Important Question for George Greene

Jeremiad · 09-19-2008, 03:40 PM

Hey guys and gals!

So I've been enjoying a lot of videos and interviews with George Greene lately (currently watching the one Kerry and Bill did with him earlier this year), and I must say I find all of his information incredibly fascinating. Thank you guys so much for taking the time to put his story on tape.

However, one thing has been bothering me tremendously about his story, and I wanted to get other Project Avalon members' take on the subject.

One of George's big issues is this deal with overpopulation. How humanity has become too vast and is using up all the resources on Earth. I've come across a lot of people who agree on this overpopulation idea, so I wanted to figure it out myself, and did a few math equations (though, math is certainly not my strong point), and what I came up with startled me a bit.

See, I took the population density of New York City, which has a population of about 8 million or so people. I then applied that to the entire world (I rounded it up to 7 billion for ****s and giggles), and if we were to stick all of humanity in the same population density as NYC, we'd get a giant megacity about 725 miles by 725 mile.

I know this sounds incredibly large, and it certainly is by anyone's standards, but if you take that, and put it on the globe, it's about half the size of Alaska. Yes this is incredibly large, and no, not everyone wants to live like that. However, I ask you to take out half the the size of Alaska, and then look at everything else.

I refuse to believe that all that's left of the uninhabited area of Earth could not feed our population. Not only that, but if you couple it with the fact that free unlimited energy is a fact that has been hidden from the populace, then how on Earth could we not sustain not only the people living today, but the people to come for at least a hundred years or so?

Mr. Greene seems to be an intelligent man capable of making such a calculation, so why base everything on this fact that humanity is this cancer eating our planet? Yes, we are using up the resources, but only because the powers that be want to make a buck. If we had the power of free unlimited energy, then we wouldn't need to be destroying the rain forests, or drilling up all the worlds oil.

I'm curious to hear everyone's take on this. Maybe my calculations are wrong, or maybe there's something that I'm not taking into account. But it seems like there's something missing here and it's a little fishy to me.

Thanks for your input!

- J

09-19-2008, 03:40 PM	#1
Jeremiad Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 24	Important Question for George Greene Hey guys and gals! So I've been enjoying a lot of videos and interviews with George Greene lately (currently watching the one Kerry and Bill did with him earlier this year), and I must say I find all of his information incredibly fascinating. Thank you guys so much for taking the time to put his story on tape. However, one thing has been bothering me tremendously about his story, and I wanted to get other Project Avalon members' take on the subject. One of George's big issues is this deal with overpopulation. How humanity has become too vast and is using up all the resources on Earth. I've come across a lot of people who agree on this overpopulation idea, so I wanted to figure it out myself, and did a few math equations (though, math is certainly not my strong point), and what I came up with startled me a bit. See, I took the population density of New York City, which has a population of about 8 million or so people. I then applied that to the entire world (I rounded it up to 7 billion for ****s and giggles), and if we were to stick all of humanity in the same population density as NYC, we'd get a giant megacity about 725 miles by 725 mile. I know this sounds incredibly large, and it certainly is by anyone's standards, but if you take that, and put it on the globe, it's about half the size of Alaska. Yes this is incredibly large, and no, not everyone wants to live like that. However, I ask you to take out half the the size of Alaska, and then look at everything else. I refuse to believe that all that's left of the uninhabited area of Earth could not feed our population. Not only that, but if you couple it with the fact that free unlimited energy is a fact that has been hidden from the populace, then how on Earth could we not sustain not only the people living today, but the people to come for at least a hundred years or so? Mr. Greene seems to be an intelligent man capable of making such a calculation, so why base everything on this fact that humanity is this cancer eating our planet? Yes, we are using up the resources, but only because the powers that be want to make a buck. If we had the power of free unlimited energy, then we wouldn't need to be destroying the rain forests, or drilling up all the worlds oil. I'm curious to hear everyone's take on this. Maybe my calculations are wrong, or maybe there's something that I'm not taking into account. But it seems like there's something missing here and it's a little fishy to me. Thanks for your input! - J