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Old 05-27-2009, 09:04 PM   #1
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The key is faith that peter represents.
How does the faith key tie in with the Chiron and Alcyone keys?
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Matthew 16:19 tells us "And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven."

What is mentioned here is KEYS (plural), yet the statue of St. Peter at the Vatican is holding only ONE key.

I asked, in an earlier post, why there wasn't a statue of a female holding the feminine key. You didn't think there should be one, but now I am starting to wonder again...

If the Bible says "keys", then why is Peter holding only one key?

Could the other key be hidden in some underground catacomb along with all the other stuff the Vatican does not want us to know?

Now you've really got my imagination going! Do we need to wait for the Chi blast to correct the electrical current or can we take matters into our own hands? Some have said that sun gazing is one of the quickest pathways to enlightenment. Anyone who is interested in this can google Dr. Mitchell Gibson for more information - there are a number of YouTubes of him out there discussing sungazing.[/QUOTE]

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The key is faith that peter represents.Everything on this plain of Xsistence is feminine in nature. Certainly explains the desire for huge phallic symbols Mon-u-Ments being built! The keys are only symbols of that which is truly divine.All that we see ,are only reflections of the higher principles.

The greatest mysteries are veiled, and obvious in nature, once we began to look, we find that Man is the grand symbol of the mysteries. The light is always present,we just need to remove the clouds.

The masculine Golden Radiant Sun shines upon the Silvery reflective feminine Moon (the man on the moon) and shines upon the Earth both night and day. “As above so below”
The **** crows at the first ray of Sunlight.
The light shines on a mirrored Disco ball in a dark club.
Whom or what is the awaiting Bride? “As within so without”

Where is Peter pointing?
Female peacocks on both sides, a white pearl, and an open chamber! Peter’s keyhole? A feminine key?

Oh and a huge pine cone in the center; the Pineal Gland above like a disco ball in a dark bridal chamber … a lantern waiting to be lit.
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Old 05-28-2009, 01:15 AM   #3
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Where is Peter pointing?
Female peacocks on both sides, a white pearl, and an open chamber! Peter’s keyhole? A feminine key?

Oh and a huge pine cone in the center; the Pineal Gland above like a disco ball in a dark bridal chamber … a lantern waiting to be lit.
I wish I had a better understanding of the layout of the Vatican... Is there a white pearl there?
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For those who do not know castel Gandolfo is the summer residence of popes. (been there)
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For those who do not know castel Gandolfo is the summer residence of popes. (been there)
I did not know! Thanks, burgundia, that's coolio. I looked up a picture...


Castel Gandolfo is a small Italian town in Lazio that occupies a height overlooking Lake Albano about 30 km south-east of Rome, on the Alban Hills.

The images looked familiar though, and I know the location as the Vatican Observatory!

Kind of weird...
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For those who do not know castel Gandolfo is the summer residence of popes. (been there)
Do you know how far, and in which direction, it is from the Vatican?

Does the statue of St. Peter at the Vatican happen to be pointing toward it?
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Do you know how far, and in which direction, it is from the Vatican?

Does the statue of St. Peter at the Vatican happen to be pointing toward it?
Your first question is answered by no caste.... south-west, 30 km.
I do not know the answer to the second one....
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Your first question is answered by no caste....
Oops, replied before reading that. Thanks, no caste!
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Cymatic Veilbegone... that is some cool stuff about the Ring!
Lately I keep finding 'washers' (of all things) all around me and have been piecing together different purposes for that shape or object. It can also be a Vortex, or a fountain.
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For the record, i have used some of the hidden records pictures, but not his information.My conclusion is the 5th element is the secret of this alignment, and his is that Aliens came from the Pleaides. I feel that all cultures were honoring the sacred feminine in the stars , not aliens.Thats just my humble take on things, because anything is possible.
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For the record, i have used some of the hidden records pictures, but not his information.My conclusion is the 5th element is the secret of this alignment, and his is that Aliens came from the Pleaides. I feel that all cultures were honoring the sacred feminine in the stars , not aliens.Thats just my humble take on things, because anything is possible.
Personally I have not reached any conclusion but, if nothing else, I think the hidden records website might help provide some background in understanding all of this material.

One difference between your interpretation and his, which I found most interesting, is in the identity of the star in the middle in this picture:



You, and apparently the masons, think it is Sirius, yet he thinks it is something else (I'm not sure what, however! - yet)
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In this image is the story of Jesus , Horus Osiris,Isis ,Orion and many other Gods of the pantheon. The secret of the movie angels and demons is right here in this image. The planets were called angels and the stars were the demons.

Mary Magadelene or Sirius and her seven demons, the pleiades.Or the human soul and its seven chakras.The blazing star is the black star of intuition. Sirius is what Orion follows as he ascends with the sun. Orion in the bible is called the son man, that comes through the clouds of ignorance following , the God or dog star. Serious or Sirus is the the soul that learns to follow intuition. The DOG is GOD in reverse because, the faithfulness and nature of the dog ,ie man's best friend. The dog star sirius was Anubis in egypt.The dog , or intuition is the only thing that can lead the soul on the dark path of the underworld ie earth.



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I think the hidden records website might help provide some background in understanding all of this material.

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It's a pity I didn't know about this website earlier. maybe i would have been more enlightened....
PS. However in the lower left-hand corner there is the address, I just didn't look....
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Please don't confuse hidden records with the information i've presented ,just because his images were used.

I speak of an awakening of global proportions thats going to take place on this planet, thats connected with the heavens, not aliens. There are tons of sites and books speaking on this vatican key ,and none of them speak of the fifth element, or the sacred feminine. I could care less about recieving credit, i just don't want you to think we are talking about the same thing , because we are not.
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Please don't confuse hidden records with the information i've presented ,just because his images were used.

I speak of an awakening of global proportions thats going to take place on this planet, thats connected with the heavens, not aliens. There are tons of sites and books speaking on this vatican key ,and none of them speak of the fifth element, or the sacred feminine. I could care less about recieving credit, i just don't want you to think we are talking about the same thing , because we are not.
I, for example, do not confuse the sources of information. but as NPG said that site gives some background which I , personally, would need to understand certain things. So far, for most part, i've been like child in the fog. i still am as i haven't read the site yet..
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888 - from my humble perspective, one of the most significant references for 'a ring' is that of the - you nailed it- the vortex. I listened to Weidner speak in Los Angeles last year -he was talking about how the ancients understood that time was not linear, but Toroid. He then drew a diagram showing how time moved along a Hypersphere.....



and how the 4 (or some say 5) ages moved in a cyclical pattern....the Iron or Lead Age moving through the most dense point in the vortex...the "singularity" ...and then out into the "gold" age (becoming less dense, less density, etc).



In his theory -- the Ancient Alchemical quest to 'turn lead into gold' was actually metaphor for understanding how time moves in this torus vortex...ie from our current age, Lead or Iron, into the Golden Age.

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apologies in advance if anyone feels this is , just trying to infuse all pertinent info...here is the link to the above-referenced article:

http://www.jayweidner.com/2012Topology.html

and I find it quite synchronistic that Dan Winter also describes the exact geometry when explaining that (at timestamp 4:44)"...when waves converge, what happens is that they always form a toroidal or donut shaped magnetic field because in fact that is the ONLY self-organizing wave form..."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnMi-...x=0&playnext=1

ok I'm done (for now)
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888 - from my humble perspective, one of the most significant references for 'a ring' is that of the - you nailed it- the vortex. I listened to Weidner speak in Los Angeles last year -he was talking about how the ancients understood that time was not linear, but Toroid. He then drew a diagram showing how time moved along a Hypersphere.....



and how the 4 (or some say 5) ages moved in a cyclical pattern....the Iron or Lead Age moving through the most dense point in the vortex...the "singularity" ...and then out into the "gold" age (becoming less dense, less density, etc).



In his theory -- the Ancient Alchemical quest to 'turn lead into gold' was actually metaphor for understanding how time moves in this torus vortex...ie from our current age, Lead or Iron, into the Golden Age.


Hey CV... something really just dawned on me regarding the 'Toroid' as far as time is concerned!!!!!

We exist day in and day out in a linear fashion because our society has developed this habit of a belief, but... if one were to rethink how time happens... in this 'Toroid' event, then I could rethink my past from the future (right now) and have my present become different!!!!

So really timelines may not necessarily be linear or parallel but instead at the moment an event occurs then a branch or fractal spins off of this 'event' and that path then unfolds according to the individuals perception or actions upon that event.

I'll try another way to explain.... I could memorialize an event in my life and each day passes with that memory intact and my life would unfold according to my belief or habit or ritual of day after day while the circumstances followed in a synchronicity in a linear fashion along a path and I would be progressing from that event knowing that it happened and it can't be changed!

But, what if TIME is 'Toroid' as described and I understood the idea or concept and I could actually imagine going back to an event in my life that occurred and change the outcome with distinct knowing that as soon as I did change the outcome in my mind then all time previously unfolded up to my present would rearrange itself so that I found myself in a different perspective or situation or circumstance.

For Example... Dinosaurs lived millions of years ago and now we dig up their fossils and try to decipher what or how they lived... but what if TIME rotates back on itself as in your diagram and Dinosaurs actually are still alive today but in a different space of TIME that we do not participate in. So let's say a dinosaur dies today in the middle of one of our modern cities (yet in the Dinosaurs time of course modern cities don't exist) and we excavate to build something and suddenly the 'Bones' are there but yesterday the bones wouldn't have been there because the dinosaur hadn't died yet... yesterday in its TIME zone.

At the time of the event linear TIME progresses onward on a day to day sequence and all the dust and dirt would cover it up as if millions of years had and would pass by, but from a 'Toroid' fashion we could rotate up right back over to the event as if it just happened in real time!!!

Another example... I could put a time capsule in the ground today and fifty calendar years from today some one could dig it up and see the contents fifty years later. So why couldn't I move myself back in TIME, in a 'Toroid' understanding, to the very event of placing the timecapsule at the moment I placed it as if only seconds had passed... I would be viewing an unfolding path (like the branch of a tree or a lineage) from an event though I would have arrived from another branch of a path to watch a previous branch playing out. I could make a change to this event and then all linear days leading up to the time that I went back would rearrange themselves and I would find myself in a different situation.


Hence... TIME will pass day after day as long as one believes this is how time works, but as soon as one rethinks the mechanics of time then one can go to anytime in their life let's say and re-imagine the outcome with sincerity and a belief in understanding that this is so, then all the days are linear and are not linear depending on which perspective one chooses to use at any given time in their understanding ... or even both...

The walking in two worlds !!!!!!
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777, i don't know how you come up with the information presented... I naturally want to deny/contemplate it all, please understand. However, I am amazed how it makes sense... its logical! Hmmm man, I gotta give it to ya - you are good at this stuff.

So do you think the only life on this planet is human?
Sooo Draco/reptilian beings are like Jesus; symbolic of human traits and our adventure/journey ever upward and outward/inward?
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777, i don't know how you come up with the information presented... I naturally want to deny/contemplate it all, please understand. However, I am amazed how it makes sense... its logical! Hmmm man, I gotta give it to ya - you are good at this stuff.

So do you think the only life on this planet is human?
Sooo Draco/reptilian beings are like Jesus; symbolic of human traits and our adventure/journey ever upward and outward/inward?
Its all about U and your descent into matter ,and your ascension. The under dog is U,Sirius at the base of your spine.U can be a mad dog at zero point (22) or a Hero.These are your Hybrids.They are the divine energy with their light and shadow attributes, and bearing many faces and names.


Here you are ,as the aero-Soul connected with the air the breath , the Chi.This is the reptillian shapeshifter at the base of the spine,always changing form, and renewing her power with each descent and ascent. This means you have the power to shapeshift to any form and bare many attributes.She sees herself in all things, and all things in herself.


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Below is the reptilian shapeshifter that is beneath us from alpha draconis
-Is as in ISIS.,Also depicted here is news FOOT - AGE or footage.Pieces is the age of the foot crushing the serpents head.AG = 8
News coverageand news foot age is an attempt to cover 8 or the light of truth.It is deliberate shadow of truth

Now we have Agenda 21

This is most likely Age End at 21say it fast or slow Agenda 21
Ag = 8-- N= 77 D= 4 or 22 = 877 = Zero point @ 21

Genesis 3:1 Now the serpent was more subtle than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made.

Genesis 3:15 And I will put enmity Between you and the woman, And between your seed and her seed;
He shall bruise you on the head, And you shall bruise him on the heel.

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Hey CV... something really just dawned on me regarding the 'Toroid' as far as time is concerned!!!!!

We exist day in and day out in a linear fashion because our society has developed this habit of a belief, but... if one were to rethink how time happens... in this 'Toroid' event, then I could rethink my past from the future (right now) and have my present become different!!!!

So really timelines may not necessarily be linear or parallel but instead at the moment an event occurs then a branch or fractal spins off of this 'event' and that path then unfolds according to the individuals perception or actions upon that event.

I'll try another way to explain.... I could memorialize an event in my life and each day passes with that memory intact and my life would unfold according to my belief or habit or ritual of day after day while the circumstances followed in a synchronicity in a linear fashion along a path and I would be progressing from that event knowing that it happened and it can't be changed!

But, what if TIME is 'Toroid' as described and I understood the idea or concept and I could actually imagine going back to an event in my life that occurred and change the outcome with distinct knowing that as soon as I did change the outcome in my mind then all time previously unfolded up to my present would rearrange itself so that I found myself in a different perspective or situation or circumstance.

For Example... Dinosaurs lived millions of years ago and now we dig up their fossils and try to decipher what or how they lived... but what if TIME rotates back on itself as in your diagram and Dinosaurs actually are still alive today but in a different space of TIME that we do not participate in. So let's say a dinosaur dies today in the middle of one of our modern cities (yet in the Dinosaurs time of course modern cities don't exist) and we excavate to build something and suddenly the 'Bones' are there but yesterday the bones wouldn't have been there because the dinosaur hadn't died yet... yesterday in its TIME zone.

At the time of the event linear TIME progresses onward on a day to day sequence and all the dust and dirt would cover it up as if millions of years had and would pass by, but from a 'Toroid' fashion we could rotate up right back over to the event as if it just happened in real time!!!

Another example... I could put a time capsule in the ground today and fifty calendar years from today some one could dig it up and see the contents fifty years later. So why couldn't I move myself back in TIME, in a 'Toroid' understanding, to the very event of placing the timecapsule at the moment I placed it as if only seconds had passed... I would be viewing an unfolding path (like the branch of a tree or a lineage) from an event though I would have arrived from another branch of a path to watch a previous branch playing out. I could make a change to this event and then all linear days leading up to the time that I went back would rearrange themselves and I would find myself in a different situation.


Hence... TIME will pass day after day as long as one believes this is how time works, but as soon as one rethinks the mechanics of time then one can go to anytime in their life let's say and re-imagine the outcome with sincerity and a belief in understanding that this is so, then all the days are linear and are not linear depending on which perspective one chooses to use at any given time in their understanding ... or even both...

The walking in two worlds !!!!!!

Christo 888,

my brain hurts... -that is a good thing. The above gets me thinkin
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777 - Absolutely stunning post. And I wanted to share something with you because Im seeing things (occasionally) from your perspective...

I recently started finally watching the tv show LOST, which I already knew in advance was going to be highly esoteric since it was created by J. J. Abrams. (I'm also very cautious of the potential spiritual distraction embedded in his work)
Anyway Im almost through season 2, and last night I was watching, and they found the 3rd hatch. As they hunched over the hatch and pried it open, I instantly thought of this...
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Revelations 6:1 the opening of the 7 seals Ie Chakras
"The hatches are symbolic of the seals. There are 7 hatches (seals) on the island!"
As soon as I had this thought, a huge lightning bolt went off outside my window (over the mountain)

sounds kind of silly now, but it was pretty intense last night. Anyway, thanks, don't think I could have carved the right neural net to have that moment without you.
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I recently started finally watching the tv show LOST, which I already knew in advance was going to be highly esoteric since it was created by J. J. Abrams. (I'm also very cautious of the potential spiritual distraction embedded in his work)
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Interesting that this conversation is taking a bend into dimensional conversations. That becomes a major JJ Abrams theme in Lost (I'm not giving too much away) as well as his new Star Trek movie. I watch Lost with the "knowledge goggles" on because he is giving away the secrets- hide your secrets in full view, and no one will guess what they are seeing.
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777: great work as usually. I'm trying to keep pace with you, but you've got a very deep understanding, any hints/links/books we can use to further our knowledge.
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