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Originally Posted by Mercuriel

Heres a thought I've had and just to let You know - I've read the Hidden Hand Info as well as the Ra Material. That said, My thought(s) is/are this...

For those that are Harvested into 4th Density Positive - Will They just remain on this Earth as It goes into 4th Density Positive Polarity or is "another" place prepared for those in that Group ??? Your thoughts on this ???

Another Question I have is - If You're of enough Service to Others orientation to qualify for 5th Density Positive - What do You gather would happen to those Individuals in the same way ??? Again, Your thoughts on this would be appreciated...

I will offer my thoughts on this. Let's start out with a quote from Terrence Mckenna:

None of us, I think, can imagine that history could have gone on for another thousand years. I mean, what would it look like? At the current rate of population growth, spread of epedemic disease, rate of invention, connectivity, depletion of resources... It is impossible to concieve of another thousand years of human history. We have burned our bridges, we are preparing for a kind of cultural forward escape. The simple example of metamorphosis is that of catapiller to the butterfly.

The way I understand it (and this is also backed up by RA, HiddenHand, and the Operation Terra material) is that this current Earth will be rendered uninhabitable for a longe time after the (pole) Shift. Thus, the new 4th density planes (both positive and negative, and also the replica Earth(s) for further 3rd density experience) will not be this physical Earth. The transition will involve "physical death" for everyone who finds themselves on the planet at that time, and also including the Planet's beingness herself. This is what RA hints upon when he, in his subtle ways, says that there is no need to "aim for longevity" at this time.

However, this "physical death" (and the whole experience) will be experienced very differently by everyone according to different timlines and what each person "signed up to experience/learn" and according to belief systems. Many will probably "need" to experience the cataclysm ending as part of their learning, and some will not have signed up for this. For some it will be like the transition from catapiller to butterfly. They already find themselves in a developing "cocoon of 4th density", and thus when that cracks, the butterfly of their 4th density being is born. Thus, this current Earth plane serves as medium to be forged/transmuted into the different main splits that will "divide" themselves from it. The spirit/being/Soul of "Mother Earth" will ascend to Terra (4th density positive) as this is earned by her long service to mankind. The Lucifer oversoul being will go to 4th density negative.

Since the 3rd density replica Earth(s) will sort of "start off" where we left off here, it is important to get as far as possible in a "positive" direction before the Shift/Harvest. Everyone benefits greatly from being here at this time. Chances are the 3rd density replica Earth will be pretty good compared to this current earth plane. The worst beings (the bloodline ruling "elite") are gone after all, and the ETs will continue to work with that Earth. It all depends on how far we can get now before the harvest/Shift to give that plane as good a start as possible.

Meanwhile there is another sphere, congruent to a great extent with yellow ray, forming. This fourth-density sphere coexists with first, second, and third. It is of a denser nature due to the rotational core atomic aspects of its material. We have discussed this subject with you.

The fourth-density entities which incarnate at this space/time are fourth-density in the view of experience but are incarnating in less dense vehicles due to desire to experience and aid in the birth of fourth-density upon this plane.

You may note that fourth-density entities have a great abundance of compassion.

63.11 Questioner: Now these entities incarnate into a third-density vibratory body. I am trying to understand how this transition takes place from third to fourth-density. I will take the example of one of these entities of which we are speaking who is now in a third-density body. He will grow older and then will it be necessary that he die from the third-density physical body and reincarnate in a fourth-density body for that transition?

Ra: I am Ra. These entities are those incarnating with what you may call a double body in activation. It will be noted that the entities birthing these fourth-density entities experience a great feeling of, shall we say, the connection and the use of spiritual energies during pregnancy. This is due to the necessity for manifesting the double body.

This transitional body is one which will be, shall we say, able to appreciate fourth-density vibratory complexes as the instreaming increases without the accompanying disruption of the third-density body. If a third-density entity were, shall we say, electrically aware of fourth-density in full, the third-density electrical fields would fail due to incompatibility.

To answer your query about death, these entities will die according to third-density necessities.

63.12 Questioner: You are saying, then, that for the transition from third to fourth-density for one of the entities with doubly activated bodies, in order to make the transition the third-density body will go through the process of what we call death. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. The third and fourth, combination, density’s body will die according to the necessity of third-density mind/body/spirit complex distortions.

If you qualify to 5th density or higher you are most probably a "star seed". Most star seeds will simply return to their home realm/density/familiy etc. after (and some probably before) the show is over. They have also benefited greatly by being here at this "end time". Many star seeds are the leading edge in the transmutation of this plane into Terra (4th density positive), they are the pioneers so to speak. And they will go there and assist in the "colonization" of the Planet.

Ra: I am Ra. The harvest is now. There is not at this time any reason to include efforts along these distortions toward longevity, but rather to encourage distortions toward seeking the heart of self, for this which resides clearly in the violet-ray energy field will determine the harvesting of each mind/body/spirit complex.

Wilcock's take on this issue:

VII. ALL BODIES ON EARTH THAT ARE STILL PHYSICAL WILL TRANSMUTE BEFORE THOSE BEINGS CAN INHABIT THE 4TH DENSITY EARTH

QUESTION: As this transition continues into 4th density activation, in order to inhabit this 4th density earth it will be necessary for all 3rd density physical bodies to go through the process which we refer to as death. Is this correct? (B3, S63, 92)

RA: This is correct.

[NOTE: This is the most widely misunderstood quote in the Law of One series. Context reveals that Ra is referring to a transmutation, not any type of death as we would normally think of it. This is an ecstatic feeling — the most incredible moment of any lifetime you’ve ever had as a human being.

Elsewhere Ra says you CAN reconstitute your third-density body after this happens if you so choose — you simply have to focus on a "more difficult configuration" to get it back.

Through Wilcock, Ra further revealed that there will be an ET-assisted transition off of the Earth plane prior to the 20-degree polar realignment. This highly joyful and even ecstatic transition will not seem like death at all, even though the time of 3rd density incarnation will come to a natural and unseen end along the way.]

http://divinecosmos.com/index.php?op...=127&Itemid=36

This is in harmony with the Operation Terra material that says that those that are destined for Terra (4th density positive) will at some point be "lifted" from this plane (before the pole shift), and finish their transmutation process elsewhere before going to Terra.

Questioner: Am I to understand that the harvest is to occur in the year 2,011, or will it be spread out?

Ra: I am Ra. This is an approximation. We have stated we have difficulty with your time/space. This is an appropriate probable/possible time/space nexus for harvest. Those who are not in incarnation at this time will be included in the harvest.

I keep getting March 2011 as a deadline when I use "muscle calibration" to calibrate it. I got this before I ever heard of Ra.