A gypsy's curse

[Swanny]

Can a gypsy really put a curse on someone?
And if so can it be removed??
Here's my story, when I was about 19 on a sunny day at the coast with my girlfriend at the time we came across a gypsy woman selling pegs or something, I didn't want to buy any and must have been a bit cheeky (wouldn't have been nasty as I'm not like that) to her as she cursed me saying "You'll never marry."
Well that was 20 odd years ago and I never have married, could it be because of her curse??



I would actually like to get married one day

[Anchor]

Yes and no.

A "gypsy-curse" is simply a stylised form of focussed intent with the aim of manifesting harm in the form of some unwanted outcome.

Since it is clearly a free-will infringement to do such things (unless you for some reason agreed!) then it is a dangerous thing to attempt. A positively polarised (service to others oriented) person would never do this. The Gypsy is responsible and ultimately karmically accountable for thier actions.

If you believe in the power of a curse, then you yourself are unwittingly adding to its power since you are focussing on the outcome of the curse.

The fact that you even ask the question means that you have some doubts and therefore have in someway been subconciously been affected by this - which means the curse has had some effect.

Swanny, this is a learning opportunity.

I think you know what needs to be done

All shadows are dispelled by light.

A..

[rhythm]

think about it this way

you dont need to get married do you

just live with a lady

who needs to get married enyway ...

all thie is stuff n nonsence

dear swanstar

superstisious clap trap

realy . be the love and trust only in that

what is it it that you doubt ?

what you belive tho... you can make a reality

that is the only power of a curse

in itself it has NO power only what you give it hmmmmmmmm....

[tone3jaguar]

A curse is simply a ritual form of focussed intent with the aim of manifesting harm in the form of some unwanted outcome.

No, that is a spell. A curse is when higher dimensional entities are assigned to you to screw up your timeline for the rest of your life and all of your life times to come.

Swanny, I have dealt with a curse before and the one thing I can tell you about them is that they rely completely on their covert nature. An actual highly trained individual from some form of the negative mystery schools weather it is gypsy or not, is not going to tell you what they are doing. If they have to tell you then they are playing psychological games with you and are full of it. Curses are advanced level stuff and only the people with the secret ancient knowledge from long ago can do them.

Black magic practitioners do break the rules from time to time. However, in doing so they are risking huge backlash karma on themselves.

Someone once told me the best way to not be bothered by demons was not to believe in them. I think it's the same principle with curses, you can actually manifest them with your fear.

[14 Chakras]

My understanding is, that almost anyone can send bad energy your way, including a curse or whatnot. It comes down to your own vibration and illusions as to whether the negative energy / entity will stick or not. The higher you come consciously, and the more illusions you surrender, the less effective any negative energy sent your way is going to be at tripping you up.

That being said, I have found personally that the strongest protection against negative energy is forming a relationship with Archangel Michael and calling to him to cut you lose from any and all dark forces and energy that is interfering with you and protect you from any that could. There's nothing more powerful you can do than forming a relationship with this cosmic being who is the protector of humanity (within their own free will).

If you are serious about breaking away from any negative energy that is bothering you, I personally suggest doing this rosary to Archangel Michael a few times (as in a few times over a period of time, like a week, or a month etc.):

http://www.mothermarysgarden.com/J_A...9Michael10.pdf

I found it worked very well for me and the purpose of it is not only to help you and protect your energy field, but also to help the world and allow Archangel Michael to work closer in the world and clear up the baddies who are working against the evolution of mankind.

[tone3jaguar]

Who ever told you that never met a demon, and never had a curse put on them. I did not believe in curses when I was young. That did not stop someone from putting one on me that I did not even know was there until 15 years later in a huge ah ha moment. Curses are rare, they are direct interfearance from the higher dimensions. This is why they hardly ever try them. If they do something like this to an innocent like I was, then they risk getting their asses handed to them down the road by the target if they ever break free from it. Trust me, I was allowed to do way more damage to their metaphysical infrastructure than most individuals that have done battle with the kinds of people who would wield such a thing as a curse. I crippled them.

All of that being said, I chose to have the curse put on me before I was incarnated for the steep learning curve that it would provide or else it would not have happened.

[Anchor]

tone3jaguar: I conceed your definition is correct.

I was however referring to the common perception of a "gypsy-curse", normally depicted as some old hag, mouthing malintent. Which, I agree is not really the same thing as a full-on curse. Eitherway, I have ammended my post with a more correct usage.

Thanks

Originally Posted by encarta

curse noun (plural curs·es)

Definition:
1. swearword: a swearword, obscenity, or blasphemous oath
2. evil prayer: a malevolent appeal to a supernatural being for harm to come to somebody or something, or the harm that is thought to result from this
3. source of harm: a cause of unhappiness or harm the curse of poverty
4. menstruation: menstruation or a menstrual period ( dated slang )
5. christianity history religious ban: an ecclesiastical pronouncement of censure or excommunication

interjection curs·es
Definition:
used as oath: used to express irritation or annoyance

verb (past and past participle cursed, present participle curs·ing, 3rd person present singular curs·es)
Definition:
1. transitive and intransitive verb swear: to utter swearwords or obscenities at somebody
2. transitive verb wish evil on somebody: to appeal malevolently to a supernatural being for harm to come to somebody or something

[Unified Serenity]

She is probably of the community that believes in the "Evil Eye". For them, it is to look upon someone with evil intent. They wear talisman's to ward off the "evil eye".

You do strip power from something by not believing in it, but you wont make an entity cease to exist just because you don't believe in it. I agree that you have given this "curse" power just by the question you asked. If you really want to have a positive relationship and marriage I suggest you envision yourself surrounded by light, take a salt bath, let go of any ill intents you have ever done, offer peace to all, and let go of all entanglements upon you, your spirit, mind and body and see them going down the drain after you rise from the water and pull the plug in the tub.

Just a lil exercise that often works wonders if done in faith and simple meditation.

[TraineeHuman]

Even if that gypsy was powerful, it sounds like her response was very overblown, considering that you were just maybe doing something like making a little noise that upset her concentration for a moment, or whatever it was you did that annoyed her. (Maybe the gypsy was just jealous of your looks or something, Swanny?) So I would question how powerful such a curse could be. That would strongly tend to suggest that her curse doesn't have much to do with your current lack of a life partner. Because the curse was an exaggerated thing to do, most of it would have bounced right back onto the gypsy and not you. If I hand you a bomb with a burning fuse and you casually say: "Not really, thanks" and hand it back, then I'm left holding that bomb, without the time to find anybody else to hand it to. I mean, I take it the gypsy didn't have a sample of your hair or anything like that for her to spend time trying to make her curse stick.

In my experience everybody subconsciously puts curses on others at some stage. Far more often than people generally realise. Whenever somebody learns to be telepathic (i.e., unlearns not being so), they're initially amazed by how much subsconscious negativity and junk they discover most people's minds keep spewing out. Again, that's another reason not to be as concerned as it seems you currently are.

Finally, I know that the effects of even the most powerful black magician's curses can be overcome by healing yourself of their effects every day.

[Swanny]

Thx I will do all that has been said here. From now on that silly old gypo no longer has power over my life

[rhythm]

Originally Posted by Swanny

Thx I will do all that has been said here. From now on that silly old gypo no longer has power over my life

good on yer swan i new you were a real STAR......

A curse or a Sort in french is a gemotric energy that changes your interaction with the part of your personality or energy exchange that you have with the rest of the world. Then when you apply the normal actions to that part of your life, the reverse happens or a distortion to the reality of the energy that is presented to the reciever. This geomettric form can be apply to many parts of your life, Money personal relationships. Work, health etc. The person doing the curse may not totally understand what they are doing or even know the have done it.

If the source is from a trained source then negociation is the only way to lift such a thing, due to the fact that the curse only works, as said before, with the participation of the person. This then give srise to the question that what you are recieving can come partly from your own doing.
The use of the karmic will is where the curse is place.

To take off the thing you will need to know what form it takes and and then which is the best way of dealing with it. The majority of curses I have dealt with comes through the second form that I just described. Then you will find something like a book of accounts. It is a case of closing the account and each taking their part of the book so the filter or geometric shape is removed and you return to a natural state of interaction.

Give me a shout if you want to do something on the skype with it tom.lawless is the user name.

Hows life in Wiltshire. from the new forest just down the road. but now in France. Say hello to the old place for me.

[tone3jaguar]

Interesting perspective, resonates with the truth. I may have very well had some inverting geometry attached to my Merkeba during my curse. Exactly what you described was taking place. The law of attraction worked oppisite on me the entire time. In addition to the geometry was also a manipulation the part of the DNA that is responsible for the programming of your fate. And layered on top of this where heavily veiled lower 6th density off world entities that had some sort of control structure attached to me.

I also agree that the curse is part of an individuals Karma if they have a curse. If you are behind in your lifetimes in learning spiritual lessons like I was then the curse serves the purpose of teaching you spiritual lessons from the open end of a fire hose.

I still do not think that Swanny has any spell or curse on him from the "Gypsy". I think the Gypsy was a great big faker putting on a show so others would buy her garbage. What better way to motivate buyers than to scare the **** out of them.

[tone3jaguar]

Lawlessline!!!!

Holy **** you just help me find the last layer of the curse cake that I had on me for all of those years. I had reversed all the other aspects of it, but I did not know to ask about the geometry. I just checked with the pendulum and the inverting geometry was still there!!!!!!!!!!!

I just had it removed by my guides. They all ways wait around for me to figure stuff out before they do anything about it. I guess that is how I learn.

This should be very interesting to see how my intention begins to function now. I knew something still was not quite right. Thanks!!!!!!!!

[QUOTE=tone3jaguar;144629]Lawlessline!!!!

/QUOTE]


Man great to be a part of a moment for you.
keep it going.

[asteram]

Dear Swanny-

Will you marry me? California's out, but Massachusetts is still OK, I think. It's never too late!

[Swanny]

Originally Posted by asteram

Dear Swanny-

Will you marry me? California's out, but Massachusetts is still OK, I think. It's never too late!

Sorry you're not my type

Great thread very interesting

[mudra]

I sometimes think of life as a book we wrote from full consciousness before stepping into the play and assume the roles we have chosen in order to learn things or rather how to learn them .
The people we meet, the situations we are finding ourselves in, the interests we have are all part of a plot we layed down.The plot has some main guide lines from which we make choices . And we play the same piece a number of times until we grasp and master everything we need to know . This would account for the feeling of " déjà vu " that we sometimes experience. In that sense everything that happens to us is welcome . There is no need to fear anything or to defend oneself against but only remember we wrote the story in the first place so rather go with it and follow the flow and be wise enough to go round the traps we ourselves have layed down

Kindness
mudra

[mudra]

“Only those who truly love and who are truly strong can sustain their lives as a dream. You dwell in your own enchantment. Life throws stones at you, but your love and your dream change those stones into the flowers of discovery. Even if you lose, or are defeated by things, your triumph will always be exemplary. And if no one knows it, then there are places that do. People like you enrich the dreams of the worlds, and it is dreams that create history. People like you are unknowing transformers of things, protected by your own fairy-tale, by love.”
~ Ben Okri (1959)


Kindness
mudra

[rhythm]

Originally Posted by mudra

“Only those who truly love and who are truly strong can sustain their lives as a dream. You dwell in your own enchantment. Life throws stones at you, but your love and your dream change those stones into the flowers of discovery. Even if you lose, or are defeated by things, your triumph will always be exemplary. And if no one knows it, then there are places that do. People like you enrich the dreams of the worlds, and it is dreams that create history. People like you are unknowing transformers of things, protected by your own fairy-tale, by love.”
~ Ben Okri (1959)


Kindness
mudra

Mudra WONDERFULL WONDERFULL

SO TRUE DEAR !!!!!!

[Unified Serenity]

Amon is a demon of wrath. I doubt you employed his aid. Just a hunch is all.

[rhythm]

Originally Posted by Swanny

Sorry you're not my type

Great thread very interesting

See your turning em down now

let em come to you swanstar

get in the cue ....

[Unified Serenity]

Originally Posted by lawlessline

A curse or a Sort in french is a gemotric energy that changes your interaction with the part of your personality or energy exchange that you have with the rest of the world. Then when you apply the normal actions to that part of your life, the reverse happens or a distortion to the reality of the energy that is presented to the reciever. This geomettric form can be apply to many parts of your life, Money personal relationships. Work, health etc. The person doing the curse may not totally understand what they are doing or even know the have done it.

If the source is from a trained source then negociation is the only way to lift such a thing, due to the fact that the curse only works, as said before, with the participation of the person. This then give srise to the question that what you are recieving can come partly from your own doing.
The use of the karmic will is where the curse is place.

To take off the thing you will need to know what form it takes and and then which is the best way of dealing with it. The majority of curses I have dealt with comes through the second form that I just described. Then you will find something like a book of accounts. It is a case of closing the account and each taking their part of the book so the filter or geometric shape is removed and you return to a natural state of interaction.

Give me a shout if you want to do something on the skype with it tom.lawless is the user name.

Hows life in Wiltshire. from the new forest just down the road. but now in France. Say hello to the old place for me.

Ok, if someone has a curse on them from second method you mentioned, what is the way to remove that? What if the person with the curse hold no ill will towards the person who did have great ill will towards them and possibly still does?

How does one tell what geometric shape has interfered with them and their dna or energy? I have been fighting something for nearly 5 years and I have no energy tags on me, but I could sense something was off in a deep level. I have grown greatly in understanding universal love and non-judgmental living over these past five years. I've been talking to my higher self asking for my DNA to correct itself and turn on any parts dormat that need to be "on". I'm not hindered in astral work in any degree, but as I said, I have struggled in another area that just seemed so stagnant and without reason for being so.

I'd like your take on how to keep these curses from flying one's way because someone gets a burr under their "butt" and hates you.

I do practice advanced shielding btw, and this person involved had a very strong tie to me, so I'm doubtful my shielding worked with them, but others do not cause me concern. Just looking for further info on how you see this work.

Thanks

[14 Chakras]

Unified, at least worth considering getting help from Archangel Michael who is more than capable of cutting you free from whatever negativity is in your energy field, as long as you are willing to surrender it.