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Hiram · 09-12-2009, 07:52 PM

I'm not sure I agree with the statement that Art took Steve Greer's side.

I think what Art implied was that most civilizations who had reached past a certain type (see Michio Kaku) had to have had SOME SORT of movement toward unified consciousness. Otherwise they would have destroyed themselves.

He also indicated that painting the ET's he knew about as all black or all white was incorrect and the truth was bit more complicated. This sounds like an intelligent perspective

I think the important distinction needs to made, that there may be ET's, future Humans, and Trans-Dimensionals, whose goals, though not necessarily melevolent towards us...do not necessarily make things EASIER for us either. I think ones gut reaction to label such parties as bad, or negative, is premature.

In any event, we should bless our enemies and thank them. Without them we would not be able to grow, or make the transition. The object of resistance is to make us strong. The weightlifter adds more and more weight in order to become a champion.

When we were challenged from the outside, our government chose the path of public denial and secret defiance. This is the path to failure. We must chose the path of public admission and open defiance.

Until we take our place we will remain trapped. The threats that have been delivered to our government in secret are a test. To pass it we must defy them. Our place will not be given us. We must be strong enough to take it.

That is really whats happening within this time stream. I also noted that Art seemed to discuss whether his experiences may not have even occured in this time stream. I find that absolutely fascinating. Are you visiting Mars in the distant past...or the distant future? Do the two loop around and become the same thing as Dan Burisch says?

When we see the structures on Mars, are we really looking at the ruins of a future civilization that hasn't even occured yet? It really begins to dawn on you how little even the brightest among us understand.

I think about Dr. Peterson stating that when Obama was briefed for the first time he needed to sit down for quite a while. Imagine what they know that we don't?

09-12-2009, 07:52 PM	#4
Hiram Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: San Francisco Posts: 119	Re: Latest Future Talk with Deacon I'm not sure I agree with the statement that Art took Steve Greer's side. I think what Art implied was that most civilizations who had reached past a certain type (see Michio Kaku) had to have had SOME SORT of movement toward unified consciousness. Otherwise they would have destroyed themselves. He also indicated that painting the ET's he knew about as all black or all white was incorrect and the truth was bit more complicated. This sounds like an intelligent perspective I think the important distinction needs to made, that there may be ET's, future Humans, and Trans-Dimensionals, whose goals, though not necessarily melevolent towards us...do not necessarily make things EASIER for us either. I think ones gut reaction to label such parties as bad, or negative, is premature. In any event, we should bless our enemies and thank them. Without them we would not be able to grow, or make the transition. The object of resistance is to make us strong. The weightlifter adds more and more weight in order to become a champion. When we were challenged from the outside, our government chose the path of public denial and secret defiance. This is the path to failure. We must chose the path of public admission and open defiance. Until we take our place we will remain trapped. The threats that have been delivered to our government in secret are a test. To pass it we must defy them. Our place will not be given us. We must be strong enough to take it. That is really whats happening within this time stream. I also noted that Art seemed to discuss whether his experiences may not have even occured in this time stream. I find that absolutely fascinating. Are you visiting Mars in the distant past...or the distant future? Do the two loop around and become the same thing as Dan Burisch says? When we see the structures on Mars, are we really looking at the ruins of a future civilization that hasn't even occured yet? It really begins to dawn on you how little even the brightest among us understand. I think about Dr. Peterson stating that when Obama was briefed for the first time he needed to sit down for quite a while. Imagine what they know that we don't?