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I had this dream a few years ago. It was a powerful dream, and I will never forget it. I would like to document it here, as I remember it.
--- Jesus is Lord --- I found myself walking into a stone building which has wooden doors. Upon entering, I could see a well straight ahead in a corner to my right. On the left, there was a large entrance to another room which had one step down to a sand floor. The floor I was standing on was stone. I walked to the well, which was round (about waste height) and was made from stone. Standing next to it I peered in, and it was full of a black substance, not unlike motor oil. Then, I tried to climb into it face first. However, it repelled me. I could not get my face fast the surface -- as much as I tried. Then, I stood up and turned around 180 degrees, facing the door that I had previously walked in from. To the right, in the corner, (in behind the entrance door) was another well. So I approached it to see what was in it. As I walked closer, I could see that it was radiating light. It was full of perfectly clear water. Then, even before I had reached half way, I became rejuvenated. Even before I got anywhere near the well, I became full with life. It was as if I was a walking zombie, and grey - with no color, that had become full with vibrant color and life. The transformation of myself, even upon simply looking toward that well was amazing. Then, I turned to my right toward the entrance that had one step down to a sand floor. There were two beams in the middle of that room from the ceiling to the floor. They were timber beams and round. There were a heap of people slowly walking around those beams. They were grey and lifeless, like zombies -- as I was when I first walked into the building. Note: When I walked into the building, I didn't realise how grey and lifeless I was until I was rejuvenated. I touched one person on the shoulder with my right hand and said: "Jesus is Lord". That person was transformed - filled with life and color, just as I previously was, upon seeing that well full of light. I touched another person on the shoulder and said: "Jesus is Lord". They were also rejuvenated. I proceeded to touch each person on the shoulder, saying: "Jesus is Lord". Each person became rejuvenated. I came across one woman who had a fat face. She was very overweight. I tried to touch her shoulder, but she looked at me in disgust -- as if to find me repugnant. So I passed her, and I touched another person on the shoulder. I said "Jesus is Lord". I continued doing this, until I had done everyone in that room, except the fat woman. Then, when she was the only one left, she walked over to me with a receptive and humbled look. I touched her on the shoulder and said: "Jesus is Lord". She was rejuvenated. Then, everyone in the building was done. I walked back up the step and into the room with the two wells and then back out the door that I had originally entered from. Then I said loudly, out into the open: "JESUS IS LORD", and began walking, shouting that announcement to all.. "JESUS IS LORD".. That was the end of the dream. Last edited by m1*; 10-27-2009 at 07:27 AM. |
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Thank-you for relating your interesting dream.
Jesus is a silent companion of mine as I consider all manner of information and theories regarding who we really are and what is really going on. Jesus is Lord...and yet I reverence the Divinity Within Humanity. Perhaps the words of Christ can help us to rightly access the Holy Spirit who resides within all of us. ![]() ![]() |
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A dream like that can *change* you. Very interesting dream - thanks for writing it up.
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With the greatest of respect toward you and others, may I make what I see as a vital point for you all to contemplate and consider about the name Jesus.
Look into any large dictionary (not online, but a book) and notice how few pages exist in the J section. There's historical reason for that... the letter J having developed from the I and the I from the Y together w/the fact that there was no "J" sound 2000 yrs ago. And also consider that when a person's name is spoken in another language, the pronunciation of a name does not change. In other words, if your name is Thomas, the name would always sound like Thomas and its spelling would reflect that. Ask yourself, why has this name come to be spelled & pronounced entirely different than its original? And why do you continue to use it if you know this? Who are you really calling on when you use a name that did not exist? Are the results of the use what's important? Cannot a thief bring you results that you may be looking for, if it's an advanced being? That said, would it not be more accurate, inclusive and non-controversial to use the title of Christ, in this day of the name perversion, considering that many here are sticklers for Truth? Is it not the consciousness that matters, Christ consciousness, meaning its attributes/character? Many say that the name does not matter. I think it is a lie, as in there was an intention behind it's development. Swerdlow says the name is Immanuel (like Ezeki-el, Gabri-el, Micha-el, EL being god). Others say Yah-shua (coming in his father's name YHWH). Does it matter? and who is really being called when one uses an eroneous name? Inquiring minds may want to know. Ignorance exists and just may be the route of entry for manipulation. Again, I write w/sincere intent of Truth. Is a name important? I ask you. Orthodoxy... your last sentence reiterates the point of rightly accessing the holy spirit. thank you |
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The sort answer is that we no longer speak Aramaic.
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I think that everything is important. But as you know we all speak different language. For example in Serbian language the name "John" is being spoken Jovan... or in Russian and Croatian -Ivan. Also God´s name is originally in tetragrramaton for as YHWH in english translation. Original pronounciation was lost because of Jewish superstition to never say God´s name in public . Also God´ name was banned from Bible by clergy and replace by term LORD. and you find it today that we pronounce it as: Yahweh Yahwey Yahwe Jahve Jehova Jehovah Geova or similar... Also we in Serbian say Isus not Jesus and we say Hrist not Christ. We would write Yah-shua as Jesua... Paul as Pavle ( Craotian would be Pavao) Spanish Pablo... Matthew is Matej or Mateja Luke is Luka Nebukhadnezzar is Navuhodonosor The point is that different people say it differently but it is the same name. Again I do not think that just saying someone´s name can do anything,it is the deeds of that person that evokes emotion or responce . You can yell whole day JESUS JESUS or JEHOVAH OR YAHWEH and there would be no help if you are attacked. The thing is to know them and walk the way of truth and righteusness with our Creator Yahweh and King Jesus Christ. P.S. Christ is a term ,meaning messiah - the deliverer or redeemer of humanity, it is not his last name... Christ conscience is actually someone´s own conscience tuned with holy spirit. And also you can not tune with spirit alone before an actual person gives that spirit to you, it is God´s omnipotent force and Christ force too. |
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Also, Jesus was a Jew.
Should we stop saying that because there was no J? Language changes. I'd rather not have a discussion about that here. It's off topic, regarding my post. This post is about dreams, not language. I urge you to create your own thread about the subject. I have noted what you have said. Thanks. |
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In my view it is not the syntax that matters it is the sematics
![]() In otherwords it is the meaning (and therefore the intent) that is important. Your 3D brain has to have something to hang its abstract notions on in order to communicate them in 3D medium. The problem with all this is that the symbology systems are very easy to manipulate by those of mischevious intentions. That is why discrimination is key. A.. |
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I've been trying to make the Teachings of Jesus the Christian Canon...and as a result...I have become a Loose Cannon.
Consider 'The Great Commission' in Matthew 28:16-20: "Then the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain where Jesus had told them to go. When they saw him, they worshiped him; but some doubted. Then Jesus came to them and said, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age." Can anyone document any significant grouping of people actually doing this in the nearly 2,000 years since Jesus spoke these words? Regarding Jehovah... Last edited by orthodoxymoron; 10-28-2009 at 05:18 AM. |
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As a mother responds regardless of her childrens pronunciation of her name for she knows her childrens voices
Do you think it is any different our relation with Mother Father Brother Sister the adolescents of the world are so full of themselves and want to do everything on their own with no interference from their forgotten Family It does not matter if you write Jesus or the hebrew Yeshua the pronunciation between the two is not exactly the same either and again it does not matter the hebrew Yeshua means Salvation - and is most likely the Name given to Him Do you think Yeshua does not know His Family - and how each member pronounces His Name Last edited by RedeZra; 10-28-2009 at 01:07 AM. |
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I would just like to make it clear, that I did not create this thread for it to become a religious debate. I just wanted to document a dream.
If anyone can read into the dream, or can provide insight as to what it might mean, that is what I am after. Discussion of the dream. Or if anyone has had similar dreams, and can relate, I would appreciate that also. If anyone has any questions about religion, Christianity, language, the history of religious people, the crusades, atheism, or anything else -- or would like to post comedic videos, I would strongly urge you to create a thread about it for yourself. Thank you. |
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One person's vision or dream can create a vision or dream in another person's mind...which they wish to share with others...in the context of the original vision or dream. If 'Jesus is Lord'...it might be wise to do what Jesus said to do. Luke 6:46 reads "Why do you call me, 'Lord, Lord,' and do not do what I say? I will show you what he is like who comes to me and hears my words and puts them into practice. He is like a man building a house, who dug down deep and laid the foundation on rock. When a flood came, the torrent struck that house but could not shake it, because it was well built. But the one who hears my words and does not put them into practice is like a man who built a house on the ground without a foundation. The moment the torrent struck that house, it collapsed and its destruction was complete."
The religious leaders and stupid rules...as depicted in the comedic video...were the very ones Jesus took issue with. Often...religious discussions are devoid of joy and humor. I try to revivify dead discussions. My post was intended to address the central subject of your dream...namely 'Jesus is Lord'. I have a friend who had a dream where Jesus was dressed as a warrior. Ralph Ellis has a unique view of the Bible which would lend support to this version of Jesus. There is also an interesting book by Edward Schillebeeckx titled 'The Experience of Jesus as Lord'. What would Freud or Jung say about your dream? In fact...what would Jesus say? Last edited by orthodoxymoron; 10-28-2009 at 05:48 AM. |
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So, what I believe the dream means, is that the building is a church. Inside the church is supposed to be good (ie: Holy), however, there is good "and" evil. The result of that evil is that people aren't really in a church at all, they're one step down on a foundation of sand, doing circles - they have no life in them as a result. As far as I can see, in this world, at the mention of "Jesus" or "God" the overwhelming majority have that dead church come to mind (and they think that's what God represents). The "religious" church. The very type of church that Jesus couldn't stand - and spoke out about. It is rife today, and causing people to turn from (and hate) a God that they don't even know, and never took the time. There was a time, when I was younger (early 20's) where (after reading the Bible), I decided that I need to "congregate" with other people, before God. However, I tried a heap of different (so called) "churches" -- and each and every time, I went home shaking my head. I thought: "This is not what it says in the Bible". I realize now that I am older, and have learned more about the Bible, that these are religious people. So, it is possible, as far as I can see - that the dream is telling me to go into these churches and remind people that: "Jesus is Lord" - NOT religion. However, I am not 100% sure what the dream means. I am just looking at my own life. I WAS repelled by the churches (just as the dream signified). I DID see "the light" also, so to speak - from reading the Bible and not listening to cult practices. I attended both Mormon and JW meetings, and I can categorically state, right now - that they are cults. I've also been to baptist and born again meetings, and again - I was dismayed. As for Catholicism, I don't think I've seen a more blasphemous religion. I see so many people online saying "Christians did this" and "Christians did that". However, Catholicism is not Christianity, even though they do claim to be Christian. Catholicism has turned more people against God and made them atheists more than any other religion on earth. They are like modern day pharisees. At least, the clergy is. However, I am quite sure there are some very good people who call themselves Catholic. It's the "religion" I can't stand - not the people. I love the people. As far as I can see, from reading the Bible, and seeing tired old debates on YouTube and forums, the world has turned into a Godless place; a faithless place. Very few people really know what's in the Bible (in the correct context, which takes study and prayer to understand), and more and more - people are just opening it to find (what they perceive as) contradictions. It's a sad state of affairs. I do wholeheartedly believe that "Jesus IS Lord", and I do sincerely hope that the dream I had depicts something that I am set out to do - because people need to stop serving their religions and THEMSELVES. They need to understand that they are fallen and that they only way to be grafted back onto the living vine is to take the hand of Jesus, which is stretched out before them. Most people can't even see it. They are blind to it. Last edited by m1*; 10-28-2009 at 06:08 AM. |
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Hi M1 -
My impressions: The 'building' is nice, simple. With sand and stone, wooden doors, wells, 2 central support beams where the people are walking. The two wells: Very dualistic like Zoroastrianism. Evil, good. Life, lifeless (people). Clean, dirty (water). Attraction, repulsion. Zoroastrians also lowered their dead into wells, to prepare the bones for burial, i.e. the flesh would fall off. It wouldn't be a good well to drink from. There are lots of other myths about poison springs. Some cultures had tasters for the important people, so the tasters would die, though that's more a problem with stagnancy. Warfare: poison the wells. Etc. What do you mean by 'Jesus was a Jew'? It sounds like you have a PROBLEM!!!!!!!!!!! with that. |
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Very well said. Searching for truth and doing the right thing...on an ongoing basis...seems to be key. The churches are in trouble. Secular society is in trouble. Fringe thinkers...such as myself...are in trouble. Everyone seems to be in trouble. My positive vision for the future is a highly ethical and highly spiritual secular society in a world without borders. That's my dream.
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From my experience, dreams are not exactly reliable sources of information. Dreams most often occur in the astral realm, where truth is very limited and deceiving forces are very abundant.
Discernment is always key. Sometimes dreams can provide higher messages for us, sometimes they can provide deceptive messages. Truth is found in our heart beyond all the matrixes and beyond our pre-conceived beliefs... truth is deeply hidden unfortunately under the darkness... we must shine the light to really get to the bottom of it... Interesting to note... as we make progress in consciousness, we will be given both a true and a false teaching whenver it is time to come up higher. It is up to us whether we are ready to surrender a belief which is false and come up higher in truth, or whether we wish to have a limited ego belief solidified with a false teaching rather than surrendering a false belief and coming up higher with a truth teaching we have been presented with. That keeps the game firmly in 'free will' territory. If you are given a truth, you will also be given a non-truth to keep you where your at. What do you choose? Do you want to come up higher? Or do you want to continue down the more limited track that you are currently on? Your choice, that's free will. If you wanna look at it like earth's a schoolroom and it's a test, that's another way to look at it. Your being tested all the time on the path of consciousness on the search for truth. Are you willing to come up higher? That's always the question, you always provide the answer. Another one: you'll never be given a test your not, on some level, ready to pass. Anyway, thought I'd throw that out there. Further, sometimes a lesson can be at a certain level for us, but be at a lower level than for someone else. For example, if we don't believe in God or Jesus whatsoever, than a dream such as the one described can help connect us to Jesus and a higher spiritual reality. This is a good thing, but it will not take us all the way, because there is so much more to go to get to the truth that will set us free. So all yah gotta do is say "Jesus is Lord" and you're saved huh? And if you don't then uh oh for you huh? Is that what Jesus was teaching? Or is that what human egos decided was his message when they created many outer rituals and establishments around his message when they ignored the part that said "take up your own cross and follow me into life eternal, the kingdom of heaven is inside of you and it is at hand here and Now, and the truth will set you free. You will do the works that I do, only greater works than these you shall do". P.S. I agree very much there is power in names. Jesus Christ, which I believe is his ascended name, should be called on and he will be very helpful, including protecting you and your family in et encounters scenarios. Keep Jesus close to you at all times if you feel comfortable doing so. He is love, he is infinitely more powerful than the dark ones. I would suggest that he also is your older brother and wants you to follow in his footsteps ![]() Last edited by 14 Chakras; 10-28-2009 at 08:13 AM. |
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That is not only an incorrect teaching, but it couldn't be further from the truth. I do not believe that my touching people on the shoulder in the dream, is representative of such a practice (as simply declaring that Jesus is Lord). Not by any stretch of the imagination. I believe that if the dream does indeed mean anything at all, then it is (of course) symbolic. It is not enough to walk up and down screaming into people's faces: "Jesus is Lord". However, I do personally believe that (through example, teachings, living, experience and love) that we do need to get the message across that Jesus IS Lord - to those who will listen; to help those who know that but have become complacent. I do understand that there are many people who do not recognize Jesus as Lord, and that some people just about convulse, and become EXTREMELY angry toward the assertion. Believe me, I've seen it. There are many people who do NOT agree that Jesus is Lord. However, I do not believe in "conversion". If someone is not receptive to such a declaration, I will simply move along. There's no point in arguing with people. I really can't be bothered arguing. Jesus never asked anyone to argue. To the contrary, he has asked people NOT to argue. Anyone willing to argue about Jesus is not doing what Jesus has asked anyway - so either way, it's pointless. I wholeheartedly believe (as stated in the Bible) that there are some on earth that are God's Children and there are some that are not (wheat and tares). If someone shows disinterest to the point where they're angry or enraged - it's not up to me to judge them, but I'm not in the business of changing people's minds either. It is up to each person to reach their own conclusions. I am only interested in helping to round up the lost sheep -- so to speak. |
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And the music plays .... "I dreamed a dream.... As I lay sleeping... oh woh oh woh....".
The lesson we learn from Joseph is there is always a message to be had from dreams. It is when the soul is free of its earthly restraints and ego and we can communicate directly with the universal conciousness or more so it with us. The Universal Conciousness communicates in imagery. If we have lucid dreams we should communicate them if we don't fully understand them. There will always be a Joseph out there somewhere. What I got out the dream m1* had with the well of black oily stuff and the light is that whilst we look at the darkness it can do nothing for us. If we look at the light and share it then it can touch and lift many. There will be some that resist but when they see how it has touched everyone else they will let go of the ego and be lifted also. So, keep lifting ![]() |
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I agree it's all about the interpretation Initiate, as with any teaching, true or false...
I like the interpretation you present, excellent and I see the positivity in the dream now thanks.. I just find things like that can be misinterpreted the other way where it reinforces limiting beliefs... so as with anything in life, it all comes down to what we do with the talents we are given I guess. And I respect very much your take on things m1*. For me it's an important realization that while Jesus is Lord, so is the God Flame that lives in your heart. And that we are ALL sons and daughters of God, some of us (the elite), have just lost their way in the illusion of separation than others. It should be all light bearers goal to help all of humanity remember their own inner divinity so that they can help make this shift into the upcoming age. The tears are generally so dark and dirty they are beyond our imagination really what they are up to. Virtually all of humanity can make this shift, but it will take people like us to completely surrender to our divine plans and divine direction within, this includes continually coming up higher in truth and being willing to surrender all illusions that block the Way. that's my take :0) Gratitude for sharing your vivid dreams M1*. |
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m1, as you asked for an honest opinion, let me try to elaborate my (subjective) view of your dream, as I’ve had a similar (similar in interpretation) dream.
I think that you were shown the changes that lay ahead of the humanity. Did you ever consider to let the story with the church (or religion) by side and interpret this as a kind of awakening of the whole humanity? I guess this is exactly what you saw in your dream: you saw the Christ energy working thru YOU, which also means that you are almost ready to accept the necessary changes in our DNA in order to become “Christ”. (I bolded Christ, as it means not to become Christian, but that very being that we actually are...the very essential part of our “Father, the Creator”). I guess, this is why you saw the radiating light in your dream too...this represent that powerful life force which surround us and which will bring the necessary changes. About my dream, if I may post it here I was taken (by someone I didn’t see, but which presence was undeniable and VERY present) on the top of a hill over a city. It could’ve been my birth city, but I didn’t felt the necessity to consider this as an important fact. I could’ve been anywhere else. Anyway, suddenly, I was shown a radiating light beam, coming from the sky directly down to the city and “the presence” explained to me (without words) that this beam will change us for good. It was a wonderful, multi coloured, mostly white-bluish light... Then I wished to go down to the city so that I can see the results of the “change” and I was immediately brought there. What I saw surprised me (in my dream)...I saw just an ordinary people like we’re today, and I had to realise that the one that changed was...only ME !!! It was not the other changed, but me...I felt different, but not superior. All of a sudden, there came a man with a big, really big dog. All other jumped away and were really frightened, and the man told me I should better move away, as the dog can not endure the presence of any people. At that moment, I smiled at him and just told him that I’m different and that his dog will like me. I stood there, talking to this dog thru my heart, asking him to come to me. And to the biggest surprise of all (remember, I could feel their feelings), the big dog came straight to me and we gave us a wonderful, big huge. We loved us immeasurable, beyond any (known to me) degree. The only thing that disturbed me in this dream: altough I was very happy about the changes and the powers I felt in me, I somehow had the feeling of sadness that the other people (still) couldn’t feel what I felt. I felt a kind of embracement about this. Anyway... I clearly see similarities between your dream and mine...in my opinion; we were shown the coming changes on the spiritual level...no matter of any possible earth changes. We were shown that this higher consciousness (which surround us, but we still do not feel and see), is here and almost reachable for all of us. We saw the Christ consciousness in its own beauty, with all powers and love that sustain inside. We both saw or felt the presence of Christ, no matter what his name is. Please consider that I’ve been raised as a Christian, but I consider myself being over that separated state of being a member of any particular religion...there’s no need for that, the separation is just an illusion. with ![]() malletzky |
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Oh, by the way. I saw the lady who resisted as the Elites who have clung and held on to money and technology. They can see the light also but have let there ego's be directed by destructive entites whose time is running out. Eventually every single soul will wake up. Energy can not be destroyed it can only be transmuted.
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the well of dead doctrine the well of water springing up into everlasting life the living dead dragging their feet in the sand around the pillars of support which they do not know for the Spirit and the Truth are dead wood unto them it matters what well we draw the water from and one who drinks the water of everlasting life makes everything fresh around him |
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Therefore, I would think that by becoming rejuvenated, as I was in the dream, it was because I looked to the well of light. I didn't even have to go "to" it, it was that powerful I just "looked" at it and I was rejuvenated and filled with life. I was trying to get INTO the black well, face first an everything - and even with great effort I couldn't get in. So I think that is a representation that the light and the life is much more powerful. When I touched those people on the shoulder, I don't believe that I had any special power or energy. I believe it was just symbolic of passing on the message that Jesus is Lord. But in any case, the good news is that everyone in that building was rejuvenated. Quote:
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I have branches of my family that are brought up in Churches. I look at them now, posting on facebook -- prosperity preaching and televangelists, etc. I just shake my head. When I was 14 (when I started reading the Bible), I was a little horror. I was cheeky. I wouldn't do as I was told. I did the opposite of what everyone wanted me to do. Never went to school. Got sent out of class 50 times a week. Detentions every other day. You name it. Even someone like ME managed to understand that religion is a farce -- so I don't know how these people, who spent their whole lives in church still can't understand the whole point of the Bible. edit This is also why I am not too hard with cheeky little brats who wont do as they're told. I was a cheeky (opinionated) little brat and I didn't turn out too bad. However, I also got my fare share of "discipline" - my dad didn't muck around, let me tell you - lol ![]() Last edited by m1*; 10-28-2009 at 10:25 AM. |
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