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Peace of Mine · 10-28-2008, 03:15 AM

I had a chance to visit the 25-acre Venus Project in Venus, Florida. I took my grandchildren, 8 and 12, at the time. Both were so intrigued as Jacques explained his project, with the use of hands-on robots and models and videos, etc, that they sat entranced for two hours.

We then toured the facility - we saw the domes they built themselves, and had demonstrations of the possible use of technology to make life easier for humans.

As we traveled home, the two children could discuss the concepts and ideas in depth. It intrigued them, to be able to check out kayaks or jet skies or skate boards, or cameras or movie-making gear, or to go to a computer station, or to have time to participate in live plays, or learn to play a banjo, just because you want to.

Jacque's ideas overcome the one "scarce resource" that keeps my grandkids from being able to do these things. It takes so much money to pay for individual jet skis, or movie-making equipment, or for banjo lessons, that my grandkids don't have ANY of those choices currently available.

I mean, given the state of wages and opportunities for the "Average Joe" these days, any discussion of ideologies, whether communism or socialism or "disaster capitalism", absolutely begs the question. Both parents are so busy working two jobs each just to pay for rent and food and transportation, ie, survival, they don't have time to be parents, much less think about banjo lessons.

Grandparents aren't much help. Pension plans, those that haven't been enronized or confiscated, erode daily. Social Security? It is criminal, how we consign our seniors to a life of worry and shame. In the richest country on earth.

BOTTOM LINE: Political, financial, and corporate leadership has failed MISERABLY to provide quality of life for the masses of people. If you are a reasonably sane person with no political ax to grind, the outcome of "Trickle-down Economics" is everyday exposed.

What Jacques seeks to do, imho, is move beyond the ideologies and use technology - sans MONEY - to take care of the very basics of living. His system would guarantee a clean, safe place to live FOR EVERYBODY, a community environment that would give each person every opportunity to "be all that they could be." They would not have to depend upon the little money they "earn" working for the current Wal-Marts - whether factory workers in China or cashiers in America. Robots from a central supply could handle most of the material needs of the people.

A mass-transit system would move people from home to central city for education, entertainment, health care, for libraries, and a place to "check out" the kayaks and movie-making equipment.

There is a plan for food self-sufficiency, so people do not have to struggle to feed themselves. There is no need to transport food across the globe, because most basics could be grown on the periphery of the city, or in rural land close-by.

The "Sea Cities" are simply one way to address over-population when there is not enough land mass available.

Every thing about the Venus Project PUTS PEOPLE FIRST. It asks "How can technology solve problems for humans so they are free to ENJOY LIVING, to HAVE CHOICES in how they spend their time, and CHOICES in how they can best contribute to the greater whole.

The question that should be asked is why our current religious, political, financial, and NGO's operate from any other assumptions.

Why should the majority of people stay broke and hungry, enslaved by those with a selfish agenda that benefits only a small minority? Why shouldn't we change the way resources are managed so that they benefit ALL THE PEOPLE? Why should we allow crony capitalists to wage war or imprison our families so they can make money at our expense? No sane person can sustain an argument to "keep doing the same old thing expecting different results."

The Venus Project presents a RADICAL NEW IDEA that is ripe for our time:

Instead of competing for scarce jobs and scarce wages, available resources are utilized to create optimum conditions for living. Housing, food, clothing, recreation, education, entertainment, etc, is available FOR EVERYONE, so that the best teachers are then free to serve the youth of the community. Or a budding scientist can turn his attention to free energy. Or a spiritual adept can experiment with how to use sound and color to optimize plant growth. Or one who loves to cook can work in the "food palaces" to create art through food presentations that nourish body and soul.

Take away the POWER OF MONEY to horde the resources for one small minority, and utilize ALL AVAILABLE RAW MATERIAL to create prosperity and plenty for ALL THE PEOPLE.

Why would you not be ecstatic to help birth such a vision?

10-28-2008, 03:15 AM	#7
Peace of Mine Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 23	A visit to the venus project with two grandchildren I had a chance to visit the 25-acre Venus Project in Venus, Florida. I took my grandchildren, 8 and 12, at the time. Both were so intrigued as Jacques explained his project, with the use of hands-on robots and models and videos, etc, that they sat entranced for two hours. We then toured the facility - we saw the domes they built themselves, and had demonstrations of the possible use of technology to make life easier for humans. As we traveled home, the two children could discuss the concepts and ideas in depth. It intrigued them, to be able to check out kayaks or jet skies or skate boards, or cameras or movie-making gear, or to go to a computer station, or to have time to participate in live plays, or learn to play a banjo, just because you want to. Jacque's ideas overcome the one "scarce resource" that keeps my grandkids from being able to do these things. It takes so much money to pay for individual jet skis, or movie-making equipment, or for banjo lessons, that my grandkids don't have ANY of those choices currently available. I mean, given the state of wages and opportunities for the "Average Joe" these days, any discussion of ideologies, whether communism or socialism or "disaster capitalism", absolutely begs the question. Both parents are so busy working two jobs each just to pay for rent and food and transportation, ie, survival, they don't have time to be parents, much less think about banjo lessons. Grandparents aren't much help. Pension plans, those that haven't been enronized or confiscated, erode daily. Social Security? It is criminal, how we consign our seniors to a life of worry and shame. In the richest country on earth. BOTTOM LINE: Political, financial, and corporate leadership has failed MISERABLY to provide quality of life for the masses of people. If you are a reasonably sane person with no political ax to grind, the outcome of "Trickle-down Economics" is everyday exposed. What Jacques seeks to do, imho, is move beyond the ideologies and use technology - sans MONEY - to take care of the very basics of living. His system would guarantee a clean, safe place to live FOR EVERYBODY, a community environment that would give each person every opportunity to "be all that they could be." They would not have to depend upon the little money they "earn" working for the current Wal-Marts - whether factory workers in China or cashiers in America. Robots from a central supply could handle most of the material needs of the people. A mass-transit system would move people from home to central city for education, entertainment, health care, for libraries, and a place to "check out" the kayaks and movie-making equipment. There is a plan for food self-sufficiency, so people do not have to struggle to feed themselves. There is no need to transport food across the globe, because most basics could be grown on the periphery of the city, or in rural land close-by. The "Sea Cities" are simply one way to address over-population when there is not enough land mass available. Every thing about the Venus Project PUTS PEOPLE FIRST. It asks "How can technology solve problems for humans so they are free to ENJOY LIVING, to HAVE CHOICES in how they spend their time, and CHOICES in how they can best contribute to the greater whole. The question that should be asked is why our current religious, political, financial, and NGO's operate from any other assumptions. Why should the majority of people stay broke and hungry, enslaved by those with a selfish agenda that benefits only a small minority? Why shouldn't we change the way resources are managed so that they benefit ALL THE PEOPLE? Why should we allow crony capitalists to wage war or imprison our families so they can make money at our expense? No sane person can sustain an argument to "keep doing the same old thing expecting different results." The Venus Project presents a RADICAL NEW IDEA that is ripe for our time: Instead of competing for scarce jobs and scarce wages, available resources are utilized to create optimum conditions for living. Housing, food, clothing, recreation, education, entertainment, etc, is available FOR EVERYONE, so that the best teachers are then free to serve the youth of the community. Or a budding scientist can turn his attention to free energy. Or a spiritual adept can experiment with how to use sound and color to optimize plant growth. Or one who loves to cook can work in the "food palaces" to create art through food presentations that nourish body and soul. Take away the POWER OF MONEY to horde the resources for one small minority, and utilize ALL AVAILABLE RAW MATERIAL to create prosperity and plenty for ALL THE PEOPLE. Why would you not be ecstatic to help birth such a vision?