagination is much drifting here
We are not to the point of even knowing why we need of a Radiant Zone in the first place (some people, not all) we are not so close to a Jonestown or such
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If your feelings are that this will be the outcome of our activity here, I will be scared to the point of not contributing to this thread, just because being afraid of these bad things might happen. What we discuss at this specific point is like: Who is to be blamed for a crime? The manufacturer of the weapon because the weapon killed that victim, or the person which handled/triggered/ that weapon?
To those who read, I am not posting to discourage anyone. I merely wish for people to choose with wisdom, knowledge and their eyes wide open.
Be sure, there are people here, that they saw DEATH with their eyes, not so easy you to discourage.
The rest which may be discouraged, maybe they shouldn't be on this thread anyhow. Life is not a walk in the park, don't mention the "goodies' that TPTB are preparing for us; even lesser. And do not be a fear monger, nor a hysteric, as some people categorise such attitude. I just want to be aware, that nasty things could happen and human with their capabilities, must survive them.
So, I suggest people with feeble courage to bite their hearts and stay, who knows maybe some people really in the business of survival, will join us, thrashing our babbling and we all have to learn from them. Who knows?
“If a blind man leads a blind man, both will fall into a pit. (Matthew 15:14)”
Winter Wolf