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laurawalker72 · 11-22-2008, 10:02 PM

Hello everybody
I’ve been learning many things on the internet but most of them weren’t very interesting. I didn’t have time to read references about English UFOs, I’ll speak about it when I have done it. Now, I look after the answers and questions. About the pictures I have to put online, I didn’t look after that. I want first of all to see what’s going on here. If I see that things are better, I will do what I said about some astonishing pictures, but right now I don’t want to give weapons to people who want only to insult, I won’t offer the “injury”. I’ll see today, what I have here.

I’ll start with the answers:

Bill Ryan:

Hi, Laura:

Thank you for your contribution. Kerry and I want to offer you our encouragement and appreciation. Anchor is right: this is Project Camelot material.

It's a fascinating story that's certainly plausible, and rings true here. Artefacts (yes, the English spelling! In the US it's spelled with an 'i' ) like this do exist. There seem to be several variants of these devices... not just the 'Yellow Book' reported by a number of good researchers over the years.

I'm based in Zurich (flying in there from the US on Sunday morning) and have many friends in Germany, including Thomas Kirschner, the editor of the German edition of NEXUS magazine, who would certainly be interested in reporting and/or helping to investigate this. I'd be delighted to help out if I can. I'll be in Europe for maybe two or three months.

Do please continue to post information on this thread, and also (if you like) contact Kerry or myself privately.

[* side note: we are in touch with Tony Dodd and have a very high regard for his work... ]

Very best wishes, Bill

Thank you,
very nice indeed. Everything that you wrote seems to be quite serious. Unfortunately, you are referring to names I have never heard about. Don’t forget that I’m quite new to this world. Here is some more work, I’ll have to do about these names, to know who you are. Your way of talking shows someone who is open and well balanced, I’m glad of this. It mustn’t be a surprise to you that most of the population in ufology and stuff like that is quite unbalanced. This is more about things I know well, and this worries me very much. Why? Because I’ve been working with people who were tortured and each time, like also with veterans of a war, we can find this sort of panic in the mind, that I can find as well with the ufology population. I’m afraid that with what they receive from the people or the media, most of them lost all kind of balance, and that means that it was done on purpose and by professionals. What’s your opinion on this? Everyday I’m discovering more about ufology, I try to understand, to get the smallest chance to understand, and that is really a lot of work for someone like me. About communication and psychology, it’s different, I’m a pro and I’ve been analysing everybody’s reaction with the greatest worries. Indeed what I can say, so far, is things are happening everywhere in a very strange way. For instance, I’ve been learning about the crop circles’ case lately, very strange, indeed, but I’m not talking about the phenomena itself, I’m talking about the people around. I saw a lot of people who obviously want to make money and nothing else. They couldn’t care less about truth, only money. For instance, it’s obvious and easy that some crop circles are man made, while some others are something else. Even for me, who isn’t a pro, it’s very easy to see.
There was once a meeting of an association in germany of people who are against any kind of beliefs starting with crop circles, two or three days before this meeting, appeared a crop circle, just near the town where the meeting was held. This crop circle is really ridiculous and to take it under consideration is an insult to anybody who wants to work in a professional way. Still the great expert Andreas Müller is talking of the pictures as if it was something serious. How is it possible? Even worse, the same guy who takes everything to be more present on the internet is the reference even here (in England) to look after crop circles. This is really strange, it looks like some people are doing their best to select the worst care and the worst people. It’s like EBE who could survive only with ice cream!!! It seems that some people are working to push the people who want to look after ufology to become crazy. Strange, very strange, and, indeed, what I don’t understand, why? Why should some people to push the others to become completely crazy? What should be the problem with discovering secrets about UFOs.
That’s a mystery for me? Could someone help please?
Laura.

Once more thank you for your nice and balanced answer my friend. Keep in touch.

Antaletriangle:

Hi Laura,Thanks for the tenacity;have you any shots of the underside of the disc-i'm curious of the underneath,suppose i'm stilll a child at heart,looking under stones to find creepy crawlies and so forth;this kinda curiosity gets me into trouble!!lol.

No problem at all, I’ll check to see exactly which picutures we have in our files and I wanted to put everything online. I’m just hesitating because to put those pictures online, I have to give explanations that everybody will use to insult. Now, I’m not going to say that the scenario I have is true, I just say, that it is the only one I have, and I’d like expose it to find some serious opinion, but I fear the time wasted by insults. Sorry, I suppose I’ll have to make up my mind and fly over those empty texts.
Laura

Bill Ryan:

Dear Argyll, Zelong:

Kerry and I agree that this artefact may be very important, and we want to find out more and help if we can. [Laura, please get in touch either here or privately. We're looking forward to hearing from you.]

Both of you, please do this for me: go to http://projectcamelot.org/interviews.html and spend two or three weekends viewing the 100+ hours of video interviews which we make available for free. You may learn things you never dreamed about.

These kinds of artefacts are very real, and we're heard about them from several different sources. We have the resources and reliable contacts to do a comprehensive field investigation and would be delighted to do so.

Very best wishes, Bill

Hello,
I don’t want to drop in, but I’ll have a look to. So much to learn, incredible, when I think that when I started some of my colleagues told me that it was completely useless because there was nothing. Well… I’m spending a lot of time reading … nothing!!!!
Laura.

Mach66:

Laura,
I am very intrigued and yet perplexed. I have read the whole thread now and have to say I have a mixed bag of emotions. You come across as both a good person truly after information and as suspicious. Please don't take the suspicious comment as negative, it is only a perception. In this regard, you would have to expect the negative comments you have received. Plust everyone on Project Camelot and Avalon, well not everyone, but a lot of peple, are either egocentric, or just plain paranoid. You have done a great job of figuring out how to deal with these types of personalities = ignore them. I congratulate you.

You seem oddly placed in this world to me. You are obviously German and a scientist or researcher. For someone with a scientific background, you have an extremely spiritual nature. That might be bery possible in Germany, here in America, highly unlikely. the thing that puzzles me the most and the thing I find to be your most likeable attribute, is your naivete. For a scientist/researcher, you seem so pure in your heart and like me, you expect the rest of humanity to be the same way. What puzzles me is your reaction to the many rude people on the internet and the fact that there are so many rude people on this planet. I figured that was common worldly knowledge?

I think it is very cute/attractive that you seem bewildered by the many mean people.. I guess I envy you. It makes me jealous to think that there is actually a place on this Earth where someone can grow and reach an age of at least their 30's and "not" realize there are so many messed up (mean) people out there. That's pretty sad isn't it? It jsut goes to show how we have been locked up in a spiritual jail and the keys were thrown away a few thousand years ago. Our spirits have been left to rot in prison, while our egos have been allowed to run a muck and become totally out of control and "controlled".

I would say continue your search, stay true to your goals, watch out for manipulation, be most careful of who you meet and never ever lose your sense of empathy for the rest of us. My suggestion at this point would be to allow your postings to do their job. You have posted where you need to. Those rivers need to run their courses. Have you considered using a few different psychics? If you have actual photos or other material which has been associated with anyone in this case, a psychihc of the right type could pick up on things, visions, people, places etc.. and possibly lead you down a different river a bit faster than an internet search full of haters, and people trying to use you for their own goals.

Meeting with Bill and Kerry might be your best bet right now if you plan continuing your stay here at Camelot. However, be careful with anyone you meet. They do seem to be the real McCoy though..

Peace and love to your spirit,

Hello,

I’m going to make you laugh a little bit more, I cried when I read your posting, aren’t I ridiculous? I have a high position where I work so finally no one dares talking rudely to me. I received here in a few weeks of web more insults than during the rest of my life. About my pure heart, and my “naivety” about this, yes, I know, my father speaks often enough about this regrettable aspect of my personality.
About psychics, indeed that could be an idea (I can’t believe I’m writing that). A few months ago somebody who would have talked to me about psychics would have got a gaze full of sorrow for him, and now I accept the idea of using maybe a psychic. Well on the next pictures I’ll put online there’s a picture of the finder, even if, of course, you don’t see his face completely, maybe a psychic will be able to say if he is still alive and where.
About the forum “Camelot”, until now, it is the place where really I met the greatest number of nice and pleasant people. The same goes for the the 2012-comet forum.
NO!!!!!!!! I’M NOT A SCAM CREATED BY CAMELOT AND 2012-COMET TO MAKE A GOOD ADVERTISMENT, WHAT I SAY IS MY OPINION, THAT’S ALL!!! Still, it’s true, really from this forum I have a lot of good feedback.
To finish about my doubts, I cannot deny them. My scientific background gives me a very uncomfortable position. I cannot deny what we have from Melanie, and at the same time I cannot believe what we have, even if we have proof. And proof is the only thing that I believe more than my doubts. Everything I read on the internet about “aliens” can be for me only ********, but my heart tells me something else, and my scientific background shows me that a lot of people have been doing a lot to hide and manipulate things which should be only ********. In fact, they provoke me, exactly the opposite of what they wanted to do, ie, the more I see manipulation, the more I think, those things are quite valuable.
I hope I offence no one here when I say so, I’m trying to be honest.. To be continued. . .

Laura.

11-22-2008, 10:02 PM	#49
laurawalker72 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 20	Re: Investigation into an alien artefact Hello everybody I’ve been learning many things on the internet but most of them weren’t very interesting. I didn’t have time to read references about English UFOs, I’ll speak about it when I have done it. Now, I look after the answers and questions. About the pictures I have to put online, I didn’t look after that. I want first of all to see what’s going on here. If I see that things are better, I will do what I said about some astonishing pictures, but right now I don’t want to give weapons to people who want only to insult, I won’t offer the “injury”. I’ll see today, what I have here. I’ll start with the answers: Bill Ryan: Hi, Laura: Thank you for your contribution. Kerry and I want to offer you our encouragement and appreciation. Anchor is right: this is Project Camelot material. It's a fascinating story that's certainly plausible, and rings true here. Artefacts (yes, the English spelling! In the US it's spelled with an 'i' ) like this do exist. There seem to be several variants of these devices... not just the 'Yellow Book' reported by a number of good researchers over the years. I'm based in Zurich (flying in there from the US on Sunday morning) and have many friends in Germany, including Thomas Kirschner, the editor of the German edition of NEXUS magazine, who would certainly be interested in reporting and/or helping to investigate this. I'd be delighted to help out if I can. I'll be in Europe for maybe two or three months. Do please continue to post information on this thread, and also (if you like) contact Kerry or myself privately. [* side note: we are in touch with Tony Dodd and have a very high regard for his work... ] Very best wishes, Bill Thank you, very nice indeed. Everything that you wrote seems to be quite serious. Unfortunately, you are referring to names I have never heard about. Don’t forget that I’m quite new to this world. Here is some more work, I’ll have to do about these names, to know who you are. Your way of talking shows someone who is open and well balanced, I’m glad of this. It mustn’t be a surprise to you that most of the population in ufology and stuff like that is quite unbalanced. This is more about things I know well, and this worries me very much. Why? Because I’ve been working with people who were tortured and each time, like also with veterans of a war, we can find this sort of panic in the mind, that I can find as well with the ufology population. I’m afraid that with what they receive from the people or the media, most of them lost all kind of balance, and that means that it was done on purpose and by professionals. What’s your opinion on this? Everyday I’m discovering more about ufology, I try to understand, to get the smallest chance to understand, and that is really a lot of work for someone like me. About communication and psychology, it’s different, I’m a pro and I’ve been analysing everybody’s reaction with the greatest worries. Indeed what I can say, so far, is things are happening everywhere in a very strange way. For instance, I’ve been learning about the crop circles’ case lately, very strange, indeed, but I’m not talking about the phenomena itself, I’m talking about the people around. I saw a lot of people who obviously want to make money and nothing else. They couldn’t care less about truth, only money. For instance, it’s obvious and easy that some crop circles are man made, while some others are something else. Even for me, who isn’t a pro, it’s very easy to see. There was once a meeting of an association in germany of people who are against any kind of beliefs starting with crop circles, two or three days before this meeting, appeared a crop circle, just near the town where the meeting was held. This crop circle is really ridiculous and to take it under consideration is an insult to anybody who wants to work in a professional way. Still the great expert Andreas Müller is talking of the pictures as if it was something serious. How is it possible? Even worse, the same guy who takes everything to be more present on the internet is the reference even here (in England) to look after crop circles. This is really strange, it looks like some people are doing their best to select the worst care and the worst people. It’s like EBE who could survive only with ice cream!!! It seems that some people are working to push the people who want to look after ufology to become crazy. Strange, very strange, and, indeed, what I don’t understand, why? Why should some people to push the others to become completely crazy? What should be the problem with discovering secrets about UFOs. That’s a mystery for me? Could someone help please? Laura. Once more thank you for your nice and balanced answer my friend. Keep in touch. Antaletriangle: Hi Laura,Thanks for the tenacity;have you any shots of the underside of the disc-i'm curious of the underneath,suppose i'm stilll a child at heart,looking under stones to find creepy crawlies and so forth;this kinda curiosity gets me into trouble!!lol. No problem at all, I’ll check to see exactly which picutures we have in our files and I wanted to put everything online. I’m just hesitating because to put those pictures online, I have to give explanations that everybody will use to insult. Now, I’m not going to say that the scenario I have is true, I just say, that it is the only one I have, and I’d like expose it to find some serious opinion, but I fear the time wasted by insults. Sorry, I suppose I’ll have to make up my mind and fly over those empty texts. Laura Bill Ryan: Dear Argyll, Zelong: Kerry and I agree that this artefact may be very important, and we want to find out more and help if we can. [Laura, please get in touch either here or privately. We're looking forward to hearing from you.] Both of you, please do this for me: go to http://projectcamelot.org/interviews.html and spend two or three weekends viewing the 100+ hours of video interviews which we make available for free. You may learn things you never dreamed about. These kinds of artefacts are very real, and we're heard about them from several different sources. We have the resources and reliable contacts to do a comprehensive field investigation and would be delighted to do so. Very best wishes, Bill Hello, I don’t want to drop in, but I’ll have a look to. So much to learn, incredible, when I think that when I started some of my colleagues told me that it was completely useless because there was nothing. Well… I’m spending a lot of time reading … nothing!!!! Laura. Mach66: Laura, I am very intrigued and yet perplexed. I have read the whole thread now and have to say I have a mixed bag of emotions. You come across as both a good person truly after information and as suspicious. Please don't take the suspicious comment as negative, it is only a perception. In this regard, you would have to expect the negative comments you have received. Plust everyone on Project Camelot and Avalon, well not everyone, but a lot of peple, are either egocentric, or just plain paranoid. You have done a great job of figuring out how to deal with these types of personalities = ignore them. I congratulate you. You seem oddly placed in this world to me. You are obviously German and a scientist or researcher. For someone with a scientific background, you have an extremely spiritual nature. That might be bery possible in Germany, here in America, highly unlikely. the thing that puzzles me the most and the thing I find to be your most likeable attribute, is your naivete. For a scientist/researcher, you seem so pure in your heart and like me, you expect the rest of humanity to be the same way. What puzzles me is your reaction to the many rude people on the internet and the fact that there are so many rude people on this planet. I figured that was common worldly knowledge? I think it is very cute/attractive that you seem bewildered by the many mean people.. I guess I envy you. It makes me jealous to think that there is actually a place on this Earth where someone can grow and reach an age of at least their 30's and "not" realize there are so many messed up (mean) people out there. That's pretty sad isn't it? It jsut goes to show how we have been locked up in a spiritual jail and the keys were thrown away a few thousand years ago. Our spirits have been left to rot in prison, while our egos have been allowed to run a muck and become totally out of control and "controlled". I would say continue your search, stay true to your goals, watch out for manipulation, be most careful of who you meet and never ever lose your sense of empathy for the rest of us. My suggestion at this point would be to allow your postings to do their job. You have posted where you need to. Those rivers need to run their courses. Have you considered using a few different psychics? If you have actual photos or other material which has been associated with anyone in this case, a psychihc of the right type could pick up on things, visions, people, places etc.. and possibly lead you down a different river a bit faster than an internet search full of haters, and people trying to use you for their own goals. Meeting with Bill and Kerry might be your best bet right now if you plan continuing your stay here at Camelot. However, be careful with anyone you meet. They do seem to be the real McCoy though.. Peace and love to your spirit, Hello, I’m going to make you laugh a little bit more, I cried when I read your posting, aren’t I ridiculous? I have a high position where I work so finally no one dares talking rudely to me. I received here in a few weeks of web more insults than during the rest of my life. About my pure heart, and my “naivety” about this, yes, I know, my father speaks often enough about this regrettable aspect of my personality. About psychics, indeed that could be an idea (I can’t believe I’m writing that). A few months ago somebody who would have talked to me about psychics would have got a gaze full of sorrow for him, and now I accept the idea of using maybe a psychic. Well on the next pictures I’ll put online there’s a picture of the finder, even if, of course, you don’t see his face completely, maybe a psychic will be able to say if he is still alive and where. About the forum “Camelot”, until now, it is the place where really I met the greatest number of nice and pleasant people. The same goes for the the 2012-comet forum. NO!!!!!!!! I’M NOT A SCAM CREATED BY CAMELOT AND 2012-COMET TO MAKE A GOOD ADVERTISMENT, WHAT I SAY IS MY OPINION, THAT’S ALL!!! Still, it’s true, really from this forum I have a lot of good feedback. To finish about my doubts, I cannot deny them. My scientific background gives me a very uncomfortable position. I cannot deny what we have from Melanie, and at the same time I cannot believe what we have, even if we have proof. And proof is the only thing that I believe more than my doubts. Everything I read on the internet about “aliens” can be for me only ******, but my heart tells me something else, and my scientific background shows me that a lot of people have been doing a lot to hide and manipulate things which should be only ******. In fact, they provoke me, exactly the opposite of what they wanted to do, ie, the more I see manipulation, the more I think, those things are quite valuable. I hope I offence no one here when I say so, I’m trying to be honest.. To be continued. . . Laura.