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Bill Ryan · 09-07-2008, 04:22 AM

Copy of e-mail just sent to Benjamin Fulford:

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Hi, Benjamin -

Thanks so much for being willing to go on record with your concerns and analysis on the spot. We’re editing the recording now and will post it within hours.

The YouTube video you referenced: it’s a little hard to know how reliable the information is. There is much dramatic stating of stark facts, with apparent confidence. But it’s hard to know what’s documented and what’s opinion (or invented!) - or just pulled off other parts of the net and assumed to be fact.

Anyone who says they know exactly what is happening... doesn’t.

Essentially, this is propaganda. The purpose is to create drama and fear. The video maker is also very staunchly biblical, and has created other videos in similar vein.

BUT:

We were recently contacted privately by someone who had a friend who was a security guard at an underground facility close to and associated with the new superhighway being built from Mexico to Canada. Part of that facility is in the public domain, but part of it is not.

The security guard took our contact to a part of the facility where he showed him hundreds (or maybe thousands) of brand new German and Russian military vehicles - largely personnel carriers. He was not able to explain what they both witnessed there (and neither are we).

This was dated in 1997 or 98. We believe this report to be credible but have not published it - there was simply not enough information for it to be useful.

AND (as you probably know):

The camps are real. We have met and talked with George Green, who was asked to build one in Las Vegas. (He refused: it was built anyway, by another contractor.)

The information about the red lists and blue lists sounds like something that has been going round the internet virally. We don’t know the original source. It’s one of those things that came from one person and was then copied so many times that it seemed as if it’s coming from “everywhere” and “everyone knows it”. Actually, it could be spurious. A lot of information like this is.

[We have to say we’re dubious about the 20 Air Force Generals being murdered - and the Madam Wu information - because that has also gone viral on sites like Rumor Mill News and Fourwinds10.com. However, if you were (also) told this by your NSA and CIA sources, then we will listen VERY carefully.]

The problem is extracting the signals from the noise. There’s a lot of noise! But the apparent signals form a pattern. There’s a lot of data clustering.

Statistically, it sure looks like there’s real ground for concern. Kerry and I are both very concerned indeed and we’re not trying to blow anything off. Our own sources are saying things totally consistent with the “problem in October” scenario.

Do please let us know what you learn and tell us if anything is off record - we will honor that.

Warmest wishes as always -

Bill and Kerry

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The video Benjaimn referenced was this one. We are NOT recommending that people watch it or believe it. We just state it here for the record so that readers can understand my considered comments above in response. My strong personal view is that videos like this are irresponsible and add very litle to informed debate.

09-07-2008, 04:22 AM	#17
Bill Ryan Project Avalon Co Founder Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 353	Re: Benjamin Fulford Copy of e-mail just sent to Benjamin Fulford: ******** Hi, Benjamin - Thanks so much for being willing to go on record with your concerns and analysis on the spot. We’re editing the recording now and will post it within hours. The YouTube video you referenced: it’s a little hard to know how reliable the information is. There is much dramatic stating of stark facts, with apparent confidence. But it’s hard to know what’s documented and what’s opinion (or invented!) - or just pulled off other parts of the net and assumed to be fact. Anyone who says they know exactly what is happening... doesn’t. Essentially, this is propaganda. The purpose is to create drama and fear. The video maker is also very staunchly biblical, and has created other videos in similar vein. BUT: We were recently contacted privately by someone who had a friend who was a security guard at an underground facility close to and associated with the new superhighway being built from Mexico to Canada. Part of that facility is in the public domain, but part of it is not. The security guard took our contact to a part of the facility where he showed him hundreds (or maybe thousands) of brand new German and Russian military vehicles - largely personnel carriers. He was not able to explain what they both witnessed there (and neither are we). This was dated in 1997 or 98. We believe this report to be credible but have not published it - there was simply not enough information for it to be useful. AND (as you probably know): The camps are real. We have met and talked with George Green, who was asked to build one in Las Vegas. (He refused: it was built anyway, by another contractor.) The information about the red lists and blue lists sounds like something that has been going round the internet virally. We don’t know the original source. It’s one of those things that came from one person and was then copied so many times that it seemed as if it’s coming from “everywhere” and “everyone knows it”. Actually, it could be spurious. A lot of information like this is. [We have to say we’re dubious about the 20 Air Force Generals being murdered - and the Madam Wu information - because that has also gone viral on sites like Rumor Mill News and Fourwinds10.com. However, if you were (also) told this by your NSA and CIA sources, then we will listen VERY carefully.] The problem is extracting the signals from the noise. There’s a lot of noise! But the apparent signals form a pattern. There’s a lot of data clustering. Statistically, it sure looks like there’s real ground for concern. Kerry and I are both very concerned indeed and we’re not trying to blow anything off. Our own sources are saying things totally consistent with the “problem in October” scenario. Do please let us know what you learn and tell us if anything is off record - we will honor that. Warmest wishes as always - Bill and Kerry ********* The video Benjaimn referenced was this one. We are NOT recommending that people watch it or believe it. We just state it here for the record so that readers can understand my considered comments above in response. My strong personal view is that videos like this are irresponsible and add very litle to informed debate.